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15854665 No.15854665 [Reply] [Original]

>You don't want pre-shredded cheese, it won't melt the same (no wtf?)

>we want a unique experience, otherwise we may as well go to taco bell

>your tortilla can be store bought, it is not important to make it yourself

Fraud

>> No.15854674

>>15854665
He's another self proclaimed youtube food expert.

>> No.15854719

>>15854665
Are those supposed to be false or something?

>> No.15854724

Doesnt preshredded cheese have additives you wouldn't get if you just shred it yourself?

>> No.15854729

>>15854665
He's a typical nonwhite. Counterproductive, lazy and stupid.

>> No.15855245

>>15854719
Shredded cheese will melt better in part because of the additives like >>15854724
mentions

And a homemade tortilla is going to be much better for a quesadilla than shredding your own cheese

>> No.15855282

>>15855245
Ah yes, POTATO STARCH! REALLY KNOWN FOR ITS MELTING CAPACITIES, HUH

>> No.15855283

>>15855245
>Shredded cheese will melt better
Pre-shredded cheese is coated with cellulose that stops it from sticking to itself. While it won't stop your cheese from melting, it can alter the texture.

>> No.15855294

>>15855245
Are you actually retarded? Pre-shredded cheese obviously melts way worse.

>> No.15855297

>>15855282
>>15855283
>>15855294
Preshredded typically have sodium acetate which literally scientifically melts better

>> No.15855299

>>15855283
Pre-shredded cheese melts differently because they start drying and losing moisture exponentially faster than cheese that has been grated close to a wheel's juicy center

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>>15855245
>Shredded cheese will melt better in part because of the additives
Incorrect. The additives do the opposite. They are starches meant to keep the shreds from clumping together. It also keeps them from melting homogenously like normal cheese.

Also, I buy these, which are just as good, if not better than anything I can make.

>> No.15855303

>>15855282
I see cellulose listed more often than potato starch. Saw dust melts real good.

>> No.15855306

>>15855297
Have you ever melted pre-shredded vs fresh shredded? What were the results?

>> No.15855312

>>15855297
Uh, what? I've literally never seen that.

>> No.15855320

>>15854665
You are all frauds to us cheesemakers

>> No.15855323

>>15855303
Apparently outside of America they usually use some kind of starch. But here in America we get to eat good ole paper.

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>>15855297
He's right, the scientists have this all figured out.

>> No.15855331

>>15855300
This. Also, sodium crusts the pre-shredded cheese out, making it harder to melt.

HOWEVER

Processed/preshredded cheese can be used to your advantage. For instance, it's more expensive, but preshredded mozzarella makes for a crispier, faster burning cheese on pizza, for those who are into browned cheese

>> No.15855335
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15855335

>>15855297
Are you just making stuff up now?
This is the ingredients on a bag of Kraft Shredded Sharp Cheddar Cheese.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kraft-Sharp-Cheddar-Shredded-Cheese-16-oz-Bag/43981979

>> No.15855336

>>15855245
>And a homemade tortilla is going to be much better for a quesadilla than shredding your own cheese
Not necessarily. Maybe if you get fuckin' Mission brand tortillas at Walmart, but if you go to the local Mexican store you can get a good tortilla. At that point the cheese would be a bigger factor.

>> No.15855340

>>15855306
No difference

>> No.15855346

>>15855340
Okay you're just straight up lying now. Carry on!

>> No.15855348

>>15855336
You suck at cooking, it's okay.

>> No.15855350

>>15855326
The word "cheese" is nowhere on the package. Did I just solve your riddle, or did you just learn that Velveeta has its uses?

>> No.15855355

>>15855340
Why were you forced to compare? Elaborate, you larping faggot

>> No.15855362

>>15855346
>get an answer you dont like

>NO ITS NOT POSSIBLE :((((

Take your fat tranny ass back to the cuckshed

>> No.15855369

>>15855340
I thought you said shredded melts better.

>> No.15855371

>>15855355
What do you mean forced to compare you retarded weirdo? I've had both, it makes zero difference. You're a fat faggot

>> No.15855377

>>15855320
Any baba with bad milk can make cheese.

We're determining the merits of convenience vs tradition, kindly fuck off

>> No.15855380

>>15855369
I said scientifically. I don't detect nor care to see a difference

>> No.15855381

>>15855371
You said here >>15855245 that shredded cheese melts better. Are you walking that back?

>> No.15855386

>>15855348
I can make a tortilla just fine (not like it's hard) but if you think you can't also get a good one at a Mexican grocery store, you've just never been to one I guess.
>>15855362
Shut the fuck up chud.

>> No.15855391

>>15855381
>>15855380
You can stop sperging out over cheese you fat tranny

>> No.15855400

>>15855371
If you've tried both, in the same circumstance, in exactly the same way, you would have seen a difference. And by forced, I mean you needed to cook for your family or something and had to comparison shop. Go back to school, please.

>> No.15855402

>>15855386
I can get a good croissant at Shoprite, why the fuck wouldn't I make my own if I'm not terrible? It's 50x time better and not hard, a tortilla is even easier and way more important for texture and subtle flavor than the cheese

>> No.15855409

>>15855381
I was the first post. The second wasnt me. Go to sleep.

>> No.15855411

>>15855400
I see no significant difference you miserable autist. Go to a bar, you might actually learn that normal people aren't complete fucking losers over the semantics of shredded cheese

>> No.15855422

>>15855411
Cook outside of your microwave, you might get married and learn the joys of making nice food for your family gatherings

>> No.15855436

>>15855386
Also Guga bought some generic tortilla from walmart, of course that garbage is noticeably inferior in EVERY regard

>> No.15855443

>WAAAAAH IT SOUNDS LIKE SAWDUST EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT ISN'T I WISH IT HAD SOME CHEMICAL BULLSHIT IN THERE INSTEAD!

Unless they're using it as filler like walmart parmesan does, there is literally nothing wrong with cellulose.

>> No.15855445

>>15855422
I do. Which is why I don't shuck over to Walmart for tortillas then sperg out at an actual human being about shredded cheese you retarded fucking axe wounded abomination

>> No.15855497

>>15855402
It's about effort vs reward. I'd rather buy a good tortilla and save myself a little bit of effort if it's gonna be just as good (or at least 90% as good) as one I make myself.

There's not much effort in shredding your own cheese, and the reward is immense compared to sawdust-coated cheese. Unless you're that retard who's pretending there is no difference.

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>>15855245
oh wow all this time I should have known preshredded cheese is better than shredding a block myself - shut the fuck
up fatass

>> No.15855521

>>15855509
Not what I said you fat retard. You're not a woman.

>> No.15855527

>>15855436
Well, that's unforgivable I guess.

>> No.15855532

>>15855497
You suck at cooking. It's that simple. A tortilla is piss easy to make and way more rewarding than shredded cheese. There's no significant difference in how it melts. Idk maybe im just not a retard that cant cook a tortilla?

>> No.15855535

>>15855445
This is a cooking forum. Why are you here if not to discuss food?

>> No.15855540

>>15855532
>There's no significant difference in how it melts.
There just simply is, though. If you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you. We're at an impasse.

>> No.15855544

>>15855535
Did you know you can discuss food while behaving over the age of a 5 year old autist? No? That's why you only cook at family gatherings and dont sit at the table with anyone

>> No.15855547

>>15855540
Oh word??

>> No.15855551

>>15855326
>now melts
What... what did it do before?

>> No.15855554

>>15855551
turned to crystal

>> No.15855562

>>15854724
>>15855245
>>15855297
>>15855299
Shredded cheese does not contain "sodium acetate" perhaps you're confusing it with sodium citrate, and sodium citrate is used to make a cheese melt into a sauce or cheese dip.
The additives such as starch and cellulose (wood dust) dries out the cheese and makes it worse at melting. A simple experiment or experience with this would prove it. The amount of fat also affects it.

>> No.15855581

>>15855544
Did you know cheese behaves differently depending in how its processed? No you don't, so I really don't feel bad that you're offended on a website founded on topical banter.

>> No.15855587

>>15855581
I do. You're the only one continuing to lactate about it you fucking loser

>> No.15855590

>>15855587
And yet here you are! We should get married, faggot

>> No.15855600

>>15855590
I'm in the priesthood

>> No.15855986

>>15854665
The best argument for this is the flour blend in the fridge freezer for a while ago lol

>> No.15856108

>>15854665
>cheese
The vast majority of shredded cheese has a power that keeps it from clumping. No, this isn't the same as sodium citrate.
>we want a unique experience, otherwise we may as well go to taco bell
??? yes. If you go to a restaurant you want something memorable, good tasting, and nutritious.
>your tortilla can be store bought, it is not important to make it yourself
it isn't really. the tortilla is not usually the star, it's a bonus. you can also buy raw tortillas at regular supermarkets these days which are on par with home-made. also, if you go to some mexican groceries they have a tortilleria and you can get fresh tortillas that way.
t. mexican

>> No.15856118

>>15855562
it's amazing this board shits on adam ragusea for being a fake kenji with more contrarianism yet knows less than he does despite ragusea being a fucking midwit

>> No.15856157

>>15854665
Corn tortillas can be store bought, you should always make homemade flour tortillas though.

>> No.15856163

>>15856118
Kenji is based minus his soy political opinions.

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>>15854665
He cooks yummy food, does fu experiments and his nephew and her gf are pretty hot.

>> No.15856531

>>15856118
We all agree that /ck/ is absolutely awful as a cooking reference.
Doesn't make Ragusea any better, sorry Adam

>> No.15856757

>>15855386
Chud isnt a word.
Fucking zoomies and their niggery babbling

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15857042

It's a moot point to most amerimutts, they don't know anything about good cheese and will just put cheez whiz or fucking velveeta on everything anyway

>> No.15857060

>>15857042
>hate america
>literally can't go 5 seconds without thinking about america
>gets angry about some shit you made up about americans not knowing what "real" cheese is

You would enjoy life a lot more if you just learned to let it go, Eurofren

>> No.15857063

>>15854665
>eats dry aged steak
>orgasms

>> No.15857139

>>15857042
I have more cheese selection in Wegmans than you have in your whole country

>> No.15857160

>>15857139
If that's the case why is cheese "product" consistently more popular in your country than anything approaching actual cheese?

>> No.15857176

>>15854665
i can tell purely by physiognomy that this man is incapable of giving good, truthful advice

>> No.15857213

>>15855297
Hi, Adam, and go fuck yourself.

>> No.15857215

>>15857160
because it tastes good. go away and eat your shitty maggot cheese, stupid yuropoor

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15857239

>>15857042
Ah yes, the good ol american states of america

>> No.15857495

>>15857239
central trankland chads represent

>> No.15857502

Ban all pre-shredded cheese!
Make America Grate Again!

>> No.15857507

>>15857239
>Has gerrymandering gone too far? And here's why that's a good thing!

>> No.15857894

>>15855245
ok gustavo

>> No.15858713

>>15857495
fuck central trankland trannies
>t. Fastirite

>> No.15858727

>>15854665
I read all that green text in his voice for some reason, now I'm just annoyed.

>> No.15859443

>>15856118
yeah so the fucking bathroom wall of the internet is dumber than a dumb youtube chef. poop on poop is just more poop

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