/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15558879]

i want to go vegan

what are some retard proof meals for a beginner

[Anonymous No.15558880]

>>15558879
Glass of water
Cup of dirt
Mental health counselling

[Anonymous No.15558884]

>>15558879
shut up

[Anonymous No.15558885]

>>15558879
Cock

[Anonymous No.15558891]

>>15558879
You need to have the vegan idea kneaded from you.

[Anonymous No.15558898]

rice of your choice
stir fry frozen vegetables
beans or some other legume
sriracha and ground peppercorns and salt
you can add any number of things, tofu, walnuts, it's just rice and veg bro

desu this is just the retard proof meal for anything, you could add chicken etc. instead of beans and i literally eat some variation of this almost daily. veganism is so god damn autistic though, i had to spend hours putting together the exact veg/rice/etc. combo to get proper nutrients when i was a vegan.

[Anonymous No.15558902]

>>15558891
i can exist without eating animals or animal parts from farms, so I want to do that, but i never learned to cook and i have to to do this

[Anonymous No.15558904]

>>15558879
https://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2012/10/roasted-sweet-potato-black-bean-chili.html

You can cut that down very sick. Pic related.
>Start preparing and roasting the sweet potato
>While this is in the oven, chop onions, garlic and paprika
>Start roasting gently the onions and garlic in a pan with olive oil
>After a few minutes add the paprika
>Add some chopped jalapenos from a glas
>Add a can of tomatoes
>Add sugar, pepper, more chili (if wanted), cumin
>Put on low simmer til potatoes are done
>Put everything together and serve
It's fucking great.

[Anonymous No.15558906]

>>15558904
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.15558907]

>>15558879
Why not just vegetarianism anon? Why would you stop eating honey and dairy?

[Anonymous No.15558909]

>>15558906
PS: I am not even vegan and love this food

If you want to do a non-vegan chili then try this:

[Anonymous No.15558910]

>>15558902
>i can exist without eating animals or animal parts from farms
It would be very painful.

[Anonymous No.15558911]

>>15558909
>this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeuenuTuIE

Damn, i am too retarded for 4chan today :(

[Anonymous No.15558914]

>>15558906
Shit that looks nice, thanks for the recipe anon

[Anonymous No.15558915]

>>15558907
well in the case of ethical veganism, there's literally no point to vegetarianism because you are still paying for animals to be tortured and later killed brutally even if you don't eat the meat. veganism for health reasons is dumb though because actually eating a vegan (or vegetarian) diet as a lazy way to be "healthy" will soon prove to be an even greater pain the ass than just putting together a healthy normie diet.

[Anonymous No.15558916]

>>15558904
i will make this, thank you anon. this will be my first recipe, hopefully i dont fuck it up

>>15558907
bees work hard to make honey, its their honey
cows make milk for their babies

i want bees and cows to be left alone

[Anonymous No.15558917]

>>15558879
Pasta+ cabbage

[Anonymous No.15558919]

Bacon egg and cheese

[Anonymous No.15558920]

>>15558879
Lentil soup is hard to fuck up

[Anonymous No.15558924]

Indians have pretty good vegetarian food

[Anonymous No.15558931]

>>15558916
Okay ethical veganism good for you, would you eat eggs if you had your own chickens?

[Anonymous No.15558941]

>>15558931
no. i dont want a slave even if its a dumb bird. i dont like animals i want them left alone to have their own life. chickens dont lay eggs for humans to eat, wild chickens only lay a few eggs a year and we have enslaved and mutated those chickens into these retarded monstrosities that pump out hundreds of eggs, its fucked

[Anonymous No.15558949]

>>15558941
Do wild chickens exist anymore?

[Anonymous No.15558952]

>>15558941
Free range chickens live much better and are happier than wild birds. Why do you want th bird bros to suffer in the woods, getting slaughtered by predators? Don't you prefer the comforts of home?

[Anonymous No.15558960]

>>15558915
You can get ethically sourced eggs very easily, chickens always lay eggs, there is no moral argument against eating eggs like there is dairy

[Anonymous No.15558964]

>>15558949
Yes, the exact same wild chickens that exist today are the ancestors of domesticated chickens. They live just fine without humans at all

>>15558952
free range chickens live in cramped sheds with hundreds of other chickens, they just get a tiny fenced in outside area to walk in occasionally. the male chicks literally get tossed into a meat grinde rminutes after being born and the female chicks have their beaks ripped off by a machine so that they don't peck each other to death from the stress of their hellish existence

i dont give a fuck if chickens die in the woods to predators. its not my place to go in the woods and kill an animal or to capture and enslave an animal for their 'protection'. they can live their own life and have their own existence doing whatever they want

[Anonymous No.15558976]

>>15558941
Well you have some convictions, that's really nice to see, sometimes I do black beans burgers i think it's retard proof
>Cook black beans on low heat till tender (5hours or medium heat for 2hours) let them cool down, keep some water
>Chop some onions (green,white, purple the one you like) into small pieces
>Mince some garlic (i usually use two cloves)
>Grate a carrot
>Mince bellpepper
>Saute in a pan all the veggies spice up let it cool down
>Mash the beans as you like put some flour, salt, add the sauted veggies mix and make the burgers
>Heat them in a pan 2/3 minutes each side
I tend to add mushrooms but you can add what ever vegetable you want really and some autist here doesn't like shrooms

[Anonymous No.15558978]

>>15558964
He means you get a coop and raise them yourself. You would not do those things to your chickens and you'd be ensuring a good life to the chickens that you rescued.

[Anonymous No.15558982]

>>15558880
>Cup of dirt

I'm afraid even that cup of dirt contains millions, if not billions, of tiny microorganisms. They are living too!

[Anonymous No.15558996]

>>15558976
i will put this in my new recipes notepad document
thank you friend

also i love mushrooms so hooray

>>15558978
>good life
>can only exist in the space i allow it to exist in
>can only eat what i allow to eat
>can only breed and fuck if i allow it
>completely reliant on me in every way

how is that a good life? that sounds like a horrific nightmare. i dont want to live in a shed in someone's backyard and have to eat seeds off the ground and them scoop my sex waste or some shit every day so they can cook with it. why would i want to subject birds to that? because eggs taste good? i'm sure raping people feels good but i dont do that because i dont impose myself on others just because of how it feels. its fucked

[Anonymous No.15559011]

>>15558996
One of these days you're gonna have to accept the responsibility that comes with being an apex predator.

[Anonymous No.15559017]

>>15558996
>can only exist in the space i allow it to exist in
>can only eat what i allow to eat
>can only breed and fuck if i allow it
>completely reliant on me in every way
So like the average person dependent on the government?

[Anonymous No.15559018]

>>15559011
anon thats literally why i want to go vegan. unlike all of the countless millions of retarded animals on this planet, i am the one species intelligent enough to not have to kill other animals for food, it feels like thats my responsibility

[Anonymous No.15559035]

>>15558996
>has a nice comfy yard and chicken mansion
>doesn't have to worry about starvation
>still gets to eat bugs and worms out of the ground whenever for a snack
>get to fuck all the time instead of maybe once in the spring if I'm lucky
>have a human that keeps me warm, cares for me when I'm sick, and protects me from predators
Ultimate comfort. You should look into rasing chickens.

[Anonymous No.15559038]

>>15559018
>the one species intelligent enough to not have to kill other animals for food
You're as intelligent as algae

[Anonymous No.15559042]

>>15559038
algae isn't an animal

[Anonymous No.15559044]

>>15559018

>i am the one species intelligent enough to not have to kill other animals for food, it feels like thats my responsibility

If you don't have the balls to kill what you eat, you shouldn't be eating it. Basically pic related's reasoning for being a vegetarian.

Enjoy your meme diet that's only possible in a 1st world bourgeois society tho.

[Anonymous No.15559048]

>>15559044
>bourgeois
fuck of commie

[Anonymous No.15559050]

>>15559044

Forgot Uncle Addy

[Anonymous No.15559052]

>>15559044
>Enjoy your meme diet that's only possible in a 1st world bourgeois society tho

rice, beans, potatoes etc are the cheapest foods
meat, cheese, and milk are expensive luxuries

what are you smoking anon

[Anonymous No.15559055]

>>15559048

>accurately describing classes and their values (or lack thereof) means I'm a commie

Fuck off liberal

[Anonymous No.15559064]

>>15559050
>comparing people that eat a healthy diet to Adolf Hitler
Kek. Why do vegans all look like they are stuck in a labor camp?

[Anonymous No.15559065]

>>15559044
>If you don't have the balls to kill what you eat, you shouldn't be eating it. Basically pic related's reasoning for being a vegetarian.
That's a reasonable proposition, you'd be surprised how many men would be perfectly happy to kill their own food though, if vegans passed a law saying I needed to personally kill all the animals I eat I would be happy to do so, of course I'd like a professional butcher to prepare the meat for me

[Anonymous No.15559084]

>>15559044
>Enjoy your meme diet that's only possible in a 1st world bourgeois society tho.

just because modern poor people are retarded and buy microwaved corn syrup meals doesn't mean that's actually the cheapest diet. a whole foods vegan diet is literally one of the cheapest possible, what do you think plebs were mostly eating before meat became consoomed daily in the early 20th century (and even then not for wide swaths of the global population)?

before the industrial revolution most people ate de facto vegan diets for like half the year unless they had regular access to dairy

[Anonymous No.15559087]

>>15559055
Liberals go to Lubyanka, Comrade. The Cheka will make quick work of it.

[Anonymous No.15559090]

>>15559052

You can't maintain the minerals and vitamins needed without supplements in a vegan diet.

Have a look at the carbohydrate dependent peasants of the 19th century to see what it does to the body.

[Anonymous No.15559098]

>>15559017
>that sounds like a horrific nightmare.

[Anonymous No.15559103]

>>15559090
so ill take a supplement so what

>take pill
or
>exploit and kill animal slaves

is this like some kind of retard version of the trolley problem

[Anonymous No.15559106]

>>15559052
I can eat a whole moose for the price of 1 can of beans

[Anonymous No.15559119]

chickpeas, spinach, potatoes, rice + veggies, oatmeal

so easy, you cannot fuck that up

[Anonymous No.15559120]

>>15559084

>before the industrial revolution most people ate de facto vegan diets for like half the year unless they had regular access to dairy

Yeah, and they were peasants too that were physically diminutive compared to their noble betters.

The luxury of protein is what allowed a nobleman the physical strength to lug armor around in battle. Peasants couldn't just go and kill their game either, all of the wild game belonged to the King and nobles.

[Anonymous No.15559125]

>>15559103
Realistically, aren't you just lowering the cost of meat for the rest of us? They're still gonna rase just as many regardless of your diet. I appreciate the vegan discount I got on ribeye last week. Thanks, Anon.

[Anonymous No.15559147]

>>15559120
that is partially true, i'm not going to bother arguing the autistic nuances. but my point was it's not some faggy first worlder trend, even just eating vegan for half a week and adding simple chicken thighs and butter and milk etc. occasionally is cheaper and healthier than what your beloved poors eat, the real problem is a failure of the education system/government/generational ignorance creating a knowledge gap about nutrition so poor people think mcdonald's and microwaved dinners makes sense. eating fucking beans and rice and leaves isn't bourgeois

[Anonymous No.15559149]

>>15559098
Why should chickens have a better life than human beings?

[Anonymous No.15559155]

Just go eat a bag of dry beans you retarded faggot lmao

[Anonymous No.15559161]

>>15559017
chickens are retarded animals bro, i'm pretty sure they're not going to have an existential crisis if they're stuck running around the yard and pecking seed plus it's a hell of a lot better than starving and getting torn apart and eaten alive in the wild. battery farms are next level evil, but the chicken's aren't going to develop clinical depression on uncle john's homestead.

[Anonymous No.15559177]

>>15559064
Well hitler was vegetarian wasn't he? Or at least pushed a lot of environmental laws so maybe he is comparing himself with adolf?

[Anonymous No.15559184]

>>15559119
Mostly this OP please don't be a """"vegan"""" who needs his food to taste like animals, vegetables are tasty on its own

[Anonymous No.15559197]

>>15559147

It's not partially true, it's completely true. The ruling classes have always utilized diet as a method of control.

>even just eating vegan for half a week and adding simple chicken thighs and butter and milk etc.

You reading this back to yourself bro? That's not a vegan diet.

>occasionally is cheaper and healthier than what your beloved poors eat, the real problem is a failure of the education system/government/generational ignorance creating a knowledge gap about nutrition so poor people think mcdonald's and microwaved dinners makes sense.

That knowledge gap is intentional, so the corporations can make money off of people's stupidity, feed them shit and destroy the family unit by eliminating simple cooking and sit down meals. This has all correlated with the rise of obesity.

>eating fucking beans and rice and leaves isn't bourgeois

It is if it's a meme response to the aforementioned conspiracy. Kinda like electric cars are the meme response to the pollution of the combustion engine, all done in a bid to keep a failing system from going under.

Bourgeois 4 lyfe

[Anonymous No.15559200]

>>15559177
Hitler was both and was the pioneer of animal rights in the west

[Anonymous No.15559204]

>>15558879
A bullet.

[Anonymous No.15559207]

>>15559200

He also did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.15559212]

>>15558879
Why stop at vegan, just buy a juice weasel. Take the middle man out.

[Anonymous No.15559219]

>>15558996
what if theres no fence
theres farms in Spain that just provide good land for geese, sometimes they leave and sometimes wild ones come in and stick around
it produces some incredible goose liver (not legally foie gras)
you could use these for spare eggs or do the same thing with chickens or other fowl

[Anonymous No.15559236]

>>15559103
are those supplements cruelty free?
for example Cods are slaughtered for their livers to make omega 3 oil

[Anonymous No.15559253]

why are people in this thread so desperate to poke any hole they can in op's desire to not eat animals

like what is the point

[Anonymous No.15559256]

>>15559197
it's partially true because while these diets were often trash, you fell for the meme that it literally turned everyone into manlet skeltals which is false.

>You reading this back to yourself bro? That's not a vegan diet.

the point was it's not bougie to eat even *mostly* a de facto vegan diet, it's not a "meme response" to anything. poor people could literally just eat a 90% vegan diet but with a few animal proteins right now but they don't because they're dumb. have sex.

[Anonymous No.15559264]

>>15559207
The only thing he did wrong was lose :(

[Anonymous No.15559276]

>>15559219
It wouldn't matter, because OP is projecting his existential crisis onto birds. He doesn't really care about the wellbeing of animals, he just can't cope with living like one.

[Anonymous No.15559283]

>>15559253
Because he's a preachy vegan. If you start demonizing everyone that doesn't act like you, don't be surprised if you get ganged up on.

[Anonymous No.15559295]

>>15559283
>noooooooo you can't disagree with me that's preaching

[Anonymous No.15559302]

>>15559256
They didn't get extremely malnourished BECAUSE they ate animals, not despite of the fact. You should learn more about farming and nutrition before offiring an opinion, because right now, yours is uselessly ignorant.

[Anonymous No.15559311]

>>15559295
>demonstrates a lack of nutritional understanding
>demonstrates a lack of agricultural understanding
>expects to be taken seriously

[Anonymous No.15559321]

>>15559302
>>15559311

i didn't say they did, you can't even read. keep going into threads you don't like a sperging out buddy, i'm sure you'll own enough people online eventually.

[Anonymous No.15559325]

>>15559321
(You)

[Anonymous No.15559328]

>>15558879
Chop onions, bell peppers, carrots and broccoli. Saute them together with a bit of tumeric, black pepper combo or soy sauce with vinegar. No need to use oil in cooking if you don't want to.
This "sauce" can be eaten with rice and lentils and stored for a long period of time. What's more - it is very easy to switch up veggies for variety.

[Anonymous No.15559337]

>>15559328
Mixing in chickpeas and/or tofu is also a great idea

[Anonymous No.15559356]

1 pound of broccoli has 13 grams of protein.
1 pound of peanuts has 118 grams of protein.
Leafy greens are very healthy for you but make sure you're eating the right foods to hit your macronutrient requirements.

[Anonymous No.15559435]

>>15558916
based.