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You do wear your mask in the drive thru right?

>> No.15504148

>>15504144
if the person working there who hands you your stuff is wearing a mask, theres no reason for you to wear one yourself.

>> No.15504149

At the window, sure, as a courtesy.

>> No.15504454

>>15504149
they don't give a fuck dude, they might even think you're a weenie

>> No.15504464

>>15504144
No because there's only single digit cases here and they're already wearing one.

>> No.15504465

>>15504144
He'll yeah

>>15504454
nah they give a fuck

>> No.15504472

>>15504144
Is that a confederate flag mask? Based

>> No.15504480

>>15504144
lol no. i bet you're the type of person that drives around in the car while alone with one on too.

>> No.15504526

I do so out of politeness. It's not a terrible burden and I'd hate to get these fine folks sick. I hope you wear one, OP. :)

>> No.15504529

No. I forget, and the person doesn’t say anything. Everyone moves on with their life because it doesn’t fucking matter.

>> No.15504534

nope, I've been exposed many times too and just don't get it
I even went and did jiujitsu for 2 hours with 2 people that got sick and tested positive a day or two later and I didn't get sick

I'm basically probably immune. Sucks to suck that you worry so much about a cold

>> No.15504537

>>15504144
Shortly after the lockdowns started last year I wore my mask through a jack in the box drive through. All my stuff was made fresh and she forgot to charge me.

I live in a super conservative part of the country and I know mask policy is not enforced, I wouldn’t be surprised if I was the only one in town who wears a mask in the drive through.

I’m not saying the fresh and free food were related to my mask, but I’m nit saying they weren’t.

>> No.15504538

>>15504529
Correct take

>> No.15504541
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>>15504537
> He thinks they give him free food for using a cloth on his mouth
Sure buddy sure they did, thank you for saving the world here is your burger

>> No.15504543

>>15504537
I'd rather pay double for my food than be a cuck.

>> No.15504736

>>15504144
No everyone is a fucking faggot with this virus my whole family including my fucking 92 year old grandma got covid like 2 months ago and we're fine no one went to the hospital it was a fucking headache for a few days and the sniffles. People really are pussies these days my grandmas all happy now that she feels better bragging about how shes got "good genes", basically just get it and get over it and your good stop being scared pussies.

>> No.15504743

>>15504144
I wear a mask everywhere because I don't want people to see my face.

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>>15504144
I wear a plague doctors mask instead of a mask that prevents sickness. Why? Because fuck you.

>> No.15504760

>>15504144
I don't go to the drive through.

>> No.15504765

>>15504144
Nope, and I just got starbucks without a mask and was thinking about this because the chick gave me a dirty look. But, fuck her.

>> No.15504766

>>15504144
yes.

>> No.15504771

>>15504755
You wearing that mask makes you a fag. Not cool or hip just a Faggot nigger

>> No.15504782

>>15504534
Same here. I worked very closely with someone who tested positive, like within inches for weeks before. Still tested negative. Still haven't had a fever. Still haven't had any real symptoms. I caught a mild cough this year and tested negative. Nobody else that worked with her tested positive either. I think it's something to do with blood type maybe, or we've just not been pussies and have become immune from so many exposures. I basically don't even wash my hands any more than I would pre pandemic or do anything to avoid exposure except put a mask on when I'm forced to.

>> No.15504784

no, im not a faggot

>> No.15504791

>>15504541
>>15504543
Whoa, you guys shouldn’t be running with all that edge

>> No.15504799

You know what I was thinking about yesterday.. Everyone in my church including the guy who has been in and out of the hospital for years from a chronic illness, elderly folks, morbidly obese take our masks off during service.. Except this one young hipster couple in their 20s in perfect shape. Maybe they have some kind of underlying illness. I dunno. But it's strange why they would even show up in person when they could watch online if they are going to wear masks the whole time. They even put a mask on their toddler.

>> No.15504801

>>15504782
I’m convinced this whole “wear the mask wash your hands 100 times a day avoid contact with the outside world” is actually a ploy to degrade the masses immune systems so that the people can’t fight off the real killer once (((they))) release it

>> No.15504807

>>15504801
That's because you suffer from paranoid delusions.

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>>15504472
At first glance, that's what I saw too.
Great minds think alike.

>> No.15504811

>>15504799
Masks will stop *their* snot/saliva droplets from spreading. If somebody else's droplets reach their masks, you will inhale them.

>> No.15504812

>>15504799
my mask protects you
your mask protects me
and going to church wastes an hour of your life every week that you’ll never get back

>> No.15504813

Uhh sweetie there's a four mask minimum now

>> No.15504818

>>15504807
Perhaps. Either way, my immune system is healthy and strong.

>> No.15504819

>>15504811
*they will inhale them

>> No.15504822

>>15504812
Yeah what a waste of time, an hour a week, when you could be playing overwatch and beating off.

>> No.15504826
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>>15504812
>my mask protects you
>your mask protects me
>and going to church wastes an hour of your life every week that you’ll never get back

>> No.15504827

The fact of the matter is is that “the mask” is purely symbolic, and the people who are the most concerned with wearing it and whose wearing it and how are actually more concerned with the symbolism than anything else.

>> No.15504828

>>15504822
>Yeah what a waste of time, an hour a week, when you could be playing overwatch and beating off.
Yes?

>> No.15504834

>>15504822
yeah, or not believing in shit that doesn’t exist too

>> No.15504838

Nope don’t wear a mask anywhere really only been asked to leave a few places and I live in a cucked state

>> No.15504840

>>15504791
>not buying your fanfiction is being edgy

>> No.15504845

>>15504834
Imagine thinking the only purpose of religion is to believe in god.

>> No.15504848

>>15504845
The only purpose of existence is to love and serve God, buddy. :)

>> No.15504850

>>15504827
Whats the symbolism? Without using 4chan buzzwords like cuck or soy

>> No.15504853

>>15504801
It is and it isn't. My buddy who never washes his hands at all and lives in filth gets sick multiple times per year but still hasn't gotten the China virus. It's more a ploy to make people scared, depressed, and socially withdrawn so they're easier to manipulate. People who are gonna get sick are gonna get sick. That has how humans have worked since we've existed. Toddlers get bone cancer for no apparent reason.

>> No.15504857

>>15504848
This is true. However being part of a religion and a church involves so much more than sitting around saying “god is real”

>> No.15504858

>>15504799
It's because they don't naturally live in fear without clear and present danger. Some churches have stayed closed since March, but the ones that stay open have people who want to go in person. Not saying all Christians always think the same, but any church that reopened quickly would attract that sort of person.

>> No.15504860

>>15504840
>being shown respect is fanfiction
I know you’ve never had a job, but I used to work in the service industry and I’d go out of my way to help out people who were being bros. I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary to be relieved to see someone wearing a mask during a global pandemic. You can choose to forgo the mask all you want but I’m an essential employee (not healthcare related) so I actually have to venture out into the real world, I don’t get BidenBux for jacking it in my parents basement all day.

>> No.15504861

>>15504853
>It's more a ploy to make people scared, depressed, and socially withdrawn so they're easier to manipulate
Then why did Trump lose?

>> No.15504863

>>15504857
Go forth, glorifying God by your life. :)

>> No.15504870

>>15504850
Virtue signaling that they're more important than you are, or more cautious. That they take the "pandemic" seriously and you don't. I live in Colorado.. You'll see people walking outside alone with a mask on just to make a statement. Some people are genuinely crippled with fear and will run away from you if you come too close. For the most part nobody in my apartment complex even wears them in the laundry room that the entire complex uses. I find it's more common in the affluent neighborhoods that people get uptight about masks. Think about it like the types of people that invented home owners associations. It's mostly miserable pricks that want everyone else to be as miserable as they are, or people with control complexes.

>> No.15504875

>>15504861
Election fraud. Trump didn't lose. He won by a landslide.

>> No.15504877

>>15504860
>during a global pandemic
Soyjackjazzhands.jpg

>> No.15504878

>>15504860
tl;dr roastie

>> No.15504881

>>15504860
>I actually have to venture out into the real world
So does everyone else who doesn't have a fake office job where they create non existent work for themselves aka 90% of people who love masks and kvetch about global pandemics.

>> No.15504882 [DELETED] 

>>15504870
I wear it because i think people appreciate it and i havent shaved in awhile. You are a schizo nut

>> No.15504887

>>15504881
>office job
Yeah, no. I saved someone’s life last week. Again, not healthcare related.

>> No.15504890

>>15504870
I bet you would say the same shit about car turn blinkers

>> No.15504896

>>15504850
Tbh, I’m not sure. But sometimes I encounter people who really want to make a big show of how seriously they take the virus (just the other day, some boomer lady walked into knee deep snow to distance herself from me and nearly fell over). It really seems like the performance is the most important thing for them, because if they were really scared they probably wouldn’t be going for walks outside every day. Yet If they don’t go outside, no one can see how seriously they’re taking the virus.

If I had to guess at what the symbolism was, I think it’s definitely a layered thing. Part of it shows their willingness to unquestionably accept massive societal change on a fundamental level, which is backed up by years of political messaging that a fundamental change to society is necessary and imminent. I think another aspect is their rigid adhesion to science as religion and dogma. I have no doubt that if these people were asked why they take it so seriously they could not explain it without “well the studies say...”. Obviously a lot of it can be explained with how some people, especially the people that take it super seriously, like having this whole holier than thou attitude, yadda yadda yadda. I still don’t understand it fully but it really is interesting as a window to analyze the way people think nowadays. I encourage you to think about what you’ve seen in your life and try to figure it out as well.

>> No.15504897
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15504897

>wearing only one mask

>> No.15504900

>>15504887
Wow, what a hero. AND you were wearing the mask? Stunning. Stunning and brave.
And then everybody clapped.

>> No.15504906

>>15504900
You’ll never know what it’s like to be thanked for saving someone’s life, but then again most people don’t

>> No.15504909

>>15504887
Nobody cares. I drive trucks for a living. I save peoples lives every day by delivering food, goods, and medical supplies. I've never told anyone I'm an "essential worker" because I'm not a narcissistic prick. I also don't care if people wear masks because for one they do nothing and two there's something called freedom.
>>15504890
>YOU THINK THIS SO THIS MUST ALSO BE TRUE
>>15504882
Schizo. Good one. You have no reason to wear a mask except you're ugly and you want to keep wearing them because you don't want people to see your face. If anybody is the schizo, it's you. Nobody cares how ugly you are and nobody notices you regardless. Nobody appreciates your mask wearing either. Literally nobody thinks about you. You're paranoid.

>> No.15504911

>>15504906
>he says on an anonymous image board, desperate to show what he believes puts him above others on his imaginary superiority scale

>> No.15504912

>>15504896
This pretty much sums it up. I’m in Texas and I don’t mind wearing the mask, so when I’m out I wear the mask. Nobody else here wears it but I really don’t give a shit, I just mostly don’t want to be bothered about it.

I was visiting family in California last fall and the theatrics everyone there participates in is ridiculous. I was at a party where all of my friends’ super lefty friends were going on about how “this is the new normal” and “things will never be the same”, but that’s what happens when you live in a bubble.

>> No.15504918

>>15504909
Heres the post i deleted i felt bad but i liked your super triggered response

"I wear it because i think people appreciate it and i havent shaved in awhile. You are a schizo"

>> No.15504920

>>15504911
Says the person trying to tear down a person for wearing a fucking mask

>> No.15504930

>>15504912
It's been proven that lefties have the fight or flight instinct missing from their brain function. It's why they allow themselves to be raped and cuckolded. They live in constant fear, but do nothing about it because they're genetically victims and have no purpose in life. They don't believe in a higher power. Their body is their temple and their god.

>> No.15504932

>>15504148
How did you manage to still don't understand how masks should be used? I mean, I don't wear them at the drive thru, but at least I recognize both are supposed to have one.

>> No.15504935

>>15504148
100% false

>> No.15504939

>>15504144
I keep a mask on the front passenger seat. I put it on before I pull up to the window then take it off the second I drive off.

>> No.15504941

>>15504909
>Literally nobody thinks about you
You’d be surprised at how many Karens there are in this world. The entire democratic establishment is basically a coalition of Karens. A lot of people care what strangers do and say, for right or wrong.

The rage is funny though.
>DONT WEAR A MASK REEEE

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>>15504918
>Says the person trying to tear down a person for wearing a fucking mask

aww do you need a safe space, honey?

>> No.15504944

>>15504144
>looks like a girl
>has a boy name

>> No.15504947

>>15504942
At least I reply to the correct posts

>> No.15504958

>>15504920
You are truly like the prophet Mohammed. Saving lives in so many ways. Inshallah brother

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>>15504942
>mention a mask
>alt-right incel immediately starts seething and throwing a tantrum
Every time

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>>15504947
>At least I reply to the correct posts

>> No.15504964

>>15504529
Same

>> No.15504967

>>15504930
I dunno about that, but you’re right that lefties play the victim. About 5 years ago I had a friend tell me that “pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is a myth”. This is a guy whose mother was on welfare because she was a drug addict and his dad barely scraped by. He was working at 16 years old and is going to school for his doctorate in psychology. He is literally a walking boot strap puller-upper and he’s telling me the government needs to fund Shaquisha’s 5th baby because muh victimization.

>> No.15504973

>>15504967
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092984/

>> No.15504975

>>15504959
Actually they didn't lose anything. They weren't even permitted to bring their evidence to light. Courts decided they wouldn't hear it. Trump won, but Biden became president.

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>>15504975
lol

>> No.15504981

>>15504967
>>15504973
> Conservatives respond to threatening situations with more aggression than do liberals [1] and are more sensitive to threatening facial expressions [5]. This heightened sensitivity to emotional faces suggests that individuals with conservative orientation might exhibit differences in brain structures associated with emotional processing such as the amygdala. Indeed, voting behavior is reflected in amygdala responses across cultures [6]. We therefore further investigated our structural MRI data to evaluate whether there was any relationship between gray matter volume of the amygdala and political attitudes. We found that increased gray matter volume in the right amygdala was significantly associated with conservatism (Figure 1B) (R = 0.23, T(88) = −2.22, p < 0.029 corrected). No significant correlation was found in the left amygdala (R = 0.15, T(88) = −1.43, p = 0.15 corrected; see Figure S1 available online for the individual gray matter volumes of the ACC and amygdala).

Lefties are genetically victims. They don't know how to fight.

>> No.15504987

Itt: retard truck driver on his 10 hour break is very upset you wear a mask

>> No.15504988

>>15504870
Here's a non-cucked church in Denver.
https://youtu.be/NUXdAeMq0fE

>> No.15504991

>>15504981
I was skimming through, I’ll have to sit down and read that later, but I saw that paragraph. All that says, in reference to fight or flight, is that conservatives seem to react more fight than flight when compared to liberals, which is a far way away from “liberals don’t have FoF”. I’ll continue reading and even though we’re on the same page I think you should reconsider your ostentatious assertion.

>> No.15504994

>>15504981
Lefties are genetically degenerate homosexuals (aka child fuckers).

>> No.15504998

>>15504988
I've actually been there a few times, the one in Broomfield before my church opened back up. But I go to a different church pretty close by. It's more based than Brave. But like I said there's one couple that wears their masks.

>> No.15505000

>>15504534
I used to be an asshole that only thought about myself, I got sick, never even realized about it, and I'm pretty sure I'm responsible for 1 death (possibly 2), fucking up some guy's lungs and making at least 2 other people have a very bad time.
That shit weights on you, man, remember that for the next pandemic, maybe you won't be so lucky.

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>>15504981
>Lefties are genetically victims
lmao

>> No.15505007

>>15505000
Lol. What a joke. Falling prey to the imaginary china flu.

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>>15504981

>> No.15505012

>>15505000
Are you also responsible for people who get cancer? It's not your fault that some people are genetically weaker. They were going to get the virus whether you gave it to them or someone else did. It's out there. It's physically impossible to avoid it forever. That's the whole point. You're going to get it, or you aren't. No amount of mask wearing or social distancing is ever going to stop the people who will get sick from getting sick.

>> No.15505016

>>15505000
Jesus you are fucking pathetic

>> No.15505018

>>15505004
Yeah that’s why Trump supporters are pushing the idea that police officers are racist, free speech causes actual physical harm, and women are being oppressed when asked not to murder babies. Buncha victims, I tell you.

Wait...

>> No.15505019

>>15505011
>>15505004
>>15504978
>>15504959
No counter argument, no debate, just pouting because you aren't getting your way. Genetically a victim.

>> No.15505027

Kek
A starbucks a few days ago they saw me coughing in my car. So when I got up to the window to pay they gave me my hot chocolate on the house

O_O

>> No.15505028

>>15505000
>and then everyone clapped

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>>15505018
>>15505019
>genetic victims
lmao

>> No.15505031

>>15505012
>everyone is going to die so why not just murder everyone you see, survival of the fittest and strongest genetics win
You’re completely missing the point of taking precautions. I’m not the guy you replied to and I’m not saying we should even be in lockdown, but the argument that you should be coughing in peoples faces because it’s Darwinism is a pretty shit argument.

People who are high risk should stay home. People who don’t care should be allowed to sit in a fucking restaurant.

>> No.15505033

Show me 1 single research paper using randomized control testing that proves masks make even the slightest bit of difference and then I'll... still not wear one because lol

>> No.15505035

>>15505029
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive/exclusive-proud-boys-leader-was-prolific-informer-for-law-enforcement-idUSKBN29W1PE

>> No.15505040

>>15505012
>it's impossible to avoid it
>you're going to get it or you're not
Time to take your meds schizo

>> No.15505044

>>15505035
>nazis, racists and insurrectionists are part of law enforcement
Tell us something we don't know lmao

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>>15504932
>>15504935

>> No.15505050

>>15505031
>everyone is going to die so why not just murder everyone you see, survival of the fittest and strongest genetics win

That is an ad hominem argument. I never said you should go around murdering people. But it truly is survival of the fittest. It's how people have lived for thousands of years. There's no reason to take "precautions" because there are no precautions that are proven to work. Show me one article that proves wearing masks reduces your risk of dying from the china virus. Sweden is a perfect example, but nobody ever talks about Sweden because it doesn't fit their agenda.

>> No.15505052

>>15505044
Did you read the article? He was an informant for police, meaning the cops were busting the people he associated. It’s literally the complete opposite of your retarded propaganda.

>> No.15505061

>>15505052
>double-digit IQ Trumpledytes got tricked by an informant
LMAO yeah they aren't very bright

>> No.15505063

>>15505012
>>15505016
>>15505007
Thank you guys, but no amount of eugenic bullshit, mental gymnastics or intuitive yet retarded statistical arguments have been able to make me feel less responsible.
And I suspect the same would happen to you.

>> No.15505065

>>15505040
You ARE going to get it. Unless you walk around in a fucking pressurized biohazard suit, have a decontamination chamber, grow your own food, have your own source of water and oxygen, you're going to get it. No amount of virtue signaling with lock downs, masks or social distancing is going to prevent that from happening. Simple as.

>> No.15505068

>>15505050
>But it truly is survival of the fittest
Exactly. This is why your mother needs to kick you out of the house. This type of coddling is what breeds retards like you.

>> No.15505069

>>15505050
You meant to say straw man, not ad hominem. But even then you contradict yourself.
>I didn’t say survival of the fittest, but it’s survival of the fittest

We know the virus is mostly spread by person to person contact. Remember in March when we thought the virus could live for 69 days suspended in the air and 420 days on surfaces? We quickly found out neither of those things were true, so we know it’s person-to-person. Therefore, reducing your exposure to people is a precaution that works.

Sweden has a much healthier and younger and SIGNIFICANTLY smaller population than the US. You might as well be comparing US cities if you’re going to use Sweden as an example.

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>> No.15505079

>>15505065
Nah, I've already got the vaccine lmao. Sorry to burst your cope bubble.

>> No.15505081

>>15505052
>>15505061
They were ALL glowies save for a couple of gullible retards. It reminds me of the copypasta posted on /k/ where some dudes dad was an undercover sheriff working in a local militia organized by federal agents, and eventually they realized everyone involved was law enforcement in some capacity.

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15505083

>"Hey guise! Masks don't inhibit airborne viruses. Covid is a hoax. Hitler did nothing wrong. Laul!"

>> No.15505097

Yikes, cringe seeing how many people fell victim the the binary politics mind virus.

If, like most people, you have 2 or 3 cloth masks that you rotate between and wash like once a week, think about how much bacteria is growing on that mask from your hot, wet breath, then getting sucked out of the air into your mask. The mask is really like a particle magnet that’s conveniently touching your mouth constantly. I wouldn’t be surprised if it actually made it worse.

>> No.15505103

>>15505069
>remember back when science was wrong but now it's totally right this time because science!
>Don't wear a mask
>Wear a mask
>Wear two masks
>Here's why you should wear three masks

Sweden is the only country not enforcing lock downs or masks. Regardless of their population or relative age.
>>15505079
The vaccine has the virus in it. Cope more. Enjoy your long term health complications.

>> No.15505109

>>15505097
Bacteria grows on your skin, it’s what makes your body odor and your sweat stink. But yeah I remember reading that the rate of bacterial pneumonia has increased.

>> No.15505110

>>15505083
this but unironically

>> No.15505113

>>15505103
Aw, I bet you're seething that I'll never have heart and lung issues from COVID. Poor guy! I bet you've already contracted it LMAO

NGMI

>> No.15505116

>>15505103
If you don’t want to wear a mask then fine, I’m not asserting any of those ridiculous claims you’ve assigned to me. I’m simply refuting your absolutely insane notion that there’s absolutely nothing we can do and there are no such things as precautions.

>> No.15505130

>>15504896
>I think another aspect is their rigid adhesion to science as religion and dogma
This might be a contender for the single most retarded sentence ever posted on this site.

>> No.15505132

>>15505109
Not surprised, and gee, giving yourself a respiratory infection is like the worst case scenario right now.

It boggles the mind that people don’t see the danger in having a piece of cloth that catches and holds onto every piece of bacteria in the air wherever you go, kept at a perfect moist 98.6 degrees from your breath, literally touching your mouth and nose.

>> No.15505134

>>15505130
Science is not perfect truth anon, it’s perfect truth filtered through imperfect human brains.

>> No.15505135

>>15505031
As a high risk myself, I would rather be allowed to do stuff in my short time on this earth.

>> No.15505148

>>15505134
>Science is not perfect truth so anyone who uses observable evidence and scientific conclusions to guide their decision making process instead of just lmaoyoloing through life like a fucking neanderthal is a dogmatic sheep

Also you used "adhesion" incorrectly Cletus.

>> No.15505150

>>15504998
The more based the better, but the Brave guy called BLM satanic in one of his sermons.

>> No.15505152

>>15505135
For the record I meant people should do what they want, even if they’re high risk. We don’t need mommy government giving us a timeout for our own good, we’re smart enough to make decisions for ourselves.

>>15505132
I don’t think it’s as bad as you think. My point is that we have an immune system for a reason, and not every microbe of bacteria is going to kill us. I do have to recognize that there is a correlation though, but no studies have linked it to mask wear.

>> No.15505163

>>15505152
>we have an immune system, therefor we should just scrap medical science all together and die faster as nature intended
Worst logic I've ever heard. You go ahead, bro, we'll stick with medicine.

>> No.15505165

>>15505116
There are no such things as precautions because you can't stop a coronavirus from spreading or completely kill it. Do you want to wear masks for the rest of your life? Live in infinite lock down? Have more and more restrictions imposed? If you mean take precautions like wash your hands and sanitize high traffic / food surfaces well we were already doing that pre-pandemic. What precautions do you suggest we take that actually end up with a different result? Why is it worth making living miserable for the .003% chance you're going to die from a disease? Do you think this shit is going to end once they force vaccinate everyone? You clearly lack critical thinking skills. All you can think about is the present.

Think about this one long and hard. What if this NEVER ends and you NEVER get to go back to a normal life. Is it worth giving up every ounce of happiness that you'll ever achieve in life for the sake of "precaution" toward a disease that barely kills anyone?

>> No.15505172

>>15505150
I might audition for the worship band at Brave. My church is full on that end. I thought it was pretty good, I've just been going to mine for years and the facility they rent out was closed for most of last year.

>> No.15505175

>>15505163
You should probably read the conversation before just randomly replying. You’d see that I was actually defending mask wear, you insufferable jackass.

>> No.15505184

>>15505163
People used to legitimately die at their occupation at massively higher rates than covid and still do. People die in car wrecks, should we stop driving? People die in skiing accidents, should we ban skiing? What the fuck do you want. You're going to die some day. Make amends with Jesus and live it to the fullest.

>> No.15505185

>>15505175
Masks don't do anything, retard

>> No.15505186

>>15504144
no

>> No.15505189

>>15505165
You know that precaution just means to take extra steps to be careful, not to completely prevent something from happening, right? I would agree with you that we can’t completely prevent covid or erase it from existence, but you’ve been going on and on about how we shouldn’t even bother trying which is ludicrous.

>> No.15505192

>>15505163
Also medical malpractice is literally one of the leading causes of death in the world. So maybe you should stop getting medical care, it's pretty dangerous.

>> No.15505197

>>15505189
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO LOCK DOWN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AND WEAR 3 MASKS? WHAT PRECAUTIONS DO YOU SUGGEST WE TAKE?

>> No.15505200

>>15505185
Latest studies show they reduce exposure by like 30% or whatever.

>> No.15505201

>>15505184
No thanks, I'll take simple precautions and live longer. By your logic you may as well kill yourself now since you're going to die anyway LOL

>> No.15505202

>>15505152
I was agreeing with you. I don't need to be for any of this nonsense just because I'm at-risk. I would probably make all the same choices I do now if weren't at-risk.

>> No.15505204

>food & cooking

>> No.15505206

>>15505192
But still far less than dying from medical issues. I think I'll take my chances.

>> No.15505209

>>15505197
Holy shit, calm down autismo. You know that using hand sanitizer is a precaution right? If people really wanted to go all out they could lock themselves down, but we could be much more casual like licking less doorknobs and not touching every avocado in the store before we buy.

>> No.15505211

>>15505200
I have a hard time trusting any study because they can only test efficacy in a rigidly controlled, sterile, stationary laboratory environment. In the real world things are way different

>> No.15505214

>>15505211
>I don’t like this study therefore I don’t trust it

>> No.15505216

>>15505197
Kid, you already spend most of your waking day in your mother's basement. Relax, we have a vaccine.

>> No.15505217

>>15505201
So you agree that we should go back to living as we did and ditch the masks and social distancing, because this is never going to end? You're not offering a solution better than mine. You're just parroting this narrative that we have to take precautions.

>> No.15505222

>>15505216
Right. The vaccine that they've already said isn't effective and that you'll still have to wear a mask after taking. That has multiple long term health complications. That vaccine. That's the solution.

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>>15505216
This shit is never going to end with you people.

>> No.15505235

>>15505217
>this narrative that we have to take precautions
Anon, you are deep in the rabbit hole. Yeah, taking precautions not to contract a virus is a good thing. Taking precautions not to die in a fiery car crash is a good thing. Taking precautions to not die of autoeroticasphyxiation is a good thing. You don’t have to throw the baby out with the bath water just because you think it’s wrong that the government is forcing us to stay inside and eat the bugs.

>> No.15505237

>>15505132
How stupid do you have to be to not consider that people much smarter than you have already though of that many, many times over.

Pure concentrated dunning kruger retardedness

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>> No.15505244

>>15505235
>here's why this is a good thing
>>15505237
>Trust authority! They would never lie to you. They're SMARTER than you are.

>> No.15505247

>>15505244
I love this qanon overflow. You have nowhwre else to put your energy now do you?

>> No.15505249

>>15505244
Now you’re just being ridiculous. I’ve never once made an appeal to authority argument, just because someone else who disagrees with you did doesn’t mean everyone does. Is this your first debate?

>> No.15505253

>>15505247
I'm providing you with mountains of evidence and reasonable arguments yet your only response is that I'm a qanon conspiracy theorist? I never believed in qanon for a second. I knew that was a psyop from the beginning. This is just common sense and critical thinking.

>> No.15505259

>>15505130
No, he's right, we have a problem with that nowadays, people just don't know when a scientific fact or recommendation is based on solid evidence, or at least in the best information available at the time.

There are almost as many retards repeating everything scientific authorites say as it was gospel as there are retards ignoring solid evidence or failing to understand that scientists and politicians aren't omniscient evil masterminds that plan every "failure" they have.

We must understand that sometimes, specially during a crisis, the best information we got is not that good or complete.

>> No.15505260

>>15505249
You just said trust people who are much smarter than you are. That's an appeal to authority. As if people who are smarter than you have your best intentions in mind. You have no clue how the world works kiddo. You have no debate. Your only response so far has been to trust science and take precautions.

>> No.15505263

>>15505259
You have to go back.

>> No.15505266

>>15505260
That wasn’t me, retard. Did you not understand the post you just replied to?

>> No.15505274

>>15505253
Today is 2/1/21. At 2:12pm today you will receive a message. Plug 2121... repeating into the cypher to reveal the message.

You are are only hope anon

>> No.15505278

>>15505260
Also, if you think that rubbing alcohol doesn’t kill microbes or that we don’t cross contaminate when we touch things like avocados then you’re clearly off your meds. Do you think cooking chicken to 165 to prevent salmonella or canning sauces at a PH of 4.6 or less to prevent botulism is a conspiracy too?

>> No.15505280

>>15505274
I've got you, babe.

>> No.15505286

>>15505217
No.

>>15505222
The vaccine is an effective solution, yes.

>> No.15505289

>>15505244
Yes, most experts are trustworthy and certainly more trustworthy than the conspiracy sheep who believe made up shit their uncle posted on Facebook

>> No.15505291

>>15505278
If rubbing alcohol is so effective and harmless we might as well drink it. I mean, if you're willing to spray your food down with it and eat it. Kill all the microbes in your body, you'll have no worries.

>> No.15505292

>>15505200
What study? The only ones I've seen assume people stand still indoors with no windows.

>> No.15505299

>>15505204
Yes, this is about eating indoors at restaurants, and having guests over for dinner.

>> No.15505300

>>15505289
Remember last year when they experts told us to stop buying masks because they weren't effective and the hospitals would run out?

>> No.15505302

>>15505291
Ethanol is safe to consume, some enjoy it on a regular basis. Methanol, not so much. Give up anon. Go eat your raw chicken to really stick it to people like me who prefer to eat it cooked.

>> No.15505304

>>15505289
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK63655/
Even the experts are telling you not to trust their expertise. But I guess I wrote that book and designed the government website that hosts it. Or wait, my uncle on Facebook did. I'm just a conspiracy sheep.
>>15505286
I just cited sources saying that the vaccine isn't effective and you're saying it's effective now. If it's 95% effective it's actually LESS effective than no vaccine at all.

>> No.15505307

>>15505278
Technically rubbing alcohol needs to be mixed with water in order for best antimicrobial results. 70% is perfect. 50 is too low, and 90+ is too high

Donno why i had to post this but enjoy

>> No.15505309

>>15505300
I also remember when the goal of all this was to flatten the curve, so we didn't overwhelm the hospitals.

>> No.15505314

>>15505302
>some enjoy it on a regular basis
Now we know why you're braindead.

>> No.15505315

>>15505307
Thanks chemistryanon. Can you teach that retard the difference between consuming hand sanitizer and rubbing it on your hands?

>> No.15505319

>>15505309
JUST TWO MORE WEEKS

>> No.15505320

>>15505314
>ethanol kills brain cells
Anon, just quit while you’re ahead.

>> No.15505323

>>15505300
I do

>>15505304
They're not saying don't ever trust experts, they're saying you should have a healthy level of skepticism. Again, this doesn't change the fact that experts are more reliable than Facebook sheep like you an your uncle who demand blind trust despite their lack of knowledge, education and evidence.

>> No.15505330
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>>15505320
>Just give up! Quit while you're ahead! I Have no more arguments. Please stop bullying me anon!!

>> No.15505334

>>15505309
That is one of the goals, yes.

>> No.15505336

>>15505323
I don't have a Facebook account and my uncles are dead. And they're not more reliable. If they were, they wouldn't completely reverse their opinion every time the government tells them to.

>> No.15505339

>>15505330
I’ve refuted every single retarded argument, I’m trying to help that poor anon from digging deeper holes. It started from “why should we take precautions”, went to “you’re saying we should drink hand sanitizer”, and ended up at “ethanol kills brain cells”. It’s just getting pathetic. I’m more than happy to keep up with this shit show.

>> No.15505340 [DELETED] 

just a flu

>> No.15505343

gonna get covid and kill myself to own the libs brb

>> No.15505347

>>15505336
Maybe your uncles wouldn't be dead if they wore a mask.

>> No.15505346

>>15504144
No. Were in two separate shelters. How the fuck would covid spread between our mouths unless I'm screaming at them

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>>15505339
You never suggested a single precaution we should take or how to effectively implement it and when we would see results. You just said cook your chicken and rub hand sanitizer on your hands. We did that before covid. As I stated earlier. Nothing has changed as far as precautions to avoid illnesses go besides social distancing and masks which are proven ineffective. So where do we go from here smart guy?

>> No.15505353

>>15505336
>I don't have a Facebook account, I just get spoonfed by the Facebook sheep on /pol/
k

>> No.15505354

>>15505347
My uncle died from leukemia at 8 years old in the 60s.

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>>15505353
>everyone who disagrees with me is a facebook and /pol/ sheep!!!
take your meds schizo

>> No.15505362

>>15505237
Smart people are often wrong

>> No.15505369

>>15505350
I never used hand sanitizer before covid. I was never overly cautious about what I touched in public. Those are good starts. I never really got sick very often in the first place but I didn’t have to worry about a virus twice as deadly as the flu until about a year ago. I think social distancing is better than not. I don’t hold a measuring tape with me but if I can give some extra space rather than not, I will. These are all precautions and up until 5 seconds ago you were screaming that we shouldn’t be doing any of them and they were all a conspiracy so I’m glad you’ve come around. My position hasn’t changed on this but yours has, so I’m glad we’ve talked. Now take your meds.

>> No.15505381 [DELETED] 

>>15505343
Are you obese or old perchance?

>> No.15505383 [DELETED] 

>>15505369
>a virus twice as deadly as the flu
Source?

>> No.15505384

>>15505369
It's twice as deadly if you have pre existing conditions. It's borderline harmless to most people

>> No.15505387

>>15505369
My position hasn't changed. Masks and social distancing aren't effective and there is no study proving they are. We don't need them. As for hand sanitizer just wash your hands before you eat or touch your mouth or eyes. I've been doing this since I was a toddler because I wasn't a fucking retard. Twice as deadly as the flu, huh? Amazing how there's almost no flu deaths this year though. I'm not even going to get into the discussion of comorbidity and doctors being pressured to list covid as a cause of death. The only thing you've proven is that you're afraid and you want everyone else to be as afraid as you are. I haven't come around to a thing because you're wrong.

>> No.15505390

>>15505360
Nah, just you.

>> No.15505392

>>15505384
I intentionally said “twice as deadly” because in my demographic the flu is almost completely bending, but twice as deadly as benign is in this case still benign.

>> No.15505395

>>15505354
leukemia is a fake disease

>> No.15505396

>>15505387
You were screaming at me that I said we should be using hand sanitizer and not contaminating objects in public, you then mocked me by saying we should be drinking hand sanitizer. This is the first time in the entire thread that you’ve recognized that precautions aren’t a conspiracy by scientists and some of them might be a good idea. You’re being disingenuous because you want to win an argument. Stop.

>> No.15505399

>>15505369
And by the way, washing your hands and sanitizing surfaces isn't a COVID related precaution. Neither is cooking a chicken to 165 degrees. This entire discussion is about masks and social distancing. You keep changing the subject back to hand sanitizer. No shit there's bacteria and disease on objects and you should wash your hands. It still isn't going to prevent you from getting an airborne disease that is spread through viral particles smaller than the piece of cloth you're wearing on your face. It isn't going to stop you from walking through someones breath 6 feet away from them. End the masks and social distancing, wash your hands before you eat or stick your grubby fingers in your nose. Shit everyone who wasn't a pathetic loser already did their entire lives.

>> No.15505403

>>15505396
You should not eat finger food with hand sanitizer on your hands. You should not spray your food down with rubbing alcohol. Just like you should not drink rubbing alcohol. I'm not going to stop, because you're a fucking moron and you deserve to be bullied for your shit for brains opinion.

>> No.15505408

>>15505384
Completely false, over 80% of patients develop permanent inflammatory myocarditis regardless of the intensity of the case of SARS-CoV-2 they’ve contracted. Not only that, but many patients that have recovered from weaker cases of SARS-CoV-2 sustain permanent damage to neurons, resulting in brain damage that presents itself in the colloquially termed “brain fog.” I can link you to some studies if you are interested, since I had to do extensive research on the topic for my degree.

>> No.15505420

>>15505408
>80% of patients
80% of hospitalized patients. Now how many of those patients were hospitalized with two or more comorbidities, what was their age, what was their health history. Any surgeries? How does that correlate to the general population who haven't been hospitalized or treated for COVID at a rate per capita? I can go on and on, but your extensive research doesn't mean shit without statistical evidence.

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>>15505420
>Life expectancy for U.S. men slipped for a third straight year, according to new data from the National Center for Health Statistics. The average male lifespan stood at 76.1 years in 2017

Oh boy so people die when they get older. We better wear 3 masks to protect the inevitable!

>> No.15505432

>>15505403

>>15505165
>There are no such things as precautions because you can't stop a coronavirus from spreading or completely kill it
>>15505012
>No amount of mask wearing or social distancing is ever going to stop the people who will get sick from getting sick.

>>15505244
>>>15505235
>>here's why this is a good thing
>>>15505237
>>Trust authority! They would never lie to you. They're SMARTER than you are.

>>15505387
>My position hasn't changed.

Yeah, I was appealing to authority by saying sanitize your hands.

>> No.15505438

>>15505432
(additionally)

>>15505291
>>>15505278
>If rubbing alcohol is so effective and harmless we might as well drink it. I mean, if you're willing to spray your food down with it and eat it. Kill all the microbes in your body, you'll have no worries.

>> No.15505446

>>15505432
If you weren't washing your hands before you were just an idiot. People sanitized shopping carts decades ago because they're gross. It's not my fault if you're just learning that washing your hands is effective against bacterial and viral infections. I don't see what any of this has to do with lock downs, masks, and social distancing which have not been proven to be effective whatsoever.

>> No.15505454

>>15505446
You literally said "there are no such things as precautions", when I said "well hand sanitizing is pretty good" you went off on a rampage about how we shouldn't just blindly listen to scientists. I agree with you on that, just not because I suggested hand sanitizer kills microbes. I keep brining up hand sanitizer because you kept shooting it down like it was some crazy conspiracy. You finally recognized that it's a good precaution, which means you agree that precautions exist, and you've changed from your original position.

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>>15504144
I wear two masks at all times

>> No.15505463

>>15505454
ITS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS. WASHING YOUR HANDS ISN'T GOING TO PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING IT. YOU WILL GET IT. THERE ARE LITERALLY NO PRECAUTIONS BESIDES LOCKING YOURSELF IN A BIO CHAMBER THAT WILL STOP YOU FROM GETTING IT.

That doesn't mean you should go get a non airborne bacterial or viral infection on top of it by being a moron and sticking your grubby hands in your mouth. Or get salmonella poisoning because you undercooked your chicken. Fuck off. I'm done wasting my time arguing.

>> No.15505464

>>15505334
Have we accomplished it? Are the other goals even achievable?

>> No.15505466

>>15505454
It has not changed my original position that you WILL get COVID no matter what precautions you take. You've won nothing.

>> No.15505475

Why did this thread explode in popularity?
It is the most tired topic in existence right now.

>> No.15505478

>>15505475
Because /ck/ is full of virtue signaling bunkerchan trannies that can only handle 4chanlite.

>> No.15505479

>>15505463
>THERE ARE LITERALLY NO PRECAUTIONS
Here we go again.

>ITS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS
Do you know why I can't smell that fart you just laid? Because I'm not in the same room as you. It's almost like being further away from you reduces the likelihood that I'm going to be exposed to air particulates you eject into the atmosphere. I agreed that it will never 100% go away. I agreed that we can't 100% eliminate it from the air, but saying there isn't a single way to mitigate the risk is just disingenuous or insane.

>> No.15505486

>>15505408
>over 80% of patients develop permanent inflammatory myocarditis regardless of the intensity of the case of SARS-CoV-2 they’ve contracted
Source?

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>>15505072

>> No.15505498

>>15505479
Mitigate what risk? It's never going away. You will get it. 99.7 percent of people will survive. It's time to live life again and stop being a pussy.

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I have asthma. I live with my parents who are elderly (I care for them).
The drive thru attendant is having contact with hundreds of people per day. They're usually young adults who are more likely to spread covid as they take less notice of social distancing, engage in risk taking behaviour and can spread covid whilst exhibiting very little or no symptoms.
On the rare occasions I have used a drive thru since last march I most definitely wear a mask.

I just assume everyone under 30 is a diseased mess of a person. i hold my breath whilst I walk by them etc.

>> No.15505502

>>15505499
Sounds like a personal problem. Lock yourself at home and never leave. Let the rest of us live.

>> No.15505507

Work in food service.
Normally can't have a beard in kitchen without beard net.
Masks works the same and i get to keep my beard.
If i have tons of errands in town ill just keep the fucking thing on when driving from point-a-b-c-d etc.

>> No.15505508

>>15505498
t. internet epidemiologist

>> No.15505510

>>15505499
>I just assume everyone under 30 is a diseased mess of a person. i hold my breath whilst I walk by them etc.
time to take your meds schizo

>> No.15505513

>>15505498
Google wake turbulence. It's a phenomenon where an airfoil producing lift creates wingtip vortices that extend backward and downward and outward. The magnitude is proportional to the amount of lift the airfoil generates. If a light aircraft flies too close behind a much heavier aircraft, the vortices can be too much for the lighter one to overcome and it can send them into an uncontrollable rotation. Many aircraft accidents have been caused by this.

Scientists and experts have determined certain rules to mitigate wake turbulence. You can look up the 7110.65 as one reference for air traffic controllers. If a 1,000,000 LB A380's wake turbulence is dispersed enough into the atmosphere enough that a C172 can fly 10 miles behind it, I think I can get far enough away that your covid ridden sneeze is dispersed enough to be less harmful than if you had just sneezed right into my mouth. Does the risk go away completely? Nope. Just using fluid dynamics and physics to make a point.

>> No.15505515

>>15504987
Kek

>> No.15505528

>>15504144
>3 second later putting in mouth something that was touched by several people before
>but it is ok, because they wore masks

Naivity of people baffles me.
Just like corona spreads only in small shops and not giant corp supermarkets.

>> No.15505529

>>15504543
Paying double for fast food MAKES you a cuck...

>> No.15505548

>>15505528
It's also more dangerous after 10pm

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>>15505502
>Lock yourself at home and never leave. Let the rest of us live.

I pretty much have.

Don't really see why morons like yourself get to make quite significant decisions as to how much risk you can and should subject other people to. Especially when you consider how ill-informed you are and how susceptible you are to propaganda and memes.

I'm pretty glad I don't live in america where this cult of the individual meme has run rampant . No wonder you're about to tear yourselves apart. You've become so brainwashed by anti socialist/communist propaganda that you've mistaken basic common decency and courtesy as a left-wing conspiracy. Americans have no concept of society or the social. Radical individualists who have the very peculiar, contradicting characteristics of self-aggrandizement and self-pity.. Not very christian.

>> No.15505565

>>15505548
Don't get me started on that nonsense. Not even our retards in eastern eu implemented something like this.
And our prime minister is idiots whose main hobby is parade in front of camera as much as possible.

>> No.15505571

>>15505552
If you had it your way everyone would be locked at home so you can have your safe space.

>> No.15505583

>>15505513
>If a 1,000,000 LB A380's wake turbulence is dispersed enough into the atmosphere enough that a C172 can fly 10 miles behind it, I think I can get far enough away that your covid ridden sneeze is dispersed enough to be less harmful than if you had just sneezed right into my mouth
Dunning kruger

>> No.15505605

>>15505583
The rate of infection is proportional to the amount of exposure. Ingesting 1 microbe of covid is not the same thing as ingesting 1,000,000. Fluid dynamics tells us that on a small scale water particulates try to disperse into a uniform distribution in a given system. You sneezing into my mouth is not going to give me the same exposure as sneezing into a mask on the other side of Costco.

>Dunning kruger
We use analogies to explain things in shorthand, it's a good thing.

>> No.15505613

>>15505552
Your freedom ends where mine starts. It is not mine problem you are genetic dead end.
50 years ago you would expire before getting into teens, you are alive only because of modern medicine.
I said it before and I say it again. We completely removed natural selection from our breeding, time to start replacing it, te best is genetic modifications even before the child is born.
>"bUT tHaTs Immoral!"
Good, then get chink flue and kick bucket.

>> No.15505615

>>15505605
>You sneezing into my mouth is not going to give me the same exposure as sneezing into a mask on the other side of Costco.

Why did you neglect that costco is full of people who might be sneezing?

How many people need to sneeze at once in a costco to equate someone sneezing in your mouth.

You didnt even post sq footage of the costco.
Pathetic

>> No.15505621

>>15505615
It's an inverse square. If you disperse the same amount of particulates in twice the volume, the parts per volume is 1/4th.

>> No.15505636

>>15505259
No he's not right. What you just described is people blindly trusting things they hear, that has nothing to do with people supposedly treating science as a religion. In that same post he also criticised hypothetical people for not being able to justify why they are taking certain precautions without citing studies, like there's something better to base your actions on than scientific evidence.

When it comes to infectious disease knowledge and precautions there is literally nothing worth citing other than scientific evidence, of which studies are the most really available to the general public.

Y'all tinfoil heads are really in here saying we have a problem with people trusting science more than [insert alternative that hasn't been offered yet here]. Like what in the actual fuck are you offering as an alternative? Pissing into the wind and reading the splash pattern on your face to divine the future? Please tell me I really want to know.

>> No.15505669

>>15505621
What if the air is already humid, how does this affect dispersion considering covid transmits in water vapor

Also costco has hvac and big ass fans everywhere, so fuck your square laws

>> No.15505686

>>15505669
>What if the air is already humid
>>15505605
>Fluid dynamics tells us that on a small scale water particulates try to disperse into a uniform distribution in a given system

https://www.engineersedge.com/physics/viscosity_of_air_dynamic_and_kinematic_14483.htm#:~:text=The%20viscosity%20of%20air%20depends,the%20kinematic%20viscosity%2015.7%20cSt.

HVAC introduces entropy which helps disperse air molecules, which is a good thing. You don't want concentrated pockets of farts stagnant in some corner. Filters help, well, filter out contaminates.

It's just an example. I'm not trying to calculate the exact rate of dispersion in a given Costco. The idea gives way to the notion that social distancing and masking is helpful. A fart is 1/4th as pungent at 6 feet than it is at 3 feet, if we remove the vector if it being shot out of a butthole to or from the observers.

>> No.15505694

>>15505686
It literally doesn't matter because you're still going to get it and it's still one of the least likely ways you'll die on earth. So fuck yourself.

>> No.15505699

>>15505694
Yes or no: social distancing helps mitigate the rate of transmission

>> No.15505700

This is definitely food&cooking

>> No.15505702

>>15505700
Hey, I used cooking chicken and PH levels of canned foods to make a point earlier.

>> No.15505703

>>15504144
I don't wear a mask ever unless I'm in a government building, and then I require that they provide a mask.

>> No.15505704

>>15505552
Calling them radical individualists isn't really accurate, if they were then they would recognize things like other peoples' right to avoid association with their dumb asses in public unless they're willing to take basic precautions to avoid showering every person in their immediate vicinity with their microbes. They'd also understand that business owners have the right to tell them to fuck off if they're unwilling to wear a fucking mask for 10 minutes and learn how to cover both their mouth and nose at the same time.

They're radical contrarians whose only purpose is to butt heads with anyone they see as opposing them politically. If you told them Fauci advises that Americans avoid drinking bleach to protect against COVID there'd be an immediate shortage of clorox in stores.

I'm personally against things like government mandates for masks, mandatory lockdowns, etc., but that's because I think businesses and people are perfectly capable of taking the information given to them and using that to decide what reasonable precautions to take.

If a store has a sign up saying masks are required for entry and some dumb fuck with a confederate flag tattoo decides to ignore it because "muh freedumbs" then he fundamentally misunderstands what good actual rights are and should be treated as trespassing on private property. The fact that people see things like that and see it as evidence that individualism is the problem shows that there's a problem with people not knowing the difference between individualism and just being an asshole, from both sides of the argument.

>> No.15505712

>>15505694
Most people get food poisoning at some point in their lives and it's not likely to kill you in a developed nation, that doesn't mean I store my poultry on my coffee table dipshit.

>> No.15505719

>>15505712
Don't bother with him, anon. Earlier he mocked the idea of using hand sanitizer implying we might as well just drink it. I used almost the same exact chicken example to prove a point and he started raging about appeal to authority fallacy.

>> No.15505726
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15505726

>Calling them radical individualists isn't really accurate, if they were then they would recognize things like other peoples' right to avoid association with their dumb asses in public unless they're willing to take basic precautions to avoid showering every person in their immediate vicinity with their microbes. They'd also understand that business owners have the right to tell them to fuck off if they're unwilling to wear a fucking mask for 10 minutes and learn how to cover both their mouth and nose at the same time.
>They're radical contrarians whose only purpose is to butt heads with anyone they see as opposing them politically. If you told them Fauci advises that Americans avoid drinking bleach to protect against COVID there'd be an immediate shortage of clorox in stores.
>I'm personally against things like government mandates for masks, mandatory lockdowns, etc., but that's because I think businesses and people are perfectly capable of taking the information given to them and using that to decide what reasonable precautions to take.
>If a store has a sign up saying masks are required for entry and some dumb fuck with a confederate flag tattoo decides to ignore it because "muh freedumbs" then he fundamentally misunderstands what good actual rights are and should be treated as trespassing on private property. The fact that people see things like that and see it as evidence that individualism is the problem shows that there's a problem with people not knowing the difference between individualism and just being an asshole, from both sides of the argument.

>> No.15505729

>>15505466
I mean this anon makes a good point here. If the virus is going to be around forever like they say it will, everyone is going to get it. They realized this, and they shut everything down not to stop people from getting it, but to stop a wave of people who had it overloading the ICU. Mask wearing and closing things down only serves to lengthen the time that the virus will be around, which is the whole point of doing them. So if you’re wearing a mask, you’re just delaying the people around you from getting infected, but they will get COVID eventually, everyone will. Just look at Sweden. One big wave and then it’s over.

>> No.15505736

>>15505726
seething sheep detected

>> No.15505742

>>15505726
I'm a libertarian anon, I believe the store owner you cough on in "protest" should have the right to blow your brains out and make the world a better place.

>> No.15505773

>>15505742
Libertarians are nigger loving faggots. Opinion discarded

>> No.15505777

>>15505729
If the virus is going to be around forever then locking everything down can't lengthen the time the virus will be around, because forever can't get longer, anon.

At the point that we believe the virus is unlikely to go away similar to influenza, the goal becomes to develop an effective vaccine to control it so that we can return to relative normality with decreased risk of constant uncontrolled spread. When new evidence indicates that outcomes will be different than initially anticipated, the smart move is to adapt our efforts for what we see as the best possible long term solution, not decide it's all pointless and just let whoever dies die.

>> No.15505783

>>15505742
>I'm a Libertarian so I think the State should be allowed to brainwash people into killing me for not wearing a mask

>> No.15505803

>>15505777
You know what I meant. Everyone is going to get it just like the flu, so we can either have everyone get it at once like Sweden, or shut everything down and prolong it. The point is this:

No matter what we do, there is not going to be a single person in the world that did not come into contact with the COVID-19 virus.

If you make it through the first year without getting it you’ll just get it next year. But if you think you can breeze through the entire thing that’s just not going to happen. That’s why lockdowns and mask wearing are pointless to a degree. If you do everything to prevent it now you’ll just get it when everything starts to open up again.

>> No.15505807

>>15505742
ywnbaw
dilate

>> No.15505808

>>15505777
It's never going to be enough for you. Even after this virus hysteria has left you'll invent more hysteria to keep your lock downs and mask mandates in place. "Well if it worked for covid, it'll save tens of thousands of lives from the flu every year!" "Look how productive employees are and how much less sick leave they're using these days!!" "There really is NO reason to go back to work when you can work from home anon. That's a good thing" "why leave the house when I can have everything delivered and live in my bubble??" "OK I'll go back outside, WAIT, I'm having a panic attack!! Nooooooo we can't just reopen everything yet I'm not ready!"
Nothing will ever satisfy your urge to control people and feel superior. You will never let anyone else think or do for themselves what they feel is best. The irony of you calling us sheep when you're the perfect cattle.

>> No.15505819

>>15505704
Dude if you're so scared of living just kill yourself. Let the rest of us get on with our lives. People like you have wasted a year of our time already.

>> No.15505825

>>15505783
Trump lost, get over it.

Personal property rights mean the owner gets to set the rules, fuck around and find out. If the store owner also believes conspiracy theories and doesn't require masks you can go cough info each others' mouths as much as you want but good luck finding a business owner who's stupid enough to alienate the much larger potential customer base of people who don't believe in alien lizard people conspiracies and hasn't gone out of business.

>> No.15505828

>>15505825
You'd make a killing writing buzzfeed articles

>> No.15505831

>>15504454
>they might even think you're a weenie
Only cucks care what fast food employees think of them. You're not a cuck, are you?

>> No.15505838

>>15505808
Slippery slope. Ad hominem. Zero facts.

>> No.15505847

>>15505838
Everyone in the world is going to get COVID-19 eventually, all we can do is slow it down.

>> No.15505849

>>15505552
Sense of society in the US was destroyed in the 60s when the government forced desegregation onto tight-knit white communities.

>> No.15505850

>>15505808
Even if your strawmanning was accurate, I could literally go my entire life with wearing a mask in public being a normal thing and it actually wouldn't bother me at all because I'm not a raging autist who thinks having a piece of cloth on my face is going to kill me.

To be clear I don't think mask MANDATES or government lockdowns are a good idea, I do think people who aren't idiots are going to continue doing simple shit like wearing masks in public until we've got am effective vaccine in place, and I do think your mother should've smoked less crack while she was trying to figure out which of her uncles knocked her up after the family orgy.

>> No.15505853

>>15505838
>muh slippery slope
Bake the cake, bigot.

>> No.15505857

>>15505847
And your solution to that so far has been "speed it up" even though there's exactly zero evidence that would do anything other than make things worse.

>> No.15505860

>>15505850
>I ENJOY BEI

>> No.15505886

>>15505857
My solution is to let the people who aren't afraid go and live their lives and you can sit at home in your bubble. Don't force us to wear masks. You can wear your little face diaper to hide your ugly face as long as you want. I don't want to. I shouldn't have to. You can live the rest of your life in fear but stop affecting mine.

>> No.15505890

>>15505850
>being this afraid of a virus that has an almost 0% chance of physically affecting you at your age
take your meds schizo

>> No.15505891

>>15505857
Prolonging it ad infinitum has huge amounts of negative consequences as well. Speeding it up would mean that the daily number of deaths would be higher, which is more scary for the average citizen, but the total number of deaths will be the same regardless if everyone takes the mask off tomorrow or if every business in the country closes. People just prefer the latter because it’s less scary. I’m not advocating one of the other because they both end in the same amount of people dying. It’s just that one destroys peoples lives in other ways while delaying death, and the other trades a more scary prospect fir a quicker return to life as it is. Clearly, in the US, they’ve chosen the latter, evidenced by the clear messaging saying so.

I think at the end of this, countries like Africa and mexico will be the ones that truly come out on top.

>> No.15505895

>>15505891
*former

>> No.15505898

It's hilarious to me how you qanon cultists are incapable of comprehending the existence of a position anywhere between "we need to government to tell us exactly what to do, mandate quadruple masks at all times, shut down everything, and enforce nationwide curfews" and "private businesses choosing to require masks inside their stores for entry is violence against my religion plus there's no such thing as pandemics"

>> No.15505907

>>15505898
You live in a fantasy world.

>> No.15505932

>>15505898
>IIt's hilarious to me how you qanon cultists are incapable of comprehending the existence of a position anywhere between "we need to government to tell us exactly what to do, mandate quadruple masks at all times, shut down everything, and enforce nationwide curfews" and "private businesses choosing to require masks inside their stores for entry is violence against my religion plus there's no such thing as pandemics"

When virtually every facet of your life is controlled by corporations that are lobbying for government interests then it's no longer an issue of private businesses because those business are essentially government operations. There are no local grocery chains you can shop at that allow you to shop without a mask. There are barely any local businesses to patronize period. You cannot exist without these monopolies. They hold as much if not more power than the government. And on top of that my state has a mask mandate so it's not up to small businesses as to whether or not they're allowed to serve customers without masks or have retarded social distancing procedures and capacity limits. It's being forced upon us and you know it. There's no individual freedom.

>> No.15505938

>>15505831
if you don't care what they think then don't wear a mask

>> No.15505948

>>15505886
Nobody is forcing you to wear anything retard, you are free to not go to places that require masks, it's not a difficult concept to grasp. If people don't want you around them because you're an inconsiderate moron then they have the right to tell you to go fuck yourself and get out. Cope harder.

>>15505890
I'm not afraid of shit, I've been working from home since March because my company can do that and I regularly get together with friends because we're all comfortable doing so. In the rate case that I leave my house I wear a mask when I go into a store because it's asked of me and it literally does not inconvenience me in any way. If they didn't require it I probably still would wear one because I don't feel like getting sick if I can avoid it, though I doubt it would really affect me much if I did get it. If I was actually scares of the virus I'd do everything I can to avoid coming into contact with other people, but that seems extreme to me so I don't do it.

>>15505891
We've already established that there's every reason to believe the virus isn't going away ever, so prolonging it is literally impossible. With that being the case, speeding it up would but reduce the total deaths, it would just increase them faster. Given the choice between "try to prevent some deaths if we can" or "fuck it, kill more people faster for no reason" I'm inclined to think one makes more sense than the other. It's not reasonable to try to prevent every death because that's impossible, but it's just fucking stupid to decide doing nothing is better because you watched infowars once.

>> No.15505957

>>15505948
>Nobody is forcing you to wear anything retard
Then why can't I go to a public park without a mask?

>> No.15505958

>>15505948
>you are free not to go to places that require masks
COLORADO HAS A MASK MANDATE. I'm not free to do anything. And there are NO businesses that allow you to walk in without a mask. My church is the only place that lets me take my mask off once I'm seated. Get fucked.

>> No.15505963

>>15505932
Then move somewhere without a mask mandate and open your own store chud. At this point you're literally just whining that you don't have anywhere you can go to be an asshole. Mandates are bullshit but even without them I guarantee you wouldn't be able to find more than a handful of places that would let you in without a mask because anyone as retarded as you is going to fail as a business owner.

>> No.15505965

>>15505957
>can't go in federal buildings without a mask
>can't go in state buildings without a mask
>can't go in walmart without a mask
>can't go in kroger, safeway, walgreens, circle K, Wawa, QuickTrip, McDonalds, Taco Bell, Starbucks, etc, etc, etc, without a mask
nobody is forcing you to do anything!! you can still walk outside without a mask!

>> No.15505968

>>15504860
I wish all pandemics had a near 99% survival rate

>> No.15505970

>>15505963
>just move somewhere else
how about you move the fuck out of the state I was born in and stop turning it into California? I can't afford to move and my family is here. Still doesn't matter if you move because every corporation you're forced to shop at to survive has mask mandates.

>> No.15505973

>>15505965
I can't go anywhere without a bunch of face diaper wearing boot lickers looking at me funny

>> No.15505975

>>15505957
If you don't own it you don't make the rules retard this has literally always been the way it works.

>> No.15505980

>>15505975
>people own public property
No they don't

>> No.15505988

>>15505975
>welcome to the great reset
>you'll own nothing
>you'll be happpy
>you'll wear the mask
>you'll eat the bugs
>you'll stream and rent every service
>you won't have a car
>you WILL live in the pod
>business are private entities
>you will be forced to use specific businesses by way of monopolies and government lobbying
>you will own nothing
>nobody will own anything
>you'll all be happy

>> No.15505992

>>15505970
You can literally get everything you need to survive delivered by Amazon if you are afraid of fabric. Hell, you can even avoid wearing pants that way, so it's even less tyranny.

Have you tried not being an uneducated poor retard? Maybe then you could afford to move.

>>15505980
That's the opposite of what I said but okay.

>> No.15505994

>>15505948
There's no such thing as preventing deaths. You either get it today, or get it tomorrow. If it will be around forever, the only way to prevent deaths is effective treatment.

>> No.15506006

>>15505992
>YOU CAN JUST USE THE ONE CORPORATION THAT HAS THE MOST VESTED INTEREST IN CONTINUING THE VIRUS HYSTERIA AND GLOBAL PANIC TO BUY ALL YOUR GOODS, FURTHER ENRICHING THEIR POCKETBOOK AND ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT AGENDA IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAR THE MASK!! YOU HAVE FREEDOM!!

>> No.15506011

Holy fuck y'all it's so simple. If a store wants you to wear a mask, wear it or don't go there. If seeing people in masks triggers your autism them don't go outside, other people have a right to not be accosted by deranged virgins. If your local government is mandating things you don't like, fucking leave. You're just bitching that people aren't bowing to your specific desires the same way that retarded socialists whine that other people aren't forced to pay their rent. If you're not also furious about being required to wear clothes in public then fuck off because you don't make any god damned sense, it's all arbitrary and people with 2 brain cells don't give a fuck one way or the other.

>> No.15506017

>>15505994
Wrong. If we mitigate how many people become infected, the overall existence of the microbe decreases. As discussed earlier, your chance of getting infected by ingesting 1 microbe is not the same as ingesting 1,000,000.

If you walked into a Costco of 999 people all infected with Covid, your chance of infection is much higher than walking into a Costco of 0 people being infected. Is there still Covid in the water particulates in the air? Sure. Probably. I guess.

The more you ingest, the higher likelihood of infection. But getting infected doesn't even equate to death. So the more people we prevent from spreading, the less chance they transmit it, which means transmission results in even lower chance of death. It's a chance resulting from a chance resulting from a chance.

>> No.15506020

>>15506006
I mean or you can literally just go about your life and sometimes wear a small piece of fabric over your disgusting face, but that's apparently either too difficult or too painful for you so I don't know what to tell you anon. Maybe fucking neck yourself because anyone as fragile as you is a waste of space anyway.

>> No.15506036

>>15505012
I mean I probably am
>>15505000
you realize how many girls I've given HPV to and didn't tell them? I don't give a fuck
honestly the kinds of thing's l've slammed my raw cock into it's a wonder the occasional bump is all I get
all these diseases are nothing to me

>> No.15506039

>>15506017
You can't mitigate how many people become infected, only the rate at which they get infected.

>> No.15506054

>REEEEEE THEY WON'T LET ME INTO WALMART UNLESS I'M WEARING A SHIRT THAT DOESN'T SAY NIGGERS ON IT FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS LITERAL VIOLENCE AGAINST ME I NEED MY TENDIES AND MOUNTAIN DEW

this is what you retards sound like. If you just shut the fuck up and went about your lives like normal this shit would be over already because the news wouldn't have any reason to talk about it. The difference between the US and other countries isn't that they all "beat" the virus, they've still got it but they're all living their lives pretty much longer normal because they don't have screeching retards turning the virus into a pointless culture way between pro-government soibois and self-glorified rednecks fighting for their right to consoom without a specific piece of clothing.

>> No.15506059

>>15506039
That was kind of my point, bucko.

Except now you have to factor in how human immune systems work. It's basically the same as, wait for it... vaccines! Being introduced into a controlled amount of the microbe (yeah yeah, the vaccines don't contain live samples), helps build immunity. Being bombarded with the microbes overwhelms the immune system.

It's almost like an endless amount of insignificant amounts of microbes is better than catching the infection and fighting it off the hard way.

>> No.15506078

>>15506039
>You can't mitigate how many people die, only the rate at which they die

We should never do anything to prevent unnecessary death, in fact we should nuke all major cities immediately. Those people were going to die eventually, we just sped it up.

This is how stupid you are.

Also since we've already seen people can get the virus multiple times, yes we literally can mitigate the number of infections. You're chances of dying from the virus in most cases are low, but every time you get it that's another chance to die from the virus. Therefore slowing the rate of infection literally decreases chances for people to die from it.

>> No.15506146

>>15506078
There is zero scientific proof that you can get COVID-19 more than once.

>> No.15506148

>>15506146
Other than the people who've literally done it.

>> No.15506149

>>15506148
Where the proof?

>> No.15506151

>>15506146
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=is+it+possible+to+contract+covid+again

>> No.15506160

>>15506151
All I see is that it’s inconclusive.

>> No.15506168

>>15506160
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200824/study-confirms-its-possible-to-catch-covid-twice

We can dispute the finality all you want. The fact of the matter is that multiple contractions have been reported.

>> No.15506172

I would wear a mask while going through the drive thru but it's too inconvenient having to pull it down all the time to drink my beer.

>> No.15506190

>>15506172
Based roadieposter

>> No.15506264

>>15506160
>There's no proof
>No the fact that it's widely known to be true isn't proof
>The evidence that's easily found with a simple Google search isn't proof
>I need to personally experience the disease at least twice or there is no proof

Jesus christ do you also shove your dick in every electric socket you see since there's no proof that they'll shock you? Normal people who don't eat their own feces are capable of taking some things at face value without needing to see indisputable first-hand proof of it. Doctors have literally no reason to lie about people getting the virus multiple times, stop looking for conspiracies everywhere.

>> No.15506401

>>15504144
Not at all. They are wearing a mask, standing behind a plastic shield, 4 or so feet away, and almost never speak any intelligible words to me. The only risk of infection is on the surface of whatever items they're handing to me. Outside of that nah.

Then again I went hiking in the wilderness a few weeks ago and came across someone on the trail who was hiking with a fucking mask on. I see people driving around in their cars in my neighborhood with masks on their faces. Mask mask mask everyone needs their mask.

>> No.15506562

>>15506401
You wearing a mask is for their benefit, since shit you breathe can go pretty fucking far unobstructed, which can then translate into transmission to the worker, their co-workers, and other customers.

Literally you can just put it on really quick before you roll down your window and take it off again as soon as you're done, it takes no effort and communicates to the worker that you view them as a fellow human being (though somehow I suspect you don't).

>> No.15506597

>leftist larping as a libertarian
Does he think he's actually fooling anyone?

>> No.15506598

this is the most off topic thread on this board

>> No.15506673

>>15506597
Who the fuck are you talking to? Seek help.

>> No.15506691

>>15506673
Take your fucking meds schizo jeez