/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15983610]

It's not a grilled cheese if it is anything other than bread, butter, and cheese.

Stop fucking calling your retarded melts "grilled cheese with turkey" or whatever, it makes you look like a fucking american.

[Anonymous No.15983612]

Anything can be grilled cheese if it has cheese and is grilled. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.15983613]

>>15983610
If you make a grilled cheese with swiss, you're supposed to add some sugar, or am i wrong?

[Anonymous No.15983614]

>>15983610
Being cunty about trivial things makes you look like a European.

[Anonymous No.15983620]

>>15983612
Is a steak with a parmesan crust a Grilled Cheese?

[Anonymous No.15983623]

rent free about my neighbours

[Anonymous No.15983625]

>>15983613
>If you make a grilled cheese with swiss

Why the fuck would you do that?

[Anonymous No.15983627]

No you retarded faggot. A grilled cheese with turkey is a perfectly acceptable terminology. It is in fact a grilled cheese in the classical sense with the addition of turkey. If you where to call it a turkey grilled cheese then that would be incorrect.

[Anonymous No.15983631]

>>15983625
cuz it's delicious???

[Anonymous No.15983688]

>>15983631
You're just wrong.

[Anonymous No.15983757]

>>15983610
I like a ground beef patty & grilled onion in my grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15983762]

>>15983757
That's called a patty melt, not a grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15983783]

>>15983627
No it's a turkey melt.

[Anonymous No.15983792]

>>15983757
I like to make grilled cheese using tortilla cut into triangles with the cheese melted on top with onions and guac and stuff

[Anonymous No.15983794]

>>15983792
Quesadilla

[Anonymous No.15983806]

>>15983610
I am an American and I will grill my cheese however I fucking please because freedom

[Anonymous No.15983809]

>>15983806
Have you ever made grilled cheese by pouring corn flakes into a bowl then pouring milk over it? It's a favorite of mine

[Anonymous No.15983979]

>>15983809
Bowl of cereal

[Anonymous No.15984027]

>>15983610
I'm gonna keep calling it a grilled cheese with whatever and you can't do shit about it. Nobody gives a fuck about
>b-but it's really a meeeeeelt
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15984035]

>>15983610
>it makes you look like a fucking american
>implying the people seething about grilled cheese terminology aren't exclusively american

[Anonymous No.15984045]

>>15983612
/thread

[Anonymous No.15984101]

>>15983610
Look at that really shit "cheese product" oozing out of there.
At least if this was European, it would have actual CHEESE in it.

[Anonymous No.15984105]

>>15983614
Coping this much, makes you look like an American....

[Anonymous No.15984117]

>>15983614
This man is correct. Unfortunately, /ck/ is 99% nit-picky cunt. Feelsbadman.

[Anonymous No.15985496]

Seems like the proper thing to do is abandon the term grilled cheese and simply refer to it as a cheese melt.

[Anonymous No.15985502]

>>15983610
Rent free

[Anonymous No.15985519]

I don't save soijack because I'm not a fagot, but if there ever was a thread that deserved a passive aggressive green text of one's post it would be this one.

[Anonymous No.15985620]

>butter
I just use mayo on the outsides
Browns better that way

[Anonymous No.15985641]

>>15983610
why are you calling a cheese toastie a grilled cheese you fucking yank

[Anonymous No.15985657]

Is it still a grilled cheese if I just add a couple strips of bacon?

[Anonymous No.15985684]

I LOVE grilled cheese prepared while kneeling on a black “man’s” neck while he resists arrest. Adds that extra umph

[Anonymous No.15985696]

>>15985684
HAHAHA ‘im racist look at me’

Idiot.

[Anonymous No.15985714]

>>15985696
White guilt doesn’t taste good

[Anonymous No.15985735]

>>15983620
is a retarded retard a retard

[Anonymous No.15986263]

>>15983610
I call it whatever the fuck I want to call it ok? Youre stepping out of line talking this way to me. I dont like it and if you keep doing it im going to do something you wont like. Final warning.

[Anonymous No.15986916]

>>15985496

A melt is a grilled cheese with other ingredients.

If you have a melt that's just bread, butter, and cheese, it's actually a grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15986923]

>>15985657

No, it's a Bacon Melt.

[Anonymous No.15986953]

>Not a grilled cheese guys
>Literally calls it a grilled cheese in the jpg

[Anonymous No.15986961]

>>15986953
Because that's what it is, retard

[Anonymous No.15988242]

>>15983757
Sounds interesting. Might give it a try.
I make my grilled cheese by browning some lightly sweetened batter on a skillet then covering it in butter and maple syrup.

[Anonymous No.15988550]

>>15983610
Grilled cheese is an american thing you faggot, I don't know about you fairy islanders but mainland europeans only know about grilled cheese from americans. It was not a thing before they made it up. Maybe the Bri'ish want to steal yet another american invention and brand it as theirs? Stay irrelevant my faggot.

[Anonymous No.15989072]

>>15988550
>Grilled cheese is an american thing

[Anonymous No.15989167]

>>15983610
Mustard and other condiments are fine too

[Anonymous No.15989189]

>>15989167
>fine
Maybe for naming purposes, but in terms of taste? Naw, that's fucked up

[Anonymous No.15989193]

I dip my grilled cheese in catsup

[Anonymous No.15989208]

>>15989193
Then it's not a grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15989284]

>>15984101
That's not American cheese. Looks more like a colby or cheddar.

[Anonymous No.15989298]

>>15989284
It's a patty melt without the patty and onions

[Anonymous No.15989310]

A patty melt is a grilled cheese with a patty and grilled onions sometimes a sauce. A grilled cheese is a patty melt without the patty, grilled onions, and sauce.

[Anonymous No.15989317]

>>15989310

Jesus, you Americans are so nitypicky

[Anonymous No.15989323]

>>15989317
>literally a thread full of europoors bitching and moaning over american food

[Anonymous No.15989325]

>Calls cheese toasty a """"grilled cheese""""
Americans are really fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.15989326]

>>15989323

No American would ever called a Grilled Cheese a "Patty Melt without patty".

[Anonymous No.15989333]

>>15989325
Toasties encompass what Americans call both Grilled Cheese and Melts. A Cheese Toasty is an American Grilled Cheese, while every other Toasty is an American Melt.

[Anonymous No.15989338]

>>15989326
Because it's simpler to call it a grilled cheese. Which means you want a patty melt without the patty and onions. Grilled cheese was literally invented after the patty melt for children that found a burger and onions icky but wanted to eat what their parents were eating.

[Anonymous No.15989343]

>>15989338
Grilled Cheeses date back to the fucking Romans, retard.

[Anonymous No.15989348]

>>15989343
Lol no, they didn't even have sliced bread until the great depression

[Anonymous No.15989349]

>>15989338

Grilled Cheeses date to the Great Depression (1930s) while Patty Melts are distinctly an invention of the late 1940s.

It is more correct to say a Patty Melt was invented when someone wanted a more substantial grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.15989350]

>>15989348
>No one figured out how to cut bread before

RETARD ALERT

[Anonymous No.15989351]

>>15983688
He's right. I like a grilled cheese with 2 parts cheddar to 1 part swisss. Very good.

[Anonymous No.15989352]

>>15989349
This, that's why a patty melt is a grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15989354]

>>15989352

Correct, all patty melts are grilled cheeses, but not all grilled cheeses are patty metls.

[Anonymous No.15989362]

>>15989338
Grilled cheeses are (properly) made with American cheese, while patty melts should always have Swiss cheese.

[Anonymous No.15989384]

>>15989349
You have it backwards, the patty melt was invented in 1930 a year after sliced bread, grilled cheese was invented by the US Navy in WW2 for rationing purposes.

[Anonymous No.15989387]

>>15989384

Nope, meat was too much a luxury during the war for it be used for fucking patty melts during the 30's, meanwhile "Cheesies" were all the rage because of how cheap cheese was.

Patty Melts were invented in the post-war diners of the 1940's, not before.

[Anonymous No.15989391]

>>15989387
It was invented by some lady in California in 1930. The US Navy made grilled cheese and encouraged to population to make them instead of patty melts. They also invented shit on a shingle.

[Anonymous No.15989392]

>>15989391
Lmao, alright buddy, keep making shit up, doesn't make you right.

[Anonymous No.15989395]

>>15989391
>The US Navy made grilled cheese

Completely incorrect

https://www.foodtimeline.org/foodsandwiches.html

[Anonymous No.15989399]

>>15989392
Invented by Tiny Naylor in 1930, but it probably didn't become a popular diner item until postwar because everyone was too poor to eat out. Either way the both happened the same year as sliced bread.

[Anonymous No.15989403]

>>15989395
What is this some 1990's geocities blog? You are desperate.

[Anonymous No.15989405]

>>15989399

Tiny Naylor didn't start serving Patty Melts until the fucking FIFTIES, you absolute baff.

>"The stack of griddled beef patties, Swiss cheese, caramelized onions and slices of rye is said to have got its start in Los Angeles in the 1950s, the invention of restaurateur Tiny Naylor."
>https://www.foodandwine.com/chefs/patty-melt-trend-vegetable-substitution

[Anonymous No.15989410]

>>15989403
Needs some doom 2 flaming skulls and spinning pentagrams.

[Anonymous No.15989411]

>>15989403
>Culinary evidence suggests our modern grilled cheese (consisting of processed cheese and sliced white bread) began in the 1920s.

[Anonymous No.15989422]

>Sliced bread is a loaf of bread that has been sliced with a machine and packaged for convenience. It was first sold in 1928, advertised as "the greatest forward step in the baking industry since bread was wrapped". This led to the popular idiom "greatest thing since sliced bread".

>Several culinary writers suggested that Los Angeles restaurateur Tiny Naylor may have invented the patty melt in 1930 and helped popularize the sandwhich in restaurants in the 1950's

[Anonymous No.15989429]

>>15989422

I'd love to see any source claiming Naylor invented it in the fucking 30's when his ability to get any beef at all was severely hampered.

[Anonymous No.15989452]

>>15989429
Ellis-Christensen, Tricia. "What is a Patty Melt?". Wisegeek. Retrieved June 17, 2014.
Lurie, Joshua (February 22, 2017). "11 Awesome Patty Melts For Your Next Comfort Food Fix: It's good to switch things up once in a while". Eater LA.
Duane, Daniel (February 4, 2016). "Better Than a Burger: In Praise of the Patty Melt". Men's Journal.
Gonzalez, Sef (January 2, 2015). "A Little Patty Melt History". Burger Beast.
Inamine, Elyse (June 15, 2017). "The Patty Melt Is Getting Its Moment". Food & Wine.
Sifton, Sam (September 1, 2016). "The Crispy Decadence of the Patty Melt". The New York Times.

[Anonymous No.15989459]

>>15989452
Lurie, Inamine, and Sifton are all in the 1940's camp, which means you've never actually looked at this list.

Ellis and Duane never actually give a date of invention in their works.

Gonzalez is just a straight up retard who never sources his claim.

[Anonymous No.15989471]

>>15983610
Patty melts are grilled cheese upgraded and it makes poorfags seethe. (See europeans)

[Anonymous No.15989490]

>>15989459
>he looked up and read all of those sources in under a minute and still had time to type out a reply.
Fucking based.

[Anonymous No.15989493]

>>15989490

I didn't have to look them up, I've read them. This is a discussion I've had many times before.

For real tho, FUCK Gonzales, dumb fuck has ruined more culinary history than most.

[Anonymous No.15989504]

>>15989493
I see you are a patty melt connoisseur

[Anonymous No.15989507]

>>15989504
I prefer to call it a Grilled Cheese with Patty

[Anonymous No.15989516]

>>15989507
Based.

[Anonymous No.15989521]

>>15983612
But "grilled cheese sandwiches" are fried.

[Anonymous No.15989527]

>>15989521
Restaurant flat tops are called grills.

[Anonymous No.15989870]

>>15983610
That's a tasty looking patty melt hold the burger and carmelized onions

[Anonymous No.15990003]

>>15983610
>Stop fucking calling your retarded melts "grilled cheese with turkey" or whatever, it makes you look like a fucking american.
baste

[Anonymous No.15990257]

>>15983610
That's called a butter melt you retard.

[Anonymous No.15990460]

I'll take a grilled cheese with tuna, tomato, bacon, onion, garlic and parsley please.

[Anonymous No.15990526]

A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire sub consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of blasphemy. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this sub this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now.

You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.

[Anonymous No.15991456]

>>15983794
Sincronizada you fucktard

[Anonymous No.15991466]

>>15985620
I will end you and all that you hold dear

[Anonymous No.15991476]

Fun fact: in northeastern Spain a grilled cheese with ham is called a "bikini" and is a staple snack

[Anonymous No.15991483]

>grilled
>butter and frying pan
It's a fried cheese sandwich.

[Anonymous No.15991493]

>>15989527
No they're not. They're called "griddles". It's a griddle-cheese sandwhich.

[Anonymous No.15991542]

>local man gets outrageously upset over trivial things
When people make a grilled cheese, they're looking for the nostalgic comfort only a child's meal can bring, not the actual bread and cheese. It's the same reason people get so upset about the way you make mac and cheese or dipping sauce for tendies. Because it's comfort food obviously made for a child but kept around because sometimes people need to indulge their inner innocence.
Is it okay to eat tendies? Yes. Is it reasonable to eat tendies all the time or to get outraged and infuriated when they're not the exact same kind of tendies as you wanted? No. Come on.
Let those burger places put bacon and apple and avocado on their grilled cheese. It's a comfort food. Let your autism be reserved for things like sauces where you have to actually distinguish between different kinds of red sauce and white sauce, or kinds of oil suitable for different kinds of cooking. You can't put olive oil on high and expect it not to burn. It's just not reasonable.

[Anonymous No.15992212]

>>15984101
Do you retarded Europeans actually think that we can't also get fine cheeses in the US?

[Anonymous No.15992254]

ok but i am an american, OP

I use mayo, bacon, and sliced tomato.

[Anonymous No.15992263]

>>15992212
>>15984101
Yes, we don't have real cheese in America!

[Anonymous No.15992274]

>>15983610
What about a mayo/butter combo on the outside?

[Anonymous No.15992326]

>>15992274
yeah thats exactly what i do. i use the mayo/butter on the outside facing the pan

[Anonymous No.15992751]

>>15985620
does this count as a mayonnaise melt?

[Anonymous No.15992764]

>>15986916
>A melt is a grilled cheese

hmm, you sure?

[Anonymous No.15992777]

>>15989167
that is referred to as a condim melt for short.

[Anonymous No.15992803]

>>15983610
grilled cheese sandwich is inherently american.

[Anonymous No.15992877]

>>15991476
Why do they call it that?

[Anonymous No.15992883]

>>15989521
not if you do it alton brown style and cook it on an actual grill

[Anonymous No.15992930]

what about kimchi?

[Anonymous No.15993019]

>>15983610
mUH MELTS

[Anonymous No.15993050]

>>15983610
To be honest grilled cheese is quite an american concept. I've never really heard people called a grilled cheese a grilled cheese. A cheese toasty is probably what i'd say. Turkey cheese sounds good though.

Ultimately your all your grilled sandwiches is just a toasty your linguistic games are a product of your Americanisms

>>15988550
This

[Anonymous No.15993107]

>>15993050
>A cheese toasty is probably what i'd say
We don't have this endemically Yankee problem, anon. We make a toastie with ham and cheese, it's just a ham and cheese toastie. Nobody is telling us it's actually a ham melt. It's a toastie. Pity the Yankee, for his arbitrary nit-picking knows no bounds.

[Anonymous No.15993133]

>>15983612
fpbp
fuck mutts

[Anonymous No.15993148]

15983610
rent free

You're right though, it's just a toasted sandwich at that point. And for that matter a BLT isn't a BLT anymore if you put turkey or squirt retch dressing on it

[Anonymous No.15994185]

>>15991466
>>15992751
It's really yummy though

[Anonymous No.15994210]

>>15983610
>Stop fucking calling your retarded melts "grilled cheese with turkey" or whatever

[Anonymous No.15994233]

>>15994210
There's no such thing as a "Grilled Cheese with _____" because by definition a Grilled Cheese can't be with anything else in it.

Add anything else and it's a melt.

[Anonymous No.15994378]

>>15983610
>It's not a grilled cheese if it is anything other than bread, butter, and cheese. Stop fucking calling your retarded melts "grilled cheese with turkey" or whatever, it makes you look like a fucking american.

[Anonymous No.15994402]

man i hate the allure of a good grilled cheese. you make one and eat it and its so good and perfect, maybe a little bland but in a good way and you instantly think “man that was a really good grilled cheese, im not entirely full yet, maybe i’ll have another...” dont do it. don’t even think about it. it’s the opposite of oreos. you make your second grilled cheese and 3 bites into it you’re so overwhelmed by the monotony. “this isnt nearly as good as the last one” despite being practically identical. The grilled cheese is a sacred food, it must be eaten hot, and quick. A second one only allows you to stew in the memories of the past (your previous cheese) and your nostalgia clouds your mind, creating an epic fail bite in your newest creation of dairy and grain. Show some restraint.

[Anonymous No.15994411]

>>15983610
imagine being this abused u start thinking this isnt dog food lmao

[Anonymous No.15994929]

>>15983610
>Literally just empty calories

Is this why Americans are so fat?

[Anonymous No.15995257]

>>15983610
Bold words for a place that calls chicken sandwiches chicken burgers

[Anonymous No.15995447]

>>15994378
I don't get why you would add the soylent tag and glasses to the image when the fat fuck was already the spitting image of a s0iboy

[Anonymous No.15995514]

>>15994233
Everyone knows, and nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.15995604]

its a melt, folks

[Anonymous No.15995607]

>>15995604
I wanna fuck that lazy hamster

[Anonymous No.15995613]

>>15995607
a melt

[Anonymous No.15995614]

>>15995613

I'd stick my dick so far into that lazy hamster that the only way to get me out would be to MELT my cock with a welding torch.