/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16220679]

Sure Palm Oil is unethical, but what's the alternative?

[Anonymous No.16220694]

What is that pic?

[Anonymous No.16220699]

>>16220679

ky jelly

[Anonymous No.16220702]

Palm Oil is a european thing I think, I've never seen that as an ingredient in our Canadian foods

[Anonymous No.16220703]

>>16220679
My greasy balls

[Anonymous No.16220705]

>>16220679
Olive.

[Anonymous No.16220710]

>>16220705
yeah we use olive oil here in canada
extra virgin etc

[Anonymous No.16220712]

>>16220679
L E B E N S R A U M

[Anonymous No.16220720]

>>16220702
>Palm Oil is a european thing I think
It’s tropical and common in asian shit
>>16220679
>unethical
You mean because it’s grown on plantations? Grow up all plants are grown in a monoculture on a chopped down forest covered with roundup and phosphate slurry, who gives a shit

[Anonymous No.16220728]

for the longest time, I thought palm oil came from the palms of orangutans because some fag told me that the palm oil industry is killing orangutans

[Anonymous No.16220729]

>>16220702
>>16220710
Out west the standard cheap oil is canola. The fields are quite a sight to see. The Philippines uses dirt cheap coconut oil, while we only get the expensive shit.
I never considered it until now, but I guess cooking oil is one of those things that is still heavily geographically influenced.

[Anonymous No.16220764]

animal fats

[Anonymous No.16220768]

>>16220694
Oil palm fruits

[Anonymous No.16220770]

>>16220729
>The fields are quite a sight to see
what are the fields for it? corn? i'd be curious to see some pics

and yes, canola is definitely a common one out here

[Anonymous No.16220801]

>>16220770
The pics do t do it justice, very beautiful yellow. I avoid canola oil when possible, very nasty industrial oil

[Anonymous No.16220807]

>>16220801
>very nasty industrial oil
femoid spotted

[Anonymous No.16220810]

>>16220770
I'm sorry, I was going to post a stock photo, just so you could get an idea, but they really just don't capture how bright canola fields are in the noon sun.
If you're out east you can probably see em, I've only seen em because there's plenty on the trans-canada and the QE2 through here.

[Anonymous No.16220811]

>>16220679
BUTTER

[Anonymous No.16220816]

>>16220811
This

[Anonymous No.16220845]

>>16220801
pretty to see, but they stink

[Anonymous No.16220854]

>>16220807
I’m trying, my insurance won’t cover the operation :(

[Anonymous No.16220859]

>>16220854
You know how it is: a lion is a beautiful thing to see, so long as the glass divider can take the thing head on.

[Anonymous No.16220860]

>>16220811
Butter, lard, and tallow all turned out to be way, way healthier fats than chemically processed (unstable) canola and vegetable oils.

If you have to use vegan oil, use Olive or Avocado. Chemically processed seed oils are by far the worst for health.

[Anonymous No.16220866]

>>16220720
It’s deforestation of rainforests in Asia (through burns)
Similar to how meat farms burn down the rain forests for land in South America

[Anonymous No.16220876]

>>16220859
Wisdom.

[Anonymous No.16220878]

>>16220860
>Chemically processed seed oils are by far the worst for health.

Pretty much all "vegetable" or "canola" oils sold at markets are chemically extracted via hexane, a classified carcinogen.

https://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-food/toxicity-of-processed-vegetable-oils-grapeseed-oil-could-contain-cancer-causing-chemicals-hexane.php

[Anonymous No.16220986]

Fruits dont have feelings op, you cant be unethical to them

[Anonymous No.16221019]

Murican vegan avocado fetish is way more destructive in terms of deforestation and environmental damage.

[Anonymous No.16221043]

>>16220801
Look at all that rape

[Anonymous No.16221062]

>>16220878
>seattleorganicrestaurants.com
Fucking lol.
The same article talks about how gmo oils will kill you, and non-organic oils will also kill you.
>omg x contains y carcinogen
Yeah? How much y? Because the air in a developed area contains carcinogens too, but I’m not buying a sealed oxygen suit.
>this oil is bad because if you burn it, it becomes bad for you
No fucking shit eating burned things is bad for you

>Pretty much all "vegetable" or "canola" oils sold at markets are chemically extracted via hexane
>ctrl+f ‘hexane’
It literally only refers to hexane being used for grapeseed oil. You’re as disingenuous as your bullshit article.
The rest is just crying about gmo’s and non-organic farming.

[Anonymous No.16221065]

>>16220702
palm oil is in fucking everything here anon read the god damn labels

[Anonymous No.16221074]

>>16220729
they use a palm canola mixture in a tonne of processed stuff
t. berta

[Anonymous No.16221340]

>>16221062
Shoo-shoo seed oil shill. Enjoy your drooling retard kids.

[Anonymous No.16221871]

>>16220728
lmao

[Anonymous No.16221889]

>>16221340
>be methodically and verifiably shown to be full of shit
>s-shill! >:(
If you just said “no, u” it would at least be minimally funny instead of sad.

[Anonymous No.16221926]

>>16220705
>>16220710
you can't really substitute palm oil with olive oil.
palm oil is rich in saturated fats, that's why it remains solid at room temperature, unlike most vegetable oils.
possible substitutes for palm oil are butter, coconut oil, cocoa butter or lard/tallow.

[Anonymous No.16222244]

>>16221889
If you actually want to know what happens when you replace natural fats with polyunsaturated vegetable oils look at the Sydney Diet Heart Study
tl;dr control group had 62% increased mortality

[Anonymous No.16222262]

>>16220679
Everything in the goddamn world is unethical

[Anonymous No.16222287]

>>16220679
Rapeseed. To behold the massive fields of rape in Canada is to embrace transcendence.

[Anonymous No.16222348]

>>16222244
edit meant experimental group im retarded

[Anonymous No.16222353]

>>16220679
Stirring your peanut butter like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.16222366]

>>16220679
palm oil isn't unethical, it's sourced by companies unethically. It's just a plant otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16222368]

>>16220679
its unethical to tell people to eat polyunsaturated vegetable oils we should return to natural fats like suet, tallow, lard, etc

[Anonymous No.16222401]

>>16220679
>unethical
who gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.16222407]

>>16220801
Where I live rapeseed is subsidized by the government to an absolutely ridiculous extent, so majority of fields have been covered by almost exclusively that for the past few years and the soil erosion is already kicking in. All because >muh biodiesel that fucks up both the environment and the engines that are running it. Honestly, fuck that plant, the oil isn't really good for cooking either.
The palm oil fuckup was also largely caused by government subsidies. Makes one realize that maybe running governments as giant wealth redistribution machines and planned economy attempts are bad for everyone in the end. I thought we closed this discussion last century.

[Anonymous No.16222445]

>>16220679
Literally any fucking other cooking oil.

[Anonymous No.16222755]

>>16220720
Thanks for enlightening me, anon. Thought for a sec OP might be about to hurl some truth bombs, but turns out he's just a whinging faggot per usual.
Gonna head out and see if I can buy a few liters of palm oil now.

[Anonymous No.16222767]

>>16220702
It's in pretty much everything in the Americas and Asia, and to a lesser extent Europe but still very prevalent

[Anonymous No.16222877]

>>16222244
You know they specifically gage them omega 6 oil heavy diet, which is terrible for you everyone can agree on. This doesn't prove anything for having a higher omega 3 ratio in the diet and studying those effects, which are the benefitial ratios people talk about.

[Anonymous No.16222902]

>>16222401
desu at the rate we use it, we'll have to turn to farming it anyway. If we stop harvesting it from wild forests, we could keep orangutans around for a little longer

[Anonymous No.16223128]

>>16222877
the study was for replacing saturated with polyunsaturated vegetable oils which are still in use today in most restaurants fast food establishments etc

[Anonymous No.16223241]

>>16223128
No, it was observing alpha linoleic acid 6 specifically. You stupid mong.

[Anonymous No.16223265]

>>16220728
LOL

[Anonymous No.16223271]

>>16220702
Palm oil is "the" cooking oil for many african countries

[Anonymous No.16223489]

>>16220679
rendered human fat

[Anonymous No.16223491]

>>16222407
corn subsidies in the US are also a huge contributor to the obesity epidemic. making shit food like chips and soda artificially low in price does not end well

[Anonymous No.16223511]

>>16220702
check your peanut butter

[Anonymous No.16223570]

>>16220679
>yurodumbs and amerifats wiped out all their native wildlife 2 centuries ago telling jungle niggers they can't cut down forests cause they want to visit sometimes to see some red monkeys

Lmao

[Anonymous No.16223758]

>>16223241
yes they subbed out saturated fats for a polyunsaturated fat and the people eating the polyunsaturated died more...

[Anonymous No.16224079]

>>16220770
Rape

[Anonymous No.16224428]

>>16224079
Yes, canola is another name for rapeseed.

[Anonymous No.16224457]

>>16220728
are you telling me it doesn't?

[Anonymous No.16224458]

>>16220770
>what are the fields for it?
Rape.

[Anonymous No.16224718]

>>16220679
Nothing.
Palm oil produces the most oil per square hectare of ANY vegetable oil
It's also used in nearly every organic product

[Anonymous No.16225499]

>>16220801
I agree, it's beautiful
Rape is quite healthy, but it does require a lot of industry to extract

[Anonymous No.16225863]

>>16220679
>what's the alternative?
how about not eating processed garbage like a responsible adult.

[Anonymous No.16225882]

>>16220679
amogus

[Anonymous No.16226516]

>>16222262

[Anonymous No.16226518]

>>16221074
Oh, huh, I had no idea
t. fellow berta boy, nice to see ya

[Anonymous No.16226530]

>>16225882

[Anonymous No.16226557]

>>16220878
Now I don’t know, I’m not familiar with this process, but generally in most chemical extractions in the industrial world, the chemicals used to extract compounds are then subsequently removed via various chemical processes. Just because hexane is used doesn’t mean hexane is present in the final product. It could be, like I said I don’t know specifically, but you would be shocked at how many toxic chemicals are used in everyday industrial chemistry, particularly in the world of food. It’s just that by the time the product gets to you, functionally none remains in it. Industrial chemical processing is wild.