/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15740594]

Why are Japanese whiskeys so expensive?
They're nothing special. Scotch can be so much better.

[Anonymous No.15740597]

>>15740594
Because you’re a faggot
>why are things imported more expensive than shit made here
Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.15740601]

>>15740597

>Scotland is next door to the USA

[Anonymous No.15740607]

Unironically because gaijin will pay for small batch or overwrought whiskey.

If you want cheap Japanese whiskey there's always Suntory.

[Anonymous No.15740615]

>>15740601
You’re an idiot with no understanding of economics

[Anonymous No.15740621]

>>15740594
Plenty of them are pretty good and they used to be cheaper. They got popular because of this and people eventually got the idea that Japanese whiskey is really good instead of just being good for the price, and they keep buying it despite the price increases.

[Anonymous No.15740625]

expensive country
low volume
baka gaijin

[Anonymous No.15740629]

>>15740625
But dude Scotland makes a ton of whiskey and has competition. Why isn’t nip whiskey the same price. Please explain the world to me

[Anonymous No.15740663]

Import fees.

I buy $10 bottles of Nikka Black Special and Suntory White. It's US whiskey that's overpriced here in Japan.

[Anonymous No.15740703]

>>15740594
Because they're very popular right now just like bourbon. That's all there is to it.
Ignore the retard trying to school people with Econ 101

[Anonymous No.15740743]

>>15740594
Because of jap marketing. The myth of nip quality is real.
Now buy my fucking 400 dollar raw fish on rice, gweilo.

[Anonymous No.15740786]

>why is a smaller quantity of a specialty import item more expensive than the default standard?
Beer that’s actually from Japan is more expensive than European imports as well.

[Anonymous No.15740791]

>>15740594
Just another hipster fad.
It’ll pass.

[Anonymous No.15740794]

they know weeb losers will buy it because le wacky japanese product!! xD kawaiiii uWu =v= DESUDESU

[Anonymous No.15740818]

>>15740786
But I wanna drink it while I watch girly cartoons in a different language

[Anonymous No.15741519]

>>15740794
>desudesu
Oh god the memories of Nyan Neko Sugar Girls

[Anonymous No.15741530]

>>15740791
>everything is a fad or a meme
People who enjoy whiskey enjoy trying different things.

[Anonymous No.15741542]

>>15741530
"People who enjoy whiskey" is a meme

[Anonymous No.15741549]

>>15741542
Well shit. Can’t argue against such a well formulated assertion.

[Anonymous No.15741554]

>>15741530
>t. hipster

[Anonymous No.15741559]

>>15741554
You never try different things? Is it OCD?

[Anonymous No.15741563]

>>15740629
U.S. is a significantly closer ally to the United Kingdom especially economically when compared to Japan. Scotch is a larger industry in Scotland than whiskey is in Japan. Also, dumbass weebs will buy Jap whiskey for a high price.

[Anonymous No.15741565]

>>15740607
does Toki have grain or is it all blended malt?

[Anonymous No.15741679]

>>15740607
>If you want cheap Japanese whiskey there's always Suntory.
Suntory doesn’t export their cheap “regular” (Kakubin) whiskey to the US, or any of their other cheap varieties.
They already own Jim Beam, so it would make zero sense for them to push their other stuff into the cheap whiskey market segment.

>>15741565
Toki has both malt and grain from several of their Japanese distilleries; similar to Hibiki, but using much cheaper components.
It’s pretty good if you can find a good price, but I see some places selling it for more than $40, which is insane.
The taste is very light. Suntory intended it to be more approachable than many whiskeys. This also means people who drink a ton of whiskey sometimes think Toki is too sweet.

[Anonymous No.15741892]

>>15741679
Toki is really more of a whiskey for Highballs than anything else. Kind of like Fuji Sanroku Tarujuku 50° which I dont think is made (even in Japan) anymore.

[Anonymous No.15741973]

>>15741892
>Toki is really more of a whiskey for Highballs
Yup, it’s definitely more of a mixing whiskey than a sipping whiskey.
I’d also say that about their “regular” stuff too. I never see anyone anyone in Japan drinking ‘Kakubin’ in any form that isn’t the classic “Suntory Highball”. Which is fucking delicious with kushikatsu.

[Anonymous No.15741982]

>>15741679
>nips own Jim beam
Shit really?

[Anonymous No.15742087]

>>15741559
>trying new and different things
Nice faggot propaganda, fudgepacker

[Anonymous No.15742232]

>>15740594
Just make your own Jap whiskey. It isn't hard.

[Anonymous No.15742278]

>>15741982
All distilleries worldwide are owned by the same handful of kikes.

[Anonymous No.15742287]

>>15741973
Yeah I mean I lived in Japan who knows how many of those I drank.
>>15741982
As stagnant as Japan's economy is they are still one of the biggest in the world and their companies and such own a lot things you wouldn't guess they did.

[Anonymous No.15742289]

>>15741563
>Scotch is a larger industry in Scotland than whiskey is in Japan
Probably this. I live in bumfuck, nowehere, Scotland, and there's about seven distilleries within walking distance of my house.
Also, I have never seen a single Scotsman ever order Johnnie Walker in a pub in Scotland.

[Anonymous No.15743478]

>>15742087
kys chud

[Anonymous No.15743544]

>>15742232
This, buy a distillery in Kyoto, anyone can do it

[Anonymous No.15743592]

>>15741982
Suntory is massive.
Not just from alcohol, but soft drinks, coffee, water, etc.
they’re basically the Coke of Japan, plus beer and booze.
They bought Beam back in 2003 or something I think. It’s been a while.

Of course they’re smart enough to not advertise that fact, lest the Jim Beam fans learn they’re now drinking Tojo’s Firewater.

[Anonymous No.15743679]

>>15740594
>Why are Japanese whiskeys so expensive?

They're not all that expensive. I don't remember the exact one, but one of my local grocery stores (that has a huge selection of wines and liquor) has Japanese whisky and one of them is only $28USD. It's a Suntory, BTW.

For comparison, that store sells Evan Williams white label (BiB) 100 proof for $15USD and Old Grand Dad 114 for $26USD. And my last purchase from there was Ardbeg Wee Beastie for $40USD (see pic).

I'll probably pick up one of those $28USD Suntory's next time I'm there.

[Anonymous No.15743720]

>>15740594
Because Scottish brewers had a crisis where no young scottish people wanted to take over and learn how to make Scotch but the japanese did
Auguably Japanese whiskey is closer to scotch than scottish whiskey is now, also weeb tax, obviously

[Anonymous No.15743722]

>>15743679
Wee beastie is good. Especially because its 68CAD vs 96CAD of the ardbeg 10. It's a much more meaty version i think. Almost like a baijiu flavor if you've had Chinese baijiu

[Anonymous No.15743765]

>>15743722
This is how I initially described it - https://yuki.la/ck/15660831#p15669854

I think its "growing on me", though. As I mentioned afterward, it was the first strong, smokey scotch I ever had. The only scotches I had before it was Glenmorangie 10, Glenlivet 12 and Dalmore 12.

To get this thread back on topic, what is the most similar tasting scotch to the Suntory whisky? I assume it will be the least expensive Suntory whisky.

[Anonymous No.15743771]

>>15743765
>WB as anon's first peated whisky
absolute madlad

[Anonymous No.15743776]

>As of April 1, 2021, the Japan Spirits & Liqueurs Makers Association will implement new labeling standards for its association members (note: not all producers of Japanese whisky are association members).

>To label a product as Japanese whisky, the following requirements must be met:

• Distillers must always use malted grains but may also include other cereal grains.

• Water used to make whisky must be extracted in Japan.

• Saccharification (conversion of starches into sugars, or mashing), fermentation and distillation must take place at a Japanese distillery.

• Whisky must be matured in wooden casks stored in Japan for at least three years.

• Bottling must take place only in Japan, with a minimum strength of 40% abv.

• Plain caramel coloring may be used.

• Whiskies that don’t meet the above requirements may not use the names of geographical locations in Japan, the Japanese flag, or the names of people that evoke the country in their labeling.

Get ready for jap whisky to become even more expensive for the next eight years or so

[Anonymous No.15743863]

>>15743776
How exactly is this different from the way they were making it so far?

[Anonymous No.15743918]

>>15743863
A pretty large amount of "Japanese" "whiskey" for sale in the United States isn't made in Japan, and often times isn't even whiskey at all.

[Anonymous No.15743926]

>>15740594
We literally have a whiskey general the mods are being chill about. Please don't shit up the board with more threads and get alcohol posting banned again.

[Anonymous No.15743963]

>>15740594
This is semi-related. Almost every bourbon and scotch distiller uses a distinctive-looking glass bottle for their liquor.

But, almost every Japanese whisky I've seen looks like they use the cheapest masonry bottle they could find. I suppose it makes no real difference, though.

[Anonymous No.15743966]

>>15743863
Pretty sure some Japanese whiskey's were just relabeled scotch whiskey's, Ben Nevis for example.

[Anonymous No.15743991]

>>15743926
alck wasn't banned because it was about alcohol. It was banned because sad faggots were having off topic group therapy sessions and then invading legitimate threads that were actually about the beverages when their pity party threads were pruned. Just discuss the whiskey and it's fine.

[Anonymous No.15744029]

>>15740597
why do you talk that way over the internet? you sound like a stereotype.

[Anonymous No.15744045]

>>15740594
import fees probably
japanese whiskeys are dirt cheap in japan

[Anonymous No.15744066]

>>15743918
>>15743966
I see now, it seems the era of the sneaky samurai will finally come to an end. Now the next step is convincing people not to buy their overpriced shit only because the bottle has fancy chinese symbols on it.

[Anonymous No.15744068]

>>15743963
Ones like in OP pic do because they’re bottom shelf. Bottom shelf spirits in most countries tend to use generic looking bottles.

[Anonymous No.15744078]

>>15744045
>japanese whiskeys are dirt cheap in japan
Cheap Japanese whiskey is cheap in Japan.

[Anonymous No.15744095]

>>15744066
>Now the next step is convincing people to stop liking things I don’t like
Indeed. The true mission of /ck/.

[Anonymous No.15744134]

>>15744095
Joke's on you, I'm a huge weeb and buy overpriced Japanese shit every now and then. Their whisky could never really convince me though, so I'll stick to scotch. Now if the bottle had cute girls on it, that would be a different story.

[Anonymous No.15744161]

>>15743592
>Tojo's Firewater
Kekareeno

[Anonymous No.15744201]

Because it either costs that much regardless or they market it as such and it pays off. Even as a brit I see trash scotch selling for a fortune while the distilleries that choose not to push the mass market maintain a comparable price to trash like Bells despite being top quality aged single malts.

[Anonymous No.15744236]

>>15744134
>Their whisky could never really convince me though
Have you tried a good one instead of just the cheap stuff?
Japan basically makes two types of whiskey. Cheap whiskey for mixing/shots, and top-shelf.

[Anonymous No.15744265]

>>15744078
a generic bottom shelf western whiskey in japan is about $40-50 USD, for that price you can get decent tier japanese whiskey (think johnny red or jack daniels vs a japanese single malt)
t. lived in japan for over a year

[Anonymous No.15744363]

>>15744236
Eh, what I meant was that the cost to performance ratio simply couldn't convince me to buy it often enough, when I can get some great scotch like A'bunadh for just under 55 euro. The most expensive Japanese whisky I had so far was probably Toki which admittedly isn't the best Japan has to offer. I'm always open to recommendations though.

[Anonymous No.15744452]

>>15744265
Generic bottom shelf western whiskeys aren’t in Japan. I know it’s fun to shit on Jack, but there are several shelves below it.
They have their own generic bottom shelf whiskey, like the Tory’s in pic related.
Anywhere I’ve seen Jack in Japan, the cost isn’t significantly more than Kakubin, so I guess we’ve just had different experiences.

[Anonymous No.15744519]

>>15744363
>I'm always open to recommendations though.
Unfortunately we don’t get the “good” stuff, except for a few of Suntory’s single malts and blends. Most of what you’ll see is no-name stuff that even my semi-alcoholic Japanese fiancée has never heard of.
Are you American? If Toki is the most expensive you’ve tried, I’m seriously curious what you’ve found that’s cheaper. Toki is the cheapest Japanese whiskey I’ve found in the US.
Most cost-effective suggestion for something of decent quality I can think of is the entry-level Hibiki, but if it’s over $80, the place is trying to rip you off.

[Anonymous No.15744647]

>>15744519
>Are you American? If Toki is the most expensive you’ve tried, I’m seriously curious what you’ve found that’s cheaper.
Euro here. Toki was around 42 euro I think, Nikka from the barrel was definitely cheaper, also some other stuff I don't really remember. But yes, the selection of Japanese whiskys is very limited, and as soon as I research a bit and hope to get a grasp about what's on the market, 10 new bottles in fancy oh-so-japanese packaging with names I've never heard of are popping up. As age statements aren't really something you can go by with Japanese whiskys (as they're completely unaffordable), I'm quick to lose interest because it's so hard to differentiate high from low quality. Also thanks for the tip, I wanted to try Hibiki Harmony, it's on my list.

[Anonymous No.15744667]

>>15744452
So when Anime shows us christmas cake eating instant ramen and drunk off two cans of beer the "beer" is actually those plastic bottles of booze? Just like how we pretend alcholics in the west drink 3 beers a night instead of an eighth of vodka in our media?

[Anonymous No.15744702]

>>15744452
am i losing my mind? is that a gallon of whisky for $1 or $65? are you fucking with me right now?

[Anonymous No.15744721]

>>15743776
>bullets
that's a first in like 6 years i've seen

[Anonymous No.15744729]

>>15744702
The one on the left is 4L of whiskey (a bit more than a gallon) for roughly $63.
The one on the right is 4L of “cheap” whiskey for roughly half that.
Japan doesn’t tax the everliving fuck out of alcohol like the west does.

[Anonymous No.15744730]

>>15744702
Where in the pic are you reading anything amounting to 1 dollar?

[Anonymous No.15744762]

>>15744667
i just assume they're like real drinkers and either pregamed enough to survive off those 2 cans you see, or are sneaking drinks in the bathroom or whatever to a similar end.

[Anonymous No.15744772]

>>15744762
>they're like real drinkers and either pregamed enough to survive off those 2 cans you see, or are sneaking drinks in the bathroom
I don't live with people who enjoy spending time with me, how does this work? I am confused

[Anonymous No.15744776]

>>15744729
you can get 3.5L of Heaven Hill and Barton products for less than that at times if you're not in a state that has alcoholism to worry about as opposed to a state that already has alcoholism as a business.
>>15744730
the comma fucked me up, along with the angle of the pic and the fact that you can buy a gallon of fuckin hard liquor lol. it just doesn't look like what you'd imagine a fuckin gallon to be pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.15744789]

Scotch tastes like bandages and medical waste. Japanese whisky tastes like pure water, malted barley and smoked wood. It’s just made to a higher standard.

[Anonymous No.15744792]

>>15744667
Depends on the Christmas cake. I’m acquainted with a handful of office cakes from living/working there.
Some are just natural lightweights. A few beers or strong zeros and they’re tipsy.
The ones that drink as a daily routine after getting home from work will combine beer/chuhai with sake and highballs. I don’t personally know any who will drink spirits straight though.

I kinda wonder if the ones in anime tend to more often be the lightweights so they appear “cuter”; a lot of Japanese guys might think it isn’t cute if a woman can drink them under the table.

[Anonymous No.15744821]

>>15743776
This is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.15744825]

>>15744772
Imagine you are a drunkard but want to pretend to be a normie in order to not get treated like a freak of nature in social settings - you'll have a beer or two like everybody else, but ultimately, you like being drunk way too much to actually only drink that much. Therefore you have a few options:
>just drink at full speed in front of others and get a range of reactions from disgust and judgment to "worried about your health". this is to be avoided.
>get drunk enough to handle the evening before you even are around anyone else, then only have 1-2 beers during the social event to more or less maintain your buzz (or at least avoid cratering into sobriety)
>bring your own liquor, for women frequently carried in the purse but there's various solutions. vodka in the water bottle etc. and drink that on the sly one way or another such as in the bathroom as i said before, and again only have 1-2 beers while other people are looking

Overall the point is to create the illusion that you are drinking a lot less than you are, while also maintaining a high enough alcohol intake to arguably enjoy yourself properly, as drunks like to do. My proposal was that anime characters who are portrayed as serious drinkers and yet on-screen have only a modest number of drinks may be assumed to be employing a strategy like the ones I have outlined, similar to how real life alcoholics do.

[Anonymous No.15744844]

>>15744825
now this is autism

[Anonymous No.15744848]

>>15744776
>you can get 3.5L of Heaven Hill and Barton products for less than that at times if you're not in a state that..
They’re still taxed up the ass federally, and much of the cost is still that tax.
So for the price, the Japanese whiskey is still better.
Personally I’d take that $35/4L bottle of Torys in the pic over anything Barton makes. It’s actually perfectly fine whiskey for mixing. Whereas I think being homeless is a prerequisite to drink Barton stuff.

[Anonymous No.15744879]

>>15740607
>cheap
Might be a UK thing but that shit costs about £10 more than most other whiskeys.

[Anonymous No.15744882]

>>15744844
>this is autism
Clearly you’ve never known/been a legit functional alcoholic or serious lush.
You’d be surprised what people like that do to drink more than they appear to be drinking.

[Anonymous No.15745252]

>>15740594
it's because while whisky and liquor isnt taxed in Japan, it's marked up along the way as it's exported overseas.

Akashi whisky in your OP pic (by the way, i used to live a mile from that distillery) only retails for $8 or so in Japan.
I've seen it for around $60 here overseas.

[Anonymous No.15745261]

>>15741982
have done for years.
from like 2014 onwards they started really pushing Lola (half-japanese blonde celebrity) advertising campaigns on Japanese facebook, introducing bourbon to Japan.

[Anonymous No.15745280]

>>15744078
>>15744045
all whisky is cheap in Japan.
scotch that's $70 a bottle overseas like Johnny Walker Black is literally $15 a bottle in Japan.
they only tax malt content in beer, they dont tax other alcohols in Japan.
plus with the Yen being fairly strong too they win most of hte time when buying foreign shit.

This is why Japan's full of BRs and Flips now, because even on a bad day the yen is so strong that 800yen an hour in a shitty minimum wage job is enough to support an entire extended family back in the Phillipines.

[Anonymous No.15745358]

>>15745261
For me, the biggest mindfuck was seeing the ubiquitous “Suntory highball” marketing and bar glassware suddenly start to also advertise “Jim Beam Highball” alongside it.
I mean yeah, any whiskey can be used for a highball. But in marketing terms, the Suntory Highball was the default highball.
Pic related; a yakiniku place in Izumisano.

[Anonymous No.15745369]

Scotch can also be quite expensive and Japanese whisky can also be quite cheap. Your point?

[Anonymous No.15745400]

>>15743918
>>15743776
>implement new labeling standards for its association members (note: not all producers of Japanese whisky are association members
It's probably not going to affect anyone who is a member of that association anyway.

[Anonymous No.15745433]

>>15745280
>scotch that's $70 a bottle overseas like Johnny Walker Black
Not sure what “overseas” you’re talking about, but my local liquor store in murrica sells Jonnie Black for a lot cheaper than that; Their highest price on it is $65, and that’s for a big ass 1.75L.
But you’re definitely correct in that the Japanese government doesn’t rape liquor prices with tax.

[Anonymous No.15745457]

>>15745358
Jim beam is suntory

[Anonymous No.15745491]

>>15745457
Yes. That’s literally my point. After Suntory acquired Jim Beam, they’ve continually stepped up side-by-side marketing.
Suntory had always marketed as if they’re the only whiskey in existence, and the only “correct” choice for a highball.
Seeing them advertise a “Jim Beam Highball” is like if McDonald’s were to start advertising a Big Mac made with Whopper patties because they bought Burger King.
Yes it would then be the same company. But it would still seem surreal.

[Anonymous No.15745577]

Even Suntory Toki is $36 here now when it shouldn't cost more than $25

[Anonymous No.15745583]

>>15745491
yeah I didn't read the thread before posting that

[Anonymous No.15745600]

>>15745577
I find it anywhere between $25-$45
Suntory’s wholesale price stays the same; the difference is in if the retail liquor store wants to fuck people over.
I also buy Suntory’s Hibiki at $70-$75, but have seen some stores selling it for over $100.

[Anonymous No.15745875]

>>15741982
Yes, the Japanese also purchased Austin-Nichols in an attempt to emulate Wild Turkey but learned that among the necessary ingredients are Kentucky air, Kentucky employees smoking in the rickhouse, being moved by Machines in Kentucky, etc. Try as you might, Wt101 is impossible to recreate, they correctly identified it as the superior bourbon.

[Anonymous No.15745899]

>>15745875
wild turkey is literally distilled dogshit and you're as delusional as the jim beam fuckers, at least your dogshit is a little bit cheaper.

[Anonymous No.15745988]

>>15745875
Except they didn’t try to emulate it.
They bought it so the existing outfit could continue making it.
Same as when Suntory bought Beam, or when Brown-Forman bought Jack.
Buying a producer of a product like alcohol simply to try to copy their product is pointless. You fucking own the producer. You don’t have to emulate shit.

[Anonymous No.15746145]

>>15745491
Jim Beam is just to play on Japanese fantasm of Western style. It is what I use at home since I can't buy that suntory whiskey in the state. The only times I could tell the difference is if I got the mega size, or they used more alcohol to soda water ratio.

The white horse highball was the hot thing last time I went.

[Anonymous No.15746154]

whiskey in japan is about as cheap as whiskey in america, its probably just tariffs + low volume exports causing higher prices

[Anonymous No.15746249]

>>15740663
Those are bottom tier trash made for highballs.

[Anonymous No.15746267]

>>15745358
every whisky company has pushed the hi-kara meme so now everyone associates whisky with fried chicken in Japan.
not that i'm complaining, it's a great combo.
just in japan you can get fried chicken and a whisky highball for under $5 in a restaurant, where in the west the highball alone will set you back $12~15 and you'll have to wait 45min for your $20 fried chicken

[Anonymous No.15746270]

>>15746145
>Jim Beam is just to play on Japanese fantasm of Western style
It’s not that complex. It’s literally just Suntory trying to market its new toy. Beam was unheard of in Japan until Suntory started pushing it. The default “western whiskey” there has been Jack for a long time, and still is.
Not that they aren’t trying though; you have to look really hard to see Suntory mentioned on any import Beam labels

[Anonymous No.15746279]

>>15746270
>Beam was unheard of in Japan until Suntory started pushing it
realistically this.
I was bartending as a side-gig (for fun) for a few years when I lived in Japan from 2015~2019.
Until Lola's ads with her in a low-cut t-shirt drinking Jim Beam in the sun Japanese had literally never really heard about or cared about bourbon.
The only people who used to order bourbon in the bar before that was foreigners.
Even then, only the occasional ballsy Jap salaryman would order Jim Beam. They'd still go for a kaku-highball or something made with a nice scotch instead.

[Anonymous No.15746293]

>>15746279
It’s an image board, bro.
You gotta show them some Beam-Lola. Not just mention it.

[Anonymous No.15746295]

>>15746293
to be honest, i'd have to fight the urge to fap to her if I started looking up photos of her, and i'm working right now lol

[Anonymous No.15746299]

>>15746295
ah fuck it, i'll post a few for the fap bank later

[Anonymous No.15746302]

>>15746299
the slogan they used was "I love it, this smell..." and Lola is a half-jap half-russian celeb who's basically the Taylor Swift of Japan

[Anonymous No.15746305]

>>15746302

[Anonymous No.15746311]

>>15746267
>tfw you'll never experience knocking off work, going straight to the izakaya around the corner from your house and grabbing 500yen worth of fried goodness and whisky again
I miss Japan bros.
Why do western restaurants charge so much and try to be so pretentious?

[Anonymous No.15746335]

>>15746311
Because westerners generally like to be pretentious and act like everything is a status level.
If a place sells food and alcohol at nicely cheap prices, it’s a “dive bar” and you’re “white trash” if you go there.
Hell, just look at any /ck/ thread. Anything even slightly inexpensive/common/accessible/popular is automatically shit, and that’s pretty much the very definition of an izakaya.

[Anonymous No.15746351]

>>15746311
because money keeps the trash out. japan doesn't have that problem, because their lower classes can generally behave themselves in public, whereas ours are revolting, and anything a darker shade than greek are absolute animals in the lower classes.
we can't have nice things because we are soft on poor, ignorant fucks that ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.15746398]

the cheap canned alcohol meme needs to take off in the USA

[Anonymous No.15746417]

>>15746335
>food and alcohol at nicely cheap prices
I havent seen a place in the west that does food for under $12 in decades.
same with alcohol. good luck trying to find a place that does a pint under $10.

[Anonymous No.15746422]

>>15746398
we already have Strong Zeros in Australia.

[Anonymous No.15746776]

>>15744848
>taxed up the ass
nope.
>for the price, the Japanese whiskey is still better
can't say.
>$35/4L bottle of Torys in the pic over anything Barton
yep.
>being homeless is a prerequisite to drink Barton stuff
sorta.

[Anonymous No.15746792]

>>15740601
How do you know OP is American? I think anon's right, I see American posters recommending "cheap" American whiskey and it's actually expensive af.

[Anonymous No.15746854]

>>15740597
>>15740594
SEA monkie here. Scotland is further away than Japan but our nippon whisky forded 1 mirrion times is usually more expensive than the cheapest scotch blends from actual Scotland. Or maybe nihonpon only wants to sell us the expensive stuff? I dunno.

[Anonymous No.15746861]

>>15746422
>>15746398
I tasted strong zero in SEA. It knocked me out faster than other cheapass 8 percent alcohol beers.

[Anonymous No.15746910]

>>15740594
Because it’s a scam. They’re not expensive because of the liquid, but because of it being “””from japan”””

In actuality, Japanese whisky is primarily sourced from Scotland, so you’re basically buying cheap scotch whisky for large amounts of money, with the only difference being it has been a trip to japan.

[Anonymous No.15746956]

>>15746910
Same goes for italian olive oil, it only needs a month being stored in Italy to be labeled as italian olive oil.
Protip; If you want the best olive oil go for Spain or Greece.

[Anonymous No.15747420]

>>15746956
Every time I go on holidays to Apulia I buy a 10L tank from small scale producers just for that reason, fuck supermarkets

[Anonymous No.15747452]

>>15740594
Japanese whiskey regulation is more in line with scotch than american whiskeys. The price comes from production costs and shipping

[Anonymous No.15747866]

>>15746956
You know that they tell you where it's pressed right

[Anonymous No.15748090]

>>15740615
Enlighten me, faggot

[Anonymous No.15748094]

>>15740594
>Question.
>Opinion. False information.

You jewish?

[Anonymous No.15748169]

>>15748094
It’s just /ck/ grammar and vernacular.
>Question
It’s not actually a question. It’s more of an invitation to what the ‘asker’ hopes will be a (you)-filled circlejerk with anons who agree
>Opinion
It’s the subject of the circlejerk, to be reiterated by those anons who agree
>False information
It’s the required opinion to have if you want to be as cool as OP

[Anonymous No.15748342]

>Jim Beam is owned by nips
Should I be using Jim Beam in my highballs since it's dirt fucking cheap?

[Anonymous No.15748398]

>>15748342
depends on your preference. Beam is nutty/spicy and dry whereas Toki is light/fruity and sweet

[Anonymous No.15748402]

>>15748342
Of course.
See >>15745358 and >>15746293
Suntory has given Beam it’s full official blessing for ハイボール use.

[Anonymous No.15748489]

>>15748398
I do like the fruityness of Toki in my highballs. Are there any Beam variants that have fruityness or sweetness? I've never actually tried the stuff before, kinda dismissed it as bargain bin liquor

[Anonymous No.15748708]

>>15748342
>it's dirt fucking cheap
I wish
Shit's fukken $50 a bottle

[Anonymous No.15748813]

>>15748489
It’s bourbon.
It is much stouter than Toki.
That being said, using it in a highball would be much closer to the “real” Suntory highball than using Toki.

Normally they use “regular” Suntory (Kaku/Kakubin) for the highball, and it’s a grain whiskey aged in bourbon barrels. It has a lot more in common with Beam than Toki.

[Anonymous No.15748945]

>>15748489
sweetest thing you'll get from Beam is probably Red Stag Black Cherry or maybe Jacobs Ghost if you can find it

[Anonymous No.15749707]

>>15740615
distance doesnt matter you fucking mongoloid. Fish caught in the atlantic, then packed in china and sold in the UK is cheaper that domestic.

[Anonymous No.15750584]

>>15746422
Holy shit really? You are lucky. I lived in japan for two years and I miss Strong Zeros so much. It is almost kind of a good thing I cant get them because they turned me into an alcoholic but as soon as the world opens up I am going to Japan to drink some strong zeros outside a konbini and wander around.

[Anonymous No.15750603]

>>15750584
white claw is unironically better
>inb4 seething weebs

[Anonymous No.15750623]

White claw sucks you stupid piece of shit. Fuck off normalfag. You only like white claw because you were brainwashed into doing so. Idiot. High Noons are the current normalfag trend anyway you stupid fuck. Why the hell would I drink 6 white claws and be bloated when I can drink two Strong Zeros? Who wants to be constantly drinking shitty weak whiteclaws while they are out and about traveling around japan? What is the point of your post? Who is that whore? Why did you post that picture? Fucking dumb normalfag.

[Anonymous No.15750682]

>>15750623
>strong zero
mate, I was an alcoholic in Japan for a while, and that shit will rot your gut. It's made with the lowest grade alcohol possible, and packed with so much fucking sugar. can't even look at them these days, without feeling a hangover coming on

[Anonymous No.15750685]

>>15750584
>drink some strong zeros outside a konbini and wander around
you know they have a word for loser gaijin like you now, right?

[Anonymous No.15750695]

>>15750584
Absolutely fucking agreed. Strong zero is nectar of the gods.
Pic related; breakfast on Hikari Shinkansen from Osaka->Tokyo.

[Anonymous No.15750706]

>>15750695
And dinner on the return trip.
Since it’s evening, larger strong zero is okay.

[Anonymous No.15750728]

>>15750685
Not that Anon, but no. Please tell me this word. Because if you grab convenience store chuhai in the afternoon and drink it outside the store, you’re literally “doing as the Romans do”.

[Anonymous No.15750752]

>>15740607
>>15741679
>>15743592
All I know is the Suntory I can pick up easily in the US (rectangular bottle) is the TITS on the rocks with OJ. Great summer drink. Goes well with sliced apples n oranges too.

[Anonymous No.15750762]

>>15750728
You're doing as the lower class trash and homeless do. Even exhausted salarymen buy it and drink it on their walk home, trashing the evidence so they don't get scolded by the wife and have their allowance cut.

[Anonymous No.15750801]

>>15740594
>imported
>high demand
>overhyped
there's your answer.

[Anonymous No.15750864]

>>15750762
Quite wrong.
Low class and homeless certainly don’t buy chuhai. They buy cup-sake or spirits if they can afford it.
>and drink it on their walk home, trashing the evidence
That’s literally why you drink it outside the store with whatever snack you bought. Trash/recycling cans are right there.

[Anonymous No.15750917]

>>15750864
>t. tourist
learn to read the air

[Anonymous No.15751224]

>>15750917
You misspelled ‘resident’, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
You never did divulge that “word they have” for those loser gaijin who do the same thing their coworkers do.

[Anonymous No.15751355]

>>15751224
more like dancing english monkey lmao

[Anonymous No.15752219]

>>15740594
Japanese whiskey standards are very strict.
Some Japanese shochu is sold as whiskey in the United States.
From April, the standards for Japanese whiskey will be further strengthened.
Many of today's Japanese whiskeys are no longer Japanese whiskeys.
There are only a few really genuine Japanese whiskeys. And they are made seriously.
However, for the same price, Scotch is better.

[Anonymous No.15752652]

>>15746422
Strong Zeros in Australia aren't cheap.
They're what... 150JPY ($1.50) a can in Japan compared to $10 here.
The only cheap alcohol in Australia is (cask) wine because they get tax breaks.

[Anonymous No.15752722]

>>15740786
here in NYC, a can of Sapporo is $1 at asian grocery stores. Comparably, the same sized can of Budweiser is $1 at corner stores.

[Anonymous No.15752789]

>>15752722
sapporo isn't imported into the us, like most big beer and soft drink companies they lease their brand to local breweries rather than exporting it into other countries

[Anonymous No.15752813]

>>15749707
>distance doesnt matter you fucking mongoloid. Fish caught in the atlantic, then packed in china and sold in the UK is cheaper that domestic.
You should learn how subsidies work, because it's very obvious you have no idea how economics work.

[Anonymous No.15752831]

>>15750695
Why don't you choose this one?

[Anonymous No.15752996]

>>15750682
If you cant understand thats why the are great or why white claws are shit there is no helping you.

[Anonymous No.15753007]

>>15750762
>>15750685
>>15751355
Why are you trying so desperately to pretend you know literally ANYTHING about what Japan is or isn't like when you clearly have never been let a lone lived there? And why are you trying so, so hard to act superior over literally nothing? What sort of projection and/or coping is this?
Hating Japan on a Japanese inspired website in a thread about japanese things doesn't make you cool, you know?

[Anonymous No.15753313]

>>15740594
Nippon whiskey folded a thousand times. Stronger than Scotch

[Anonymous No.15753526]

Only island nations can make whisky. Nobody else can make whisky.

[Anonymous No.15753995]

>>15743722
>Drinking chinese