/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15666718]

Why did IPAs take off when standard pale ales are far superior?

[Anonymous No.15666722]

>>15666718
Idk, I don't like IPAs.

[Anonymous No.15666808]

>>15666718
Market was still pretty shit at the time and deluded with basic beer like bud light or coors. Than the hipster trend came along...

[Anonymous No.15667083]

>>15666718
might have something to do with ABV. for 20somethings they can get a good buzz for cheaper. i do like IPA but i like all sorts of beer. to suggest pale ales are not popular is simply incorrect.

[Anonymous No.15667105]

>>15667083
Most local breweries I've gone to will have at least 3-4 IPA's on tap. They almost never have Red Ales, which is sad for me.

[Anonymous No.15667113]

>>15666808
I don’t mind “hipster” beers because I like supporting small businesses and microbreweries, but I could never get into IPAs. Also Sour Ales are another trendy beer I find pretty gross. I prefer stouts, belgian-style beers and kolsches

[Anonymous No.15667129]

IPAs are easier to mass manufacture because their extreme hoppiness conceals any inconsistencies in flavor. Yuppies then pay a premium for poorly made swill because of a fancy label and their incorrect assumption that hoppiness equates to quality.

[Anonymous No.15667236]

>>15666718
because IPAs began labelling their beers with manchildren designs so that soyboys would buy them

[Anonymous No.15667246]

>>15666718
Tried this beer.
It's too bitter.

[Anonymous No.15667270]

>>15667129
Yup. If I want to gauge the quality of beer a microbrewery is able to produce, I always order their pilsner. Hard to hide anything.

[Anonymous No.15667311]

>>15667129
This is true, but IPAs are based anyway. They're really fun and easy to homebrew

[Anonymous No.15667371]

>>15667246
Underage?

[Anonymous No.15667650]

>>15667113
Same. All the micro brewers were great because there were a lot of innovated new beers out there and it forced companies like Coors to at least try to adapt.

At the same time some micro brewers just poured as much hops as they could into a beer and called it a day. Hiding their otherwise shit beer

[Anonymous No.15667709]

>>15666718
IPAs suck in general wgaf

[Anonymous No.15667716]

>>15667105
>red ales
If you're hungry just eat something bro

[Anonymous No.15668114]

I like a nice creamy lager and that's it.

[Anonymous No.15668509]

It's the beer of hot sauce enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.15668536]

Idk but I hate this bulshit of quirky wordplay.

[Anonymous No.15670604]

>>15666718

ah you're giving me memories of my early 20's OP.
I used to like a sierra nevada torpedo for a nice nightcap

[Anonymous No.15670612]

>>15666718
because it's real easy to con faggots like pic related into buying nasty microbrew pisswater with artificial flavors

[Anonymous No.15670616]

IPA were brewed with high alc% to increase their resistance to spoiling on long sea trips and for export. they were never meant to be a superior beer, these days they have heavy citrus and fruity notes, some people like this. most people just think they taste like shit, which is the correct opinion

[Anonymous No.15670633]

>>15667113
I don't mind a sour from time to time. They can be pretty good and refreshing on a hot summer evening, kinda approximating beer with juice or cocktail notes. I can't get into the ultra bitter triple IPA shit though, it's nasty. If I want something super bitter I'll pop some strychnine or some shit smdh

[Anonymous No.15671573]

IPAs taste like you put a beer in a glass you washed with soap and then didn't rinse.

[Anonymous No.15672043]

>>15666718
>$20 for a 12 pk now

[Anonymous No.15672075]

I appreciate the microbrew bullshit because I really like porters. Lots of options now.

[Anonymous No.15672102]

>>15667311
>IPAs are based anyway
I actually lmao irl, so thanks faggoo

[Anonymous No.15672936]

>>15666808
>Than the hipster trend came along...
Stop. Just stop. Hipsters drink blueberry peanut butter catnip stout not IPAs. Shut the fuck up with this shit.

[Anonymous No.15672960]

>>15666718
Yeah Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is one of the best brews of all time

[Anonymous No.15673033]

Because IPA's are A) strong and B) summer-appropriate. Which is what the west coast wanted
Before the west coast went ham on the stuff the nascent craft scene was generally varied, but well the west coast is a wasteland of taste and yet it somehow dictates taste to the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.15673056]

>>15668536
not a bad beer tho.

[Anonymous No.15673064]

>>15666808
>>15672936
Hipsters drink bad beer ironically, like pbr.

[Anonymous No.15673075]

>>15673064
Among the cheap-but-not-yet-rotgut beers PBR is relatively inoffensive.

[Anonymous No.15673078]

>>15667129
That's completely untrue.

[Anonymous No.15673082]

>>15673075
For me? It’s rolling rock

[Anonymous No.15673098]

>>15671573
This guy has a refined palate

[Anonymous No.15673104]

>>15667129
>equates to quality.
lol

There's no such thing as an objective "quality" beer. The only way to quantify that would be control of the manufacturing approach and if that is the criteria then Budweizer and the other massive beer brands win.

[Anonymous No.15673106]

>>15673082
Oh yeah top tier of the cheaps, but it's less common. PBR is always just there, it's even on tap when you're a day before payday but your friends want to go to a bar.

[Anonymous No.15673107]

>>15673098
He also eats soap regularly, which is pretty based and alpha

[Anonymous No.15673115]

>>15673106
>tavern I worked at always had Stella Artois and Rolling Rock on tap
>give us a shift beer, or two at the end of double
>even water beer tastes amazing on draught
Comfy times, but I never plan on going back into food service.
My best friend has a math degree and wants to spend the rest of his life in food service, he’s a unique guy...

[Anonymous No.15673142]

Americans are followers. Just keep pumping out IPA because everyone just loves it man. So amazing. UK cask ales are where it's really at. Hand pumped.

[Anonymous No.15673163]

>>15673115
rolling rock on tap? Shit, hell a place there.
tbf math degrees are the psychology degrees of STEM, it's just indecision in degree form.

[Anonymous No.15673199]

>>15666718
Both are good. I like to get flights whenever I go to breweries, I'll try 4-8 beers and the IPAs tend to be pretty good. I actually have some of this in my fridge, but I like the torpedo even more.

[Anonymous No.15673200]

This was the best IPA, back when the label just called it India Pale Ale rather than IPA in massive letters now.

[Anonymous No.15673208]

>>15667105
Haven't had Hobgoblin for a while.

[Anonymous No.15673209]

>>15667105
That is a shame. I love red ales. My favorite IPA is actually also a red ale sort of thing, Tocabaga Red IPA from Cigar City in Tampa.

[Anonymous No.15673235]

>>15666718
I do prefer a standard pale ale to almost any IPA
that said I think the problem a lot of people have with IPAs is that they are drinking them straight out of the bottle. If you pour it into a glass you will be able to smell it better and appreciate more of the aromatic flavors than just the brutish bitterness

[Anonymous No.15673250]

>>15673064
You leave PBR alone you filthy turd burgler

[Anonymous No.15673255]

>>15673163
> hell a place there
for a little hole in the wall, they were pretty upscale and regarded with prestige by most of the small city.
probably couldve secured two michelin stars if we took some of the trashier things off the menu and buckled down
I do regret not taking pictures of their recipes because I forgot a lot of the ones that I only made a couple times and I was just the senior line cook so I didn't have to do any of the fancy good shit.

[Anonymous No.15673268]

>>15673250
PBR was amazing at the party school college town I lived in during college.

but I went back home and it's all fucking skunked because they never move enough to have it fresh. can't drink stinky shit.
same with Heineken, it was absolutely glorious in my home town for the longest time and then one day it all started tasting like skunk.
Stella never has this issue because of the brown bottles maybe?

[Anonymous No.15673304]

>>15670616

They are so shitty. It sucks because some good brewers fall into the meme that they are good because everyone else is making them. Shithole breweries make red ales, ipas, and sometimes a pilsner. If you're lucky they are making a stout (but they don't can that).

The appeal of an 8% beer makes no fucking sense to me. Just drink hard liquor or wine.

I'm waiting for a micro brewery to make an American lager and I have yet to find one.

[Anonymous No.15673555]

>>15673304
You're complaining about lack of diversity, but you haven't had 8% stouts or porters? Barleywine?
I'm not even sure your assessment is accurate, red ales aren't everywhere.

I've seen american lagers from many microbreweries. I can't remember a single brewery in ABQ when I visited that didn't have one. The two college town breweries I had prided themselves on their Golden Ales, but yeah also had IPAs and NE IPAs.

I've been to breweries that literally had 4-6 beers only at any given rotation and it sounds like you have only been to these, but those don't even classify as microbreweries at that point. What town do you even live in where stouts are some mystic beast and you are oppressed by IPAs?

Also, high ABV beer is nice. I love wines and whiskey and cocktailmaking but I also like beer in the 6-9% range.
Anyway, to other people reading this person basically isn't real. The IPA craze exists but if you actually go to breweries you'll know that your favorites aren't being oppressed. Lagers and stouts are everywhere, it's things like golden ales, red ales, and sours that get harder to find. Depends on the region though. Also, IPAs aren't masking a certain kind of flavor, they have wide varieties, which is why they've taken over. They can accomodate more extreme variation than other beer types. I personally prefer very piney beer, as an example, and basically need to drink IPAs and pale ales to get that. No complaints from me.

[Anonymous No.15673561]

>>15673098
>>15673107
Damn right, fuck hops hops are gay

[Anonymous No.15673919]

>>15673555
Sensible post

Where I'm at (coastal California) we've generally moved on from IPAs in favor of sours. IPAs are for boomers now, and places usually have one token IPA and multiple sours. Sucks for me since I don't like 'em but whatever

[Anonymous No.15673955]

I like both

[Anonymous No.15673989]

Real-nigga-truth?
Because it’s much easier to make for a local startup microbrewery.
It’s so hoppy that the beer itself can be dogshit and you can’t really tell. It’s the beer equivalent of dousing food with so much hotsauce that you can’t taste anything but.
Combine this with the fact that they’re also attractive to people who just want to get buzzed but don’t want to actually taste the alcohol.

[Anonymous No.15673996]

>>15670616
And wine and rum were used to purify bacteria-laden water and not meant to be drank full-strength or for pleasure. Things develop from initial practical use into an enjoyable craft.

[Anonymous No.15674038]

>>15673996
Even beer was probably initially used more as liquid calorie source to supplement farmer's diets than to be a tasty drink

[Anonymous No.15674040]

>>15673304
>I'm waiting for a micro brewery to make an American lager and I have yet to find one.
Despite faux-snob beerlets loving to act like such beers are inherently bad, a pale lager is quite difficult to brew well, and keep consistency between batches.
I’ve tried a number of microbrew pale lagers, and they almost always taste sour/skunky; much worse than any of those “evil corporate breweries”, while costing significantly more because of comparatively minuscule production.

[Anonymous No.15675095]

>>15673304
have you had this?

[Anonymous No.15675214]

>>15673304
While no longer a microbrewery (got bought out by Molsons) Creemore Springs has by far the best lager I have ever yet tastes.

[Anonymous No.15675920]

Dude hops lmao dude this beer is good because it has 9000 ibu! I swear if you put Budweiser in a glass told some zoomer nu-male it was some a micro brew Belgian lager or whatever they’d love it.

[Anonymous No.15676461]

>>15675920
I swear you people must not drink anything but smirnoff ice, white claw, and mike's hard lemonade. Bitter is good. Complaining about an IPA being too bitter is the faggest thing you'll ever read on this board.