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/tea/

This thread is for discussing tea, tea bags, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

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>>15689154

>> No.15709104

>>15709096
hairy crab oolong best oolong

>> No.15709119

>>15709104
Doesn't it taste like tie guan yin?
No thank you.

>> No.15709170

>>15709119
What's wrong with (roasted) tie guan yin?

>> No.15709173

>>15709170
It tastes bad.

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>>15708947
>videos, reputable factories and experience
oh well, sounds like that's how it is then
>>15709086
>reputable factories and experience, also lurk moar
harsh
though I get you, same as every other tea but in its own little pu-erh world, I'll look into it

now I'm drinking a piss poor jin jun mei that I won't bother reviewing because it's piss poor, I got it a few months ago with a bigger order from fullchea/health tea house and for my numerous positive experiences with them I can't recommend getting black teas there

>> No.15709600

Having some 80's liubao this evening, has been stored in Malaysia for most of that time

I need to locate some aged Sea Dyke Mixiang for cheap, good comfort oolong

>> No.15709691

>>15709534
>harsh
it was not intended to be. i was describing my own puerh learning process. if i knew of a comprehensive guide i would have given it to you. honestly, at this point the mystique has become part of the fun for me. there is something kind of satisfying about finding the answer to some obscure question that you have been searching for for.

>> No.15709802
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god bless king tea mall

>> No.15709860

why do people hate microwave tea so much

>> No.15709997
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15709997

>Jinggu sun-dried silver needles white puerh tea cake spring 2020
The dry leaf smell is very faint, smells a bit sweet. Put the leaves in a prewarmed pot and now it smells just like silver needles i've had in the past. After rinsing, the smell is still there, only with wet woody notes now. The taste is typical with the silver needles ive had in the past. Light, refreshing, faintly sweet spice flavor. Mouth cleaning effect. Im thrilled with this one. Would really like to see how this one ages, as of right now its not very different at all from loose silver needles.

>> No.15710257

>>15709600
>Having some 80's liubao
where from?

>> No.15710590

>>15709997
We seem to have opposing flavor notes

>> No.15710592

>>15709600
>80's liubao
Essence of tea?
>I need to locate some aged Sea Dyke Mixiang for cheap, good comfort oolong
I was really surprised when i heard people say they make fake boxes of sea dyke. Then i realized the fakes were of aged teas. I know people say ebay is full of fakes, but when i actually had a vague idea what i as looking at i was shocked at how many fakes are on there, and how blatant many of them are.

>> No.15710600

>>15709802
Haha nice. My last order with them was in the middle of the bat flu incident, and it took about a month and a half.

>> No.15710820

>>15710590
I just backchecked yours. I brewed mine a bit hotter at 90c so maybe thats why were getting different flavors out of it. Not really getting mushroom taste, and the sweetness I'm getting is more of a plain sugary sweetness rather than something fruity.

>> No.15710825

I love green tea.

>> No.15710853
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So what is the deal with this Gentea seller on eBay? Teadb says all the tea he sells is fake. I almost considered ordering from him once before i knew better but fortunately his $20 shipping charge scared me away. All his listing pictures seem to be very lazily stolen from Chinese forums or tea books. He actually made me wish i could block sellers because I see so many of his listings when searching for certain things.

>> No.15710955

>>15710853
>Teadb says all the tea he sells is fake
does he mention them anywhere else besides the passing note on his vendor list.

>All his listing pictures seem to be very lazily stolen from Chinese forums or tea books
you reverse image searched their stuff?

i have always been a bit curious about generationtea.com and have never been able to find much on them. they are definitely suspicious as their prices and selection are all over the place. if they are a pure scammer its suprising how long they have kept up the con job. i cant imagine many people buy from them. the irony is back in the day people accused them of being overpriced https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/generationtea.127891/

>> No.15711087

>>15710955
>does he mention them anywhere else besides the passing note on his vendor list.
No, i wish there was more info, for other vendors he links to other bloggers commenting on it, but i can say that gentea does not pass the sniff test, something seems off to me.
>you reverse image searched their stuff?
I haven't reverse imaged searched, it's things like the super low resolution images, the fact that the pictures aren't consistent from listing to listening and have a very specific vibe that he is stuck with the images he could find. Almost every vendor has pictures of the dry leaves, brewed leaves and tea liquor in most of their listings, while he only does very rarely.
>i cant imagine many people buy from them
Consumers are really dumb. I'm no longer surprised by anything. I realized when i saw that every Chinese vendors best selling puer cake is one that is $10-$15 that claims it is made out of Banzang material. Consumers actually want to be lied to, and if one vendor won't sell them sweet little lies they will seek out another vendor that will. Even if all the tea that gentea sells is low quality poor tasting garbage he probably has a loyal fan base somewhere made out of a combination of Dunning Kruger and the sunk cost fallacy. Who knows, maybe the tea he sells is half decent quality stuff just 20 years younger than he says it is. How many USA consumers can tell the difference between a liu bao from 2006 and 1986? Maybe a few thousand? Less?

>> No.15711334

>>15711087
How many USA consumers can tell the difference between a liu bao from 2006 and 1986? Maybe a few thousand? Less?
almost certainly less.

rant incoming:
honestly, i am not sure whether that are very many who can taste the difference even in Asia. i would love to see some blind taste tests. super old stuff is so expensive it probably goes to rich businessmen who are not necessarily actually tea enthusiasts. not to mention people tend to rate things higher if you tell them it is expensive even if its cheap. no one wants to be a sucker and people who buy boutique things like to pretend they have exceptional taste regardless of whether they posses it. some of the vendors may be able to tell the difference but they also have a conflict of interest on the topic. most regular individuals would have to just trust the vendor who could be embellishing or calling the wetter stored tea older than the dry stored stuff. its not like most people back then could afford to store a bunch of it themselves even if they wanted to. i also don't trust that there has not been some cultural revisionism. there seems to be a desire to bring back "traditional" things in China now that it has opened up a bit more and there is more of a middle class even if such things are not really 100% accurate. how many people where actually drinking 30 year old tea 50 years ago? was this widespread desire for super aged tea a thing back then or is it a more modern fad? i am sure someone drank it but how common was it? puerh only blew up in prestige and price in the last few decades it used to just another type of tea to get at the shop in HK not some sort of collectable. when did tea pets really become a thing? the peasants and common folk where in no way historically having fancy gong fu sessions all time.

>> No.15711341

My tea from Taiwan finally came today but i guess it required a signature, so i will have to wait untill monday to pick it up.

>> No.15711379
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My last of my gear came today
What more gear do I need

>> No.15711464

>>15711334
>how many people where actually drinking 30 year old tea 50 years ago?
Probably none. I'm not super educated on the subject but it seems like most puer was wet stored in HK for a few years till it was considered drinkable, then sold. It seems like the initial big interest in aged teas, at least liu bao came from all that tea that was sitting around in Malaysia after the collapse of the tin mining industry there. The fact that all this tea was shipped there and then forgotten about for 20+ years sort of implies that untill there was demand for aged tea, the stuff that was sitting around was so low value it wasn't worth the cost of shipping it back to hong kong.
I agree that determining the age of teas is very difficult. I would bet there are a handful of major wholesalers in China, probably in their 80s at this point who were wholesaling tea 40 years ago might be able to tell you how old a batch of tea is in it's original wholesale packaging, based on a combination of memory and instinct. But as soon as that tea is out of the 30kilo baskets or crates, you have to trust every seller along the chain between the guy buying the whole baskets and you is telling the truth about what exactly they think they have.
One of the issues of gentea is the stock that he has, he has the products you would expect to see in the shop of a second or third generation HK tea dealer without having any provenance himself.

>> No.15711505

>>15711379
You need a set of 6 or so cheap small cups for serving guests. Also a nice incense burner and some glorious nippon incense.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-Incense-Stick-Cone-Burner-Stand-Holder-Iwachu-Cast-Bowl-Iron-JAPAN-MADE/143642266309
https://scents-of-earth.com/incense-of-nobunaga-oda-baieido/

>> No.15711531

>>15711505
That's a marble incense burner on the right, very heavy
I have a brass one in my prayer corner, but idk if I want to use it for tea
>6 small cups
yeah, only got 2. Only friend likes doing tea ceremonies with me tho

>> No.15711547

>>15711531
>That's a marble incense burner on the right,
Oh i missed it,
Yeah i keep thinking i need tons of cups but i will only ever serve maybe 3 or 4 people at once .

>> No.15711561

Poorfag here, what are some decent (for their price) cheap teas?
After using it for something other than making sweet tea, I found that dollar tree tea tastes like shit, but I'm working on cutting some of the excess soda and sugar out of my diet, but both sweet tea and soda are frighteningly cheap.

>> No.15711606

>>15711561
See
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g-p0593.html
Also
https://kingteamall.com/collections/black-tea/products/2020-black-tea-dian-hong-yunnan-hong-cha-loose-leaf-tea-hong-cha?variant=37636821942452
https://kingteamall.com/collections/black-tea/products/2020-early-spring-xiao-zhong-souchong-black-tea-hongcha-fujian?variant=32464115007591
https://kingteamall.com/collections/tieguanyin/products/2019-autumn-xiao-qing-special-grade-tieguanyin-oolong-tea?variant=31601010344039
https://kingteamall.com/collections/fenghuang-dancong/products/2020-spring-fenghuang-dancong-mi-lan-xiang-honey-orchid-fragrance-oolong-tea-chaozhou?variant=32259520135271
Also most of the tea on yunnansourcing.com is pretty affordable.
Also
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-fenghetang-yunnan-black-tea-dianhong-maofeng-500g-p0325.html

>> No.15711617

>>15711561
bang for your buck chinese and brew them gongfu(more leaf multiple infusions) works out cheaper than western brewing. all you really need is a gaiwan. here's 2 blacks and an oolong
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/anxi-hairy-crab-mao-xie-fujian-oolong-tea?variant=32917367488615
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/yunnan-black-gold-bi-luo-chun-black-tea?variant=32839353860199
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/high-mountain-red-ai-lao-mountain-black-tea?variant=19810310848615

>> No.15711628

>>15711606
>>15711617
Thanks m80s

>> No.15711653

>>15711561
Loose leaf is actually surprisingly cheaper than you'd expect, on pay with bagged teas.
Many looseleaves are in the $0.05 to $0.19 per gram range, which is about the price range you expect for teabags as well.
A black tea I could recommend is
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/black-tea-spring-2020/products/ninger-golden-honey-aroma-yunnan-black-tea?variant=20317947887719
Which is about $0.09 per gram, about the same price as twinnings.
I'd link the US website but everything is out of stock because it's almost harvest time. Shipping is a bit expensive from china

>> No.15711668
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I got a Snowflake Da Wu Ye Dan Cong Oolong, which was the thing I was most looking forward to in my purchase
I'm heavily heavily disappointed. it's floral to the point of it feeling like drinking perfume, bad mouthfeel, tons of astringency. Over two brews I think I'm just stopping and moving on to something else.
Brewed at 92 f for 20s + 5

>> No.15711682

>>15711668
try full boiling? drinking some cheap ass Dan Cong myself right now and its less astringent with boiling vs 90c

>> No.15711686

>>15711668
>drinking perfume, bad mouthfeel, tons of astringency
that's most dan tsongs for you, stick to the yancha

>> No.15711692

>>15711653
>Loose leaf tea is actually surprisingly cheaper than you'd expect
I'm actually shocked to see this be the case, and it seems you get more steepings out of loose leaf tea, as well as the fact that it's probably better than most/all bagged teas. I'm fine drinking some Twinings until things come back in stock (since I've generally had shit luck with things arriving from China, and if shipping costs are high it might negate some of the cost benefit of buying the teas linked thus far); what's the US website?

>> No.15711703

>>15711668
Try full boil, cut the first infusion to about 5 or 10 seconds.
>>15711692
Yunnansourcing.us new stock should be in over the next month or so.

>> No.15711712

>>15711682
>>15711703

I can't do full boiling, I'm the high altitude anon

>> No.15711746

>>15711712
what do you mean, your water will not bubble rapidly if you heat it for long enough?

>> No.15711755

>>15711746
No, 92C IS full boil for me. I can't get water to 100C at my altitude

>> No.15711756

>>15711712
Either way try cutting your initial brew time way down, 5 seconds or so, and see if that makes any difference

>> No.15711785

>>15711755
>At 2,438.4 metres (8,000 ft) in elevation, water boils at just 92 °C (198 °F)
from wikipedia the free encyclopedia

oh wow, that's pretty significant difference from 100 C, sorry to hear that

>> No.15711798

I need a cordless electric kettle that is precise and can go down to at least 120F

>> No.15711814

>>15711798
>cordless
wait what?

>> No.15711821

>>15711798
>cordless
what in the..

>> No.15711830

>>15711798
>I need a cordless electric kettle
Doesn't exist z you would have to rig something up with a 1.5 kilowatt inverter and a car battery. It would weigh about 50 pounds.
You might be able to make something that uses an 18650 laptop battery bank or one of those battery packs for electric powertools, but it would be quite the project.

>> No.15711873

>>15711798
ignore the zoomers, i too remember when the power cord would plug into the back of the kettle. 120f is probably a big ask for a kettle, mine has a led readout so if i wanted to i could pull it off at that temp but the lowest setting is 60c (140f)

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>> No.15711902

>>15711873
Not even a zoomer. Where tf you from, ingerland?
Here in the states everyone used stovetop kettles and boiled with fire until recently, kettles only started catching on here in the last decade

>> No.15711911

Fuck does anyone else have really badly stained teeth?
Idk if it's the tea or 3 cups of double espressos I drink daily but mine are completely fucked up, literally brown spots on the surface of my front teeth and brown on the sides of my teeth

>> No.15711913

hibiscus with lemon on ice is pretty dank

>> No.15711923

>>15711873
Thanks dude, that’s what I meant. Kettles used to be corded.

>> No.15711925

>>15711911
Yes, but I don't brush daily

>> No.15711955

>>15711923
so the last time you've seen an electric kettle was in the 90's and it had the cord sticking out of it. now you demand a PRECISE one that goes to 120F AT LEAST.
done any research yourself?

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>>15711902
yeah bongland, just as we pulled the americas out of the stone age we've also let you leap frog the corded kettle. you are welcome.
>>15711923
i wouldn't spend a lot of money on one, just aim for the volume you need and as little plastic as you can. most of the fancier ones seem to have everything in the base where as mine is in the handle

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>>15711955
I’ll settle for 140. And no, I haven’t done any research. Maybe the paste in should have some info so I don’t bug you pretentious niggers.

>> No.15711971

>>15711967
Pastebin*

>> No.15711978
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15711978

Switched to trying Snowflake Song Zhong Oolong
Tremendously more balanced. Plum flavor hits the mouth, with a nice thick liquor and great mouthfeel. A strong floral aftertaste that mellows from with brew, making it very well rounded the further you go. The floral after flavor lingers, creating a subtle dryness on the tongue that makes you want to take another sip. Leaves small very typical of oolong, nothing remarkable, maybe a bit of a sugarcane smell that develops after a few brews. Burned a bit of incense, which really elevated the experience.
Brewed at 92C for 15s + 5s, 7 grams in a 160 mL gaiwan.
I would rate it a 7.5/10, it's not the best Tea, but very acceptable for a Dan Cong

>> No.15711982

>>15711967
no worries nigger, find one that looks good for you and link it here asking for advice.

>> No.15712003

>>15711967
Nah, we like to help usually.
This thread is like 80% americans, so european things tend to elude us

>> No.15712028

>>15711978
I need to proofread my posts, ffs so many wrong words

>> No.15712042

>>15711885
lol, i got a good laugh out of that.

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>>15711885
Haha thanks for making the diagram.
Now i actually want to make a kettle that runs off a Makita battery pack.

>> No.15712074

>>15711911
fluoridosis (dont image search it)
Talk to a dentist or doctor you may be consuming too much flouride from some source.

>> No.15712089

>>15711978
Glad that worked out better. I was wondering if the last one was an issue because of the low oxidation and low roast, maybe a bit too gentile treatment for a dan cong? But i don't have a ton of experience with oolong.

>> No.15712128

>>15712089
whatever it is, it may be the worst tea I ever got from YS
Just unbearable. I might try to use it for making blends because it's so aggressive, but if that doesn't work, I'm going to pawn it off on a friend. I'll post the results of the blending experiments when I get to it, but I have quite a bit of oolong in my order to try because I get to trying to make blends.

>> No.15712166

>>15712128
>perfume
while i have not tasted very many dan congs the few i have were quite perfumey and i believe that is a common character for them so if you don't like that then it may not be the best class of tea for you.

>> No.15712183

>>15712166
the Song Zhong is also a Dan Cong, and the perfume flavor is better
It's just the Da Wu Ye is far overboard. I like perfume-y floral teas, but the Da Wu Ye is insanely intense. It reminds me of when I was a kid and prayed my mom's perfume in my mouth to try and emulate those old timey cartoons where men had breath spray. It literally tastes like spraying a bottle of perfume straight into your mouth

>> No.15712226

This Song Zhong is holding well, but it's the last day of finals week for my semester and I'm staying up all night.
Next tea, an Anxi Oolong, or an Autumn black?
I also have some Ba Da Mountain Ripe as the freebie, probably going to season my yixing with it

>> No.15712332

>>15709691
I really do get you as that's been my experience with other experience with the other types of tea, but it's still harsh to be told to lurk moar, as true and useful that might be
>>15710853
you can block sellers from ebay search results, look it up
>>15711334
>how popular and prized was pu-erh 50 years ago?
https://hojotea.com/en/posts-38/
>>15711561
lots of dan cong, decent zhu cha, maybe cheaper tie guan yin
>>15711798
get yourself any kettle + an instant read/infrared thermometer
>>15711668
seeing your other post you might want to try using less tea and letting it steep for a bit more, like a short wash and then at least 30s
it might not be a strong or bold tea, but chance are it should be fresher and sweeter than that
>>15712226
>last day of finals
these trying times really are making me long for my uni days
anyway, a more oxidized tea would be better for keeping you awake, a deeper red such as keemun or smoked stuff like lapsang souchong or jin jun mei if you're into sweeter stuff

>> No.15712372

>>15712332
>these trying times really are making me long for my uni days
I went back to Uni because of last year. I'm older, 25, just going for my master's now. Might as well do it while I can't get steady work
>deeper red
I'm down of reds because waiting for the harvest. I got a Bi Luo Chun and that's about it

>> No.15713003

>>15711978
Lasted about 7 brews, so about 1 gram per 160 ml liquor for me.
pretty decent value

>> No.15713034

How long does loose gunpowder tea last? I've got some that's a couple of years past its BBE date and though it tastes fine I'm not sure if I should keep it.
>>15711911
Yeah I have the same problem, I drink black coffee daily and my teeth get as yellow as a smoker's. I found using an electric toothbrush helps. It's gotta be one with a rounded head though.

>> No.15713075

>>15709096
Even organic tea is full of agrochemicals. Don't ingest this garbage

>> No.15713077

>>15713034
>How long does loose gunpowder tea last?
Untill it tastes bad and you don't want to drink it.

>> No.15713129

>>15713075
Nah. Tastes good

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Yixing seasoning time

>> No.15713153

>>15713138
I really hope you will damage your pot by boiling it and finally show us why it's not recommended. Godspeed.

>> No.15713166

>>15713153
I'm doing an extremely soft boil, about 90 C

>> No.15713168

>>15713166
Well crank it up coward. I need to hear the rattling. Otherwise why boil at all?

>> No.15713170

>>15713168
Its rattling just enough to be sketchy even at this temp

>> No.15713191

>>15713170
Very good, so it's "seasoning" now in its own factory dust. Don't change the water.

>> No.15713201

>>15713191
If you say so sensei.

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>>15713201
Doesn't show well on camera, but somewhat impressive layer of scum from the pot

>> No.15713224

>>15713201
Arigato konnichiwa. That way it will absorb the so called Geist of Yixing. It's like feeding dying fish a piece of its own flesh, to get the freshesr sashimi.
Did it cracked yet?

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>>15713224
No sensei.
30 minute slow boil didnt crack it. Even dropped the lid on accident when pulling it out and it remains intact

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A former student of mine asked for my help with the English explanation to the essentially wild growing bancha from Yaizu her group was going to sell.
I was happy to help out, but I asked about ordering some of the tea for myself and she said international shipping would be too difficult. RIP.
Anyone ever try fermented bancha, because now I'm curious.

>> No.15713318

>>15713278
>fermented bancha
Sannen Bancha? or something else?

>> No.15713319

>>15713278
>she said international shipping would be too difficult
haha, nice dodge on her part. I hope you did it for free.
>fermented bancha
sound like some weeb shit, I wouldn't touch it with a stick.

>> No.15713342

>>15713318
Yes, that's what the Kanji (and English) says.
>>15713319
I wouldn't charge a former student, but it was also only like five minutes of editing.

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>>15713242

>> No.15713420

>>15713342
>I wouldn't charge a former student
Why not? She bring many apples to your desk? Well, if 5 minutes of your professional expertise is worth nothing then can you please help all the ongoing translations for retro games, gccx episodes and other jap shows?
No idea about this particular tea, which means it's probably not worth any attention. No hidden gems in the tea world at this point.

>> No.15713440

>>15713420
Because any decent teacher wouldn't stop supporting their students. It isn't that my skills are worthless, it's that my former students will always have access to them if they need.
As for the tea, this dude >>15713318 has clearly heard of it. I'm not big into tea, that's why I came here to ask. The idea that you don't already know is so it must not be worth knowing seems kind of absurd.

>> No.15713450

>>15713342
>Yes, that's what the Kanji (and English) says.
i think that one is just aged a few and not really fermented in the traditional microbial sense.

here is some Sannen Bancha if you want to try some
https://yunomi.life/search?type=product&q=Sannen+bancha*

here is a store with some of the different types of microbaly fermented Japanese tea.
https://yunomi.life/collections/furyu-bancha-specialty-shop#

there is also Yamabuki-Nadeshiko a nontraditional tea fermented with sake kōji mold.

>> No.15713459

>>15713416
great, now you're boiling off the whole paint.
do you really need a white clay you racist?

>> No.15713466

>>15713459
Jesus christ lol

>> No.15713468

>>15713459
Lmao

>> No.15713470

>>15713416
What tea is that?
What process are you following?
What's next?

>> No.15713473

>>15713440
>15713318 has clearly heard of it
admittedly i just googled "fermented bancha" but i also have not gotten into Japanese teas yet.

>> No.15713494

>>15713319
>weeb shit

wtf does /tea/ have against japanese teas

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>>15713450
Nice, the stuff in stock is from Fujieda and Hamamatsu. Shizuoka tea is the best tea.

>> No.15713510

>>15713470
Ripe Puerh
Kinda verdant's but longer boiling and tea rest
I guess next step is to just use it

>> No.15713526

>>15713510
Are you going to use it now? What is the first tea you are going to brew in it?

>> No.15713541

>>15713526
I'm letting it air dry first
Going to use the same tea, Ba Da Mountain Ripe

>> No.15713544

>>15713494
it's just one or two guys, the rest of us love over designed derivative tea products from chemically controlled soil, it's like in my animes. have you seen Unkle Iroh? he's so shade grown that he developed a bald spot on top of his head.
>>15713504
see, here my senpai is posting some totally rad and appetizing appropriated Nihon dishes.
don't judge the the /tea/ by vocal minority.
have a nice stay (* ^ ω ^)

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>>15713541

>> No.15713581

>>15713555
Do you think it's a bit less shiny than before? I don't know if it's just better lighting but it seems like i can see more clay texture than before.

>> No.15713586

>>15713581
I'll do a before and after side by side when itd dried completely

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>>15713544
I know this is your schtick, but I had that in Osawa in Shizuoka city during Osawa Engawa Cafe. Everyone in the small tea-growing neighborhood opens their home to serve tea and small dishes to customers for the day.
Its absolutely wonderful.

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>>15713581
It appears to have gotten shinier

>> No.15713685

>>15713651
oh shit I'm sorry. errata:
>>15713544
see, here my senpai is posting some totally rad and appetizing Nihon dishes. Osawa Engawa. wish you were here! ()

>> No.15713704

>>15713682
look at the bright side, the lid fits better now and you got a little bit fatter.
can you link us to the pot in question now?

>> No.15713717

>>15713704
I'm not really fatter, just the way my hand is being held.
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/yixing-pottery/products/hei-jin-gang-clay-bian-xian-fang-gu-teapot-by-yan-li

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>>15713685
That's better.

>> No.15713727

>>15713718
edit out the spoon retard, you look like the creature from Jacobs Ladder.

>> No.15713938
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Hairy Crab Anxi Oolong
9g/160mL
92C
First of all, the annoyance of rolled oolong expanding is there. Didn't seam to impact much the volume of water I could put in.
Pretty soft, 1 note tea, but not bad. Just a light, airy floralness, doesn't coat your mouth or anything. Solid tea.
7/10

>> No.15714029

>>15713938
Have you tried a da hong pao (big red robe) oolong? I think that is the most floral oolong i have had, if you had some i was wondering how it compares to that dan cong you had earlier in terms of floral/ perfume notes.
The only dan cong i had was super heavily roasted and i ended up accidentally aging it for a few years, i didn't like it when i first got it but after the roast had time to mellow it was very nice and fruity.

>> No.15714033

>>15713682
Is it time to brew?

>> No.15714041

>>15714033
probably tomorrow

>> No.15714048

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>> No.15714092

test

>> No.15714290

does any of you guys know how to get high off tea? teach me

>> No.15714308

>>15714290
Long Jing or good Pu'Erh, drink it gong fu, drink it rapidly

>> No.15714397

>>15709096
Does anybody else like really heavy malty breakfast teas

>> No.15714407

>>15714397
They are nasty, what's your favorite? Have you tried a CTC (crush tear curl) English or irish breakfast blend?

>> No.15714423

>>15714397
I kinda do

>> No.15714444

>>15714308
i was afraid id get answers like that. what about western styles?

>> No.15714485

>>15714407
nothing beats being pummeled by a ctc assam

>> No.15714524

>>15714444
>four 4's
Shame
>What about western styles
Use too much water to tea to get dense extractions. If you made like a double or triple strength tea (with looseleaf) and let it steep until it was unbearably bitter, I suppose it's possible, I just wouldn't try it.

>> No.15714550

Thoughts on hibiscus tea?

>> No.15714618

>>15714550
It's pretty tasty, i have only had cheap versions but i want to try a nice whole flower version.

>> No.15714621

>>15714618
>flower water
doesn't get much more effeminate than this. congratulations, today you realised how gay you are

>> No.15714722

>>15710257
>>15710592
A friend of a friend who is a collector over in MY

>>15710592
ye it's very common, it's really easy to fake loose aged tea as well because generally you won't have a clue unless you try it

>> No.15714868

>>15714621
Great, first people call me a puer lesbian and now I get called out for this as well.

Whenever I try to escape from the puer domination by trying flower teas I like, my butch girlfriend canes the soles of my feet until I cave and drink her puer again, so I came here to find other herbal-loving anons, but alas.

>> No.15714950

My girlfriend and I occasionally drink black tea, but find it very weak in flavour when using bags and boiling water. We recently resorted to breaking the bag open and boiling it in a saucepan of water instead, like chai. This has helped somewhat.
Any idea why the normal method is not working?

>> No.15714960

>>15714950
It's probably just old tea.

>> No.15715037

>>15714950
Buy different tea, I'm not a huge fan of bagged teas but i remember pg tips being so strong i used it to make a small pot of tea instead of a single cup.

>> No.15715370

>>15714868
stop having bad taste

>> No.15715855

>>15714550
too tart on its own

>> No.15715878

why tf aren't white cakes a huge thing

>> No.15715969

>>15715878
>why tf aren't white cakes a huge thing
because they are a modern trend that only got popular by riding on the coattails of puerh. its hard to usurp the thing that is the source of much of your popularity. i am not sure what you are complaining about though white cakes are popular enough to be readily available. do you want white tea to triple in price because they become even more trendy or something?

>> No.15716002

>>15715969
I just want more variety in white tea
It's not necessarily modern from what I know, just commercialization is modern. Farmers tend(ed) to keep a few white tea cakes to themselves out of their unsold stock before they learned that people want to buy them

>> No.15716028

>>15716002
>I just want more variety in white tea
fair enough, if should be easy enough to just make white tea out of different varietals.

>It's not necessarily modern from what I know, just commercialization is modern. Farmers tend(ed) to keep a few white tea cakes to themselves out of their unsold stock before they learned that people want to buy them
why would they have cakes in the first place if that was not what was generally sold? i don't doubt white tea cakes probably existed in some form previously i was just commenting how (as i understand) aged white tea and white tea cakes are more of a modern phenomena.

>> No.15716065

>>15716028
IIRC it was just something farmers kept for themselves if they owned a tea press, but it wasn't generally a product other people wanted to buy for a long time. It's easy to make and tastes alright.
Kinda like how dairy farmers keep their own farmers cheese that's not really a marketable product outside niche markets

>> No.15716125

>>15714397
yeah, the trick is to use double the number of leaves when brewing western style (or just brew gongfu). Really brings out the malty flavour of the tea.

>> No.15716163

>>15716065
>if they owned a tea press
but why would a farmer who does not sell pressed tea own such a thing? what tea would they have been pressing in Fujian back in the day? I not trying to argue against you so much as i am trying to be inquisitive.

>> No.15716184

>>15716163
It's not like pre-industrial tea presses were expensive, even today there's tons of farms with their own little 1930's tea roasters that just roast their own garden teas for themselves.
Making teacakes for yourself is silly easy and makes it last longer. Steam, wrap in a cloth, press something heavy on it for a few hours.

>> No.15716236

>>15716184
i can buy that. i wish their were more good detailed references on tea history in English.

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First brew after seasoning it
Glad I went with ripe. Definitely adds a depth to the brew, a bit of a "dusty" flavor is noticeable but not distracting. I assume that flavor will mellow overtime.
lid gets crazy hot

>> No.15716494

>>15716163
why wouldn't the farmers also process their teas? cakes and bricks have been produced for centuries, its not hard to pack leaf in a bag and uses a manual press especially when the cakes are usually 350-500g

>> No.15716881

>>15716494
>why wouldn't the farmers also process their teas?
i never said they would not process their own tea but i don't think Fujian white tea was pressed all that commonly historically. why would they prepare tea for them selves a different way than what they sell? just toss a basket or two in the rafters.

>its not hard to pack leaf in a bag and uses a manual press especially when the cakes are usually 350-500g
i takes work to carve a stone press and i doubt there were a bunch of them just sitting around in a region that does not use them much. where would they learn the technique?

if white tea cakes were being made in quantity back in say the 80s or 90s why are they not available for sale.

>> No.15716898

>>15716881
White teas were available in the 80s and 90s bro.

>> No.15717042

>>15716898
>White teas were available in the 80s and 90s bro.
i said "white tea cakes" not "white tea".

>> No.15717175

how are chawang shop's shipping rates?

>> No.15717304

>>15717175
They are pretty good. Don't let having to ask for a shipping quote scare you, he actually does it so he can offer better rates from what i can tell.

>> No.15717310

Farmers keeping a few white tea cakes around sounds like a just so story from a vendor to me. But I'm a retard so maybe im wrong.

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>>15711798 HERE

Bonavita Variable Temperature Electric Gooseneck Kettle

How about this one?

>> No.15717465

>>15717310
white tea cakes are pretty feminine qi, stands to reason tea houses didn't serve them

>> No.15717594

>>15711798
i know the oxo brew Adjustable Temperature Pour-Over Kettle is suposed to go down to 140f.

>> No.15717883

>>15717457
>Gooseneck
good for pour over coffee but with a gaiwan and short brew times a 5sec pour really isn't optimal autism. shame kettles cater to coffee faggots

>> No.15717890

>>15717465
finally a solution to the puerh dyke problem

>> No.15717895

>>15712332
>>15709086
as an update on:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/shudaizi-2020-mo-lie-yunnan-raw-puerh-tea-cake-spring-tea-shen-puer-200g-p0702.html

i discovered TealifeHK has that exact same cake and says it is ok (and he sells it for over twice the price...):
https://www.tealifehk.com/products/2020-nerd-molieshan-raw-pu-erh-cake-200g

so if you are still interested in getting it it may be worth a shot. be sure to report back if you do.

>> No.15717926

>>15717883
I have that exact gooseneck kettle. You can pour as slow as you want with it, but if you just pour at its max speed its still got a pretty fast flow.
Like maybe a second to fill a 100ml gaiwan. The gooseneck makes no difference for tea, trying to say its a negative is just silly.

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>>15709997
Drinking some more of the silver needles cake today. On a whim I decided to try it grandpa style in a wine-glass, I love how the leaves stick up vertically like blades of grass. Such a refreshing tea to have on a warm day like today.

>> No.15718223

>>15718169
Cool effect, how is it grampa style?

>> No.15718542

I have looked at the pastebin link and am confused. Where are the links to Indian teas? Why does the majority of the tea "culture" here in this general appear to be Chinese? China is not the only country that specializes in tea. While I have no problem with Taiwan and Japan, please place more emphasis on Indian teas and her culture.

>> No.15718553

>>15718542
China is the originator of tea, India barely got it 200 years ago.
Anyhow, Upton has tons of Indian teas.
Chinese teas are just the most interesting? They have the most variety. India is mostly strong blacks.

>> No.15718576

>>15718542
i've asked 3 or 4 times now for vahdam to be added for indian tea

>> No.15718600

>>15718553
Excuse me, but this is not true. I think you have misunderstood India and perhaps listened to Chinese propaganda after they had normalized relations with Cairo. China's history is not as old as you think. About the same age as the Indus Valley Civilization. Beijing added nearly 1500 years of fake history to "one up" Egypt. And if you think Chinese tea is interesting, perhaps you should go to Assam or Darjeeling for a tea tour to understand the time and care that is put into the growth, harvesting, and distribution of authentic Indian teas.

>> No.15718626

>>15718600
Britain introduced tea into India

>> No.15718634

>>15718626
Just like Britain introduced you to opium rat eating yellow dog.

>> No.15718663

>>15718634
Sir Indian history channel is on /int/, Please do the needful and relocate your shitpost.

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>>15711967
Fellow stagg ekg.

>> No.15718684

>>15718223
It lends to grandpa style very well, the thin glass walls of the wine glass helps cool it off quickly too so it never tasted oversteeped.

>> No.15718692

>>15718674
OOoh, now that's interesting. Worth it? ANy other anons confirm?

>> No.15718696

>>15718634
shoo shoo pajeet. this is not a designated shitting thread. why don't you go harass white women for bobs and vagene on facebook instead

>> No.15718698

>>15718634
serves them right for not engaging in mutual trade

>> No.15718709

>>15718600
wtf you trying to say? Indians didn't grow Tea until the British Empire wanted to take away the Chinese monopoly

>> No.15718722

>>15718698
Tea trade was fine until the bongs ran out of money.

>> No.15718760

>>15718722
yeah exactly because China wasn't buying British goods, trade was only flowing one way. same thing happened with the US navy forcing Japan to open up and accept commerce

>> No.15718766

>>15718760
China was already the sick man of Asia. Had nothing to do with British.

>> No.15718790

>>15718766
they weren't buying because they didn't have money, they refused to buy, that was the problem

>> No.15718809

>>15718692
I use mine for tea pourovers and manual espresso 15x a week minimum. The raven is the same kettle without a gooseneck. My dial goes down to 104 but I haven't tested how well it holds temp down there. Its only .9L so make sure thats not a dealbreaker. Aesthetically the best kettle on the market for sure tho. Theres a couple exclusive colors if you really want to sperg on it.

>> No.15718822

>>15718766
China was okay in the 1820s
It was everything after that lead to a downfall

>> No.15718835

>>15718760
>>15718790
What did British industry produce that was worth commercial export?

>> No.15718876

>>15718809
I do 4 infusions max with my gyokuro, .9L is perfect, actually.

>> No.15718895

>>15718835
cheap textiles, guns, good metal

>> No.15718911

>>15718895
Chinese didn't deserve trade. They should have been enslaved. Look at them now. British Empire and Kissinger are responsible for this nightmare.

>> No.15719019

>>15718542
There are several sellers in the pastebin that sell good quality Indian tea, there are not however many good direct sellers of indian tea from India to list in the pastebin.

>> No.15719029

>>15719019
You didn't name one of these "several sellers"

>> No.15719039

>>15719029
Capital teas in Canada, upton tea imports in the USA, what-cha in the UK

>> No.15719059

>>15719039
Was that so hard? Now update the paste bin and give full credit to India like you do the rest of the countries.

>> No.15719097

The indian tea market is different than the chinese or Japanese tea market. Most inding plantations sell all of their tea to wholesale tea distributors and then business that sell to consumers purchase the tea from the wholesalers and offer it for sale in their shops. There is not a lot of Indian teas packaged by Indian tea factories in retail packaging for retail sales that are exported internationally. The indian domestic market is pretty opaque to me as an american. It would help if you would like to share some shops that sell retail quantities of tea internationally in English that i can explore instead of turning this thread into an argument about Indo Sino relations.

>> No.15719113

>>15719059
I don't think you understand how this works, all those shops are in the pastebin, all listed under the country the store is located in. Im bot really interested in humouring some belligerent Dalit.

>> No.15719180

>>15719113
I would not have internet if I were Dalit you piece of shit racist.

>> No.15719244

>>15719180
>you piece of shit racist
>I would not have internet if I were Dalit
lmao

>> No.15719257

This thread turned out to be funniest in the recent history. Closing it with stereotypical assblasted Rajesh is like a cherry on top.

>> No.15719297

>>15719257
>stereotypical assblasted Rajesh
You love to see it.

>> No.15719312

>>15719257
top 5 moments from this thread, go!

>> No.15719416

>>15719097
>Most inding plantations sell all of their tea to wholesale tea distributors
i know a few sell direct as well but i don't have the links right now

>The indian domestic market is pretty opaque
I still think it is better than dealing with a lot of Chinese loose leaf. for an Indian tea you normally know what plantation grew it which more than can be said for most Chinese teas. Heicha is the big exception where most goods are sold by recognizable brands.

>share some shops
i am not the same person who has been complaining in this thread but i will point out some shops i have been looking at:

https://www.jayshreetea.com
i believe they own a bunch of plantations

https://www.teabox.com/
wide selection

https://www.ketlee.in/
not big plantation but has some neat stuff

others:
https://yatrateacompany.com/
https://www.darjeelingteaboutique.com/
https://www.vahdamteas.com/
https://www.goldentipstea.com/

>> No.15719455

>>15719416
Thanks anon! i will check these out

>> No.15719511

>>15719416
Thanks so much anon, at least some of these are some actually respectable looking shops that have proper information about what they are selling, harvest date, etc. I was really lacking some good india based sellers to recommend.

>> No.15719563

>>15719416
>>15719455
neat blog post
https://www.terrytheise.com/post/darjeeling-revisited-the-best-teas-of-the-2020-summer-season

India:
https://www.thunderbolttea.com/

Ceylon:
https://teakruthi.com/

https://shop.dilmahtea.com/
mostly bulk lower grade tea but they own estates

Nepal:
https://nepalteallc.com/
https://www.nepaliteatraders.com/

Be sure to tell use if you find any useful sites or buy any interesting tea.

>> No.15719595

>>15719416
>>15719563
as a final note besides https://www.uptontea.com/ https://www.teatrekker.com/ also has some good looking stuff stateside.

>> No.15719638

okay i added a few shops from >>15719416
that i thought looked good.
I didnt add
https://www.ketlee.in/
Can i get someone elses take on these guys?
Im a bit wary of their attempts to make puer and outside of that their selection is pretty limited.
I also didnt add
https://www.vahdamteas.com/
I know one anon has been asking for it, I dint like them last time i looked at them, things seem a bit better in terms of their selection and info now. My big issue is that they don't provide time of harvest for their blends, I have been trying, and there are definitely exceptions, to only list vendors that say when their tea was harvested. I don't really like when this information is not listed.

>> No.15719923

>got the puerh poops again
Wtf causes this

>> No.15719940

>>15709860
The idea of microwaving water/tea to heat it up is just so gross to me. I know there is literally nothing wrong with it but its just one of those autistic hangups ill never get over.

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>>15719940

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>>15713075
>*schluuuuuuuupppph, ahh tasty*

stay thirsty nigger

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>>15709096
does anyone else have it when you brew tea once and get an amazing brew, they you try to brew it again later, and boom! it tastes nothing like the previous time and not only that but it tastes worse.

that is the problem with tea, is I find it is hard to create a final product that is constant in taste

mfw

>> No.15720699

>>15720662
You're exposing it to air boy

>> No.15720786

>>15719956

meme picture, who cares. Show me data faggot

>> No.15720792

>tea bags
>ctrl+f
>360 noscope not found
This thread is gay.

>> No.15720853

>>15717895
the description and liquor color are a fair bit different between the two listing so who knows what will happen but fuck it, I bought a cake
see you again in 25 years when it arrives
>>15718542
because chink and asian tea in general is more varied and often considered more interesting, both because of the tea itself and because of the culture surrounding it, so nobody with enough knowledge and time made the effort to include links and resources on indian tea
if you have all of that by all means make a new pastebin with the relevant info added, though know that if you simply add two lines of indiaboo propaganda (>>15719059) nobody will give it a second look
>>15719956
>the 5G in the microwave is killing the plants
h-huh

>> No.15720941

finals anon here, been awake 36 hours thanks to god old Ba Da Puerh. This stuff got a kick.
Just like 1 more paragraph and I can sleep
I would wind down with a white, but man, I'm really tired. I'm probably going to be a traitor and drink wine.

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>>15720699

tell me, tea-sage, is air exposure a bad thing then? which is best for optimal brew and taste?

a smaller pot, that gets full to the brim, perhaps?

what about the kettle, should that be filled near the brim (no air inside)?

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15721031

I traded in my goodboy points so mommy steeped me some Shu Pu'er Nuggies.

>> No.15721089

>>15721028
just keep it air tight in storage and pour it lower to the cup.
the primary reason tea loses flavor is too much air and light exposure

>> No.15721117

>>15721089

oh I thought that you meant the air in the teapot, as in 24 oz pot, yet only 12oz of tea liquor.

>> No.15721365

>>15720662
i think thats food in general, 1st time you eat something your brain makes all these new pathways and connections, everything feels alive and new because it is, every other time you eat it your brain just goes "oh that again." same reason why watching tv shows/movies again it seems to go faster

>> No.15721379

>>15721117
tea can also dry out, autists treat tea like cigars and create humidors for their stash, not me i have 60-70% humidity all year round

>> No.15721447

>>15721089
>pour it lower into the cup
it's actually good for the liquor to be aerated, the issue is with the dry leaves that "get old" being exposed to air

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Look at the amazing colour on this high quality Jin Guan Yin oolong, normally I only get this almost fluorescence-like shine on Japanese greens

>> No.15721760

>>15721379
>tea can also dry out
this is true for things like puerh and heicha however for most tea you want it dry, cool, and anaerobic.

>> No.15721804

>>15719638
>https://www.ketlee.in/
>Can i get someone elses take on these guys?
i have not tried them but as i said before they has some rather unique tea and i like that they mention which teas they think gong fu well. they are the only Indian tea vendor that i know of that has an emphasis on that. they have some interesting teaware as well. someday i would like to put in an order with them and try one of their samplers but that may not happen for a long time. i am not sure whether they belong in the pastebin or not because they are not really a "one stop shop" and i figure the pastebin is more aimed at beginners. i will leave that decision to you. i just think the store looks promising and i like tea shops that provide something different.

>> No.15722019
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Is Pu’erh obsession basically wine snobbery for sober alcoholics?

>> No.15722470

>>15720646
Considering drinking plain water tap water full of chloramines and flouride is going to do the opposite of hydration the only thirsty nigger will be you.

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bros this shit isnt even green wtf?

>> No.15723266

>>15721600
Looks heavenly

>> No.15723276

>>15721804
Thanks anon, i put them in the extended vendor list pastebin that i don't think anyone notices exists

>> No.15723398
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Reply in the next 10 minutes to pick what new oolong im having today.

>> No.15723409

>>15723398
the 2nd one from the top

>> No.15723412

chinabro here agan please stay careful one tea tested have mercury please do good research and enjoy good tea : )

>> No.15723438

>>15722019
It can be, but puerh is good so uts not bad to have some around

>> No.15723466
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>>15723409
Okay so im having pic related, this was a sample and not one of the teas that i ordered, it looks pretty green, so i will have to double check what temp I'm supposed to be using.

>> No.15723468

>>15723412
that's really not a concern
https://pastebin.com/HHesBE36

>> No.15723497
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>>15723398
>summer 2019
>winter 2017
tea harvested in spring is most often a lot better than tea harvested in the summer, and its flavor will deteriorate significantly over a period of weeks unless it's in an airtight container (this is more of a concern with less oxidized teas and less with pu'er, but still), so why are you getting tea that's so old and that was picked in less than ideal seasons?
now of course this is all relative and it will certainly taste like tea regardless of when it was harvested and processed, thought still

>> No.15723529

>>15723497
It's roasted oolong friend, other than the one I'm trying today that i didn't order, so it has certain advantages to being aged that lightly oxidized unroasted green oolongs won't have.
Also Taiwan, much like Japan has very limited farm space and high demand for tea, so like how Bancha is made with summer Japanese tea, Taiwan makes oolongs pretty much year round. I could easily have gotten a lot of spring 2020 green oolong (it's a bit old, probably would have waited for the 2021 crop) from the same vendor but that's not what I'm after.

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>>15723529
i hope ur not mad i picked the free sample anon... maybe you'll enjoy it

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>>15723541
No worries anon I'm looking forward to trying it
>>15723466
About 8g in my 140ml gaiwan, this is after a rinse and the first infusion.

>> No.15723672
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>>15723572
Flavor is very much in the green tea spectrum, vegetal, umami, but with the addition of some oolong creaminess or oolong fermented flavor for lack of better vocabulary to describe it. It's quite nice so far. It's getting some fruityness.
Pic is after the third brew, you can see this tea is opening up quite a bit.
I will post an after action report and a pic of some unfurled leaves later. No pics of the brew because i don't have any white cups handy.

>> No.15723964

You know, I thought I prefered Oolong, but after trying more teas, Oolong is kinda non-complex and same-y
It's very interesting compared to Green and Black, because you don't expect that flavor from tea in a western perspective. But honestly, I prefer black and green to oolong now that I've had a lot of teas. It's not bad, I like it, just for tasting sessions it's not what I want. Brews great western style though

>> No.15724120

>>15723964
Ive just started drinking oolongs, so far i don't really love green ones, but i think ive gotten a pretty big range of flavors. Something like a heavily roasted dan cong or wuyi oolong is pretty different fro. A tieguanyin or a greener taiwan oolong, but i do see the soft of oolong fermentation flavor or i guess just the flavor of oolong processing can be pretty samey.

>> No.15724344

>>15724120
Yeah it's the processing flavor, it's always present. It's not necessarily something easy to get in the mood for like a white cake or a breakfast black.

>> No.15725344

Well i was going to have some liubao but i dumped my full mug onto the counter, so now im having fu cha.

>> No.15725429

>>15725344
>im having fu cha
what kind?

>> No.15725447

>>15725429
Im working through a sample of Baishaxi black box Classic 1953

>> No.15725483

>>15725447
>Baishaxi black box Classic 1953
I really like that production. i would be curious to hear what you think of it.

>> No.15725528

>>15725483
It's good, smokey, creamy, smooth, has that hei cha fermented tea flavor that i want to describe as purple for some reason. I have the same complaint about this that i do with a few other hei cha, i really have to drink them after a heavy meal because they put my metabolism into high gear, can't have em on an empty stomach or really even after a light meal, this particular one is also pretty strongly stimulating but not quite as high octane as some other hei cha i have had.

>> No.15726117

>>15723672
u just pour water over that and drink it from that cup?

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>>15726117
No that's my gaiwan, it's like pic related, you brew in it and then use the lid to hold the tea leaves in while you pour the brewed tea liquid out.

>> No.15726189

>>15726134
ah of course how could i be so foolish

>> No.15726241

>>15726189
My photography is pretty weird

>> No.15726269

>>15709096
Daily reminder tea is satanic and unchristian

>> No.15726309
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15726309

Also thanks to the asshole that linked this guys blog :)
https://www.kyarazen.com/the-kyarazen-subitism-incense-heater/
I will be building one of these incense heaters shortly.
I will make a thread about it on /diy/ when i get all the stuff and post a link here.
Any recs for sites you like for buying resins aromatic woods etc? i found a few good ones but I would like to check out any you use.
I might add some stuff about incense in the pastebin eventually, or at least link to another pastebin thats about incense.

>> No.15726312

>>15726269
Monks drink it by the bucket full
Go to any monastery in Egypt, Syria, Greece, Romania, Russia, ect and the minks will serve you tea

>> No.15726333

>>15726309
we need an incense section in the paste in, its pretty integral to good gong fu
I mostly use sticks but have some charcoal incense, I really need to up my game and figure out what scents match which rea best.

>> No.15726466

>>15726309
np bud

>>15726333
integral? fuck no
some people like it, it'll take away from your tea due to aroma but it can still be nice for a casual session

>> No.15726483
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>>15726269
is this better anon?

>> No.15726494

>>15726333
From the limited reading i have done it sounds like the base scents of lots of traditional Japanese incense is agarwood, sandalwood cloves and then a bunch of other stuff.
I'm not really sure about Chinese incense. I haven't look into it yet

>> No.15726504

>>15726466
You can still smell the tea if you want. It just makes gong fu chill which i find integral

>> No.15726532

>>15726494
I imagine African, European, and American incenses can scent with the flavor to compliment the tea. I can imagine native tobacco based incense can match some smokey oolong or blacks

>> No.15726533

>>15726309
>thanks
you are welcome.

>>15726466
>np bud
??? but i was the one who linked kyarazen in the last thread.

>> No.15726547

>>15726532
I actually have a friend that grows indian tobacco. I'm not sure if i would want to burn that indoors with pets.

>> No.15726571 [DELETED] 

im not particularly fond of English people

>> No.15726643

>>15726547
Could do sage I guess, could imagine that well with green oolong

>> No.15726663

>>15726533
good for you
I guess it means everyone else that also has linked his blog here is irrelevent

>> No.15726692

>>15726663
So it seems that that bloggers store is inactive. Any sites you would recommend for getting resins woods etc?

>> No.15726995

>>15726692
message Kyara
he will send / sell you some

>> No.15727365

>>15726995
Thanks

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Im trying some of this 2007 cnnp peacock cake i got from Taiwan. This seems quite nice, it's well mellowed from Taiwan storage but without any unpleasant storage scents, there i clearly a faint storage note but it's not unpleasant like it has been in some other cakes i have tried. This cake represents basically the perfect degree if storage for my tastes. Ill do a better write up later this week.

>> No.15729033

Coof

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Going to brew a winter black for breakfast

>> No.15730443

>>15729433
Really tippy teas like this look great

>> No.15730605

>>15730443
It turned out pretty okay, should have taken more pictures but I was having breakfast with my wife today
It's kinda a one note, mildly malty black tea. I think it is suited best for western style, gong fu didn't really pull much flavor out of it
"Black Gold Bi Luo Chun" btw. it was practically done by the 4th steeping, which I basically doubled the time from the 3rd and it was still weak.

>> No.15730654

>>15730605
>I think it is suited best for western style
Yeah that makes sense, i have always been content to brew black tea western style.

>> No.15730684

>>15723276
>i don't think anyone notices exists
i have looked at the extended vendor list.

>>15727967
>Ill do a better write up later this week.
i look forward to it. that cake was on my (long term) to buy list. I wish i could just buy all the tea now.

>> No.15730795

How to make it taste? It's just warm water no matter what I do

>> No.15730818

>>15730795
Get better tea, use more tea.
Can't really help if you don't say what you are trying to brew.

>> No.15730898

>>15730795
>warm water
try hot water next time

>> No.15730956

>>15730795
Whats your brewing perimeters

>> No.15731107

>>15730795
read the pastebin

>> No.15731285

>forget to bring lunch to work
>drink 7.5g puerh throughout the day on empty stomach
>shit 5 times, stomach ache, headache
I think I od'd on puerh

>> No.15731648

>>15731285
Damn, i can't drink that much tea on an empty stomach, i would probably puke.

>> No.15731834

>>15731285
This never happens to my gf and she drinks gallons of puer. She gets irritable and semi-violent when the cakes are running low.

>> No.15732420

What humidity level do you keep your pumidors at? After buying some more boveda packs i finally got it up to 55%. I think that's about where i want to keep it, should be fairly safe from mold well still having some humidity.
I am also running out of storage room, i might have to get rid of some stuff.

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180 ml teapot I ordered in jan finally came, i love its looks and all but i'm just not enjoying how it pours. I guess i'm not supposed to fill it up all the way, the water spills out the top when I do, even when pressing down the lid with my other hand. The tea is a roasted oolong, pretty one dimensional taste but its not bad.

>> No.15732705

>>15732575
Water spills out of thr spout or around the lid? A little but blubbing out of thr spout when you put the lid on seems normal.

>> No.15732709

>>15732575
Awesome cup anon

>> No.15732919 [DELETED] 

>>15732705
>Water spills out of thr spout or around the lid?
Around the lid, it doesn't really make a tight enough seal to prevent tea-water from spilling out of the top. I guess its either just a. poorly made, or b. not designed to be filled all the way, because it works fine when I pour it to like 75% capacity

>> No.15732943

>>15732705
>Water spills out of thr spout or around the lid?
Around the lid, it doesn't really make a tight enough seal to prevent tea-water from spilling out of the top. I guess its either just a. poorly made, or b. not designed to be filled all the way, because it works fine when I pour it to like 75% capacity
>>15732709
Thanks, ill leave a link if interested because the seller had lots of designs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/200ml-Jingdezhen-blue-and-white-porcelain-tea-cup-Japanese-style-master-cup-new/202651820768?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=502730052465&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

>> No.15733929

>>15732420
>What humidity level do you keep your pumidors at?
i am planing on targeting 65% humidity but i am using mylar bag storage. 55% should keep your tea happy based on what i have heard but will be slower aging.

>i might have to get rid of some stuff.
i am sure you can find someone to take it off your hands. you could also buy another pumidor.

>> No.15733962

>>15731285
used to get this, green tea was worse, it would keep me up at night with stomach cramps. but now my body has adjusted and i can drink 2L easy with no negative effect

>> No.15734284

>>15732943
Oh i see, when pouring, yeah that's a hassle.
I saw some comment about a porcelain pot where they said if they preheated the lid it expanded some and helped prevent that, but im not sure of an elegant way to do it.

>> No.15734422

My electric kettle just came in.
How should I start off? I’ve boiled 4 times. It still has that factory funk. Use vinegar?

>> No.15734427

>>15734422
wash the outside? also boil some vinegar but be warned it has a lower boiling point and will boil over even if half full

>> No.15734472

>>15734422
Let it air out a couple of hours.
A lot of times, it’s just because it was in the packaging for a while, not because there is oil on it. There is oil, but that’ll come off after your 4 boils.

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looking for a new kettle. chinkexpress is selling this one with gooseneck and temperature control but I don't want it to die after 5 months. Any other suggestion for 100$?

>> No.15735862

>>15735702
i know a least a couple anons here own the OXO Adjustable Temperature Gooseneck Kettle. its msrp is $99 but you can get it for less at bed bath & beyond with one of the 20% coupons they always send out.

https://www.oxo.com/adjustable-temperature-pour-over-kettle.html

https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/oxo-brew-adjustable-temperature-electric-gooseneck-stainless-steel-kettle/1062630160

coupon signup (use a junk mail account because they will blow up your inbox)

https://offers.bedbathandbeyond.com/SignupWidget/dynamic/BBBUS-email-printable-offers_FEO

>> No.15735871

>>15735702
Could go up to like 150 and get a stagg. Or spend less and get a bonavita, thats what I use and its great but I've only had it for 3 months so I can't vouch for its longevity. Theres a million no name chink water heater clones out there that may or may not be good, no way to know without trying it really since you can't even trust reviews anymore.

>> No.15736029

>>15735702
get a zojirushi micom

>> No.15736039

>>15736029
>>15735871
>>15735862
thanks

>> No.15736043

I have had two (half) bricks of puerh sitting in their original wrappers inside a cardboard box on the floor for nearly 2 years now, do you think they are still good?

>> No.15736147

>>15736043
should be fine unless you live somewhere with crazy humidity and they grew mold. what do you have?

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>>15736147
This is what the invoice from 2018 says I don't have a picture of them

>> No.15736223

>>15736187
sounds nice, ripe puerh is supposedly less sensitive to sub-optimal storage conditions as well. did you forget about them or just stop drinking them?

>> No.15736641

>>15736187
Year of the snake should be ready to drink now and pretty tasty. If ripes are not your jam I can take those of your hands.

>> No.15736745

>>15736223
I wanted to do tea a while ago so I ordered a gaiwan and cups and stuff and those two teas but then I just ended up drinking coffee more often. I forgot exactly but I think it was a 100 mL gaiwan and I was using like 7 g of leaf but I was never certain exactly how long to steep it for. I might get into it later but it's inaccessible at the moment.

>> No.15736950

>>15736745
>I was using like 7 g of leaf but I was never certain exactly how long to steep it for.
puerh ; 1st infusion 10 seconds then +5 for every infusion going forward should be good for ~12 infusions or at least that how i do it. greens start with 15 sec, blacks/oolong 20

>> No.15737090

Can’t be bothered to read the thread but I just want to say I once found long black strands of hair in my puerh cake, i’d break bits off and find a strand poking out. I was pretty pissed so i broke the whole cake apart and it ended up being just 2 strands in total, just very long. I ended up adding the strands to my next pot so I could absorb the essence of that poor underpaid Chinese woman. was very nice tea though my Chinese friends said it was for old peasant women and idiot foreigners.

>> No.15737147

>>15737090
The best thing I've found in a cake is a small bit of concrete. I've kept it for good luck.

>> No.15737177

>>15737090
You haven't had the full pu experience till you have found one of those long curly black hairs

>> No.15737198

>>15709096
new thread
>>15737196
>>15737196
>>15737196