/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15548428]

>Makes Italians Seethe and lose their minds
What is it about the humble and simple NY slice that makes them act this way? Why cant they accept America improved their 19th century cheese bread recipe and made it one of the most popular to international cousine.

[Anonymous No.15548443]

>>15548428
>Literally every "italian" cuisine use tomato as a key ingredient
>Tomatoes didn't exist until they were discovered in the Americas

Their cuisine is inherently stolen from the new world. If it wasn't for america italians would be eating dirt.

[Anonymous No.15548485]

>>15548443
>"Genomic data have revealed the convoluted path of tomato domestication, which started 80,000 years ago in Ecuador and Peru -- to be finished only 7,000 years ago in Mexico," says Gerald Schoenknecht, a program director in NSF's Division of Integrative Organismal Systems.

So North America played no role.

[Anonymous No.15548487]

>>15548428
>>15548443
Meds, now.

[Anonymous No.15548495]

>>15548485
>"Americas"
>"New world"

Reading comprehension. Try it.

[Anonymous No.15548508]

>>15548495
>If it wasn't for america

[Anonymous No.15548525]

>>15548485

Mexico is in North America, gringo.

[Anonymous No.15548546]

>>15548525
It's in Middle America not Northern America.

[Anonymous No.15548555]

>>15548508
You do know that america means all of the americas right? Where did I say the USA?

[Anonymous No.15548560]

>>15548555
America = USA

[Anonymous No.15548571]

>>15548546
Wrong again, keep making shit up to cope though.
>>15548428
All the good Italians either fled to the Western hemisphere or died in the wars, just like with Germans.

[Anonymous No.15548591]

>>15548546
Mexico is literally in north america retard.

[Anonymous No.15548600]

>>15548591
So should'nt have a problem with the ongoing North American invasion from Mexico.

Protip: this years census will be a fucking riot.

[Anonymous No.15548612]

>>15548600
Why would I? I don't live in Texas or california. I give precisely zero fucks about them. Those states want to let them in? Have at it.

[Anonymous No.15548619]

Friendly reminder

[Anonymous No.15548620]

>>15548571
>Wrong again, keep making shit up to cope though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_America_(Americas)

Read it and weep, pseud.

[Anonymous No.15548625]

>>15548560

Gb2reddit retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.15548633]

>>15548620
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

"A country in the southern part of north america"
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.15548635]

>>15548612
Desperate cope. As if those brown, Spanish speaking North Americans only went to or stayed in TX and CA lel.

[Anonymous No.15548639]

>>15548635
I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Literally no non whites within a 200 mile radius of me. So, yeah, I don't fucking care.

[Anonymous No.15548680]

Italian cuisine is only the way it is because they were too poor to use proper ingredients
>but but if you use a decent amount of cheese or put any toppings on it it's not real pizza
Shut up fuck anyone who has a superiority complex about "real Italian food"

[Anonymous No.15548739]

>>15548625
>>15548633
You lost, Pablo. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.15548749]

>>15548739
>He doesn't know what a continent is

Why don't you find the continent of central america idiot? Oh, it doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.15548753]

>>15548428
>pizza being Italy's pride and joy
Having Italian neighbors for some time, I've learned they honor pasta above pizza. It's so valued, they never shared any of their homemade pasta with me!

[Anonymous No.15548754]

>>15548428
americhads...
i kneel

[Anonymous No.15548756]

>>15548619
pizza hut is shit tier Aramark plebfeed.

[Anonymous No.15548763]

>>15548749
You already got btfo earlier in the thread when actual proof was posted. Sucks to be you.

[Anonymous No.15548781]

>>15548443
>they stole plants!
You are mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.15548807]

>>15548428
A literal slice of grease, literally.

[Anonymous No.15548999]

>>15548428
>"NY's World Famous Pizza"
>It's on every NY pizza place sign
>the pizza isn't even good

[Anonymous No.15549071]

>>15548428
I've never seen this, do you have any source or examples?
>>15548680
t.seething American being insecure about his cuisine.

[Anonymous No.15549109]

>>15548999
The signage people charge per letter and the storefronts are small, so they had to cut off the "in" from "infamous".

[Anonymous No.15549117]

>>15548639
Finnish-Americans aren't white, they are slant eyed orientals

[Anonymous No.15549135]

>>15549117
They migrated to Finland from the Taymyr Peninsula in the early Iron Age.

[Anonymous No.15549149]

>>15548485
>"Genomic data have revealed the convoluted path of human evolution, which started 800,000 years ago in the Ocean -- to be finished only 7,000 years ago in Mesopotamia,"
>therefore Africa has nothing to do with human evolution

[Anonymous No.15549160]

>>15548619
>1 million dollar pizza
Are you that bitcoin tard?

[Anonymous No.15549604]

>>15548508
>>If it wasn't for america

[Anonymous No.15549710]

>>15548781
>they stole pizza!
Ital*ans are mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.15549711]

>>15548443
At least they invented pasta

[Anonymous No.15549717]

>>15549710
They did steal Pizza though. How the fuck can anyone deny this?

[Anonymous No.15549738]

>>15549717
Pizza was brought to America, just like tomatoes were brought to Italy.
Going by your logic Italians stole tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.15549741]

>>15548443
>Literally every "italian" cuisine use tomato as a key ingredient
That's literally a lie and proves your ignorance on the topic.

[Anonymous No.15549746]

>>15549741
Pesto uses green tomatoes. Which we improved by inventing fried green tomatoes, btw.

[Anonymous No.15549749]

>>15549741
Name seventeen.

[Anonymous No.15549762]

>>15549738
I am not him. Learn to distinguish between different posters, newfag.

And if tomatoes count as stealing, then "American" Pizza is doubly stolen since they use tomato sauce as well.

>>15549741
Indeed. Pesto genovese, vitello tonato, risotto al tartuffo, bistecca fiorentina and so many other classic Italian dishes come to mind.

[Anonymous No.15549788]

>>15549749
arrosticini
trofie con pesto alla genovese
polenta concia
risotto alla milanese
bagna cauda
olive ascolane
panzanella
cannoli
tiramisù
focaccia
farinata di ceci
brasato al barolo
panna cotta
panettone
piadina romagnola
ribollita
vitello tonnato
any kind of pasta sauce without tomatoes
you don't know anything about Italian food.

[Anonymous No.15549793]

>>15549788
Incel

[Anonymous No.15549796]

>>15549788
lie, tomato cannolis are my favorite

[Anonymous No.15549810]

>>15548485
Mexico is North American

[Anonymous No.15549815]

>>15549109
LOL

[Anonymous No.15549821]

>>15549793

[Anonymous No.15549825]

>>15549788
based mobster

[Anonymous No.15549826]

>>15548600
Vast majority of illegals are from Central American shitholes now.

[Anonymous No.15549830]

>>15549749
I have already named 4 >>15549762

5 carpaccio
6 arancini
7 abbachio alla romana
8 peperonata
9 cacio e pepe
10 carabaccia
11 arrosticini
12 cotoletta alla milanese
13 vitello al marsala
14 involtini con ricotta
15 melanzane alla menta
16 fettucine alla papalina
17 gnocchi al gorgonzola

Stay clueless, mutt.

[Anonymous No.15549869]

>>15549830
>Gobbling the bait

[Anonymous No.15549881]

>>15549869
How do you know that was bait? Often, Americans literally are this dumb.

[Anonymous No.15549885]

>>15548619
>left is just a bunch of cheese and tomato sauce on bread
I hope that's not what actual Italian pizza looks like. Where's the meat and veggies?

[Anonymous No.15549898]

>>15549749
1. white pizza
2. bbq pizza
3. olive oil pizza
4. garlic puree pizza
5. sweet chili sauce pizza
6. pesto pizza
7. curry pizza
8. ranch pizza
9. tapenade pizza
10. squash pizza
11. desert pizza
12. gremolata pizza
13. hummus pizza
14. refried beans pizza
15. butter pizza
16. fondue pizza
17. a spicy a meatball

[Anonymous No.15549901]

>>15549885
There are many different Pizza styles in Italy. As for your question: go to Sicily for ex.

[Anonymous No.15549909]

>>15549881
Because I'm the one that set it.

[Anonymous No.15549916]

>>15549909
Nicely done but my point still remains.

[Anonymous No.15549948]

>>15548560
>USA education

[Anonymous No.15549966]

>>15549826
They're North Americans™ by association, no biggie.

[Anonymous No.15549968]

Italians don’t seethe over NY pizza, we seethe over people perverting carbonara

[Anonymous No.15549992]

>>15549810
Mexico is part of Middle America, not Northern America.

[Anonymous No.15550016]

>>15549992
Psst, Amerisharts are trying to whitewash Mexicans (and all Latinos really) , now that they're taking over. Its their coping strategy for the majority-minority future.

[Anonymous No.15550097]

>>15548600
>this years census
The census only happens every 10 years and it was already done in 2019.

[Anonymous No.15550149]

>>15549992
And which continent is middle America located in?

[Anonymous No.15550194]

>>15548753
Naples is the only place in Italy that gives 2 fucks about pizza as part of their "heritage", and they're a bunch of literal fucking criminal savages.

[Anonymous No.15550412]

[Anonymous No.15550447]

>>15548485
reading is hard

[Anonymous No.15550454]

>>15548560
..... i hope you're memeing

[Anonymous No.15550466]

>>15549749
I tried to list dish and don't count variations and "product" like cheese and charcuterie

> sweets
Cannoli
tiramisu
sfogliatella
panettone
pandoro
amaretto
panna cotta

> everything else
pesto
cacio e pepe
carbonara
seafood linguine
polenta
risotto
bagnacauda
farinata
pasta with legumes
ribollita
genovese

[Anonymous No.15550589]

[Laughs in Chicago]

[Anonymous No.15550625]

>>15550589
It's funny because "chicago" in italian it reads exactly like "I shit on (it)"

[Anonymous No.15550644]

>>15550625
describes the chicago style perfectly

[Anonymous No.15551112]

>>15550625

[Anonymous No.15552479]

>>15550097
It will be published this year though due to covid.

[Anonymous No.15554200]

>>15548807
greasy pizza is kino

>>15549746
based

>>15549830
my italian grandfather cooked lots of good food for me growing up and I love authentic italian but you're seething way too hard buddy

>>15549898
BASED

>>15549948
USA college is the best in the world, seethe and cope third world shitskin. America=USA

>>15550589
chicago thin crust delivery is kino

>>15550644
seethe and cope incel

[Anonymous No.15554238]

>>15549898
+1 internets to u for this quality post, anon

[Anonymous No.15554261]

>>15548428
Tell my what is "NY" about that generic slice of pizza.

[bruce No.15554266]

>>15548428
I don't think italians think about american pizza too much just like we don't think about italian pizza. who gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.15554731]

>>15548443
Pleb

[Anonymous No.15555535]

>>15554200
>USA college is the best in the world,
LEL, American education is an inside joke in any good european university
I went to a internetional exchange at MIT for a brief period of time and boy, the average level was embarassing low.
Every other student who did the same experience confirmed that

[Anonymous No.15555567]

>>15555535
>a internetional
>embarassing low
If you're going to try and shit-talk other people's education, the least that you can do is get your grammar right.

[Anonymous No.15555581]

>>15555535
I don't believe for a second that someone who can't even spell "international" correctly was an exchange student at MIT, cool story bro.

[Anonymous No.15555601]

>>15549830
>cotoletta alla milanese

God, I bet I can eat that whole thing
Saw a video on those cuts.

[Anonymous No.15555607]

>>15555535
this anon's right. look at all the innovation coming out of europe.

[Anonymous No.15555649]

>>15555567
> get your grammar right.
I get "my" grammar right, I don't get yours righ.But I don't need that as soon as I can understand/make other people understand
Consider lot of professors at MIT are not native speaker

What other languages do you know?

>>15555581
That was a typo. I still write better than the average american, which is rich.

> cool story bro.
You don't need to believe me, ask anybody who did an international exchange at MIT.
The average level was considered bottom level here, I shit you not.
Any renowed european university is 10 times harder than the buffoon unis in murica

>>15555607
There are a lot desu. But USA (in particular "top-level" uni) have more funds, but they seriously lacks good brainpower

[Anonymous No.15555664]

>>15549793
lol so fucking embarrassing

[Anonymous No.15555674]

>>15555649
I was being sarcastic. China (upperclass only) > USA > S. Korea > Japan > Russia (upperclass only) > Germany > rest of Europe > everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.15555680]

>>15555649
>Still getting basic grammar wrong
Honestly embarrassing, nobody's going to believe that you were an exchange student at MIT dude. I've had professors at my less-than-stellar university that were non-native speakers but still spoke flawless English, you being ESL isn't an excuse for poor grammar. Neither is "but they still understand me", that's a lazy-ass way to treat a language.

[Anonymous No.15555689]

>>15555649
>I still write better than the average american,
You really don't, your posts have worse wording than basically any other in this thread

[Anonymous No.15555690]

>>15555680
There were plenty of poos and spaniards in my uni that spoke horrible English but were very smart. Also, all three of your sentences here are run-on sentences.

[Anonymous No.15555705]

>>15555690
Only the second sentence would really count as a run-on sentence, the other two are fine even if the first is informal.

[Anonymous No.15555713]

checking
>>15555555

[Anonymous No.15555722]

>>15555674
> I was being sarcastic
You were wrong, then.

>>15555680
> I've had professors at my less-than-stellar university that were non-native speakers but still spoke flawless English
Then you went to shit university.

> Neither is "but they still understand me", that's a lazy-ass way to treat a language.
it's called standardization of the field. The scientific english is a small subset of english. I need my math to be right, not your aboriginal languange

[Anonymous No.15555743]

>>15548428
I don't understand. I'm Italian and I find those pizzas quite mouthwatering, very similar to pizza as it's done here in the north. Please always remember that in any given population AT LEAST half of them are retards, and they are always very vocal. It may take different forms, but it's rarely significant of how a population works as a whole.

[Anonymous No.15555747]

>>15555690
>>15555705

Fags this is 4chan nice freshman "ashchulully" nobody gives a shit furthermore you are retarded for putting effort in to an argument with some incel you will never actually meet or associate with beyond shitposting on /ck/ do boomers really?

There's your fuckin run on sentence

[Anonymous No.15555749]

>>15555680
Also since I aced all my "exam" pretty easily, I assume I speak a more than understandable english

> nobody's going to believe that you were an exchange student at MIT dude
Again, you could ask anybody else.

[Anonymous No.15555754]

>>15555722
He was saying that the professors spoke better Wnglish than you DESPITE going to a shit university, fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.15555755]

>>15555722
>Then you went to shit university.
First off, it's "a university, and second off I didn't deny it. I said that they spoke flawless English, unlike your ESL ass.

[Anonymous No.15555762]

>>15555754
> Wnglish

>>15555755
> I said that they spoke flawless English, unlike your ESL ass.
That's how you spot a shit univerisity

[Anonymous No.15555771]

>>15555762
>It's actually better for professors to speak worse English
Alright I'm done here, >>15555747 is right and you're a huge faggot.

[Anonymous No.15555773]

>>15548639
First off, there's probably practically nobody at all within 200 miles of you, of any ethnicity at all.
Anyways: Tech and NMU have small but nonzero amounts of African-Americans and tons of Indian and other Asian students. You are most likely within 200 miles of one of Houghton, Marquette, or (on the east side) maybe Traverse City.
Also, the tax money the UP relies on to exist comes from downstate, where agriculture is one of our biggest industries. Who do you think, for the most part, is picking the fields? Without seasonal labor, many of whom are undocumented, MI couldn't exist in its current state.
tl;dr fuck your weird isolation narrative

[Anonymous No.15555779]

>>15555762
Lmao what the fuck kind of backwards ass logic is that? Me am speak English like this now, prove big brain.

[Anonymous No.15555786]

>>15555762
>That's how you spot a shit univerisity

[Anonymous No.15555794]

>>15555762
Do Europeans really think that speaking a language worse is a sign of better education? Do they really?

[Anonymous No.15555802]

>>15555771
>>15555779
>>15555786
>It's actually better for professors to speak worse English
It's really a good sign, if it's a STEM university

[Anonymous No.15555806]

>>15555794
speaking worse english is a good predictor

[Anonymous No.15555807]

>>15548619
kek what - Italian pizza isn't expensive

[Anonymous No.15555970]

>>15555705
Incorrect.

[Anonymous No.15556017]

>Pizza thread
>street shitters coping that their stem "careers" are becoming rapidly obsolete due to automation

Go back to /g/

[Anonymous No.15556358]

>>15548428
Common opinion of someone whose never tried woodfired bufala pizza napoli style

[Anonymous No.15556470]

>>15549788
>>15549830
The fact that you go into an autistic meltdown every time this is brought up is why these threads keep getting made. You are being had.

[Anonymous No.15556501]

>>15549711
And most of the wheat for their pasta is grown in the US.

[Anonymous No.15556583]

>>15548560
Based. All the spics seething at you like always.

[Anonymous No.15556615]

>>15556358
It's soggy, bland shit.

[Anonymous No.15556935]

>>15556615
Based corona poster

[Anonymous No.15558148]

>>15548428
I'm a born and raised italian nationalist and even the most diehard elitist Italians give no fucks about how pizza or pasta is made aside from instagram memeshit that looks pretty but tastes awful
Amerilards just think they're so special when they're nigger HQ and have the same shit as everywhere else except more estrogen included

[Anonymous No.15558158]

>>15549711
They got the idea for pasta from Asia, anon

[Anonymous No.15558170]

>>15554731
>Ancient rome is the same as african car stealing modern italy

[Anonymous No.15558241]

>>15550466
>tiramisu
That's Japanese.

[Anonymous No.15558432]

>>15555680
Your grammar is pretty poor, too.

[Anonymous No.15558445]

>>15558241
>That's Japanese.

[Anonymous No.15559244]

>>15558158
>>15558170
>>15558241
>another thread with amerimongoloids trying to steal from Italy and give it to their pet minorities
will you ever stop this shit?

[Anonymous No.15559268]

>>15548428
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.15559335]

>>15548546
I didn't know "Middle America" was a continent. Dumb wop

[Anonymous No.15559340]

>>15549160
Erm actually that says $100,000 anon. Sorry to own you like this but it had to be done

[Anonymous No.15559351]

>>15549788
LEAV DUH GUN, TAYK DUH CANNOLI

[Anonymous No.15559365]

>>15548428
>improved their 19th century cheese bread recipe
Sure...... dumb USAians.

[Anonymous No.15559386]

>>15556470
>disproving me everytime makes you the retard
facts dont care about your feelings, you cute chubby man

[Anonymous No.15559798]

>>15548428
Who knew that the same people who invented opera could also be incredibly loud and dramatic?

[Anonymous No.15560090]

>>15555807
Holy shit this. There are pizza shops in my downtown area with thin, burnt, and hard bubbly crust that can easily be $25+ dollars for one "large" pie.