/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15842598]

So what was the average European side dish before they discovered potatoes? Turnips and carrots?

[Anonymous No.15842605]

Leeks

[Anonymous No.15842628]

>>15842598
Grains and dairy, mostly. Oats, barley, wheat etc. Accompanied by whatever vegetables were in season. Meat wasn't eaten often, as it was considered a luxury good.

People who lived along the coast and rivers had it better as fish was plentiful.

[Anonymous No.15842640]

Side dish? they only ate stews, porrdige and salads.

[Anonymous No.15842661]

you could do a lot worse than turnips and carrots

[Anonymous No.15842678]

>>15842605
Sauteed or what?

[Anonymous No.15842700]

>>15842598
Wheat in various forms. Cabbage. Durian

[Anonymous No.15842759]

>>15842598
Some kind of gruel or bread as a main filling.
Depending on the season either vegetable soup or cheese, dry meat preserves, stews.
>>15842628
Meat was available but it definitely wasn't an everyday meal for 90% of the population. And the nicer cuts (that we're used to eating nowadays) mostly went to nobility or rich commons.
That's why hacked or transformed meat is so prevalent, either in the form of pastries etc.

[Anonymous No.15842824]

>>15842598
Then forgot syphilis going from America to Europe

[Anonymous No.15842861]

>>15842824
they found a syphilitic skull in Greece from 1350 or so a couple years back

[Anonymous No.15842871]

>>15842598
I'm rather sure we had beans before the discoveries of America. At least fava beans

[Anonymous No.15843081]

>>15842871
Fava beans and chick peas, and that's all. No normal beans.

[Anonymous No.15843104]

had no idea sugar cane came from yurop desu sempai

[Anonymous No.15843167]

>>15843104
they probably meant old world new world

[Anonymous No.15843624]

>>15842759
this, most recipes we have on medieval food come from people that cooked for kings and nobility, wine was not so available to the peasants, they drank Ale instead.
Curious random fact: due to its "luxurious" diet, the rich suffered with gout, which got the nickname "the disease of the wealthy"

[Anonymous No.15843805]

>>15842598
horse balls in gravy

[Anonymous No.15843820]

>>15842598
horse meat and pork

[Anonymous No.15843935]

>>15842598
Cum. Explains a lot about the modern Euro-psyche.

[Anonymous No.15844344]

>Cum. Explains a lot about the modern Euro-psyche.

[Anonymous No.15844821]

>>15842598
Never realized how much food came from America. I wish there was more new breeds of foods.

[Anonymous No.15844852]

>>15842861
Yes, mild forms of syphilis have been known since ancient times in the old world, but the severe form came from the new world.

[Anonymous No.15844875]

>>15844821
There are shitloads of fruits and berries and spices and herbs out there that you will never try because it's not economically feasible to try and introduce them to the civilised West. They're known and eaten locally only.

[Anonymous No.15844903]

>>15844875
Yeah, I can think of some around here like poke, pawpaws, and spice brush.

[Anonymous No.15844988]

>>15842598
berry and lamb

[Anonymous No.15844994]

>>15844875
My Argentinian friend told me exactly this. They are next level when it comes to fruit and vegetables, shit you can't even conceive of.

[Anonymous No.15845001]

>>15842598
Who gives a shit their fucking eurotrash.

[Anonymous No.15845002]

>>15842598
how does disease evolve into grapes, turnips, then livestock?

[Anonymous No.15845013]

>>15845002
It's eurotrash merkel bullshit that makes no sense

[Anonymous No.15845025]

>>15845002
That's more devolve than evolve

[Anonymous No.15845053]

>>15845013
I want to motorboat merkel's merkels

[Anonymous No.15845056]

We are the Magnificent Seven. Charlie don't surf!

[Anonymous No.15845059]

>>15845053
Shit happens

[Anonymous No.15845295]

>>15844875
this. the middle east has so many goddamn spices i'll probably never see in my life.

[Anonymous No.15845349]

>>15845295
Not really. Their spices don't differ much from what you can find in supermarkets.
The spices my mother always uses in Lebanese dishes are : white pepper, nutmeg, cumin, Paprika, Aleppo pepper, black pepper salt.
Of course some things are a bit more specific like sumac or tahine but they shouldn't be that hard to get or replace.
Maybe burgul (ground durum) you can't find everywhere.

[Anonymous No.15845372]

>>15845349
ash berries?
grains of paraise?
orris root?
monk's pepper?
galangal?
etc.

[Anonymous No.15845426]

Chestnuts
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestnut#History

[Anonymous No.15845477]

>>15842598
Medlar

[Anonymous No.15845515]

>>15844875
how does this comment make any sense in response to >>15844821

[Anonymous No.15845786]

>>15844344
SEETHE

[Anonymous No.15846092]

>>15845349

[Anonymous No.15846289]

>>15842598
i like how they collapse all the different animals into just "livestock" so it looks like less of a contribution

[Anonymous No.15846305]

>>15842628
meat the way we eat it was uncommon because you got way more protein in the long run eating the eggs and milking the cow. but as soon as either stopped you ate the animal too. so stewing hens and boiled beef were relatively common, plus hogs yielded a lot of meat at the end of the season that could be stored and eaten gradually

[Anonymous No.15846315]

>>15842598
yogurt
butter
mushrooms
barley

[Anonymous No.15846511]

>>15842598
https://youtube.com/c/TastingHistory
I think he could know. But most records are from rich people or special occasions food

[Anonymous No.15847317]

Turnips, parsnips, carrots, leeks, beets, bread and ale.

[Anonymous No.15847943]

>>15842598
>north america gave them all fud
>they saved yurup in wwii
>the actual state of american edkkktion

[Anonymous No.15848477]

>>15847943
Nowhere on the pic does it say that's "all food". The only gripe about this image is the fact that it implies we just gave them a bunch of diseases on purpose before germ theory existed and they didn't give us any.

[Anonymous No.15848484]

>>15848477
>it implies we just gave them a bunch of diseases on purpose
But we did, retard.

[Anonymous No.15848639]

>>15843104
It originally comes from South Asia I believe

[Anonymous No.15849955]

>>15848484
It wasnt on purpose, retard

[Anonymous No.15849992]

>>15848484
Europeans had no idea that these relatively mild diseases to them would be so devastating to the Indians, nor did they have the scientific knowledge to understand why the Indians were so susceptible to them. They assumed that when the Indians started dying off in large numbers from disease it's because God was clearing out the land so they could take over it.

[Anonymous No.15850004]

>>15842598
HOL UP

You telling me Bananas originally came from Europe?

[Anonymous No.15850095]

>>15850004
Asia

[Anonymous No.15850291]

>>15842640
they basically never ate salad

[Anonymous No.15851225]

>>15845786
Excuse me sir have you kneeled for a nigger today?

[Anonymous No.15851237]

>>15842598
Why doesn't the graphic mention the Americas were the source of syphilis?

[Anonymous No.15851456]

>>15844875
>fruits
>berries
>spices
>herbs

and why would I want them?

[Anonymous No.15851470]

bread

[Anonymous No.15851474]

so disease only existed in europe?

[Anonymous No.15851879]

>>15849992
All of them thought that?

[Anonymous No.15853236]

>>15851237
because white people bad

[Anonymous No.15853661]

>>15842598
Warfare.
We could just run away like today's shitskins, we had no wealthy safe haven to ilegally immigrate to. Struggle made us superior.

[Anonymous No.15853693]

>>15842598
Porridge with random stuff mixed in (if available)

[Anonymous No.15853721]

>>15851879
Did any of them have knowledge to the contrary or an understanding, to even the slightest degree, of disease?

[Anonymous No.15853903]

>>15842759
>Meat was available but it definitely wasn't an everyday meal for 90% of the population
>>15842628
>Meat wasn't eaten often, as it was considered a luxury good.

European peasants ate a lot more fish than chicken, beef, or pork.

[Anonymous No.15853937]

Will retards ever realize that "lol only the rich ate meat" shit is just a retarded meme that if it even had an ounce of truth in it, people would just die by the millions since you can't survive on a vegan diet without supplements?

Do you retards realize that eating good fucking cheese, sausages, cold cuts, pate and the like was common daily for the fucking peasants?

[Anonymous No.15855525]

>>15849955
lmao we sure as shit did

[Anonymous No.15855633]

>>15842628
Meat was less common then it is now but more common than nu-historisn soymales like to pretend it was. Most people worked in agriculture meaning they owned chickens and pigs and would happily eat them when given the opportunity.