/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15432990]

how many extra ingredients can you add to a grilled cheese before it ceases to be a grilled cheese?

[Anonymous No.15432998]

playing semantics here but if you add a protein or enough veg. it becomes a melt

Call it what you want and stay tasty, friend.

[Anonymous No.15433000]

>>15432990
1

[Anonymous No.15433004]

>>15433000
>adds pepper
Enjoy you're melt, sir

[Anonymous No.15433011]

Seasoning is fine but when you start adding meat it definitely isn't grilled cheese anymore.

[Anonymous No.15433013]

>>15432990
They're already not grilled, so you lose before you even begin.

[Anonymous No.15433018]

>>15433011
What if I just add bacon bits? I still call that a grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.15433035]

>>15433018
That's a ham sandwich.

>>15433013
the "grill" in grilled cheese refers to a small compartment under the cooktop in old fashioned cookers that you would slide a pan into, acting as kind of a broiler oven.

[Anonymous No.15433039]

>>15433035
Which isn't how they're made.

[Anonymous No.15433055]

>>15433039
which was how they were made, when they were invented. sort of like how mincemeat means raisins now.

[Anonymous No.15433076]

>>15433055
>mincemeat means raisins now.
What

[Anonymous No.15433082]

>>15433055
>mincemeat means raisins now.

[Anonymous No.15433107]

>>15433076
>>15433082
mincemeat was originally just what it sounds like : minced (or ground) meat.
they made little pies with it called mince pies.
then they started adding spiced fruit and nuts to the mince pies to make them more festive.
then at some point they decided the spiced fruit and nuts taste better without the meat, so there is no longer any meat in mincemeat. just fruit and raisins soaked in brandy.

[Anonymous No.15433111]

>>15433107
>mincemeat means raisins now.
heh

[Anonymous No.15433117]

>>15433055
In the end, we return to the original statement. You lose before you even begin.

[Anonymous No.15433122]

>>15433117
The original statement is ignorant to the meaning and the history of the name, and is thereby irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.15433159]

>>15433122
Oh dear. Did your handler call in sick today?

[Anonymous No.15433165]

>>15433159
I'll accept your non-sequitur as concession.

[Anonymous No.15433180]

It becomes its own thing when I add ham, called a "grilled ham and cheese".
I also don't actually grill it, I pan fry it over a heating element, and I use sliced Monterey Jack even though it's not that melty because I like it

[Anonymous No.15433181]

>>15432990
>purist bullshit
You already added bread.

[Anonymous No.15433205]

>>15433181
This

[Anonymous No.15433869]

>>15433181
exactly, serve it like the Czechs do

[Anonymous No.15433924]

>>15433180
>I also don't actually grill it, I pan fry it over a heating element
In older US restaurant lingo, a flat top grill is basically a heating element plus surface (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flattop_grill).). When I was cooking for money long ago, we youths called it the flat top, but old people called it the grill. In fact, the job responsibility was called “working grill”. It’s probably different now.

Grilled cheese to my ear is old lingo. Bread/sandwich is implied, grilled is specified because it’s cooked on the flat top “grill”, not toasted or untoasted, and cheese is the filling. They could probably make more money with “melt” and therefore they did, but you can never delete grilled cheese from the lingo.

[Anonymous No.15433930]

Grilled cheese: bread, cheese, and optional spices/sauces/spreads
Melt: anything more than this

[Anonymous No.15433944]

>>15432990
"Grilled"? That looks fried.

[Anonymous No.15434051]

>>15433055
can't tell if anon is the most retarded person on this board or the new einstein

[Anonymous No.15434183]

i don't know but a little pesto and tomato paste is nice

[Anonymous No.15434199]

Only thing acceptable to add is a fresh tomato slice, besides that nothing.

[Anonymous No.15434239]

>>15433869
Stop eating PUFA

[Anonymous No.15434279]

>>15434239
Stop being a POOF

[Anonymous No.15434440]

>>15432990
>mfw pizza is just grilled cheese with tomato sauce, pepperoni, and missing one loaf

[Anonymous No.15434477]

>>15434051
Go to the old lady aisle of the grocery store and grab a jar of mincemeat.

[Anonymous No.15434684]

>>15433013
>Implying

[Anonymous No.15434700]

Meltfags can fuck off.

My grilled cheese with tuna isn’t a tuna melt.

[Anonymous No.15434704]

>>15434700
Yes it is, smooth brain.

[Anonymous No.15434706]

>>15434704
No it isn’t you clombineruous little twat.

[Anonymous No.15434718]

>>15434706
If your tuna melt is not a tuna melt then what is it? What makes your tuna melt not rise to the level of another tuna melt?

[Anonymous No.15434734]

>>15434718
Because it’s a grilled cheese to which I’ve added tuna. The tuna compliments the grilled cheese. Same reason my grilled cheese with bacon isn’t a bacon melt.

A tuna melt is for someone who wants a tuna sandwich, but grilled and topped with cheese. My sandwich is for the grilled cheese lover who happens to enjoy some tuna.

[Anonymous No.15434736]

>>15434706
>clombineruous
What?

[Anonymous No.15434740]

>>15434734
Would you happen to be a heterosexual man that occasionally sucks penises as well?

[Anonymous No.15434747]

jesus christ favreau

[Anonymous No.15434838]

>>15434740
>projecting
Typical meltfag.

If anything, a melt is a mere subset of grilled cheese. Take away the tuna, and my grilled cheese with tuna is still a grilled cheese.
Take away the cheese, and it isn’t a grilled cheese or a melt.

[Anonymous No.15434859]

What's some stuff you guys put in your tuna melts? I toast the bread, toss a can of tuna in with some mayo, black pepper and sometimes add cheese then toast/broil again.

[Anonymous No.15434872]

>>15434859
Dried seaweed flakes. I also mix them into tuna salad.

[Anonymous No.15434876]

>>15434740
only feminine ones

[Anonymous No.15435500]

who cares bro I just made one with deli meatloaf and spam and it was fire

[Anonymous No.15435557]

>>15433076
>>15433082
Yeah it's a weird british thing. "Mince" means minced (actually ground) meat, whilst "mincemeat" means raisins and shit.

[Anonymous No.15435678]

>>15432990
If you add meat it ceases to be a grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.15435825]

>>15432990
the only extra add on can be tomato..

[Anonymous No.15435866]

My standard grilled cheese is American cheese, onions, bacon, lettuce, kraft parmesan, ketchup and ranch. Oh and it's on rye bread.

[Anonymous No.15435885]

I'm not reddit enough to care.

[Anonymous No.15436058]

your "grilled cheese" is just a croque monsieur without ham

[Anonymous No.15436067]

prapp

[Anonymous No.15436191]

>>15433869
That's a very weird yet good looking smažák, anon. I wonder what the batter and cheese is.

[Anonymous No.15436214]

>>15432990
Once you add meat it becomes a meat sandwich with cheese

[Anonymous No.15436218]

>>15434740
*penes

[Anonymous No.15436260]

Why do Eurotrash eat so much bread?

[Anonymous No.15436269]

>>15436260
its how they have survived for thousands of years

[Anonymous No.15436679]

>>15434700
>>15434734
>combining cheese and fish

[Anonymous No.15436693]

>>15436679
Being an autistic faggot about foods touching

[Anonymous No.15436707]

>>15432990
I love me a grill cheese. With bacon, lettuce, tomato, and turkey on it. Best grilled cheese ever.

[Anonymous No.15437002]

>>15432990
When I was younger and could literally eat anything I wanted without gaining weight, I would swing by Sonics after work and order a grilled cheese with a slice of tomato and bbq sauce and a pack of onion rings. Get that thing home, pop it open, and slide in some onion rings. Never gained an ounce from it. Now I think I gained about three pounds just by remembering I used to do that.

[Anonymous No.15437009]

>>15433924
if you go back farther though, the traditional recipe is you put it on a sheet pan and broil it (under the oven grill)

[Anonymous No.15437015]

>>15436679
for me, it's the filet o fish

[Anonymous No.15437021]

>>15432990
you can only add condiments to it and still call it a grilled cheese. kimchi for example is fine and so would bacon bits be, but as soon as you're adding strips of bacon or a can of tuna you've overdone it

[Anonymous No.15438095]

>>15437009
But in parts of the world that still have grills and don't call them broilers, those are called toasted sandwiches or toasted cheese.

[Anonymous No.15438129]

the only "grilled cheese" is throwing a kraft single onto your six burner weber grill until charred to perfection

[Anonymous No.15438158]

>>15435825
I like honey mustard with it

[Anonymous No.15438175]

>>15432990
>how many extra ingredients can you add to a grilled cheese before it ceases to be a grilled cheese?
Anything other than cheese on the inside, bread shell and butter on the outside (or mayo for the heathens) disqualifies it as a grilled cheese. It stops being a grilled cheese and becomes a melt once anything else is added.

[Anonymous No.15438777]

>>15432990
Grilled cheese=NO RULES.

[Anonymous No.15438779]

>>15438777
Trips of truth.

[Anonymous No.15438780]

>>15433055
>now

[Anonymous No.15438827]

>>15432990
one. and it cant be meat. my personal favorite is roasted poblanos, served with potato wedges and honey mustard. primo.

[Anonymous No.15438849]

>>15432990
It's more about the ratio. If the majority of the sandwich filling is cheese, it can still be a grilled cheese. That's why a patty melt isn't called grilled cheese because it's mostly beef, but if someone ordered a patty melt and you gave them a sandwich that was 90% cheese and 10% beef they probably wouldn't be happy with that.

[Anonymous No.15439758]

>>15432990
When I was sixteen my mom used to date a guy who was an irredeemable asshole - but made a gorgeous grilled cheese.

It had onions, some dried herbs, tomato, s&p, and I honestly haven't been able to recreate it in the 10 years I've had to do it. I'm able to do stuff that's as good as, but never the same. This molded how I view grilled cheeses: it can have as many vegetables as you want, as soon as you put meat, it turns into a myriad of other sandwiches

[Anonymous No.15440590]

>>15434838
You’re wrong because you’re British. Learn to speak proper English you foreigner.

[Anonymous No.15440607]

>>15438827
I really, really, really like this image.

[Anonymous No.15440624]

>>15439758
Tell me, why do you and mother date the same sort of awful men?

[Anonymous No.15441005]

>>15440607
You're right, It is super funny.
Thank you for stopping by!

[Anonymous No.15441018]

Grilled cheese is cheese, with ONE (1) extra ingredient.

Anything else is a melt, or a toastie depending on where you're living.

[Anonymous No.15441044]

>>15439758

I make something similar to that. Cheese (A good melty cheese is best, I usually go 40/60 mozz and extra-mature cheddar for stretch and cheesy flavour), a VERY basic tomato sauce with tomato puree, crushed or grated garlic (garlic powder works too) and basil (Dry basil works) on one slice of the bread, a small amount of pesto on the other, and some basic pizza toppings, pepparoni, ham, peppers, something along those lines, grill that shit, boom, you've got a grilled cheese pizza kinda beat.

If you wanna be a madman you can make a garlic butter to spread on the outside in place of regular butter or mayo to give it that crisp texture, and a bit more flavour.

[Anonymous No.15441050]

>>15438175
>grilled cheese with bacon is a bacon-melt
Nope.

[Anonymous No.15442549]

>>15433930
I'm going to make a grilled cheese melt with bacon and mushrooms and you can't stop me

[Anonymous No.15442558]

>>15433082
>>15434051
You guys just lack functional English literacy and need everything spelled out for you, what he's saying is obvious to everyone who has ever made or used mince"meat".
If you want to see what original mincemeat approximately was just make or buy a pork pie.

[Anonymous No.15442577]

>>15441050
>grilled cheese with bacon is a bacon-melt
More like a toasted bacon and cheese sandwich, unless you want to be a britfag and call it a toastie. It just ain't a grilled cheese.