/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15401752]

If saturated fat is really not bad for you, why does every single medical authority in the entire world recommend eating less of it? I know there are studies that say saturated fat is ok, but most studies say it isn't.

Can someone explain this to me. Is it just a big conspiracy theory in your view?

[Anonymous No.15401754]

>>15401752

[Anonymous No.15401765]

>>15401754
I see..

[Anonymous No.15401907]

>>15401752
It really is a conspiracy. The root of it has always been that they want you to keep eating refined sugars and grains. It's 100% about money for shelf-stable processed junk.

[Anonymous No.15401925]

>>15401752
1. big sugar gives money to "sciencetists"
2. ???
3. benis

[Anonymous No.15401930]

>>15401752
Pork is still unclean

[Anonymous No.15401937]

>>15401907
>>15401925
>The root of it has always been that they want you to keep eating refined sugars and grains.
They also recommend eating less of these, fat retards

[Anonymous No.15401939]

>>15401930
>doctor named Mark Hyman
>not a gynocologist
What a waste of life

[Anonymous No.15401957]

>>15401937
Ketolards are mentally ill, they don't are about the truth, they just want an excuse to keep on chugging lard.

[Anonymous No.15401960]

>>15401752
scientists will never agree on anything.

[Anonymous No.15401975]

>>15401957
>they don't are about the truth
they don't think it be like it is

[Anonymous No.15401991]

>>15401975
But it dont though?

[Anonymous No.15402001]

>>15401752
Just eat everything in moderation and don't worry about studies. Dietary studies are highly unreliable because they almost always rely on self-reporting and there are so many variables that it's impossible to control for all of them.

[Anonymous No.15402007]

>>15402001
>Just eat everything in moderation
dude just eat a little bit of this poison

[Anonymous No.15402022]

>>15401752
an excuse to bring vegetable oil to the market. now, everything is made out of vegetable oil. every junk food, fast food, processed food of any kind, always made out of cheap vegetable oil instead of saturated animal fat.

[Anonymous No.15402023]

>>15402007
No poison on earth is so lethal you cant even eat just a little bit of it.
So yes eat a little bit.

[Anonymous No.15402026]

>>15402022
antisemitic bastard!

[Anonymous No.15402039]

>>15402026
What's the deal with ketotards and conspiracy theories?

[Anonymous No.15402049]

>>15401752
its eass, its bads for you but since its fucking tasty the pol-uted minds on here just declare its good for you.

[Anonymous No.15402065]

food industry hoes mad

[Anonymous No.15402075]

>>15402039
it's a joke, auty

[Anonymous No.15402078]

>>15402039
Yeah its crazy. Just because 90% of the sugar and vegetable oil industry is owned by jews doesnt mean the jews are involved.

[Anonymous No.15402090]

>>15402078
This, pol just blames us for everything.

[Anonymous No.15402119]

>>15402078
It just means you make shit up.

[Anonymous No.15402163]

>>15402022
It's because those fats don't go rancid. It works very well with a non-local, fossil fuel dependent global economy. Real food doesn't. Eat your grains and seed oils! Make the rich richer while you don't even get to own land in your own country anymore!

[Anonymous No.15402181]

>>15402163
>while you don't even get to own land in your own country anymore!
you say that like property tax (rent) is a new thing

[Anonymous No.15402183]

>>15402078
actually 90% of all sugars belong to the republican party. you hate to see it.

[Anonymous No.15402191]

>>15402163
Aww, did the lardass walk by a bakery and get PTSD from seeing all those evil carbs?

[Anonymous No.15402271]

>>15402119
nah he's right. doesnt mean It's a conspiracy though.

[Anonymous No.15402274]

I don't know if it's a conspiracy but there's definitely a push and a lot of propaganda out there to convince people not to eat meats, fats and dairy.

[Anonymous No.15402297]

>>15402274
because they are unhealthy

[Anonymous No.15402301]

>>15402274
mostly because of the environmental aspects these days

[Anonymous No.15402513]

>>15401907
RETARDS will claim it's some big sugar bullshit, even though sugar has been villified more than ever these days

>>15402022
this is the actual reason look up ancel keys, the farm bill of 1970, AHA in 1961
Proctor and gamble unleashed their biggest marketing campaign for vegetable oils
ancel keys conned the AHA into thinking that saturated fats were causing heart attacks even though his evidence was crap
nixon made growing corn the most profitable thing to grow

a real combination of things that are probably not as unconnected as they may seem

[Anonymous No.15402522]

They are erring on the side of caution, the same reason they say your poultry needs to be cooked until it’s dry as a board and that leftovers all must be thrown out after 2 days. They’re trying to protect your average dumb pleb and cover their asses at the same time.

[Anonymous No.15402526]

>>15401937
yeah they “recommend” it yet every single item at the store is now completely fat free and filled with refine sugar and cancerous rapeseed oil. wake up normalfag

[Anonymous No.15402530]

>>15402297
Not really.

[Anonymous No.15402551]

>>15402513
>it's not sugar reeeee
Watch the documentary I posted a pic of instead of talking shit you don't know on the internet, you sugar-guzzling faggot retard

[Anonymous No.15402580]

>>15402551
go back to drinking your candlewax that they tricked you into thinking is edible

[Anonymous No.15402581]

>>15402551
Cry more, retarded fatass. Normal people will not cry like a little bitch at the sight of an ice cream.

[Anonymous No.15402587]

>>15402526
Health organizations are not supermarkets.

[Anonymous No.15402596]

>>15402587
Are you like 13 or something? You clearly don’t understand how the food and health industry works.
“health organizations” lol. Stop talking about shit you don’t know a single thing about.

[Anonymous No.15402675]

>>15402163
This.

[Anonymous No.15402688]

>>15402513
Yeah, it can't be big sugar. Big sugar finally got caught after 50 years! Let's undo that propaganda within 2 years.

[Anonymous No.15402693]

>>15402580
>>15402581
food industry shills absolutely raging itt

[Anonymous No.15402749]

Ever notice how vegans want the same thing as food processor and pharmaceutical companies?

What a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.15402756]

>>15402688
i gave you the actual reason
you think the sugar companies are leading the charge against saturated fats... more than their direct competition (unsaturated fats)? Wow, so not only did vegetable oils manage to beat started to a pulp with their propoganda and become , they even managed to get people to COMPLETELY overlook them and shift the blame to sugar when their propaganda was found out.

Guess it'll be a few more decades before people realize that soybean oil is even worse than sugar and absolutely not a replacement for saturated fats. Till then they'll just cut out sugar, think they defeated their enemy, and go back to guzzling soybean and corn oil.

[Anonymous No.15402767]

>>15402756
Big sugar should have spent their advertising money exposing vegetable oil instead of telling everyone abstract measurements (i.e. calories) make us sick and fat and no particular food is to blame. That was obviously bullshit and makes them look guilty.

[Anonymous No.15402888]

>>15402749
All I notice is the same desperate ketotard in every thread calling everyone a vegan when he gets called out on his bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15402894]

>>15402767
The Italians and French eat quite a bit of carbohydrates and remain slim, juts because you refuse to not eat like a pig doesn't make the laws of thermodynamics any less real.

[Anonymous No.15402936]

>>15401752
Conspiracy? Nah. LDL chlolestorol, which clocks your blood vessels, is mainly produced in your body from saturated fats (and trans-fats). If you eat them in moderation while eating healthy and doing sports to promote HDL cholesterol to counter the LDL one, you're good to go.

>>15402022
Vegetable oils are a mixed bag. While most of them contain unsaturated fats, which are healthy in theory, their Omega 6 : Omega 3 ratio is heavily tilted towards Omega 6, which causes inflammations.

[Anonymous No.15402992]

>>15401752
Saturated fat is fine for you, diet is all about the meta of what you're eating. The bad things are and always will be all grains and artificial sugar. Lose that, live longer, end of discussion. Not up for debate, this is reality.

[Anonymous No.15403017]

>>15402992
>>15402894

[Anonymous No.15403041]

>>15403017
I am aware that other diets exist, those cultures -usually- grow grains in a healthy manner. I import their pasta. I am in a thread full of fucktards on 4chan who don't know that kraft mac and cheese has turmeric in it, I'm not going to break down regional diets that work for 1% of the planet

[Anonymous No.15403047]

if I cook, say, something in a fry pan, should I use olive oil or butter? Which is healthier? I also have sunflower oil.

[Anonymous No.15403064]

>>15403047
It has to do with how hot you're making it, butter and olive oil burn fast and you don't want to heat the oil/fat so much that it burns unless a recipe calls for it specifically for a flavor.

Generally speaking low smoke point shit like butter and EVOO are better for fish and veg, fast cooking stuff, eggs etc. The longer stuff needs to cook the higher smoke point oils you need.

TL:DR Evoo and butter are healthiest when added after the fact, not used as the primary fat to cook with, but it's still always going to be better for you than any 'vegetable' oil, soy oil, canola oil or corn oil. Sunflower at this time is in the middle of the road - as its use goes up the more it will be fucked with by farm companies and it may go the way of soy and corn

[Anonymous No.15403083]

>>15403047
Sunflower oil is a polyunsaturated seed oil fat and should basically never be eaten.

For average frying, I would use butter before olive oil. Butter has a tendency to burn, but olive oil has an even worse tendency to smoke. Most olive oil you'll buy in the stores is probably lower quality than advertised anyways, and it tends to go slightly rancid over time. Frying with a combination of bkth isn't a bad idea. (Personally I fry with butter, tallow, and coconut oil.)

[Anonymous No.15403084]

>>15403041
>Italians and Asians don't get fat from their carb-heavy diets because they "grow grains in a healthy manner"
Smoothest brain I've seen in weeks

[Anonymous No.15403091]

>>15403084
Based retard who doesn't know about corporate farming and pesticides versus local homegrown shit. Go visit Italy some time and see the population that is kept in the stone age for tourist purposes that still stone grind grains faggot

[Anonymous No.15403100]

>>15403091
>pesticides make you fat
Smoothest brain I've seen in the last 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.15403106]

>>15403100
That's not what I was inferring, the thread was about 'bad for you' not fat. Plebbit brainlet conflates being fat with all health problems, not replying to you again

[Anonymous No.15403109]

>>15401752
Because nutritional science is in an infantile state. How much money is invested in actually researching diet vs say cancer therapies? Some jew named Ancel Keys came up with a half baked theory in the 60's and that took off and became the mainstream paradigm. If you want to study nutrition now you're educated into that paradigm. And obiously since you got educated into believing that saturated fat is bad, as well as all your classmates then all educated people will believe saturated fat is bad. And the proof? It's what all the "experts" believe!
>>15401937
They have only just now started recommending less sugar after decades of saying it's harmless and still say your diet should be overwhelmingly "whole grains".

[Anonymous No.15403120]

>>15402163
How long does lard take to go rancid. I have a cauldron full of lard at room temperature. Its been there for over 3 months and it still doesnt smell rancid. Every couple of weeks i cook with it then restore it. It seems like it just gets better and better.

[Anonymous No.15403136]

>>15402301
Why are all these egg head scientists worried about the environment if they all think we live inside a simulation anyways?

[Anonymous No.15403141]

>>15402894
A french pastry is half flour half butter. They fry everything they eat in butter too. Shouldnt they be dying at 40?

[Anonymous No.15403150]

>>15402936
LDL is not a good predictor of cardiac risk. HDL/TG ratio as well as simple waist circumference are much stronger indicators. Half of the patients presenting to the ED with an accute MI have normal and even low LDL levels.

[Anonymous No.15403182]

>>15403109
>Some jew
>opinion discarded
into the trash it goes

[Anonymous No.15403186]

>>15402297
humans are omnivores and the push to eat less animal fat only happened after a company wanted to sell more vegetable oil

[Anonymous No.15403198]

>>15403064
>>15403083
OK. Unfortunate, its the only butters I have. I'm not a fan of lard or anything, actually, I grew up eating stuff overused with lard and I retch at the taste. I think the olive oil I get is real, I did a few tests I found online and it passed.
I don't really cook a lot of meat, the longest thing I cook is maybe pierogies I make, so I'll just keep using butter. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.15403201]

I think there is definitely a benefit of keto and saturated fats that is not appreciated across the medical industry.

But conspiracy theorists, wannabe machos and neo-nazis are deeply paranoid about the medical system for some reason. I guess they don't like the idea of society providing mutual care to its people, especially not a society full of people they hate, and want to find some nefarious plot to emasculate or weaken them.

[Anonymous No.15403223]

The truth is that nobody has any idea about what foods you're supposed to eat, because real scientific experimentation on living human subjects is illegal

[Anonymous No.15403229]

>>15401752
Some want to encourage vegetarian diets for environment

[Anonymous No.15403241]

>>15401752
Read studies before 1957

Carbs = short term energy
Fats = long term energy

[Anonymous No.15403247]

HOW DO I TEST IF MY EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL IS REAL?
FUUUUUCK PEOPLE SAY BY TASTE BUT I'VE TASTED 10 DIFFERENT BRANDS AND THEY ALL TASTE THE SAME

ANYONE USE TERRA DELYSSA EVOO? IS IT ANY GOOD? PLEASE! HELP ME!

[Anonymous No.15403253]

>>15403141
Why should they?

[Anonymous No.15403259]

>>15402183
Jews isn't code for democrats, I hope you're aware of that.

[Anonymous No.15403278]

>>15401752
>why does every single medical authority in the entire world recommend eating less of it?
Because you are eating too much of it, salt is not bad for you either but you should still not eat too much.

[Anonymous No.15403282]

>>15403247
Help me! EVOO chads! I need your wisdom!

[Anonymous No.15403438]

>>15401754
Based answer.

[Anonymous No.15403451]

>>15401754
This. /thread

[Anonymous No.15403459]

>>15403451
Wtf now I love SPLC!

[Anonymous No.15403462]

Because in the 50s big sugar lobbied politicians and scientists to blame fat as the reason why people are unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.15403477]

>>15402181
Rent is not property tax you fucking dipshit.
Occasionally in Europe you read stories about people finding old people that have been dead in their homes for literal decades because they're not paying extra money eternally for something they already own. In America you get behind on your taxes and the government kicks the door in, takes the land you paid for, then sells it to somebody else, then THEY pay eternal property taxes.

[Anonymous No.15403564]

>>15403201
>But conspiracy theorists, wannabe machos and neo-nazis are deeply paranoid about the medical system for some reason.
I'm none of those things and still wary about the medical system because it's a big problem where I live with a lot of doctors acting as nothing more than drug dealers. Unfortunately a lot of doctors are in it just to make money and sometimes the best thing for someone's health isn't what generates the most profit.

You also have things like the American Heart Association being funded by vegetable oil producers so for me that raises some questions about their claims that people should be eating more vegetable oil.

[Anonymous No.15403605]

>>15403247
only buy olive oil that has
>100% California
on the seal, absolutely avoid ANYTHING that is made in Italy, ironically the majority of fake olive oil comes from there

[Anonymous No.15403611]

>>15403605
What about tunisie? that's where this comes from.

[Anonymous No.15403661]

>>15403247
Buy evoo that labels what olive variety it was made of. Buying "just evoo" is like buying "red wine" instead of merlot or cabernet sauvignon.

[Anonymous No.15403673]

>>15403661
aren't black olives just ripened green olives? how many olive types are there?

[Anonymous No.15403769]

Thinking about buying lard to cook with. Problems with lard? This question is directed towards the based folks in here, not the jews, faggots, lobbyists.

[Anonymous No.15403876]

>>15403769
I think lard is fine if you get fresh natural lard, but I'm not sure about the shelf-stable hydrogenated lard that I've only been able to find.

[Anonymous No.15404131]

>>15403769
The first time you use it it smells bad because of the preservatives they put on it. After that it doesnt smell.

[Anonymous No.15404221]

>>15403223
This. And testing on animals, even great apes, is useless because humans have very specific mutations to digest starch or milk.

[Anonymous No.15404416]

>>15403462
That's retarded considering both are seen as bad for you.