Why are Italians so triggered by food?

[Anonymous No.15652740]

- particularly carbonara. Since the NYT recipe is paywalled, here's an article about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/feb/25/stop-this-madness-nyt-angers-italians-with-smoky-tomato-carbonara-recipe

[Anonymous No.15652767]

>>15652740
They have nothing else going for them.

[Anonymous No.15652785]

>>15652740
shital*ans have no cuisine to speak of and they know it. They'd be nothing without noodles from Asia, tomatoes from the Americas, Lasagne from England (google it), or Carbonara from the USA.
They are basically brit*sh when it comes to cuisine, but they have a better marketing department. Especially the "ital*an"-americans swallowed the bullshit propaganda campaign from their own country.

[Anonymous No.15652794]

>>15652740
Italians have many versions of carbonara, though.

I bet the people complaining are Italian-Americans, who say mooz or gabagool, and can't speak a full sentence in Italian.

[Anonymous No.15652796]

>>15652740
The NYT is garbage and they should just stop talking. I agree with the autistic Italians.

[Anonymous No.15652801]

>>15652740
surprised that an Italian chef doesn't know that Carbonara is an American dish and that yes, onion, garlic, cream certainly belong into a great traditional, authentic Spaghetti Carbonara.

[Anonymous No.15652805]

>>15652785
>posts cream based carbonara with musrooms

You are literal garbage.

[Anonymous No.15652808]

>>15652740
They have a point. I've noticed that the NYT post fucking weird ethnic recipes. Kenji posted chow mein and then called it lo mein. Also noticed a lot of Vietnamese recipes that they slap on the word pho without rhyme or reason by some Jew lady.

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/12404-vietnamese-style-soup-with-broccoli-and-quinoa

[Anonymous No.15652811]

>>15652801
>Carbonara is an American dish
factually incorrect

[Anonymous No.15652817]

>>15652805
Filipino Carbonara crushes italian style salmonella carbonara easily.

[Anonymous No.15652825]

>>15652785
That looks sh*t

[Anonymous No.15652828]

>>15652817
I don't hate flips, but they need to stick to lumpa and pancit.

[Anonymous No.15652840]

>>15652785
Unironically take your meds.

[Anonymous No.15652856]

>>15652794
>I bet the people complaining are Italian-Americans, who say mooz or gabagool, and can't speak a full sentence in Italian.
These are the absolute worst. they are not Italians no matter how hard they wish they were.

Do you live in Italy?
Do you speak Italian fluently?

If you have to answer both of these questions with "no", you are not Italian.

[Anonymous No.15652860]

>>15652740
>>15652794
>Salmon Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNwvq4WRHjk

>Vegetable Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNnlUOtx8I

>Zucchini Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnEUy0Rwvuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3yD7ISE9cI

>Seafood Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cZWHHMTH4M

>Mushroom and Speck Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPAXu_jRqE

>Spicy Carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWgbhn-Dfw

[Anonymous No.15652862]

>>15652740
Because unlike Americans, not everyone likes to mutt everything up.

>Pastapizza
>Frappuccino
>etc

[Anonymous No.15652866]

Test

[Anonymous No.15652868]

I unironically add shrimp and scallops to carbonara. Sometimes I use rice instead of noodles.

[Anonymous No.15652875]

>>15652811
Most italian dishes are actually american. Their dishes have been modified beyond recognition and italians have copied them even in their own country. Any claims about
>but we wuz pizza chefs
>but we wuz pasta boys
Is raw 100% cope. Pizza is the best example of this

[Anonymous No.15652884]

>>15652740
Reminder that Carbonara was originally made in the aftermath of WWII as a necessity food because of a lack of immediately ready ingredients, and was originally made with American bacon since that was commonly included in civilian rations, since fresh protein was harder to find and much more expensive just following the war. Italians getting uppity about a meal literally designed out of strict necessity which didn't even use the ingredients that they swear upon as "tradition" is absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.15652900]

>>15652811
Look at any country's pizza beside Italy. Does it look like Italian "pizza" to you? Of course not. The world mimics American pizza. Just a fact

[Anonymous No.15652905]

>>15652875
>Most italian dishes are actually american.
Fucking kek. Did you take too much or not enough fentanyl, Cletus?

[Anonymous No.15652914]

>>15652740
>Grindr in the notification bar

[Anonymous No.15652926]

>>15652914
HAHAHAHA good catch. Americans are fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15652937]

>>15652794
I’ve heard the gabagool thing actually comes from Sicily which makes me hate them even more

[Anonymous No.15652951]

>>15652937
Most Italian Americans come from southern Italy since that region was historically poorer and they had more incentive to immigrate. The weird pronunciations that Italian Americans use are pretty much all based on regional languages' vocabulary from the late 19th-early 20th Centuries.

[Anonymous No.15652959]

>>15652860
ITSA OKAY WHENA ITALIANOS DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.15652966]

>>15652914
>>15652926
1 in 6 American gen Z adults are faggots as per the MSM. Go figure...

[Anonymous No.15652970]

>>15652860
>Even literal actual Italians don't stick to the recipe like it's a sacred rule
OH MAMA MAI ITALIANO-PAISANOS, WE GOT-A TOO SPICY

[Anonymous No.15652990]

>>15652905
See: last line from my post

[Anonymous No.15653022]

>>15652990
>last line
An example of your clinical lunacy. Many such cases in your meth-head country.

[Anonymous No.15653137]

>>15652937

The fuck even is gabagool? Is it an expletive?

[Anonymous No.15653149]

>>15652785
>cream
>american bacon
>mushrooms
>cheap "parm" powder
Looks like something Id make drunk at 4 am

[Anonymous No.15653155]

>>15652740
>Grindr
OP, I...

[Anonymous No.15653250]

>>15652856
wider than you, achmed

[Anonymous No.15653266]

>>15653155
Ah the ye olde days when we would always have troll tabs. I miss them bros. This place is a shell of what it once was.

[Anonymous No.15653292]

>>15653137
it's a stupid family guy reference

[Anonymous No.15653312]

>>15652785
pastards seething at the truth
add ice cream from arabs to the list

[Anonymous No.15653320]

Italians are arrogant & low IQ, a really weird combination. Take a look at their shit country, and look at their attitude towards things, such arrogance isn't even found in the most uppity of niggers.

[Anonymous No.15653369]

>>15652856
>Do you live in Italy?
>Do you speak Italian fluently?
>If you have to answer both of these questions with "no", you are not Italian.

how do you feel about all the orc invaders that live in italy. i guess if they speak uour dumb language they are italian, right?

[Anonymous No.15653381]

>>15652740
>Grindr
As always, Op is a retarded faggot obsessed by a nation he has never been in. Seethe, cope and dilate

[Anonymous No.15653384]

>>15653320
>Italians are arrogant & low IQ, a really weird combination. Take a look at their shit country, and look at their attitude towards things, such arrogance isn't even found in the most uppity of niggers

thats one thing i noticed too. they are all bluff and about acting tough. but why dont they stand up to the mobsters that run their country if they are so tough? or the corrupt politicans including the pm that raped young italian women? if they are so great why arent italuans businesses and their economy doing well

[Anonymous No.15653397]

>>15652862
>make bland food better
>mutted up

Ok faggot

[Anonymous No.15653491]

>>15652785
>Lasagne from England (google it)
>Italy claims they were the first, but really should be credited for perfecting the layers and layers of deliciousness that is lasagna. In fact, researchers in Britain found a cookbook with a lasagna recipe that dates back to the 1390s
oh man what a hoot!

[Anonymous No.15653540]

>>15653491
>what a hoot

you need to go back to faggot camp

[Anonymous No.15653576]

>>15652740
>grindr notification

[Anonymous No.15653636]

>amerishites complaining about culture appropriation
like clockwork

[Anonymous No.15653893]

>>15653491
Meds.

>Lasagne originated in Italy during the Middle Ages and have traditionally been ascribed to the city of Naples. The first recorded recipe was set down in the early 14th-century Liber de Coquina (The Book of Cookery).[3]

Liber de Coquina (1285), De lasanis
https://web.archive.org/web/20150212011859/http://www.staff.uni-giessen.de/gloning/tx/mul2-lib.htm

[Anonymous No.15653918]

>>15653576

[Anonymous No.15653919]

>>15653893
Cheese and pasta does not a lasagne make

[Anonymous No.15653931]

>>15652875
>tacos are American too and were invented in california

[Anonymous No.15653976]

americans are not human beings

[Anonymous No.15654021]

>>15653976
>orcs and skaven are not human beings

fixed it for you

[Anonymous No.15654062]

>>15653137
capicola
i'm serious.

[Anonymous No.15654193]

>>15653976
This. Thankfully though they're becoming a minority on their "own" stolen lands so we won't have to tolerate their presence much longer.

[Anonymous No.15654218]

>>15653919
Take your meds. Right now. The recipe, written in latin, clearly describes a lasagna and it even calls it "Lasanis" for crying out loud.

Why are you schizos so hellbent on rewriting history in the most absurd ways?

[Anonymous No.15654492]

>>15652785
>t. hasn't even bothered to read the wikipedia article for noodles
why are opinionlets always so poorly informed?

[Anonymous No.15654496]

>>15653369
more italian than italian americans yes.

[Anonymous No.15654512]

>>15652740
>we invented carbonara btw u do it wrong
They're correct but pretty darn whiney

[Anonymous No.15654514]

>>15652794
Italians are the ones always getting their panties in a knot over Italian American food.

>Oh no, garlic. That's too spicy!
>Oh no, onion. That's too spicy!
>Oh no, mozzarella instead of dry aged le faggio that's only sold in one fucking village in Sicily!

Italians are the biggest prima donnas when it comes to deviating from the recipe.

[Anonymous No.15654531]

>>15654218
>clearly
You clearly don't speak Latin. Lasanis means cooking pot btw.

[Anonymous No.15654686]

>>15654514
The French fall back on adherence to a handful of French Cullinary School practices for their authenticity autism, and deviation from these established standards is criticised.

Whereas each and every Italian lives and dies on his dear old grandmother's recipe, and anyone deviating from her recipe is doing it wrong. As such, the Italians are always upset with everyone, including each other, no one is right, and they can't get a grip.

[Anonymous No.15655205]

>>15652740
>Grindr

[Anonymous No.15655365]

>>15654531
>You clearly don't speak Latin
I used to but I admit I don't speak it fluently anymore.

>Lasanis means cooking pot btw.
Just what do you think the etymology of Lasagna is you absolute cretin?

>"pasta cut in long, wide strips; a dish made from this," 1760 (as an Italian word in English), from Italian (plural is lasagne), from Vulgar Latin *lasania, from Latin lasanum "a cooking pot," from Greek lasanon "pot with feet, trivet." Sometimes nativized as lasagne.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=lasagna

[Anonymous No.15655366]

>>15654514
>Italians are the biggest prima donnas

coulda stopped there anon

[Anonymous No.15655388]

>>15652914
lmao OP BTFO

[Anonymous No.15655436]

>>15654492
>wikipedia
Yes, and gamergate literally got it women raped.

[Anonymous No.15655444]

>>15654496
This is advanced cope. Say hi to your sisters somalian bf for me.

[Anonymous No.15655460]

>>15653022
>he said as the fifteenth bag of garbage piled up on his curb because his country can't get rid of the gangster wops the US dealt with half a century ago

[Anonymous No.15655464]

>>15653266
Yeah, that people couldn't figure out it was the nu troll tabs, I realized how newfaggot filled we've become.

[Anonymous No.15655487]

>>15654193
If you look solely at whites in the US, America actually beats most of Europe when it comes to IQ and has lower crime rates.
So your post is kind of dumb.

[Anonymous No.15655726]

>>15652740
This is fucking stupid. This particular carbonara probably does well because it caters to an American palate. Why would you be upset at someone making a dish taste better for themselves? Why would you be upset with a restaurant tweaking a dish to make it more marketable and overall better for their longevity?

Do you want to be the asshole in the next century yelling at people on hypertwitter because "a real avocado toast should be made on sourdough"? Imagine being that asshole.

[Anonymous No.15655742]

>>15655487
LOL

[Anonymous No.15655753]

>>15655205

[Anonymous No.15655802]

>>15655726
> tweaking a dish
Relpaces Pecorino and guanciale, adds tomatoes. Is it still carbonara?
Short answer: no.

[Anonymous No.15655869]

>>15655802
Mutts dont understand just like they dont understand that a 56%mutt isnt actually white.

[Anonymous No.15655936]

I wonder how they feel about Filipino spaghetti?

[Anonymous No.15655945]

>>15655936

[Anonymous No.15656356]

>>15655802
And a carmel macchiato isn't a macchiato but "vanilla caramel iced latte" doesn't sound that good on a menu, does it? Only autists like us will actually argue the definitions.

[Anonymous No.15656652]

>>15652767
This is the correct answer.

[Anonymous No.15658087]

>>15655487
Total cope
>>15655460
He says as his electricity and running water fails again...

[Anonymous No.15658092]

>>15653369
>orc invaders that live in italy
Read another book

[Anonymous No.15658095]

>>15652740
They're traditionalists and don't like deviations.
If you're going to change the recipe, change the name.

[Anonymous No.15658097]

>>15656356
Well, you could name it something else.
>Only autists like us will actually argue the definitions.
Definitions literally are what the word means. And the ingredients make the recipe. Putting cream instead of milk isn't a latte. It's coffee with cream. Making soup out of potatoes shouldn't be called pea soup.

[Anonymous No.15658101]

>>15652740
Because wops are tradition-obsessed and are mostly too stupid to innovate, so they overwhelmingly rely on the few people they have who aren't semi-retarded and just keep repeating what they come up with.

Seeing people from others make improvements to their country's food makes them flip out with autist rage because they know they're too fucking stupid to do more than repeat what other people have taught them.

[Anonymous No.15658116]

>>15652740
They emphasize tradition and authenticity because they're still recovering from fascism

[Anonymous No.15658120]

>>15658101
>Seeing people from others make improvements to their country's food
Most of these recipes are older than these other countries themselves. You can't find many cuisines that can claim that. Japan is the first that comes to mind, and even their ancient recipes are more niche items only found in establishments dedicated to throwbacks.

[Anonymous No.15658121]

>>15658116
They're protective of their national identity because they almost lost it in WW2

[Anonymous No.15658122]

>>15658101
>too stupid to innovate
>Italians
anon...

[Anonymous No.15658468]

>>15658122
there's more to Italy than just Ferrari, you retard

[Anonymous No.15658509]

>>15652740
Italina here; italians who gets mad about how people make pasta(or what they put on their pizza) also enjoy to lick uncleaned assholes.

[Anonymous No.15658547]

>>15658509
show unshaved hairy black vagina

[Anonymous No.15658554]

>>15652966
Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.

[Anonymous No.15658567]

>>15654686
The French treat cooking as an art and a science.
The italians treat it as a religion. Ie. irrationally and stupidly.

[Anonymous No.15658577]

>>15658468
Yeah, like Benneli, Franchi, Mateba...

[Anonymous No.15658598]

>>15652740
>tfw op is actually a fag

[Anonymous No.15658722]

>>15658598
You don't have to be gay to have grindr downloaded

[Anonymous No.15658775]

>>15652740
They don't want America to 'Taco Bella their cuisine from its authenticity. Next they're gonna try and deep fry certain entrées and add on a ton of cheese to appeal to the younger generation.

[Anonymous No.15658779]

>>15658775
>'Taco Bella

'Taco Bell'**

[Anonymous No.15658913]

mommy issues

[Anonymous No.15658962]

americans cant cook, they just pervert other dishes and claim to have perfected/created them

[Anonymous No.15659077]

>>15653369
Let's face it, the real orcs are Italian Americans.

[Anonymous No.15659082]

>>15658598
Hey, I use Grindr to meet trans girls.

[Anonymous No.15659087]

>>15652740
I can understand substituting a different nut for pine nuts in pesto to a degree, but they are right. Carbonara with tomatoes is basically just spaghetti now. It changes the entire dish.

[Anonymous No.15659094]

>>15652808
>vietnamese-style

"Style" is how they get away with it. It's like taking a dish and half assing it but then saying that it's fine because you weren't even trying to make it the right way, you were just making your own spin on it. Such a crock of shit.

[Anonymous No.15659299]

>>15659094
It's the culinary equivalent of jazz hands

[Anonymous No.15659320]

>>15658095
>They're traditionalists and don't like deviations.
Like every country in the world except for America.

>If you're going to change the recipe, change the name.
This.

[Anonymous No.15659332]

>>15658722
That doesnt even make sense.

[Anonymous No.15659343]

>you can't make noodles like that

[Anonymous No.15659876]

>>15652785
Pasta is not the same as noodles

CARBONARA IS FROM ITALY YOU FUCKING MORON

[Anonymous No.15661063]

>>15655444
Somalian are like 1% of the italian population
Did you choke on some boot perhaps?

[Anonymous No.15661128]

>>15652740
Historians are almost positive that carbonara only exists because American soldiers wanted bacon with their egg pasta. Until foreign ingredients and ideas were introduced, Italian food was just shitty Roman food.
>>15652767
>>15656652
There's a joke. While everyone else was racing to get into space, Italians were perfecting ice cream.

[Anonymous No.15661488]

>>15659332
see
>>15659082

[Anonymous No.15661703]

I once read an article about an italian absolutely seething about how alfredo is popular in the US and that it "ISN'T AN AUTHENTIC ITALIAN CUISINE REEEEEEEEEEEE"

Gave me many good laughs. Fuck It*lians

[Anonymous No.15661731]

>>15652905
Ironically, Cletus is a Roman name

[Anonymous No.15661733]

PARMESAN CHEESE CAN ONLY BE MADE IN ITALY. TH-THE BACTERIA HERE IS DIFFERENT! STOP MAKING PARMESAN CHEESE EVERYWHERE ELSE STOP IT NOW ITS NOT FAIR! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR YOU MAKE PARMESAN CHEESE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ITALIAN AND IT'S NOT REALLLLLLLLLLLL

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-court-says-parmesan-cheese-must-come-from-italy/a-3152168

[Anonymous No.15661740]

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE ADD TOMATOES TO CARBONARA!!!! THAT'S OUR CULTURE

[Anonymous No.15661744]

>>15652914
Based. I hope OP gets some good dick

[Anonymous No.15661754]

>>15659320
>>15658095
>>If you're going to change the recipe, change the name.

It's way easier to just call Carbonaro with tomatoes "Carbonaro with tomatoes" instead of being autistic and coming up with a new name no one will have heard of

[Anonymous No.15661758]

>>15652914
OP is literally a faggot

[Anonymous No.15661797]

>>15652914
OP is a literal homo and yet less of a faggot than Italians are.

[Anonymous No.15661807]

>>15661731
lil cletus

[Anonymous No.15661839]

>>15652905
he's kinda right though
that's why it triggers so much

[Anonymous No.15661844]

>>15661731
We wuz Romans n shieeet

[Anonymous No.15661850]

>>15661733
>>15661740
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY "DO AMERICANS REALLY" THAT'S OUR CULTURE

[Anonymous No.15661855]

>>15661850
What? You can say "do american really" if you want. It's a stupid meme but I guess it's fun if you end up triggering people with it

[Anonymous No.15661862]

Italian American here who has visited the motherland a couple of times.

It all has to do with classism. It is seen as vile to eat garlic in any form where it has discernible taste in a dish, since it gives you a terrible breath. Garlic breath is legitimately an indicator for a simpleton, a peasant, a subhuman over in Lombardy. On that note, adding additional ingredients to traditional recipes not only is sullying the divine traditions, but is also similarly a peasant radar. It betrays (in their eyes) a ravenous animal looking to fill their belly. It's also why having more than one food type on a plate (say, having a steak and broccoli together) is distasteful. I wish I were joking.

I fucking hate Italians. (particularly Lombardy niggers)

[Anonymous No.15661877]

A single woman ruined the entire /vg/ league of legends discord group.

[Anonymous No.15661880]

>>15661862
Keep eating your burgers, american.

[Anonymous No.15661885]

>>15661877
ok

[Anonymous No.15661891]

>>15661855
Just pointing out the irony. They're mocking Italians for wanting to protect their culture, but whenever someone on /ck/ questions American culture, some American posters get triggered as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15661892]

>>15661885
kek. wrong board sorry bro

[Anonymous No.15661904]

>>15661891
I'd say people get mad mostly because posting "do americans really" is stupid and adds nothing to the thread.

[Anonymous No.15661912]

>>15661880
I think I'll stick to superior French food. The true divinity in cooking.

[Anonymous No.15661922]

>>15661880
are you implying there's something wrong with burgers, faggot?

[Anonymous No.15662035]

>>15661904
Neither does seething about Italian cuisine.

[Anonymous No.15662043]

>>15662035
We're having an actual discussion about italians though, at least we were at the start. Saying "do americans really" is literally a nothing post

[Anonymous No.15662052]

>>15652785
>>15652767
>>15652740

seriously as much italians are snobs with their food, if youve actually visited the non touristy areas, they have an absolute ridiculous variety of foods and dishes from meat fish and cheese, they definitely rank top 3 in the world for reason. the problem with italian food outside of italy, is it is just trash 90% of the time. and no, italian food is not just pasta and carbs.
this is coming from someone who ranks spanish and balkan cuisine much higher than italian.

[Anonymous No.15662060]

>>15661912
god french food is awful, have you actually been to france? they have the most stodgey and dense dishes that are overcomplicated

[Anonymous No.15662068]

>>15652740
>bacon instead of whatever the fuck they normally put in carbonara
stopped reading right there. bacon is nasty in pasta the liquid smoke leaks out and makes everything taste like hotdog

[Anonymous No.15662071]

>>15662068
why are you buying bacon with liquid smoke in it, holy shit lmao

[Anonymous No.15662076]

>>15654496
This is typical European thought. Let the entire continent die.

[Anonymous No.15662245]

>>15662043
You're just seething because you're a yank.

[Anonymous No.15662247]

>>15662245
bro im drunk off steel reserve, i literally do not care right now lmao

[Anonymous No.15662267]

>>15662071
Not actual liquid smoke, moron. Bacon, in anything, winds up overpowering everything else in the dish and ruins it.

[Anonymous No.15662302]

>>15652740
I went on holiday to Venzuela and there were some Italians in my tour group. Apparently in Venezuela they like to put ketchup in their pasta, so I went ahead and figured "when in Rome.." and put some on my pasta. The Italians started freaking out saying "YOU'RE KILLING THE PASTA!!!". Like a true American I smothered that shit in ketchup and ate it right in their faces. It was good.

[Anonymous No.15662822]

>>15652740

>NNOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN CARBONERINO
>is that some mccain's freeze pizza??
>OOH GOD HELP ME ALBANIANMAN I'M GOING INNNSSAAAANNNEE

[Anonymous No.15663502]

>>15654492

[Anonymous No.15663546]

>>15658567
science implies objectivity, authenticity isn't strictly correlated with the best possible taste for an individual

[Anonymous No.15663586]

>>15658120
It's not fucking hard when your country has only existed since 1861.

[Anonymous No.15663611]

>>15663586
Retarded mutt.

[Anonymous No.15663617]

>>15652868
Mmmmmmm, nice
I like a lot of garlic in mine

[Anonymous No.15663664]

>>15652811
Actually it is American, and then Italians claimed it as their own. Same with pizza, macaroni cheese, lasagne (which is British), Alfredo, tomato sauce, etc. Tomatoes aren’t even native to Italy, they were brought over from America. Even pasta isn’t really an Italian invention. It’s all stolen.

[Anonymous No.15663740]

Pretending to get triggered by food is just a gimmick they hace, most aren't actually this autistic.

[Anonymous No.15663872]

>>15663664
>pizza, carbonara
actually italian
>lasagne
the british version is way different and nobody makes it in XXI century
>alfredo, macaroni cheese
italians don't claim these, most don't even know what "alfredo" is supposed to be
>tomatoes
anon, you know the columbian exchange happened half a millenium ago, right?

[Anonymous No.15663878]

>>15659082
non homos use tinder