nuclear pill for whitebois and asians

[Anonymous No.15200748]

fact 1: MSG is just as harmless as tomato paste, soy sauce, wooster sauce, miso, oyster mushrooms, torula yeast (chips) and chicken/fish stock

fact 2: all of these things ARE harmful due to free glutamate content, meaning MSG is harmful as well.

fact 3: italian restaurants' "white wine" dishes are loaded with MSG 80% of the time

glutamates are meant to be consumed in their whole form via fresh meat. Anything else is hazardous to your health and excitotoxic.

[Anonymous No.15200858]

>>15200748
i like salt

[Anonymous No.15200863]

>>15200748
>source: hysterical retards

[Anonymous No.15200864]

>>15200748
Oh its you again isn't it
>hurr if you injected a non-specified amount of pure glutamate into tissue it causes cell death
What a fucking shock, next you'll tell me that you can drown in water.

[Anonymous No.15200867]

>>15200748
what does any of that matter? literally everything is bad for you

[Anonymous No.15200869]

>>15200867
kys

[Anonymous No.15200892]

Yo for those of you out there who who want to do more than 'no u' back and forth almost every objection to MSG is summarised in this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5938543/

[Anonymous No.15200899]

The thing is, when picking through this paper don't just read each statement and assume oh gosh this is the true facts/science I'm reading here.

The objective of the paper is given in the abstract and the journal that published it specialises is broad 'debate' topics.

It says ...

The purpose of this editorial is to shed light on MSG toxicity and the possible threat it poses to public health. Can MSG associated harm be prevented or should the product be banned altogether?

So it isn't even looking to draw a conclusion.

[Anonymous No.15200904]

>>15200899
And even if it was drawing a conclusion, a single study doesn't prove anything since people will falsify results for money or ideoloical purposes
People need to stop using science as their surrogate religion

[Anonymous No.15200924]

A lot of the studies cited in that paper aren't great studies or aren't being used in the correct context or are refuted by several other similar studies. I'd be happy to pick through the evidence offered for each claim made in that paper and discuss it?

For example it cites a chinese study showing correlation between daily msg intake and the likely hood of having a BMI over 23. Firstly ... fat people tend to eat more food and eating more food will be associated with a greater consumption overall and/or different types of food, but anyway.

This study considered relevant to the anti MSG brigade ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21856888/

Was used by this study ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32625571/

Where it was used to establish the safety of MSG as a food additive for the european food safety authority because it was showing MSG consumption to be no real issue.

That paper does however give a figure of 3.2g/kg per day as an upper limit for no observed adverse effect level and then reduces it by a 'safety factor' of 100 to 320mg/kg per person per day which is what? 25g a day?

[Anonymous No.15200938]

>>15200924
so what you're saying is if you eat more msg you'll have a higher chance of banging qts?

[Anonymous No.15200943]

>>15200924
>>15200899
you're right, but i hate you for being a dumb faggot redditspacer with ellipses abuse
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15200972]

FACT: MSG is delicioso

[Anonymous No.15200976]

>>15200748
So what's your point here?

[Anonymous No.15201216]

>>15200748
Kojima is a hack

[Anonymous No.15201226]

>>15200943
>ellipses abuse
that's just the culture of Gen-xer's on the internet.

[Anonymous No.15201234]

No chinky poison for me thanks.

[Anonymous No.15201315]

>>15200748
>wooster sauce
off yourself

[Anonymous No.15201511]

>>15200748
>got btfo in another thread so he makes a new one

[Anonymous No.15201772]

>>15200748
nice try chang still not buying MSG

[Anonymous No.15201791]

>>15201772

This. I wouldn't put that shit in my daily cheez whizz sauce dip

[Anonymous No.15201800]

I use it to make vegetables taste better, BTFO china fatties

[Anonymous No.15202048]

Once again the seething retards come out of their cave to spout nonsense about MSG. Here they go trying to refute a study showing there are no dangers to MSG while they never produce a single credible source beyond injecting small mammals with massive quantities of the stuff. If you still believe MSG is bad for you, you're either a brain dead retard or an incel chud who associates it with chinese food even though it's been around for all of time.

[Anonymous No.15202058]

>>15202048
No, actually, a single neurosurgeon with no continued education in neuroscience who barely scraped by Dayan & Abbott wrote a book one time that every peer he personally knew in his life has condemned and systemically disproven and THAT my friend, is proof that he's RIGHT and you're WRONG

[Anonymous No.15202088]

>>15202058
you b me tfo right there. guess Im wrong huehuehue

[Anonymous No.15202107]

>>15202048
I hope Mr Shecklestein is paying you well for your shilling efforts.

[Anonymous No.15202111]

>>15202058
The science is clear that excitotoxins cause neurodegenerative diseases. But nice try.

[Anonymous No.15202162]

>>15200869
Cope.

[Anonymous No.15202175]

>>15202111
>trust me, I know things. Check out all my reputable sources and peer reviewed studies.

[Anonymous No.15202182]

>>15202048

Sorry bro chink poison I read it on the internet

[Anonymous No.15202181]

>>15200904
We're in the midst of a reproducibility crisis. most published research today is never confirmed by anyone independent. it's mostly taken for its word

[Anonymous No.15202184]

>>15202175
Crack open a biology book, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.15202185]

>>15202107
Just a normie who is angry retards are allowed free will in this society. Anti science or science misinterpretors should be sent to camps for re education

[Anonymous No.15202186]

>>15202048
>chud
Exalted and beautiful, yes we all know.

[Anonymous No.15202192]

>>15202185
You're the most anti-science poster here. And you're always here.

[Anonymous No.15202197]

>>15202184
>trust me, open a bio book and all the info you need is right there!!!
Burden of proof is on you fags

[Anonymous No.15202203]

>>15200892
>Hmm
should I listen to the trusted, peer reviewed medical journal? Nah! I'm gonna listen to OPs delusions.

[Anonymous No.15202204]

>>15202192
Im not the one posting studies that dont prove jack shit and sperging out about how right I am.

[Anonymous No.15202209]

>>15202184
Point me in the direction of a current textbook that supports your theory, Einstein.

[Anonymous No.15202211]

>>15202204
If you were even remotely scientifically literate, you would have understood the relevance of the studies posted.

[Anonymous No.15202221]

>>15202204
>sperging out about how right I am
You sperg out here every day -- 24/7 -- vehemently insisting that MSG, a textbook excitotoxin, is safe to consume. Take a break.

[Anonymous No.15202241]

>>15202221
Im not the one who is making radical claims with zero evidence.

>>15202211
You still wont acknowledge the fact that the studies posted have nothing to do with dietary msg

[Anonymous No.15202294]

>>15200748
>harmless
>sodium

[Anonymous No.15202567]

>source: ooooyyy veyyyy the headache this chinese food gave me is practically anuddah shoah

[Anonymous No.15202713]

>>15200748
funny how much butthurt I've caused just by stating facts.

to those of you who are MSG sensitive: carefully gauge your reaction when you consume a large quantity of the listed OP ingredients: oyster mushrooms, tomato paste, etc.

chances are you'll develop twitching and/or headaches after, because the problem isn't MSG, it's free glutamates. MSG is simply one avenue of free glutamates which gets all the attention because most europeans are retarded sheep.

[Anonymous No.15202731]

>>15202713
>>15200748
also it is my belief that Mongoloids, or at least Chinese are partially adapted to this by being naturally inhibited.

The regular consumption of free glutamates in the form of soy sauce, miso, etc have selected for a naturally inhibited behavioral phenotype, because glutamates are excitotoxic.

Meanwhile Indians/Arabs/Europeans retain a more excitable behavioral phenotype because they're adapted to neutral or even inhibitory foods (like milk). Oysters are also a very inhibitory food due to the zinc content)

[Anonymous No.15202732]

>>15202713
making things up that literally have no connotation in science is not stating facts

[Anonymous No.15202740]

>>15202732
glutamates wreck me and they also wreck many other people. Keep denying reality

[Anonymous No.15202761]

>>15200748
>all of these things ARE harmful due to free glutamate content, meaning MSG is harmful as well.
um, what? A basic amino acid you need to build protein and your body actively maintains in all of your cells is harmful?

[Anonymous No.15202929]

>>15202740
You just sound like you have full blown autism.

[Anonymous No.15202934]

>>15202740
wow that's crazy anon that's completely arbitrary and literally the antithesis to any legitimate study
i'm sure you're 'gluten sensitive' too

[Anonymous No.15203011]

>>15202934
>>15202740
wrecked

[Anonymous No.15203714]

You guys just couldn't help but fall into this ridiculous back and forth tit for tat bullshit again could you?

Yo anybody interested beyond the superficial shit posting check out ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19587091/

Also of interest is what is listed under similar articles. I say of interest because a lot of what seems to get people riled up is MSG as an excitotoxin.

While tons of evidence exist to show that it is an excitotoxin when applied in pretty enormous doses directly to brains and such none seems to exist to show the same when consumed as part of your diet, even when added to food. I mean ... even anecdotally despite 'chinese restaurant syndrome'.

Chinese restaurant syndrome itself was a joke by a guy called Dr. Howard Steel too.

Anyway. It doesn't enter your bloodstream as free glutamate. Everybody is always like ... oh it passes the blood brain barrier. It is oxidised pretty quickly in your stomach and intestines. There is even a study there were they tube fed the stuff to preterm infants. These studies are all less than 15 years old.

But whatever. Feel free to post anything resembling a position with some evidence that worries you and I'll be happy to break it down. I'm down to learn if you've got something.

[Anonymous No.15204262]

For me it's fish sauce

[Anonymous No.15204277]

>>15200899
That is completely and utterly irrelevant

Cope

[Anonymous No.15204319]

>>15204277
>Posts detailed post asking for some sources with an open mind
>Comments cope
You truly don't have a logical bone in your body

[Anonymous No.15204332]

what a fucking embarrassment lmfao

[Anonymous No.15204958]

>>15201216
Kek

[Anonymous No.15205443]

>>15204319
if msg is so benign why does it make me twitchy

[Anonymous No.15205455]

>>15205443
Placebo. I would bet my life on it.