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[Anonymous No.15400560]

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This thread is for discussing tea, tea bags, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

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>>15370391

[Anonymous No.15400568]

tea bagger edition

[Anonymous No.15400576]

Waiting for the spring harvest to get underway. What teas are you planning to get this spring?

[Anonymous No.15400584]

perfect way to start the day

[Anonymous No.15400598]

>>15400584
Anyone else mix bone marrow in their tea?

[Anonymous No.15400618]

>>15400598
That could actually be good, if you made a yack butter style tea but with bone broth instead of butter. You would have to use the really thick heavily reduced gelatinous style of broth and not the thin stuff from the grocery store.

[Anonymous No.15400691]

>>15400598
>>15400618
I don't drink tea. what is this and do people drink it?
elaborate plz

[Anonymous No.15400753]

Wu Yi Qi Lan:
nutty and sweet with a fruity aftertaste

[Anonymous No.15400767]

>>15400560
What other tea has high caffeine content that isn’t black tea. And where can i buy good tea

[Anonymous No.15400768]

Who /fresh_cuppa/ here?

[Anonymous No.15400772]

>>15400560
Grandma taught me the secret of pressing the teabag against a spoon after steeping. Before that I was a spastic trying to squeeze it with my fingers.

[Anonymous No.15400793]

>>15400767
Matcha or an extra heavy dosing of a smooth green/oolong can get there

[Anonymous No.15400812]

>>15400767
matcha has a lot of caffeine, or you could also just sprinkle some pure caffeine powder in any other drink
yunnan sourcing, white2tea, what-cha, etc. big cities will probably have local places too

[Anonymous No.15400901]

>>15400772
It's better to not squeeze teabags, it increases bitterness and tannin content in your tea.

[Anonymous No.15400933]

>>15400767
Matcha

[Anonymous No.15401654]

My plans for my next KTM order.
r8, h8, tell me to do better
I liked this last time i tried it
https://kingteamall.com/products/2006-lancang-jing-mai-gu-cha-jingmai-old-tree-tuo-250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
Have not tried this, itching to try a liming production and this looks well aged
https://kingteamall.com/products/2006-liming-qiao-mu-sheng-tai-yin-hao-arbor-organic-silver-hair-tuo-250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
Teas Im on the fence about, advice appreciated
$160 for a kilo of 2004 xiaguan, Im hesitant because it too cheap, I know big Chinese collectors hate nonstandard sizes and shapes of packaging. So that could play a part in the lower price.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/before-2004-xiaguan/products/2004-xiaguan-fu-lu-shou-xi-4-fortunes-brick-250g-4pcs-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea
This was recently restocked after being unavailable for years. I'm worried because it says it's made with 6 year old material, which would be 2006, and I have a hard time believing that any even half decent tea didn't get pressed at the height of the 05-07 price bubble.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2012-xiaguan/products/2012-xiaguan-jin-se-yin-xiang-golden-image-357g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea
This mengku tea is supposed to be one of their highest end productions, the 2011 version is pretty cheap. Anyone out there like post 2009 mengku stuff? I havd a nother 2011 production that I loved, an 88 tribute brick.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2011-mengku-rongshi/products/2011-mengku-rongshi-1974-cake-500g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
what do you guys think?
Should i bet getting changTai cakes instead? Any other recommendations? Any good Liming stuff on KTM?

[Anonymous No.15401709]

>>15401654
I've heard good things about this one, although I have not yet tried it myself
https://kingteamall.com/products/2014-dayi-meng-hai-zhi-xing-star-of-menghai-cake-357g-puerh-shou-cha-ripe-tea

that 2006 lancang tuo you linked sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.15401758]

>>15401709
>that 2006 lancang tuo you linked sounds interesting
It's very good, his description makes it sound a bit flat but it's actually very juicy and had good endurance. I should probably buy a kilo before I talk it up anymore.

[Anonymous No.15401859]

>>15400584
meat bone tea is really the best
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bak_kut_teh

[Anonymous No.15401861]

>>15400767
yerba mate isn't tea, but it tastes a bit similar to green tea. if you brew it the traditional way, it'll be much more stimulating than tea, often even more stimulating than coffee

[Anonymous No.15401863]

>>15400767
yerba and guayusa

[Anonymous No.15402102]

>>15401654
that liming looks very wet to me, it's listed as natural storage, so there might be some dank on it. the leaves look also paper thin.
I remember recommending the 4 fortunes bricks few months ago, maybe to you, because of the Cloud the OG english writing chink praised it. today I'm not so sure, it's probably good tea, but why buy a kilo of samo samo when you can try some different things.
I have 2012 mengku arbor king, which is processed very black tea like, haven't had it in a while but I remember it being tasty, spicy and somewhat different.

of course you should be getting some changtai, even as a samples to feel the waters.
xiaguan hong cha was getting some praise lately, I know I'll be getting it with my next order.
also no love for dayi, no ripes and no liupao, come on.

[Anonymous No.15402133]

>>15402102
Thanks anon
Having a hard time with dayi prices, i was eyeing the 09 special order tuos and they doubled in price since the last time i checked.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2009-dayi/products/2009-dayi-gong-tuo-tribute-tuo-100g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea
But i will take any dayi suggestions.
How did your chempi experiments turn out?
I ordered some today along with my first haiwan ripe from health tea house.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/haiwan-2010-shu-puer-badashan-the-second-batch-ripe-puer-yunnan-pu-erh-tea-357g-p0360.html
Some russian review said this was two grades higher (taste wise) than the 9978 so i decided to give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.15402190]

>>15402133
chenpi will overpower EVERYTHING if you're not careful. if I'm in the mood for some "earl grey" I toss few very small chunks into my "fuck you 1 liter pot" with some ripe and let it steep. I'll drink almost half of it and add water for the second and last time. energizing stuff.
that said I just purchased red tin liupao from three cranes TF which should pair with the citrus nicely. it's pretty potent tea on its own. but like I said, it's not an everyday drink for me, need to be in the medicinal bitter citrus mood. or in need of gut decongestion, if you catch my drift.

as for dayi, I usually look from middle leaf grade ripes from them 5 or 6, at one or two years old they're usually ready to drink.
spring of menghai raws get good press.

have you had classic 8653 xg bing? I have bought 2013 not iron (I don't live in tropics or have a need to fight iron like compression), no FeiTai production and it was worth every of the 15 dollars I paid for it. I call it Kielbasa Tea, because it's so smoky and savoury and salty. I crave it more often than chenpi, but that's my personal taste.
overall 2013 xiaguan lineup looks pretty interesting.

as for haiwan ripe special productions I feel they don't really deliver what I look for in haiwan ripe. which is caramell sweet almost alcoholy fermentation style without ANY bitterness at all. but of course your mileage may vary.

have a good one. cheers.

[Anonymous No.15402430]

Here is a macro shot of a tea seed i from a seedpod on some of my puer

[Anonymous No.15402446]

>>15401654
>big Chinese collectors hate nonstandard sizes and shapes of packaging.
anything else they tend to value less and therefore are better deals?.

[Anonymous No.15402565]

>>15402430
Neat

[Anonymous No.15403351]

nobody sipping? its so quiet here.

[Anonymous No.15403542]

It’s the wrong season for Arnold Palmers, but what the fuck else as I gonna do with leftover cold tea?

Finally finished with the last of the bagged Kusmi Russian breakfast tea. No more cutting the bags open and dumping contents into a strainer for that stuff. Now if I can just finish the containers of Teamonk Darjeeling I have.

[Anonymous No.15403555]

>>15401654
Have some pride and stop drinking chink reject garbage.

[Anonymous No.15403573]

This brand is my go-to. Hard to find in the states, but worth it. Better than Yorkshire Gold imo.
My cuppa:
1. Water immediately at boiling.
2. Steep 3 mins minimum.
3. Squeeze bag.
4. 1 tsp white sugar.
5. Milk until El Goblino color is achieved.
Best cuppa.

[Anonymous No.15403653]

>>15403573
>tested and approved by real builders

[Anonymous No.15403694]

Got these from a colleague. Anyone else tried these?

[Anonymous No.15403727]

>>15400560
last tea thread was cozy. let's keep up vibe.

[Anonymous No.15403753]

>>15403542
>wrong season for Arnie Ps
Blasphemy

[Anonymous No.15404234]

>>15403694
The google translate app will usually give you a decent idea of what the cans say. Had to tell what's inside otherwise. It's probably nice tea.

[Anonymous No.15404429]

>>15403753
It’s nothing to do with the taste. It’s more that drinking iced tea and cool lemonade in the middle of winter makes me feel colder. When I had the last of my iced tea last night, it was just cool from th e fridge, the lemonade was room temp when mixed, and I added no ice.

[Anonymous No.15404445]

Puer lesbians

[Anonymous No.15404633]

pheonix dan cong oolong:
sweet and fruity with a nutty aroma

[Anonymous No.15404645]

>>15404633
>pheonix dan cong oolong:
>sweet and fruity with a nutty aroma
Which variety? which vendor?

[Anonymous No.15404656]

>>15404645
https://www.taotealeaf.com/phoenix-dan-cong-oolong-tea-classic/

[Anonymous No.15404743]

>>15404656
>https://www.taotealeaf.com/phoenix-dan-cong-oolong-tea-classic/
>Other Names: Xing Ren Xiang, Mi Lan Dan Cong
those two are not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15404775]

>>15404234
Good idea, tea is called Siming longjian (四明龙尖). Never heard of it before, I will try it out next week.

[Anonymous No.15404888]

>>15404775
>I will try it out next week.
post an update when you do.

[Anonymous No.15405251]

>>15402430
i have only been drinking puerh for a short while and i have already found a hair, a small stone, a broken part of a branch (not a stem), and a foreign seed. what else have you guys found in your tea?

[Anonymous No.15405272]

>>15405251
won a free hair once, nice and long so hopefully female

[Anonymous No.15405293]

>>15405272
I am a little sad i threw my prizes out. I think i am going to start saving them in a bag from now on so I can have a good laugh at what i have accumulated in a few years.

[Anonymous No.15405543]

>>15405251
I got a little chunk of concrete once, kept it for good luck.

[Anonymous No.15405771]

>>15402446
>>15401654
>big Chinese collectors hate nonstandard sizes and shapes of packaging.
>anything else they tend to value less and therefore are better deals?.
anyone got an answer to this?

[Anonymous No.15405917]

>>15405251
You should avoid puer if you’re a natal woman.

[Anonymous No.15406223]

Coffee drinkers out of Ireland

[Anonymous No.15406355]

>>15405251
Hair, string, foreign plant matter, bits of plastic tarps or sacks. I found a rusted metal nut in a tin of liubao once, and that was loose-leaf.

[Anonymous No.15406377]

>>15405771
Off brands, noname factories, white wrapper teas but those are hard to "discover" in the west because you are buying from resellers, old fakes from the 90s and 2000s when fakes had a chance of being made with good tea.

[Anonymous No.15406472]

>>15405917
why?

[Anonymous No.15406808]

>>15404445
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.15406817]

>>15406472
Can mess with the endocrine system of a small minority of (natal) women.

[Anonymous No.15406819]

>>15405272
anon said he found a finger nail once

[Anonymous No.15408296]

>>15406817
It's a funny meme put pls don't make people think it actually can be bad for them

[Anonymous No.15408357]

>>15406377
any more practical tips for someone who does not live in the east. for example are dayis less famous factory code ripess a better deal? they always seen to be cheaper than the 7572 despite differences in nominal leaf grade.

[Anonymous No.15408456]

>>15408357
Yes the best prices on dayi ripes are some of the 1 or 2 kilo bricks they make. Any of the # recipe ripe cakes other than the 7572 are a much better deal. You don't need to buy aged dayi ripes because they are aged for 2 years or so before pressing, that being said right now in the puer world there are lots of 2010-2017 productions that are cheaper than those made in the last several years, we are in the middle of another price bubble. Other than the dayi silver needle white lotus and maybe the dragon pillar you shouldn't really bother with special edition productions, lots of them are maybe 10%-25% better than standard productions for 50% or more cost.
Also at least according to scott from yunnan sourcing there is very little difference between the first dayi production of a specific year vs subsequent batches. At least post 2008 or so, with some exceptions for specific batches that are known to use different material. So for example don't be afraid to save a few bucks by getting a 2014 batch 1402 or 1403 7572 instead of going for the 1401 batch.

[Anonymous No.15408493]

>>15408456
thanks that's very helpful information
are dayi's cheaper special productions any good? (you can sometimes get some of them for the same price as a factory code)
>we are in the middle of another price bubble
think we are ever going to see the prices drop a bit? also is there a good source of information on the last puerh bubble and crash. I here about it a lot but have not seen a good history of it.

[Anonymous No.15408517]

>>15408493
>are dayi's cheaper special productions any good? (you can sometimes get some of them for the same price as a factory code)
I think most of them are fine and should be similar quality to the factory code stuff.
>think we are ever going to see the prices drop a bit?
The current bubble might burst. More likely it will sort of deflate and prices will stay level for a few years. The general trend is always up up up the prices collectors scoffed at in 2005-2006 as insane would be considered bargains today in many cases.
Not sure of any good resources to read about it. I'm sure it's mentioned in dome articles on teadb.
First big one was 2005-2006 crashed in the middle of 2007. Second smaller one was 2011-2013 or so. Current one started in 2018.

[Anonymous No.15408556]

>>15408517
>The general trend is always up up up
its got to stabilize at some point. a large segment of the market are presumably tea drinkers (probably a majority) and not collectors and i doubt the industry intends to price them out as that would crash the market.

any tips for buying any of the other big factorys stuff?
know of any of the smaller or lesser known factorys that are good value?

[Anonymous No.15408827]

>>15408556
>its got to stabilize at some point
It's really not going to happen anytime soon. The middle class in china is still growing rapidly along with their appetite for luxury goods. Prices won't stabilize until the the Chinese middle class starts to contract.
>know of any of the smaller or lesser known factorys that are good value?
Try Haiwan for an alternative to dayi ripes.
One of our fellow posters always recommends this cake.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g-p0473.html
Haiwan ripes tend to be better after they have had a year or two to air out.
Lots of good cheap xiaguan cakes from 2011-2012
The 2011 golden image is a good one.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2011-xiaguan/products/2011-xiaguan-jin-se-yin-xiang-golden-image-cake-357g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
Another poster has bought a stack of these so they must be decent.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2005-xiaguan/products/2005-xiaguan-t8653-thin-wrapper-cake-357g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
Not exactly cheap but compared to the price of a 7542 from the same year it's pennies.
Also you should definitely try some 2011 or 2012 tea from MengKu RongShi, their productions feel very premium and I'm personally a fan of Lincang / mengku area teas.
Stuff like this brick is still a relative bargain and won't be this affordable in a year or two.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2012-mengku-rongshi/products/2012-mengku-rongshi-qiao-mu-wang-arbor-king-brick-1000g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha

[Anonymous No.15408842]

>>15408827
Also xiaguan especially since 2016 or so has started to produce a decent number of single region or single village cakes. Definitely worth looking at if you decide you like younger raws. The have the big/small/elastic cabbage series (or whatever the fuck they are actually supposed to be called in chinese) and then the five star cakes.
For example you aren't going to find a better price for an old tree banpen village cake anywhere else.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2019-xiaguan-5-star-banpen-gu-shu-raw-pu-erh-tea-iron-cake
Some other good examples
https://kingteamall.com/products/2019-xiaguan-meng-ku-xi-ban-shan-west-half-mountain-of-mengku-200g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2019-xiaguan/products/2019-xiaguan-ma-hei-gong-she-mahei-commune-old-tree-357g-cake-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha-1

[Anonymous No.15409024]

>>15408827
>>15408842
thanks for all the information i will keep it in mind.
>It's really not going to happen anytime soon.
yeah as much as i hate to admit it that's probably true. hope the prices are still somewhat decent in several years when I actually have enough cash to buy the nicer stuff. I just don't want to get priced out of the hobby in the long run. perhaps mechanization and increased plantations will eventually help stabilize the price of things like it has done in Taiwan or Japan. though i think it may be difficult to mechanize puerh production and the supply of old trees is inherently rather inelastic.
>The middle class in china is still growing rapidly along with their appetite for luxury goods. Prices won't stabilize until the the Chinese middle class starts to contract.
a lot depends on what luxury goods the next generation wants to put value on. for all i know puerh speculation is the equivalent of a boomer thing here and most of the zoomers are fine with boba. also there is a lot of current puer tea production is that is already somewhat pricey even from a western middle class perspective. while i am sure on average they take there tea far more seriously there is likely only so much the average person will be willing to pay. as a complete guess i suspect the bigger decider of price is the number of middle class or greater tea enthusiasts who are willing and able to pay more than "just a cup of tea" prices on a regular basis. gift giving and trying to apear cultured may also play a role. Its probably all just wishful thinking on my part because i want the prices to remain lower. honestly i also wish i new more about current Chinese tea culture.

>elastic cabbage
lol

[Anonymous No.15409077]

>>15406817
I couldn't find any studies or papers on this

[Anonymous No.15409103]

>>15409077
He is shit posting

[Anonymous No.15409240]

Is YunnanSourcing.com a reliable tea source?

I hear they test all their tea for all the toxic Chinese pesticides... is it true?

[Anonymous No.15409308]

>>15409240
>Is YunnanSourcing.com a reliable tea source?
Yes
There is also yunnansourcing.us that has less selection but ships domestically.
>I hear they test all their tea for all the toxic Chinese pesticides... is it true?
Yes, but make sure to look for it specifically in the item description of the tea you are looking at, they either Don't test everything or still sell stuff that doesn't pass. They might only test their house brand stuff but I'm not really sure. Anyways you really don't need to worry about pesticides in tea unless you drink gallons a day of the exact same batch.

[Anonymous No.15409314]

rhubarb flavored oolong

[Anonymous No.15409357]

precum seasoned yixing

[Anonymous No.15409372]

>>15409308
>They might only test their house brand stuff

I believe this to be the case.

[Anonymous No.15409441]

>>15409372
>>15409240
is it so hard to visit the website? https://yunnansourcing.com/pages/eu-mrl-compliance-and-yunnan-sourcing-brand-pu-erh-teas
looks like they're released 2020 impression. and it's sticks and huangpian galore plus some dodgy unselled "aged" maocha from previous years. $31. good times are over. watch the reviews for people praising it for mild and sweet flavor.
but then again, "boutique" producers were always a mistake. factory forever.

[Anonymous No.15409488]

>>15409240
>Is YunnanSourcing.com a reliable tea source?
without a doubt. i have purchased from them

>I hear they test all their tea for all the toxic Chinese pesticides... is it true?
they test their house brand puerh but not their full inventory
https://yunnansourcing.com/pages/eu-mrl-compliance-and-yunnan-sourcing-brand-pu-erh-teas
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/yunnan-sourcing-pu-erh-tea

they also have a limited selection of USDA organic stuff. it all comes from the same plantation and i have had of it was good.
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/usda-certified-organic-teas

>pesticides
I am going to be frank that if you will only trust tea that is independently certified organic or pesticide free your selection of high end Chinese tea will be rather limited. there is a greater proportion of Japanese, Taiwanese, Indian, Nepalese, and Sri Lankan tea that is internationally certified organic. On the flip side i have not seen to many worrisome and credible scares around around Tea imported from China. if it was that bad you would expect more of it to have been caught and recalled in western nations. I definitely agree that pesticides are a concern and you should pick your sources with some care but i don't think there is good evidence at the moment to support being to afraid of the consumption of any Chinese tea. China does at least nominally regulate pesticide levels to relatively reasonable limits for many things and have their own organic and semi organic certification's if you trust them. I would think at least the larger more reputable operations are bound by them. as someone who is concerned about the health risks my self i ended up caving and not just drinking organic/tested tea but the choice is yours.

>>15409308
>They might only test their house brand stuff
correct they only claim to test their house brand puer. I wish more of the vendors publicly tested their own stuff (especially W2T because they are big enough i suspect they could).

[Anonymous No.15409564]

>>15409488
>without a doubt. i have purchased from them
oh ok, that clears everything up, thanks.
>they test their house brand puerh but not their full inventory
yeah, I read that 10 minutes ago, thanks for confirming.
>Indian, Nepalese, and Sri Lankan tea that is internationally certified organic
any vendors selling those? post some links please.
>certification's
still having trouble with that apostrophe Rajesh?

[Anonymous No.15409577]

>>15409441
>looks like they're released 2020 impression. and it's sticks and huangpian galore plus some dodgy unselled "aged" maocha from previous years. $31
it looks good to me especially for that price this is not a $200 cake. I am honestly not sure why you even think it looks bad as it looks decent quality to me.
>watch the reviews for people praising it for mild and sweet flavor.
the proof is in the cup after all.
>"boutique" producers were always a mistake. factory forever.
a lot of factory tea is far far rougher than that 2020 impression you where throwing a fit over. and if you want something like a DaYi "7542" it will cost substantially more unless you buy and import in bulk. most of the big factory are trying to push themselves as boutique anyways. there is an entire speculators market around Dayi stuff and the put out a ton of one off "special" editions to try and appeal to that market.

[Anonymous No.15409647]

>>15409577
where do you see yourself on this diagram, Rishit? don't answer ITT, just think for yourself.

[Anonymous No.15409770]

>>15409647
>valley of despair
me before my 1st morning cup of tea
>slope of enlightenment
first 3 infusions
>plateau of sustainability
steeps 6-8
>peak of "Mt. Stupid"
chipping my gaiwan by dropping the lid on it

[Anonymous No.15409814]

>>15409564
>yeah, I read that 10 minutes ago, thanks for confirming.
they had not posted yet when i started writing my blog.

>Indian, Nepalese, and Sri Lankan tea that is internationally certified organic
Here are some options (i have not ordered from them personally and this is not a complete list):
https://www.uptontea.com/teas/c/organic-loose-leaf-tea/pgsize/12/filter/100000000029eq100000000034or100000000042/layout/LIST/
https://www.teabox.com/search?q=organic&type=product
https://www.teatrekker.com/product-category/types/organic-tea/
https://nepalteallc.com/collections/teas

more general vendors for your reference (not necessarily organic):
https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV
https://pastebin.com/twK4E6AM
https://old.reddit.com/r/tea/wiki/vendors/page_01
https://steepster.com/companies
https://ratetea.com/brand.php
https://www.nepaliteatraders.com/pages/faqs (claim organic but do not state which are certified)

>internationally certified organic
I may have slightly over spoke. international organic food trade is a rabbit hole deeper than my spoon. I cant feed you everything. you will have to do some digging about which certifiers you trust on your own as i do not have time to dig more right now.
here is a start:
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/international-trade

>still having trouble with that apostrophe Rajesh?
blame the spell checker.

[Anonymous No.15409826]

>>15409564
>yeah, I read that 10 minutes ago, thanks for confirming.
they had not posted yet when i started writing my blog.

>Indian, Nepalese, and Sri Lankan tea that is internationally certified organic
Here are some options (i have not ordered from them personally and this is not a complete list):
https://www.uptontea.com/teas/c/organic-loose-leaf-tea/pgsize/12/filter/100000000029eq100000000034or100000000042/layout/LIST/
https://www.teabox.com/search?q=organic&type=product
https://www.teatrekker.com/product-category/types/organic-tea/
https://nepalteallc.com/collections/teas
https://www.nepaliteatraders.com/pages/faqs (claim organic but do not state which are certified)

more general vendors for your reference (not necessarily organic):
https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV
https://pastebin.com/twK4E6AM
https://old.reddit.com/r/tea/wiki/vendors/page_01
https://steepster.com/companies
https://ratetea.com/brand.php

>internationally certified organic
I may have slightly over spoke. international organic food trade is a rabbit hole deeper than my spoon. I cant feed you everything. you will have to do some digging about which certifiers you trust on your own as i do not have time to dig more right now.
here is a start:
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/international-trade

>still having trouble with that apostrophe Rajesh?
blame the spell checker.

hope you enjoy you tea

[Anonymous No.15409872]

>>15409826
>Indian, Nepalese, and Sri Lankan tea that is internationally certified organic
none of these sties have a link to the copy of certificate like yunnan sourcing does, only some pictogram/icon next to the name of the tea, anybody can paste that on their webzone. why should I believe them?

>I may have slightly over spoke.
you might have

>blame the spell checker.
nah, I'd rather blame a lazy half literate poster

>hope you enjoy you tea
I do. you enjoy you tea two.

[Anonymous No.15409875]

Organic don’t mean shit. Just a way to get gullible whites to pay more

[Anonymous No.15410006]

>>15409875
Organic is a hit or a miss these days. Some growers follow regulations and guidelines, others skim around the bush just to get a passing grade. Companies are known to "prove" they're organic when the auditers come through for that particular day. The moment they leave they go back to the old non-organic methods and then label it Organic.

It's a sad reality behind the modern world.

[Anonymous No.15410157]

>>15409872
>none of these sties have a link to the copy of certificate like yunnan sourcing does, only some pictogram/icon next to the name of the tea, anybody can paste that on their webzone.
If you insist on seeing the certification you could email them.

> why should I believe them?
The reason you should consider trusting them is that most of those vendors are in the US, and therefore don't want to get in trouble with the USDA for misusing its symbol. If you think they are faking it why don't you go ahead and report them.

>you might have
Would you prefer that I do not clarify my statements?

>nah, I'd rather blame a lazy half literate poster
If you consider minor typos and grammatical mistakes as evidence of illiteracy then your last post proves that you to are illiterate. I, however, consider such a standard nonsensical.

>I do. you enjoy you tea two.
If i knew that mistake would bother you so much I would have deleted that post and fixed the typo.

Don't you have better things to do than to try to drag others down?

[Anonymous No.15410198]

>>15410157
Someone’s had too much puer today and is feeling reckless. Please don’t take it out on your poor enbie gf later

[Anonymous No.15410215]

>>15410157
Ok chud

[Anonymous No.15410238]

>>15409441
Yeah it was over as soon as they started releasing a spring impression series. No way they could leave an extra $30 per cake on the table.

[Anonymous No.15410253]

leave the poor discord reject alone
>>15410238
2019 impression looks a bit better than 2020 but you might be right.

[Anonymous No.15410294]

>>15409872
you're such a dick dude, this guy is genuinely trying to help you. Is tea all you have in life?hahahha no wonder people associate teafags with pretentiousness.

[Anonymous No.15410318]

>>15410294
here's your (You), now fuck right off
>trying to help you
you have to go back, try to understand.

[Anonymous No.15410353]

>>15410294
Pretentiousness and Lesbianism are incredibly prevalent in the American tea subculture. In college, my sociology professor wouldn’t let me do a research project examining LGBT people and their role in popularizing modern tea culture. It was going to be a positive thing about how alphabet folks are on the cutting edge of things that often become part of the broader cultural zeitgeist. Said it could be misconstrued by bad actors.

[Anonymous No.15410412]

>>15410353
>bad actors
https://www.twodogteablog.com/2015/03/12/puer-tea-urban-chic-and-the-wild-west/

excuse my secondary source but your professor was probably right. also lol puer lesbians.
also https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Jinghong+Zhang%2C+University+of+Washington+Press%22

[Anonymous No.15410857]

>>15409357
is that like the virgin boy egg of the tea world?

[Anonymous No.15411287]

>>15410857
Nah, that's that tea that's mixed with honey and herbs and then left to be eaten by bugs, then the brew the insect frass (poop) and drink that.

[Anonymous No.15411298]

>got biology degree
>did nothing with it
>years later becoming interested in teas
>suddenly my degree is useful to me
how should i take it further?

[Anonymous No.15411341]

>>15411298
Get a phd in organic chemistry.

[Anonymous No.15411450]

>>15411287
honestly that sounds a lot less vile. I would drink it.

[Anonymous No.15411615]

>>15403573
Todays builders are getting lattes from Gregg's with their vegan sausage rolls.

I've decided my next tea purchase will be Typhoo tea. I'm currently enjoying three cups of Yorkshire tea a day as part of my pint of milk a day routine.

[Anonymous No.15411625]

>>15411450
>I would drink insect shit
What’s wrong with teafags?

[Anonymous No.15411760]

>>15411298
go into food science. there is a lot of interesting chemistry around food and i suspect there are at least some jobs. you could also try and go into fermentation science.

[Anonymous No.15411878]

Persian tea is the best. Their women are hottest. Chink tea is for niggers.

[Anonymous No.15411925]

>>15411450
>honestly that sounds a lot less vile. I would drink it.
Go for it friend
https://www.chawangshop.com/2005-sichuan-chong-shi-cha-25g.html
https://www.yunnancraft.com/en/heicha-guangxi/2001-guangxi-liubao-chong-shi-cha

[Anonymous No.15412030]

>>15411925
I already knew about it before this thread I just have not got around to trying it yet. when i put an order at shop that has some i will pick some up (i don't order a lot of tea so that may take some time). my first impression when i heard about it in the past is it would be fun to try and make some myself with mint leaves or something but i don't have time right now.

[Anonymous No.15412040]

>>15411878
sandnigger detected

[Anonymous No.15412116]

>>15412030
Why would you wanna drink bug shit though?

[Anonymous No.15412118]

>>15412116
you WILL drink the bug shit

[Anonymous No.15412247]

>>15412116
because it sounds like an interesting way modify plant material and i would be curious as to what effect it has on the taste. caterpillar frass is ground up partly digested plant material. I already drink composted tea (shu puer) i don't think this is all that different. it just does not strike me as gross in the same way say mammalian feces are and i doubt most caterpillars host pathogenic bacteria strains in their GI that are likely to effect humans.

[Anonymous No.15412274]

gween tea

[Anonymous No.15412507]

>>15412247
>this amount of mental gymnastics to justify being a copraphage
Maybe you just like eating shit bro. No kink shaming here

[Anonymous No.15412781]

I'll admit that I bought this mostly because I really like the shape

[Anonymous No.15412836]

>>15412781
It’s the shape of a penis head

[Anonymous No.15413339]

>>15412781
I liked these
but they taste similar to dirt

[Anonymous No.15413576]

>>15413339
I agree the level of fermentation is very heavy on those

Also they're a bitch to take apart as they're compressed so tightly

[Anonymous No.15413990]

I burned my tongue by eating too much sour candy. No i won't be able to taste my tea for a week until it heals.

[Anonymous No.15414173]

>>15413576
protip garden secateurs

[Anonymous No.15414444]

>>15413576
i used my tea pick and then hammerd it in
easy

[Anonymous No.15415524]

i have this chinese tea and the instructions tell me to steep it first for 2 mins at 80°c and 4 respectively 7 minutes for the second and third steeping. wouldn't it make more sense to just take one third of leaf and then steep it once for 13 minutes?

[Anonymous No.15415611]

>>15415524
over steeping will make it taste unpleasant, using less leaf will make it weak. its better to use more leaf and shorter steeps with repeated steeping, the taste will also change from steep to steep

[Anonymous No.15415648]

>>15415524
what kind of tea?

[Anonymous No.15415898]

>>15415611
isn't there a lazy man's path to tea bliss?

>>15415648
oolong

[Anonymous No.15416086]

>>15415898
some teas are far more resistant to over steeping
you can just brew your teas 'grandpa style'

[Anonymous No.15416199]

Oolong tea is so great, I'm surprised I didn't know about it until recently.

[Anonymous No.15416403]

>>15403573
I get it off amazon. Some bongs apparently don't like the taste but I think it's good. It's not a fine cup of Earl Grey and you need to know this before going in.

[Anonymous No.15416419]

>>15416199
That is surprising. Are you a slow in the mind? Never been to a sit down Chang restaurant?

[Anonymous No.15416427]

>>15416419
rude

[Anonymous No.15417015]

'sup bitches

[Anonymous No.15417092]

Thinking of buying this, thoughts?

https://ippodotea.com/products/organic-genmaicha

[Anonymous No.15417283]

>>15417092
Hell yeah, ganmacha is fantastic. The combination of the toasty rice flavor with the green tea flavor is great. The only tip i have about genmatcha is to avoid the stuff that has matcha powder in it, but the one you posted doesn't. Also if you like it you can probably get larger quantities cheaper from one of the sellers in japan, but that one looks high quality so the price is probably fair.

[Anonymous No.15417303]

>>15417092
Also if you like roasted flavors consider grabbing some hojicha as well. They have a version that's just stems which would make a good low caffeine evening tea and you can simmer some in a big pot for 10 or 15 minutes to make a bunch of smooth tea for comfy winter sipping.

[Anonymous No.15417378]

>>15417303
>>15417283
thank you so much for this information and the inspiration, specially you >>15417283

[Anonymous No.15417383]

>>15417283
>you can probably get larger quantities cheaper from one of the sellers in japan
oh like which one?

[Anonymous No.15417423]

After some taste tests; Jinxiu Longzhu is really not my beat, dian hong gong fu is good but not great, lao shu dian hong is by far my favorite of the tried.

I got the Jinxiu Longzhu from seven cups so I'm still open to and looking for puer suggestions but not that one. My problem was the earthy overtone of the tried.

Any suggestions for peur or black based on that?

[Anonymous No.15417603]

>>15417383
This does have a much higher rice to tea ratio. Also it depends on what shipping options they have right now. If it's still limited to DHL shipping only then it only makes sense to make larger orders because it will cost $20.
https://www.o-cha.com/organic-genmaicha.html

[Anonymous No.15417728]

>>15417423
This tea?
You found it earthy?
https://sevencups.com/shop/jinxiu-longzhu-big-tree-dragon-ball-2020/
It a young sheng shouldn't be earthy, but it certainly can be.
Suggestions
Get a sample of this, it's not puer but it's good, creamy.
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/hei-cha/products/2009-gao-jia-shan-wild-fu-zhuan-hunan-brick-tea
Raw Puer
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/xiaguan-tea-factory/products/2006-xiaguan-dali-tuo-raw-pu-erh-tea-in-box
Or this one if you like smoke
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/xiaguan-tea-factory/products/2013-xiaguan-chen-yun-fang-cha-raw-pu-erh-tea-brick
Get a sample of this
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/2014-yunnan-sourcing-impression-raw-pu-erh-tea-cake
A sample of this
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/hai-lang-hao-brand-pu-erh-tea/products/2014-hai-lang-hao-glorious-years-bu-lang-raw-pu-erh-tea-cake?variant=36508789244063
This is probably decent
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/feng-qing-tea-factory/products/2007-feng-qing-gold-ribbon-tuo-raw-pu-erh-tea
If you are really feeling brave get a sample of this
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/hunan-fu-brick-tea/products/2017-yun-tai-mountain-sentinel-mountain-fu-zhuan-brick-tea?variant=36508940796063
If this is too much i would recommend getting the raw samples and one of the xiaguan factory teas i linked.

[Anonymous No.15417967]

Hey anon, that tea care package is going out on Tuesday, i emailed you the tracking #

[Anonymous No.15418279]

>>15417967
You two are so cute its unbearable.

[Anonymous No.15418474]

to the poster who said they where considering getting some tea from the Phoenix Collection: did you go through with it? no pressure just curious.

[Anonymous No.15418530]

>>15418474
Nah i haven't yet, minimum order of $50 so I'm still trying to decide if i feel like gambling with an $80 or $90 order. Also trying to decide if i really want to spend half an hour on the phone with some old boomer from cali to try and get some suggestions out of him. I will definitely post about it if i decide to do it.

[Anonymous No.15418567]

>>15418530
I did print out his tealist and make some notes on what i was interested in, i was planning on dropping $150 or so until i saw the complaints about his tea by marshalln. I still probably will get a few things, these is just so much other tea that i want right now.

[Anonymous No.15418652]

>>15418530
while if you decide to take the risk i look forward to hearing about it.

Here is some more stuff about him:
https://youtu.be/prx0ji1yZJ8?t=969
https://thephoenixcollection.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/a-life-of-tea-fresh-cup.pdf

[Anonymous No.15418881]

>>15418652
Thanks for the links anon

[Anonymous No.15418917]

>>15411341
what is the benefit of a phd in organic chemistry

[Anonymous No.15418936]

>>15418917
The Chinese will give you tons of grant money to crank out low quality research papers on tea and to be a "professor" they can use as another white person on their university's marketing materials.

[Anonymous No.15418941]

>>15418936
what if im not white?

[Anonymous No.15418957]

>>15418941
I'm just fucking around, I'm not really sure how much demand their is for organic chemistry in the tea industry. I doubt there is enough grant money to make a career out of tea research.

[Anonymous No.15418963]

>>15418957
genuine question though i see phd in chemistry being shilled but nobody ever says why

[Anonymous No.15418971]

>>15417283
>avoid the stuff that has matcha powder in it

why?

[Anonymous No.15418991]

>>15418971
If there is matcha powder added to genmacha it probably isn't very high quality. It also will probably make the tea taste bitter which doesn't go well with the smooth relaxed experience that drinking genmacha should be.

[Anonymous No.15418992]

>>15418917
1. become a petrolatum engineer
2. make fat stacks of cash
3. buy as much tea as you want
4. profit??

[Anonymous No.15419006]

>>15418991
ah, okay. I've only ever tried pic related which has matcha powder in it. I did like it and didn't find it bitter but now I'll have to try one that doesn't have matcha

[Anonymous No.15419024]

>>15418992
*petroleum not petrolatum
also big pharma

[Anonymous No.15419623]

>>15415898
Just steep everything for 6 min. Fuck everyone else; go with the ISO 3103 guidelines.

Speaking of which, bought pic related and some Irish breakfast tea Friday.

[Anonymous No.15419695]

>>15419623
Based, report back on what actually using the tea tasting set is like. What's the usable brewing volume?

[Anonymous No.15419732]

>>15417092
They have a tea house in New York City I went to and fell in love with this tea. Ended up waiting until it was expired to crack into it, and it still tasted great.

[Anonymous No.15419738]

>>15419695
> The volume of the infuser cup is a standard 150 ml.

Less than half of what I usually drink. I typically drink from the large coffee mugs (guessing 12oz; away from my mugs atm).

Was cleaning out my new electric tea kettle at my in-laws this evening. Wife tells me to rinse it good cause “youndont know what kind of chemical shit they left on at the factory”. Mother in law offers me Odo-Ban (pet stain cleaner) to rinse with. Just....

[Anonymous No.15419916]

>>15419738
Yeah i boiled some coffee machine cleaning solution in my kettle to descale it after about a year of use. I mist have rinsed and washed it out 5 times afterwards to make sure all that crap was gone. They i boiled and discarded a few batches of water. Totally unnecessary but it made me feel better.

[Anonymous No.15419938]

>>15400560
Tea arose in the UK because of the devastating poverty. Re-using teabags and the like. It's boring brown water for the most part, but it became a staple.

[Anonymous No.15419965]

>>15419938
what are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.15419966]

>>15419965
Truth. Most of the UK were wage slaves when tea became popular. They needed something other than gruel to eat and drink.

[Anonymous No.15420065]

>>15419966
this is laughably stupid

[Anonymous No.15420086]

>>15420065
It's fun to pretend otherwise. This was back when everyone lived in poverty and mined copper to survive.

[Anonymous No.15420112]

>>15420065
Sorry, they mined tin as well.

[Anonymous No.15420853]

young sheng grandpa style. thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15420924]

>>15419916
use citric acid for descaling: its food safe, you can often find it at your grocery store (canning section), its cheap, it does not have a hard to remove smell like vinegar, it can help prevent corrosion and rust in stainless steels (passivation), and its effective (active ingredient in many commercial descaling solutions).

[Anonymous No.15421609]

>>15420853
sounds harsh but it may work with the right tea. perhaps you could fiddle with water temp but that would partially defeat the purpose of grandpa style brewing. why don't you try it and report back if you are so interested?

>>15414444
>just hammer it in
the most sacred quads have shared their wisdom!

[Anonymous No.15421616]

>>15420924
Secondig that

[Anonymous No.15421627]

is there such a thing as good decaf green tea?

[Anonymous No.15421659]

>>15421627
>decaf tea
>good

not really the process used to decaffeinate the tea affects the flavor and is generally only performed on lower quality tea. perhaps look into jujube leaf tea "Gan Zao Ye" or other herbals.

https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/all/wild-jujube
https://verdanttea.com/spring-wild-laoshan-gan-zao-ye-ziziphus-jujube-leaf-herbal-tea
https://www.whisperingpinestea.com/products/wildcrafted-jujube-leaf-spring-2017

[Anonymous No.15421674]

Help me /tea/ I feel like a retard, how am I supposed to take apart/brew these waffle cakes and also many minis from white2tea? I just had pic related and the cubes only fully came apart 10+ steeps in, even with me picking at them in between brews. Should I just

>have a couple minute-long steeps at the start?
>use a puer pick?
>only brew this tea western/grandpa style?
>not care that they only open up after 10+ steeps?

I just went for the last option and used regular gaiwan steeping times (10s +5 consecutively) and to be fair the taste was good, but it just feels wrong that after like 8-9 steeps the leaves at the centre are still completely dry

[Anonymous No.15421683]

if there was one book on tea a tea drinker should read, which one would that be?

[Anonymous No.15421696]

>>15421683
probably pic related

[Anonymous No.15421735]

>>15421674
>have a couple minute-long steeps at the start?
using one longer (1-2 minute depending on level of compression) steep at the start can work well.

>use a puer pick?
splitting the tea from the side with pick or other sharp object would likely help.

>only brew this tea western/grandpa style?
that should not be necessary.

>not care that they only open up after 10+ steeps?
it that works for you.

>regular gaiwan steeping times (10s +5 consecutively)
those are just a baseline to get you started you should modify them to taste for each tea.

another thing you did not mention is if you "rinse" the tea and leave the tea to sit for a while before you use it to brew it will partially open up.

just try and find what works for you.

[Anonymous No.15422290]

Electric tea kettle seems to think black tea should be steeped at 212 F. Not sure I’m gonna use that setting. Mostly been using water that’s 195 F cause that’s the temperature I have. the hot water heater set to.
Also may have f’ed things up cause I put the tea leaves in then let the water boil. New device mistakes.

[Anonymous No.15422351]

>>15421683
For those who read french, I'd advise
>Le guide de dégustation de l'amateur de thé
Not that I read any other ones, but it talks about how teas are grown and processed, how to better at tasting sessions, what are the main styles of the main regions, how to brew them and what to expect. Haven't read it all, I began by brewing and styles, now reading the tasting part.

[Anonymous No.15422429]

>>15422290
>black tea should be steeped at 212 F
thats the normal temp for black tea.

>I put the tea leaves in then let the water boil.
you are not putting tea in your electric kettle right? you are generally not supposed to use an electric kettle for anything other than heating water. you can boil certain types of tea on a stove top kettles but its not the typical way for making most teas.

[Anonymous No.15423137]

>>15421674
I don't have the moon waffles but I do have the Gelange White from one of the tea clubs last summer, less buds but also pressed into the waffle pattern.
What I've found to help is after the rinse of first steep leave the top on the gaiwan to steam the cube for a couple minutes.
This helps it open significantly where its easier to separate the leaves.

[Anonymous No.15423256]

>>15412781
>Oy vey, how did I miss those delicious foreskins!!?

[Anonymous No.15423545]

>>15415898
i'm lazy and i use pic related strainer that fits over a normal mug and steep for 3-5 mins. usually do it twice with the same leaves, and since it's a normal sized cup i don't need any more tea than that

[Anonymous No.15423983]

>>15422429
> you are not putting tea in your electric kettle right?

Yeah, I screwed that uo. Tea from the top of the kettle tasted all right, but once I got down to the bottom of the kettle, it tasted like the burnt ice tea I’ve had from fast food places.

[Anonymous No.15424801]

>people unironically think tea drunk is a thing

[Anonymous No.15424926]

Is taiwanese oolong good? Is the super green stuff actually tasty or is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.15424960]

>>15424926
nothing taiwanese is good

[Anonymous No.15425966]

I forgot about chinese new year and made a few tea orders that won't ship for another two weeks.

[Anonymous No.15426374]

With the new EU tarrif enforcement, and britain leaving the EU i need to split the EU and england vendors section, i will probably also move a list of at least some EU vendors into the main pastebin. Please recommend any EU or england based vendors that you think are up to the standards of the pastbin. I generally look for vendors that have dates on all their looseleaf tea and that aren't selling weird questionable looking puer.

[Anonymous No.15426403]

>>15421683
ISO 3103

[Anonymous No.15426413]

>>15421696
Based puer lesbian

[Anonymous No.15426705]

anyone thought of owning their own tea joint?

[Anonymous No.15426750]

>>15426705
Yeah but then I realized I’ll never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.15426766]

>>15426750
I'm glad you realized that, but what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.15426829]

>>15426705
it sounds comfy until I realize I'll have to deal with annoying hipsters and yuppies all day long. don't really want turquoise haired gender neutral sjw's sitting in my little tea shop all day complaining about oppression on their macbooks. but outside of cancerous cities filled with such fags there probably isn't enough of a population density to keep a tea joint profitable

[Anonymous No.15426832]

>>15426766
The tea industry is gynocentric.

[Anonymous No.15426855]

>>15426829
that's because tea is for gay little faggots

[Anonymous No.15426861]

>>15426829
maybe you gotta add food and other types of beverages and put it in a location where there's alot of asians or brits

[Anonymous No.15426870]

>>15426861
or in the gay district. asians wouldn't buy tea from a fag

[Anonymous No.15426881]

>>15421674

His waffle cakes are compressed like motherfuckers. I go in with the picks from the side 2-3 steeps in to separate out all of the layers.

[Anonymous No.15427020]

So I'm thinking i like tiawan storage based on my order from teas we like. Anyone know of any other online shops based in taiwan that sell puer?

[Anonymous No.15427205]

>>15426705
I had a good interview with a local tea shop a few days ago and will likely start working there. Not quite sure what to expect in terms of people, but the tea they serve is legit.

>>15424926
It's fine, but real niggas prefer dong ding.

[Anonymous No.15427262]

>>15409872
Relax a little, buddy. No one's attacking you.

[Anonymous No.15427502]

>>15422290
i like my blacks at 90c(195f)

[Anonymous No.15427507]

>>15424801
it is, hard to get but i've felt it multiple times

[Anonymous No.15427634]

I spent about 80€ on matcha a month. I think I have a problem.

[Anonymous No.15427644]

Can’t go past ginger and lemongrass after food for digestion

[Anonymous No.15427702]

>>15427634
Based, gotta love that electric green color

[Anonymous No.15427850]

Why aren't herbal teas more popular? Just a lack of marketing because there isn't much money to be made?

[Anonymous No.15427860]

>>15426829
I frequent tea shops in a big city and these are your clients, I'm sorry. I can wear headphones and ignore their bullshit, but it IS mostly gays, trans, jobless rich hippies talking about soul searching tourism, and people trying to scam others with every alternative health, religious or energy based hoax on earth.

The straights are obsessed with only drinking alcohol and manly coffee for manly men and will only visit your place when dragged in by their weird friends. Asians don't seem to frequent them at all even when they're located in asian neighborhoods, probably prefer to drink their tea at home.

[Anonymous No.15427869]

>>15427850
Sticking random plants in hot water doesn't generally taste very nice

[Anonymous No.15427872]

>>15427860
which one of the faggots in your blogpost are you? no self respecting man should enter a tea shop, much less frequent one

[Anonymous No.15427889]

>>15426705
I'd like to share my tea with people, but most folks would just dump sugar or milk or lemon into it without even tasting it first, so I won't

[Anonymous No.15427900]

>>15427872
Obviously a faggot. Insecure little boys like you can keep autistically drinking puer in their home in secret, least the masses notice you enjoy things that aren't sports based, the tragedy.

[Anonymous No.15427943]

>>15427889
>grow up in the south
>only knew tea as a sugar filled drink, like a shitty version of soda
misery

[Anonymous No.15427976]

>>15427943
>Grew up in latin america
>Only knew tea as chamomile and spearmint
At least it could have been a mate drinking country, but no.

[Anonymous No.15428220]

>>15427850
>Why aren't herbal teas more popular?
they are incredibly popular there is a selection of them in every supermarket. I think the better question is why higher end herbal teas processed with the same care as and attention to detail of premium tea proper are so rare. most herbal teas seem to be made of low end mass agricultural ingredients.

[Anonymous No.15428254]

>>15427850
>Why aren't herbal teas more popular?
they are incredibly popular there is a whole selection of them in nearly every supermarket. I think the better question is why higher end herbal teas processed with the same level of care as premium tea proper are so rare. most herbal teas seem to be made of low grade mass agricultural ingredients.

[Anonymous No.15428307]

>>15428254
one reason might be that the people that are into "premium tea" generally dont want to drink herbal teas / tisanes, and prefer "true tea" or something like that

[Anonymous No.15428387]

>>15428307
I agree that is part of it. i wounder if the issue does not partially predate that. perhaps tea culture became so sophisticated in part because tea has useful psychoactive (caffeine) effects and that really kick started its popularity.

as a side note verdant tea stocks some neat herbal teas proceed like a green tea. i have not tried all of them yet but the few i had seemed decent. unfortunately they are often only a limited selection in stock at a given time.

https://verdanttea.com/tea/by-tea-type/herbal

[Anonymous No.15428502]

>>15427507
I'm curious about this, do you just need to drink a lot of Pu-erh or Matcha to get it?

[Anonymous No.15428704]

>>15421735
>>15423137
>>15426881
cheers for the tips, glad I'm not the only one struggling with them

Speaking of W2T, I've now had a couple sessions of pic related and it's pretty nice. Sometimes very young raw can be pretty funky or super bitter, but this tastes very well balanced in a 'green' sort of way. I get almost no bitterness or astringency, and a light fermentation. The returning sweetness also lingers really long after drinking.
Sceptics might call the taste weak, but I like the greenish roundness.

[Anonymous No.15428940]

>>15428704
>Sceptics might call the taste weak
honestly i don't like to drink super harsh young sheng. you have to really baby them when brewing to get something that tastes remotely decent. perhaps they age well but i am not sure i would buy a harsh young sheng to drink fresh.

[Anonymous No.15429583]

>>15428502
Whenever I've experienced it, it was from drinking large volumes of puer (which is fermented after all), for instance doing a solo session with a 150ml gaiwan 8-9 steeps

Also I'd say high is a better description than drunk, but never very heavily, just as if you'd only taken a few puffs of a joint and get slightly woozy/lightheaded/relaxed

[Anonymous No.15429835]

>>15428704

That would be interesting to do side by side with the 2018 Pussy I have, which is very green but not mild at all. Brewing it perfectly produces a really nice musty-hay-bale-steaming-in-the-morning-sun taste but it can pretty easily be understeeped to just taste "green" and oversteeped to go unpleasantly astringent.

[Anonymous No.15429852]

>>15429583
That’s just the puer fucking up your endocrine system.

[Anonymous No.15429934]

>>15429835
>2018 Pussy
anon what are you doing that's way too young!

[Anonymous No.15429960]

>>15429934

>heh

>>15429835

I'm gonna crack into some here, actually. Using 6g/100ml and going to go for boiling water to really try to push that musty hay taste, and will just have to be careful with my timing to not overdo it. Dry leaves smell like clover honey.

[Anonymous No.15430027]

>>15429960

Dry leaves warmed in the gaiwan continue that clover honey aroma but immediately turn deep and musty when wetted, with a slightly sharp, green smell as well.

[Anonymous No.15430102]

>>15430027

First steep was a few seconds longer than a flash steep but was much milder than I expected. This is my first time having any in a few months, I thinkc, and I'm wondering if it's starting to mellow out. The liquor is a warm goldenrod and had none of the bitterness or astringency in it, but rather, small hints of cinnamon, cardamom, vanilla, and wet hay.

I usually do second steeps shorter since the first is loosening up the cake, but I kept this at the same time to try to push it a little more. This steep went a little further in the direction of musty hay with a bit of astringency, and had the vanilla drop off, but the cinnamon and cardamom are still present when you suck the tea through your teeth.

Third steep I did for the same time again to see if I couldn't get it to back off just slightly from its harsher edges. I think I got it just about perfect on this one. Astringency is present in small amounts, just enough to slightly dry the tongue. Wet hay is there but not in such a degree that it completely takes over everything else, so I'm getting a nice balance of sweet and spiced and savory.

I'm going to keep it going and report back at steep 9 or 10 or so.

[Anonymous No.15430524]

>>15427943
I think Orwell was right; sugar in tea ruins the tea and makes it into something else.

Of course the Southerners take that and add enough sugar to make tea into Kool Aid.

[Anonymous No.15430785]

loving pickwick fruit fusion i recommend the orange flavour

[Anonymous No.15431146]

>>15426705
I’d rather do something that looks like it came out of Victorian London.

[Anonymous No.15431751]

>>15431146
I think the dirt floor would not be up to code.

[Anonymous No.15431939]

Anon from the last thread who said they'd try out a month of the W2T club after seeing my bamboo shou post - this coming month seems like it's going to be interesting. He just posted "been a long time since I put liubao in a tea club" as the caption for a picture of tea leaves that look completely unprocessed except for drying. If they didn't look like tea leaves I would have guessed he was making a joke about his yard waste. Curious to see how that ends up.

[Anonymous No.15431961]

Why are /tea/ gens always infested with mentally ill shitposting jerks? Like I just want to discuss tea, not /pol/ tier schizo stuff.

[Anonymous No.15432059]

>>15431939
Oh shit, liu bao is great, thanks for reminding me to order some more.

If anyone is looking for liu bao to try are live in the US here are some suggestions
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/2005-si-jin-quan-four-gold-coins-liu-bao-tea
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/2006-wild-bamboo-column-liubao
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/zhong-cha-china-tea-wuzhou-liu-bao-sampler
The four gold coins especially is a very famous production, essence of tea was also selling it but they are out now.

[Anonymous No.15432099]

Are some teas just better suited to brewing using the gongfu method than others, or can you make any tea "work" using the gongfu method? I typically brew tea the western way and I'll occasionally bust out my gaiwan for oolongs and puerhs, but I feel like I'm wasting an opportunity to enjoy my other teas this way. Like I just got some really nice Japanese green teas in the mail but anytime I've used my gaiwan for Japanese green teas they come out either terribly bitter or pretty weak. Am I just a gongfu noob or are there some teas that are better suited for other brewing methods other than gongfu?

[Anonymous No.15432101]

If you feel like ordering from overseas this is the best liubao i have had so far. It's young and will probably be better with a few more years of storage but it's super chocolatey and a littlebless heavily fermented, and therefore more lively than many liubao productions.
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/guangxi-liubao-cha/2014-2018-three-cranes-brand-ye-yun-gu-shu-liubao-brick-tea-1kg.html
And the sample size
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/guangxi-liubao-cha/2014-2018-three-cranes-brand-ye-yun-gu-shu-liubao-brick-tea-50g.html
Also check out the little 100g Myanmar puer cakes he has and his selection of oolong, if you like the traditional roasted stuff or you want to try some tie guan yin with some solid age on it he is your man.

[Anonymous No.15432118]

I screwed up my finances and didn't have enough for DHL.
How long do I have to wait for YS shipping.

[Anonymous No.15432141]

>>15432099
I don't know about Japanese greens in a gaiwan, you could make it work but you would end up extending the steep times to the point where you would basically be doing western brewing in a different vessel. I guess you could throw a ton of green tea leaf in and do flash steeps and see what happens but i probably wouldn't bother, Japanese greens are so bold i doubt you could be missing out on much flavor wise. You can definitely do black teas in a gaiwan to get a different flavor experience.

[Anonymous No.15432153]

>>15432118
Its a surprise, maybe two weeks, maybe six. Yunnan sourcing has a ton of variability for some reason, even beyond the bat aids delays.

[Anonymous No.15432174]

>>15432118
>>15432153
Also it's Chinese new year right now so things might not move through the china post untill the celebrations end at the end of the month. I can't figure out if the postal system is actually on vacation entirely or not.

[Anonymous No.15432214]

>>15432141
You make a good point about the green teas. I have a few that have short steep times and can be resteeped, but it would basically be like you said with doing the same brewing method, just in a different vessel. I've had great luck with my Chinese black teas in a gaiwan, but I've strayed away from trying other varieties like Darjeeling teas this way. I think I tried it at one point and it didn't turn out well. I suppose I was mostly curious to hear what varieties others have had luck with using the gongfu method.

[Anonymous No.15432268]

>>15432214
Try this if you are feeling brave, it's somewhere between a fried green tea and an oolong.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/pingshang-handmade-fried-tea-strong-aroma-chao-cha-traditional-flavoring-chinese-teas-250g-packaging-p0066.html

[Anonymous No.15432318]

>>15432268
Thanks for the recommendation. This sounds interesting so I'll have to give it a try.

[Anonymous No.15432866]

>>15432153
>>15432174
Oh, then I'm screwed, got it.
At least my birthday is in February so I can pretend it's a birthday gift while waiting for the spring harvest to release

[Anonymous No.15432881]

>>15400560
tea does not require discussion

drink it and get on with your life

that is the point of tea, to enable the doing of things

simple.

[Anonymous No.15432888]

>>15432881
sounding an awful lot like a coffee tastelet

[Anonymous No.15432892]

>>15432881
I blame urban white women

[Anonymous No.15432905]

>>15432888
no.

i have a shed.

[Anonymous No.15432908]

>>15430524
Yeah but he was completely wrong on it having to be Indian tea and has a bad take on what kind of cup to use

[Anonymous No.15432921]

>>15432881
Some people just like to have a little ceremony in their lives to slow down and meditate on things when taking their drugs.
Some people aren't tastelets and can discern that bagged tea is garbage and there's dozens of methods to prepare tea that work

[Anonymous No.15433316]

Having some late night liu bao. Smooth, chocolaty, and very easy to drink. This is another really good offering from chawangshop but it's a bit pricey. Unfortunately the puer collector bubble has finally caught up to liubao and it's not as cheap as it used to be.

[Anonymous No.15433356]

>>15400560
>but anon, you're always having a cuppa

[Anonymous No.15433779]

>>15432099
Chinese and Taiwanese teas generally all work well gong fu. black tea, white tea, green tea, oolongs they all work.

I have not tried any Japanese greens in gaiwan (and am not really an expert on them anyways) but i doubt gong fu is ideal for them though i could be wrong. perhaps Japanese teas that are processed differently (more like a Chinese tea) will work better?

I don't know much about Korean teas but any whole leaf ones may work.

i have not experimented enough with Indian/Nepalese/Sri Lankan to come to a definitive conclusion. I don't think CTC is going to gong fu well. for other Indian teas i think it may be hit or miss. https://www.ketlee.in/ sells some that they specifically claim will work well gong fu.

[Anonymous No.15433796]

>>15432059
>>15432101
>>15433316

anyone have a guide to the Three Cranes recipe codes?

[Anonymous No.15433909]

>>15433796
Sorry i cant find the article right know, i know that untill recently three cranes and cnnp factories used different recipe codes but they were standardized in the last few years.
I will try look through my notes later but the codes include the year of production and the average grade of the tea usually the grade is from 0-4 with 0 being special grade and 4 being rough large leaf.

[Anonymous No.15433928]

>>15433909
thanks, I would appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.15433969]

>>15431961
sadly it's the case for nearly every board that there's a contingent of poltards that try to poison anything

[Anonymous No.15433975]

>>15432118
I ordered some tea from YS on the 8th and it only took 11 days to arrive.

[Anonymous No.15434002]

>>15433928
found it, this was translated from a chinese language forum post or article.

>In fact, before January 30, 2018, there is no uniform standard for the serial number of Liubao tea. Each manufacturer defines its own serial number. The veteran Wuzhou Tea Factory and China Tea Company have their own set of rules for inheritance, and emerging private enterprises are also determined according to their own business needs.

>For example, at the Wuzhou Tea Factory, the editor once asked people at the tea factory: "The previous serial numbers were all five digits, and one digit represented Wuzhou, especially for exported tea. In the 1990s, there was not so much attention. 4 digits, easy to remember, such as 0818, the first digit 0 is the meaning of premium tea, the second is the year, and the last two are the batch number." "Because the year is represented by a single digit, it is inevitable that there will be duplication of numbers. However, there are instructions in the package that clearly mark the product’s aging date and production date. In general, the product name is directly called, such as XX year's Jinhua 103, XX year's Betelnut Fragrant 103, etc."

>The serial number of Liubao tea in Wuzhou Tea Factory usually has four or five digits:

Four digits: the first digit represents the grade, the second digit represents the starting year of aging, and the last two digits represent the batch.

>For example, 2601, it means: Class 2 tea, aged in 2006, the first batch.

>Five digits: the first represents the start year of aging, the second represents the Wuzhou Tea Factory, the third represents the grade, and the last two represent the batch;

>For example, 85109, it means: aging began in 2008, first-class tea, the 09th batch.

>The classic 92101 of Liubao tea, do you know what it means? In fact, this is a product of China Tea.
continued

[Anonymous No.15434013]

>>15434002
>There are four digits (such as 5118), five digits (such as 40318), and six digits (such as 431029) in the serial number of China Tea Liubao. After 2008, the coding method is more standardized, and the first digit usually represents The age of aging, the second represents the grade. However, you will also see the full Chinese tea name (such as Sai Pinang) or the three-digit number (such as 802).

>There are other Liubao teas with the same six-digit number, but they come from different manufacturers and have different codes. For example, 52104 may represent the first batch of grade 1 tea, and 75302 may represent the grade 2 tea produced by another manufacturer on May 30, 2007. These codes are like passwords. What number corresponds to what craftsmanship and tea taste. There are no rules at all. This is why Liubao tea enthusiasts can only try it by taste. If it tastes good, come look for this numbered tea next time.

>The lack of uniform coding rules is not conducive to the promotion of Liubao tea, even if many ordinary consumers want to try it, they have no way to start. However, starting from January 30, 2018, the Guangxi Bureau of Quality and Technical Supervision approved the release of the "Liubao Tea Product Batch Code Code" standard, which is the first standard formulated by the national tea industry for the tea product batch code method.

>In the "Liubao Tea Product Lot Number Coding Specification" standard, the product lot number consists of five Arabic numerals. In the batch code, the first two digits indicate the year of aging, the third digit indicates the quality level, and the last two digits are the serial number of the product.

>The issuance and implementation of this standard unifies the product batch number coding rules of the Liubao tea industry. It has industry stability and easy identification. It satisfies the needs of manufacturers and consumers in various aspects and helps to improve Liubao. The standardization level
contd

[Anonymous No.15434021]

>>15434013
>With the implementation of the coding standards, the previous serial numbers of Liubao Tea have gradually become history, but the classic serial numbers of some major factories represent classic products.

so its complicated, each factory used a slightly different system, its standardized now, but they sometimes use historical recipe numbers for certain productions.

[Anonymous No.15434030]

>>15434002
oh yeah Wuzhou Tea factory is Three Cranes

[Anonymous No.15434149]

>>15434002
>>15434013
>>15434021
>>15434030

thanks, that seems to make sense with what is listed on yunnan sourcing.

for example
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2013-three-cranes-0307-liu-bao-hei-cha-mini-cake
is from 2013

A shame the codes don't contain more useful information. I wish they told you a bit more about the fermentation level or other details. perhaps they tend to use a similar recipe for the same batch number each year like some of the puer makers. still knowing the leaf grade and age is a good start.

[Anonymous No.15435151]

Coof

[Anonymous No.15435241]

>>15432908
Are you saying he was wrong to use Indian tea for some specific or are you saying this because you’re another puerh fanboy like many in these threads seem to be?

I forget what he said about the cup. Most of what I remember was about the sugar usage because I agree with him and I hate (US) Southern sweet tea with a passion.

[Anonymous No.15435321]

Would /ck/ drink tea out of a dumpling instead of broth?

[Anonymous No.15435525]

I feel silly for gongfuing everything out of habit (mainly drink oolong and pu er). Some subpar black teas I have are actually quite decent western style. I have to remember that.

[Anonymous No.15435801]

>>15435321
Yeah why not. Sounds like a job for Black Gold bi luo chun

[Anonymous No.15435810]

>>15435241
Nah I'm not a puerh fanboy, I don't like it much.
He just says that you can't get a strong enough kick out of teas from china or japan which is false.
>Eighthly, one should drink out of a good breakfast cup — that is, the cylindrical type of cup, not the flat, shallow type. The breakfast cup holds more, and with the other kind one's tea is always half cold before one has well started on it.
I mostly don't like his big cup method instead of small cups that you can down the second they hit perfect temp

[Anonymous No.15435826]

>>15435801

I was thinking either a nice sharp bergamot or a good puerh

[Anonymous No.15435832]

>>15400560
What's a good insulated mug/Thermos for matcha?

[Anonymous No.15435843]

>>15435832
Pic related?

[Anonymous No.15435869]

>>15435832

zojirushi

[Anonymous No.15435915]

Someone recommend me a regular normal looking gaiwan and cups, everywhere I look is sold out except for ones with ugly designs AAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15435952]

>>15435843
Yeah that's my job where I'll bring it kek

>>15435869
That's what I'm looking at right now fren. Nonstick or stainless?

[Anonymous No.15436081]

I bought some Irish breakfast with the same order.

[Anonymous No.15436089]

>>15435869
God-tier machinery. I use their hot water heater.

[Anonymous No.15436233]

>>15435832
I like my 10oz yeti tumbler. Had it a few years. Think they make a mug version with a handle now.

[Anonymous No.15436247]

>>15435915
They've got graphite and white in stock. I picked up the dark chocolate a while ago. Ships from Auburn,CA.

https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/gaiwans/products/lubao-gaiwan?variant=39643529220

[Anonymous No.15436372]

A friend just gave me a bunch of Tie LuoHan yancha and I've never brewed it before. Any tips? Standard 6.5g/100ml and boiling?

[Anonymous No.15436450]

>>15436247
Thanks just what I was looking for

[Anonymous No.15436511]

>>15436081
Did you pirate a copy of the ISO standard?

[Anonymous No.15436523]

>>15436372
I would start with 90-95°c some don't quite hold up to fully boiling. If it's a strip type oolong that ratio should be good, if it's ball type do an extra gram or two.

[Anonymous No.15436561]

>>15436511
I’m too lazy to do that or find a library which has it. Watched this video instead.

https://youtu.be/nAsrsMPftOI

[Anonymous No.15436623]

>>15436523

Thanks! Probably won't get the chance to have any tonight but I'll report back when I do.

[Anonymous No.15436797]

>>15436511
>ISO standard

Discord trannies please bless me. I am but a humble sipper.

[Anonymous No.15436835]

>>15436797
This video mostly covers it
>>15436561
I wanted to grab a pdf and include it in the pastebin but i think the ISO guys are pretty aggressive about copyright.

[Anonymous No.15437290]

A couple of articles about liubao that are interesting
http://archive.globalteahut.org/article/999
http://archive.globalteahut.org/article/641

[Anonymous No.15437364]

>>15437290
thanks i will read those when i have got a sec.

[Anonymous No.15437365]

>>15437290
I found one more, this is about how liu bao is processed
http://archive.globalteahut.org/article/1000

[Anonymous No.15437444]

>>15437365
thanks again

[Anonymous No.15437637]

>>15437365

Looks like that W2T Liubao coming out in the club next month is something called "Laochapo".

From Babelcarp, "literally Old Tea Granny: a colloquial way of referring to the 4th and 5th leaves of a tea shoot, as well as Liubaocha made from these leaves".

Curious to see what it's like. I'm not quite decided yet on how I feel about the huangian he sent out last month so I'm curious to find out if this is basically huangpian unfermented liubao style.

[Anonymous No.15437770]

>>15437637
>unfermented
Is it a green liubao?

[Anonymous No.15437774]

>>15437365
Tis is one of the better articles i have read on puer and chinese tea in general. Super indepth.

[Anonymous No.15437857]

>>15437770

Seems like it. Said on his IG it comes out much closer to how a sheng does even though it's still considered a subset of liubao.

[Anonymous No.15437921]

>>15437857
Very interesting, my understanding is that's what traditionally produced liubao was like back in the 60s then it would sit is a humid warehouse or a cave in Malaysia for a number of years to ferment before sale.
Chawangshop has one or two "green" liubao for sale but they are typically small village made productions because the factories dont make it that way anymore.

[Anonymous No.15437980]

I want to try some Hong Kong storage puer.
Should a get this ripe raw traditional storage blend for the super authentic HK puer experience?
https://www.tealifehk.com/products/1999-2006-traditional-storage-raw-and-ripe-pu-erh-mix
Or should i get this natural storage xiaguan for something that has gotten some solid humidity without getting sweat for a decade in the sauna that is HK traditional storage?
https://www.tealifehk.com/products/2004-classic-hk-dry-storage-xiaguan-8653-raw-pu-erh-cake-15g

[Anonymous No.15438139]

>>15437980
puer lesbians jajaja

[Anonymous No.15438162]

>>15438139
Classic

[Anonymous No.15439182]

Should i buy liu an, liu bao, or puer? I can't get all three

[Anonymous No.15440204]

>>15439182
what have you had before? what sort of taste are you looking for? what vendor are you planing to ordering from?

[Anonymous No.15440359]

>>15436081
I think I’m gonna need to have a word with the shop I bought my tea taster set from. Tasting set is fine, but the Irish breakfast tea I bought from them was fucking powder!

[Anonymous No.15440959]

virgin puer lesbians vs. hei cha chads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyh3YeP1lvk
https://tv.cctv.com/2012/08/11/VIDE1355595102390909.shtml
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/hubei-hei-cha.html
it's a "green" type of hei cha, sweet, herbal and rustic. when you're tired of all the shengs that you drink to be hip.

[hei chad No.15441010]

>>15440959
Reporting in

[Anonymous No.15441140]

>>15440959
I was looking at that a while ago, it's so cheap i have a hard time believing it's any good. I get that it's not hyped and made in a region where tea is cheap but i would guess it tastes like brewing oak leaves

[Anonymous No.15441335]

>>15441140
just give in to the sweet marketing if you want to be like besuited western chad strolling the streets of mystical orient, being gifted bricks of tea by the local children.

it's a good tea, certainly different. highly compressed mix of leaves and twigs and by god the gnarliest of twigs you'll ever see. what you get in your cup is essence of the whole tea shrub. and after ten years of aging it's pretty mellow.

it's a matter of perspective, observe few posts earlier the "hype kids" gushing about even rougher and dead looking leaves just because the venerable white2tea posted the next "drop" on instagram. $30.

> it's so cheap i have a hard time believing it's any good
:^)

[Anonymous No.15441383]

>>15441335

The "gushing" you described was literally...

>W2T hinted at next month's club. Looks like yard waste. Wonder what it has to do with liubao
>oh weird it's some huangpian-like unfermented version of liubao
>I wasn't immediately impressed by the December club huangpian so we'll see how it goes

Try at least attempting to read for comprehension next time.

[Anonymous No.15441398]

>>15441383
yeah, I know you were one of the posters.
ok, not gushing then, sorry.

[Anonymous No.15441476]

>>15441398

Well now I feel bad for being so pointed.

[Anonymous No.15441607]

>>15441335
Yeah anon i actually drink hei cha regularly and the last time i bought something that cheap is tasted like leaf litter, hence my comment

[Anonymous No.15441639]

>>15441335
Speaking of hei cha have you drank any more of that liu an from chawangshop recently? Is that still a strong recommend from you? I really need a kick in the ass to actually buy it, too many options.

[Anonymous No.15441657]

>>15441607
>tasted like leaf litter
the good kind or the bad kind? i was looking into getting a brick from the factory you just posted.

[Anonymous No.15441689]

>>15441657
The bad kind, Baishaxi makes good tea, jusrlt don't get one of these hei cha zhuan (without golden flowers) bricks from them. Their fu cha bricks are good.

[Anonymous No.15442192]

All that talk about taiwanese oolongs got my dick hard. Chinkmarket purchase, $12/200g. Rate it.

[Anonymous No.15442263]

>>15442192
Looks like it's got a decent amount of roast. The nice thing about buying chinese market oolong is it's usually at least a few years old so it's had some time to age and smooth out.

[Anonymous No.15442329]

>>15442263
I'll try to get a better picture later when I brew it up. Whatever the fuck "Da Guan" is, their tea is 2-3x more online than what I paid. Debating going back down and buying the rest. Smells good. Nutty, honeyed and floral. Kind of similar notes to the oolongs Purple Cloud sent me.

[Anonymous No.15442374]

>>15442329
Does it come sealed up good? If you like it it might be worth it to grab a few since you can just store em away for as long as you want if the tea comes in those sealed foil bags.

[Anonymous No.15442493]

Has anyone ever bought a yixing on YS before? For only like 60 bucks its tempting, but why are they so cheap? Bad quality clay? Not real yixing? Obviously its not handmade at that price, so do you think its casted or partially machine made?

[Anonymous No.15442526]

>>15442374
Very tightly vacc'd.

They had all 3 this guy bought but I only snagged the tie guan yin because I remembered the name from this post.

>>15432101

[Anonymous No.15442533]

They are cast, which doesn't really matter but they clay on the cheap ones doesn't look great.
They say they use "da hong pao" clay which apparently is a real thing but also very expensive and rare, so not something you would find in 60 pots. There are some recommended vendors in the pastebin for clay pots, the cheapest ones i would buy run about $125. Essence of tea, tealifehk and teas we like all have one or two pots in the range that are half handmade and claim to be free of chemical additives to the clay.

[Anonymous No.15442607]

>>15442533
Thanks for the info, and yeah I browsed some links on the pastebin and was just wondering why the difference in price. What in particular about the clay looks poor quality? I have never owned a yixing and was just curious what visual cues tell you this.

[Anonymous No.15442630]

>>15441639
Just earlier today and again it gave ME a kick in the ass. It doesn't go for that many steeps before going into sweet water territory but the first 4 can give you a scare. It's small leaf varietal and brews light orange with a tint of green so looks innocent enough.
It your call brother.

[Anonymous No.15442712]

>>15441689
are the Baishaxi black box 1953 recipe bricks any good?

[Anonymous No.15442843]

>>15442712
They are petty good, smokey, i would try to get one that is at least a few years old just to let it mellow out a bit.
This guy has a good price for the 2012 vintage and i thought his tasted pretty good.
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35&product_id=230
His price on the three cranes bricks is also the cheapest i have seen. I grabbed the 0222 a little while ago and it's good if a bit bitter.

[Anonymous No.15442878]

>>15442607
You are paying for a few things, the quality of the clay itself where it's sourced, how long it's aged. When they prep clay for pottery they hydrate it and then leave it to rest for a while, this allows the organic matter, sticks etc to break down. You are also paying for how the clay is processed , modern clay has barium added to it to make it easier to process while the more traditional stuff goes through a very laborious series of refining and milling steps. If you get low quality clay then it's unlikely to make any of your tea actually taste better. Personally i think unless you want to get into clay pot collecting, or you drink a lot of hong kong style teas with heavy fermentation, wet storage or super dark roasts you are probably better off sticking with porcelain brewing vessels. But i am very far from an expert.

[Anonymous No.15442882]

>>15442630
Thanks for the trip report

[Anonymous No.15442916]

>>15442843
good to hear. I was intending on ordering both of those from him.
here is what i was planing on getting does my order look good?

https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=537
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=58
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=382
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=252
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1026
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=436
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=220
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=230
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1004

[Anonymous No.15442992]

>>15442916
I would recommended skipping the holy flame brick. They can be pretty rough and i doubt his storage has mellowed them out much.
Get these samples instead
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=42_45&product_id=664
https://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=42_44&product_id=644
Thr puer tangerines are also not amazing, but cheap enough that it doesn't matter. Worth getting just to experience the chempi taste

[Anonymous No.15443149]

>>15400560
New thread
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[Anonymous No.15443160]

>>15442992
>I would recommended skipping the holy flame brick.
the description for that specific brick mentions it spent some time in Guangzhou plus its from 2007 and has some positive reviews. do you really think its not drinkable yet?