/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15613850]

It's breakfast time. What do you pick to drink and/or put in your cereal?

[Anonymous No.15613853]

>>15613850
cereal is for faggots

[Anonymous No.15613857]

>>15613850
I don't eat cereal.
My breakfast is typically 2 duck eggs scrambled in a pat of butter.

[Anonymous No.15613863]

I’m confused..
Is this the game where I’m supposed to pretend that animal products are bad?
Or is it the game where I’m supposed to pretend that sciency-sounding words are scary?

[Anonymous No.15613864]

>>15613850
That's pretty impressive that oat milk has more calories than whole milk.

Also what the fuck is DHA aigal oil?

[Anonymous No.15613867]

>>15613850

oj, toast with PB or 1/2 bagel with cream cheese

[Anonymous No.15613891]

>>15613864
This is the full fat version. Decided to try it out. I think it's tasty. I don't entirely like The smaller amount of protein and the fact that it's processed.

[Anonymous No.15613895]

>>15613864
it's an omega-3 fatty acid derived from algae as opposed to fish. vegetarian friendly and easier/cheaper to farm than getting it from fish. more environmentally friendly too, but i'm assuming there are people here that will sperg out about that phrase.

[Anonymous No.15613910]

>>15613895
But we don't put fish oil in milk.

Also how does one render fat from algae?

[Anonymous No.15613915]

>>15613850
Whole milk, glass of OJ, three eggs over-easy, three slices of ham fried in Irish butter, 2 slices of toast with strawberry jam.

[Anonymous No.15613924]

>>15613910
would you like me to walk you through chemical extraction process of algal oil or are you being facetious?

also i'm assuming this brand adds it to their oat milk for nutritional value, i just had a look at my oat milk and it doesn't contain it.

[Anonymous No.15613931]

>>15613850
>carton subtly tries to get you to not read its ingredients
grim

[Anonymous No.15613937]

>>15613931
colour theory is a huge part of design and marketing. what ingredient there is causing you to worry?

[Anonymous No.15613946]

>>15613937
>if this side bores you please read no further

[Anonymous No.15613951]

>>15613946
kek didn't even notice. weird.

[Anonymous No.15613961]

>>15613924
>walk you through chemical extraction process of algal oil or are you being facetious?
Yeah how do you do it? What chemicals do you use? Is it like hexane like they use with canola?

[Anonymous No.15613981]

>>15613961
yes

[Anonymous No.15613984]

I think vegans are obnoxious faggots but the ones that consume endless amounts of far left liberal nonsense and try to get as many vegan alternatives like vegan hotdogs or vegan chicken tenders take the cake. I just hope that having them buy that fake overpriced processed crap reduces demand for the real stuff so i can get it for cheaper.

[Anonymous No.15613986]

>>15613981
gross

[Anonymous No.15614012]

>>15613986
there are alternatives but i know they use the hexane process for cattle feed. a cursory glance at some journal articles show that they've found alternatives. i'm sure if you care enough you could contact the company and find out how it's been processed.

[Anonymous No.15614016]

>>15613984
thanks for sharing your cool opinion

[Anonymous No.15614021]

>>15613986
what oil do you use for cooking? because if you don't exclusively use cold pressed x then i've got some news for you.

[Anonymous No.15614023]

>>15614012
No thanks, I raise my own livestock. I don't like the shit that's pushed onto me. Right now its poultry and eggs but pretty soon its gonna be beef and dairy, and you KNOW that shit is going to be pasture raised.

No one should be eating industrially processed shit, whether I eat them or not.

[Anonymous No.15614026]

>>15614021
I use lard, tallow, duck fat, and butter.

[Anonymous No.15614035]

>>15614023
>just live on a farm bro
can't believe you've solved food manufacturing. someone get this man a medal.

[Anonymous No.15614040]

>>15614023
so you don't drink homogenized and pasteurized milk?

[Anonymous No.15614044]

>>15614035
A homestead is not the same as a farm. The oligarchs dont want you to know this, but every man, woman, and child could inhabit a single acre of arable land. And as someone who manages only an acre right now, I can tell you it can give you A LOT of consumer freedom.

[Anonymous No.15614050]

>>15614044
hey, i'm right there with you bud, but unfortunately it isn't realistic.

i'd rather drink oat milk that factory farmed animal milk. animal alternatives are fine as long as you aren't obsessive about them (either for or against). i've been eating them for years and i'm fine.

[Anonymous No.15614051]

>>15614040
I plan to have my own cow soon so I have access to raw, grass-fed milk. I fucking love raw milk and raw cream. Fresh raw butter is to die for.

[Anonymous No.15614056]

>>15614051
so do you drink it or not

[Anonymous No.15614068]

>>15614050
Why not source high quality milk from small independent farms?
I managed to find a place when I was a city cuck in Chicago that sold raw milk with the cows rations on it. The lady at the counter showed me pics of the farm. That place was incredible.

You can say you're fine but you are still living off food you have no connection to. If you're comfortable with that, that's fine. Just remember, all industrial farming is death on a plate.

[Anonymous No.15614078]

>>15614056
Currently yes. It's better than nothing, and its definitely better than the plant shit.

[Anonymous No.15614083]

>>15614068
because it's not feasible for a lot of people my dude. not everyone lives near farmland or can afford to buy it regularly, and in places where there's no demand you're shit out of luck. do you seriously need this spelled out for you?
inb4 milk alternatives are as expensive as good quality milk
literally a lie, i buy oat milk for like 1aud per litre, same price as UHT milk.

>You can say you're fine but you are still living off food you have no connection to. If you're comfortable with that, that's fine. Just remember, all industrial farming is death on a plate.

you sound like a bit of a fag desu, if you can't understand that not everyone can afford to go buy an acre of land and set themselves up i don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.15614090]

>>15614078
>and its definitely better than the plant shit
according to what metric? do you know what the pasteurization and homogenization process entails?

[Anonymous No.15614105]

>>15614083
>calls me a fag
>uses the term "my dude"
Don't be a pissy little baby because I'm telling you the truth. All industrial farming is unpleasant.
Regenerative polyculture farming and homesteading is definitely more realistic than you think. I have a friend in Melbourne who just has a back yard but still can garden and have hens. The only people who are really fucked are city cucks who live in cucksheds. But desu cities are cesspools anyways and have always been a problem.

And why do you think this is an "everyone" thing. I'm thinking its more of a "wow only 1% of people are farmers? They have to feed 99%? Don't you think if maybe those numbers were more like 5% like how they were before the government forced them out of business in favor of factory farming and ridiculous grain subsidies, high quality food and a higher standard of livestock welfare would be more available to more people?"

But your solution is just more industrialization. The thing that got us in this mess to begin with.

[Anonymous No.15614109]

>>15614090
>do you know what the pasteurization and homogenization process entails?
Yes, and it makes milk worse and more difficult to use in a culinary sense.

[Anonymous No.15614118]

>>15614105
i'm studying agriculture and chemistry, i have a variety of works from mollison, holmgren et al on my bedside table. i'm not being pissy and i agree with you about industrial farming, but the fact is your cool plan to "just live on an acre bro" isn't fucking realistic. stop being a faggot about it.
>cities are a problem
yes, which is why we need alternatives to industrial farming, especially when it involves animals like cows which produce fuckloads of methane. so what's your solution now, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15614122]

>>15614109
still didn't answer the question of metric
>inb4 subjective bullshit

[Anonymous No.15614145]

>>15614105
also as an aside david holmgrens newest book is about retrofitting suburban areas with some processes like your friend in melbourne is a very good read and i recommend it if you enjoy reading this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.15614158]

>>15614118
Does your agriculture class talk about the methane being produced through artificial fertilizer? Or the carbon sequestration that comes from regenerative farming and pasture rotation? I mean shit, you said you have Mollison on your bedside table, he's a permaculturist, he knows about the benefits of using animals and crops together to benefit the environment.

Just live on an acre is just as realistic as just eat vegan.

[Anonymous No.15614164]

>>15614122
culinary

[Anonymous No.15614171]

i usually use coconut milk with a bit of whole milk in my protein shakes, and a splash of coconut milk after i cook my oats in water just to add some richness. i tried a splash of whole milk in oatmeal, but it was so disgustingly sweet.

i ended up buying oat milk since the store was out of unsweetened coconut but i've yet to try it.

[Anonymous No.15614178]

>>15614158
>Just live on an acre is just as realistic as just eat vegan.
you can't seriously believe this.

i don't know why you keep bringing up artificial/industrial farming as if i'm arguing for it as the golden answer. to be clear, my position is that plant alternatives on an industrial scale are better than farmed animals on an industrial scale for a variety of reasons.
i am all for polyculture etc.
the carbon sequestration of regenerative farming is still being studied, and i really want to believe it is helping but there hasn't been enough rigorous scientific study on it (i am hoping to help by going to university and doing this course and propagating knowledge via this means). we don't have to get into it now, but if you really look into what kind of carbon is being stored and the amount of it which is actually stored vs. going back into the atmosphere it's not the golden answer that some people think it is.

i would love it if everyone was able to live sustainably on a property, but the thing is some people just want to go to walmart and live in a cube and work a 9-5 and watch television, and unfortunately agriculture needs to address those people on an industrial scale.

[Anonymous No.15614186]

>>15614164
sure, you can't use it for a roux or whatever but there's usually a plant alternative answer. i really think "culinary" comes under subjective. i don't think having a cream sauce outweighs the benefits of plant milk in my subjective taste. i can easily go without milk custard etc for my entire life.

[Anonymous No.15614191]

>>15614178
not him but I can't get fucking yolked eating tofu so buying organic and freerange where i can is about as much as I'm able (willing) to do

[Anonymous No.15614200]

>>15614158
>>15614178
>Uncertain benefits: There’s limited scientific understanding of what keeps soil carbon sequestered, and, as a result, uncertainty about whether regenerative practices actually sequester additional carbon. For example, there is an active scientific debate about whether no-till, the primary practice relied upon by proponents of regenerative agriculture to generate climate benefits, actually increases soil carbon when properly measured. Studies on grazing land found that the effects of grazing on soil carbon are complex, site-specific and hard to predict, although grazing practices that increase the amount of grass growing generally sequester some carbon. Even putting aside these uncertainties, maintaining enhanced soil carbon levels is practically challenging. For example, in the United States, the vast majority of farmers who practice no-till also plow up their soils at least every few years, reversing most, if not all, of any short-term carbon storage benefit.

[Anonymous No.15614207]

>>15613891
Oat milk is in fact delicious.

[Anonymous No.15614209]

>>15614191
my protein powder is organic although i don't use plant based protein powder. i'm not into bodybuilding or whatever and just use it after my exercise routine which is mostly cardio and calisthenics. i respect your position and efforts. thanks for not being a raging cocksucker about it (which is more aimed at >>15613984 and posters like him)

[Anonymous No.15614224]

>>15614209
based moderate rational thinker anon. Too many black and white thinkers here, the world is a complex vast place and your opinions should reflect that.

[Anonymous No.15615769]

>>15614178
>some people just want to go to walmart and live in a cube and work a 9-5 and watch television

Should we really have it as an end goal to support and encourage this kind of lifestyle? Is this kind of existence sustainable long term? If you are just continuing industrial agriculture but just cutting animals out of the picture, its still unsustainable, and still an issue that needs to be addressed
There may never be enough studies on the benefits of regenerative agricultures benefits. Large scientific studies need funding, and usually the people who fund those studies aren't unbiased individuals, rather they are profit motivated industries with an agenda. Regenerative farming is a direct threat to this large industries because it can work on a massive variety of scale and allows a ton of consumer independence, with some people actually becoming so independent from supermarkets they only go a handful of times per year, and spend very little money.

It kind of boggles my mind how you have been duped into thinking cows, animals that have been around for centuries if not millenia are the issue and not shit like factories, mining, plastic production, and of course shit like cars, planes, and fucking cruise ships. Who the fuck needs cruise ships???

Also if you actually read anything I wrote, I think that MORE people should homestead, not every single man woman and child.
Only ONE PERCENT of the current population in the west farms. Less than a century ago it was 5%. Is it really unrealistic to encourage 4% of this miserable population to go back to farming? All around the so called "developed" world, cities are overcrowding and the countryside is dying.

You are studying agriculture, so what is your end goal?