/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15192355]

Please educate me on healthy/'real/natural' cooking oils, as well as cooking with butter. I need to learn.
Or point me to some informative links.
I appreciate all help.

[Anonymous No.15192372]

>>15192355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfk2IXlZdbI&ab_channel=PanosEgglezos
This is how all refined seed oils are made.
It's gross.

Use lard/tallow/ghee for high heat cooking. Butter for low heat

[Anonymous No.15192384]

Just cook with animal fats and you're good.
Butter is good for medium heat and below.

[Anonymous No.15192401]

cholesterol and trans fats are essential for testosterone and muscle growth
there has been a campaign to vilify these chemicals to pacify and weaken men
look to the mongolians

[Anonymous No.15192409]

>>15192372
>>15192384
Define medium/high heat. I assume anything above low would be oven or similar. I'm basic and just need butter for the stovetop then butter or whatever else for the actual inside. I assume I can get what I need at a basic grocery store?

[Anonymous No.15192421]

>>15192401
retardedpilled ketolard

[Anonymous No.15192490]

>>15192355
lard, bacon fat, butter, all good shittt

[Anonymous No.15192525]

>>15192355
all fats are bad for you in excess, not bad in moderation. what is moderate use depends on your own health, cholesterol problems, exercise, blah blah blah

butter and olive/sesasme oil are delicious, canola and grapeseed and all that are meant to be nearly flavorless.

you cant really fry in normal butter because it has milk solids in it that would burn. you can brown those millk solids by basically cooking your butter which makes brown butter which has many delicious applications. its possible to filter the milk solids out of brown butter which leaves you with clarified butter which you can fry in. if im not mistaken ghee is flavored clarified butter typically associated with indian food

good olive oil is peppery, grassy, vegetal, delicious. great as a topping, probably healthier than butter if you compare them directly but you should overdo this either. i mainly use it for salads, as toppings, in sauces, maybe in a sautee.

use the tasteless cheap oils for frying shit or saving your tasty olive oil for other purposes

lots of the other oils are memes in my eyes, shit like avocado. its probably a good thing to eat a variety of oils as variety is always good for your health but again it must be in moderation. other animal fats are also tasty but most definitely worse for the health of your heart but in small quantities you should be fine

[Anonymous No.15192543]

>>15192401
take your meds

[Anonymous No.15192553]

>>15192372
Gross because?

Do you have a video on industrial-scale butter or lard production?

[Anonymous No.15192562]

>>15192525
occasionally ghee is salted, but usually it's just clarified butter.

[Anonymous No.15192708]

>>15192355
>informative links.
Google.com

[Anonymous No.15192714]

>>15192553
I can make my own butter and lard at home.
In fact, I have made my own butter and lard at home.

I cannot make my own expeller pressed canola oil.
Dude, it's gross. The oil is fucking rancid.

[Anonymous No.15192767]

>>15192714
If you could press your own canola at home, it wouldn't be. Industrial-scale anything definitely has the time-frame and exposed surface area to allow for oxidation if not straight-up decay.

[Anonymous No.15192807]

>>15192767
The thing is, you can't really press most seeds used in vegetable oil (corn, canola, soy, and cottonseed) at home. It's a complex process. Even the seeds you can press at home, like coconut, olive, sunflower, and peanut, are incredibly time and labor consuming and use a shitton of said seed/nut.
For example, it takes 5 lbs of sunflower seeds in order to produce 1/4 cup of oil at home. And that's a much easier extraction.

No thanks, I'd rather just render my own lard. It takes virtually no effort and the yield is plentiful (plus a byproduct of pork cracklings)

[Anonymous No.15192817]

Safflower oil is best oil. Best ratio of fatty acids and high nutritional value

[Anonymous No.15192881]

>>15192807
my original point was it's not much - if any - less gross than industrial butter or lard production, not with processing allowances for fuckery.

If you're cooking with your own cow squeezings and pork shavings, then good on you. I've usually got some schmaltz, lard, yogurt and ghee happening, but when I don't (or when it's just not the right flavour), I'm stuck with the filtered, processed leftovers of acid-treated, fermented, and otherwised mistreated plant goo... it doesn't bug me that much, but then again, neither would cannibalism.

[Anonymous No.15192904]

>>15192355
Cook with animal fats. The only plant based fat you should use is olive oil but dont use it to cook.

[Anonymous No.15193068]

>>15192817
enjoy your cancer and diabetes from high amounts of omega 6s

[Anonymous No.15193108]

>>15192372
>Use lard/tallow/ghee for high heat cooking.
Wrong. Those are dangerously high in saturated fat. Canola is the healthiest cooking oil for high temperatures.

[Anonymous No.15193142]

>>15193108
I hope monsanto pays you to shill for them

[Anonymous No.15193158]

>>15193142
Monsanto makes more from the animal agriculture industry than from selling directly to humans, retard

[Anonymous No.15193197]

>>15193158
keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.15193218]

>>15192372
>>15192384
>>15192490
>>15192714
>>15192807
>>15192904
>>15193068
The problem with cooking with animal fat is that it causes heart disease and cancer. You may like the taste, but it kills.

[Anonymous No.15193258]

>>15192355
Animal fats are saturated, so they’re worse for you than oils. But it doesn’t matter if you practice moderation. They are also delicious.
Butter can only be used at low temp because it burns, unless you use clarified butter.
Olive oil and sesame oil can be used for cooking with, but if you’re using the really good stuff, only use it for finishing a dish. Applying heat with evaporate a lot of their flavor and they will end up tasting like the cheap kind anyway.
Oils like peanut, grapeseed, and canola are good for high temp. Peanut is the most flavorful and is great for chinese food or fries. If you want a neutral flavor, use pretty much any high temp oil you want, it doesn’t really matter. Don’t listen to anyone extolling the supposed health benefits of avocado oil or whatever is the meme of the month.

[Anonymous No.15193295]

>>15193218
Nathan Pritikin might have had zero fat on his heart before he committed suicide, but he also struggled with horrible leukemia.

A diet low in animal fats (and therefore low LDL) will also increase your risk for hemorrhagic stroke.

Oh, and refined seed oils contain trans fats, which clog arteries.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

https://www.fuckcancer.org/canolaoilhealthrisks/

[Anonymous No.15193343]

>>15193295
I didn't suggest avoiding animal fat altogether. Just that it should mostly be consumed as part of the meat, not used separately for cooking. Plant sources of fat will always be healthier since carcinogens concentrate in fat stores up the food chain.

[Anonymous No.15193370]

>>15193343
>hexane soaked fat will always be healthier than icky animal fat!

[Anonymous No.15193416]

>>15193370
Canola oil is typically processed first by crushing the rapeseed to exude 40 percent of the oil. The non-oil part, the meal, is then placed in a solvent (usually hexane) to extract the remainder of the oil. The hexane is then filtered out. Some people argue the hexane is still left in the canola oil and is toxic, but, it’s estimated only 0.8 milligrams of hexane exists in 1 kilogram of canola oil. Additionally, hexane has very low toxicity, and there’s no evidence to substantiate any danger when consuming trace amount of hexane. Still, if this is a concern, one may purchase cold-pressed canola oil as this avoids the solvent-extraction step. One thing to note, though, is cold-pressed canola oil has higher amounts of omega-3 fatty acids, but lower amounts of the phytosterols compared to the solvent-extracted canola oil.

[Anonymous No.15193436]

>>15193197
animals need more food to grow than just eating that food themselves. im sorry you failed elementary biology

[Anonymous No.15193440]

>>15193108
Based troll

[Anonymous No.15193442]

>>15193436
How much canola oil do animals need to grow?

[Anonymous No.15193451]

>>15193416
Or I can just not eat canola oil

[Anonymous No.15193456]

>>15193442
Cows n steers eat alfalfa.

[Anonymous No.15193459]

>>15193442
Most of it becomes animal feed by weight.

[Anonymous No.15193473]

>>15193459
Or you can raise your own livestock and not feed it canola?

[Anonymous No.15193479]

>>15192409
Dont sear meat in butter. That's all. Highest heat butter is basting steak after sear or sauteeing onions or fried egg.

[Anonymous No.15193492]

>>15193473
That represents <0.001% of the food supply. Most people obtain their food from the factory farming system. You could support the population on traditional sustainable methods without a radical shift lower down the food chain.

[Anonymous No.15193495]

>>15193492
You *couldn't support

[Anonymous No.15193500]

>>15193492
There is nothing traditional about hexane soaked gmo canola oil.

[Anonymous No.15193508]

>>15193500
Are you even reading the thread?

[Anonymous No.15193516]

>>15193492
Who said I was trying to feed the world? I'm looking to feed myself and my loved ones. If you die of starvation because farmers realize it's more beneficial for them to produce quality over quantity then good. Fuck people like you who produce nothing but expect people to want to eat processed slop and live in the city in studio apartments.

"feed the world" is a monsanto catchphrase you useless fuck.

[Anonymous No.15193546]

>>15193516
Take your meds, nutjob. You asked a question and received a factual answer. Your schizo ramblings are not on topic.

[Anonymous No.15193552]

>>15193492

>You could't support the population on traditional sustainable methods without a radical shift lower down the food chain.

What does that even mean? What kind of radical shift?

[Anonymous No.15193562]

[Anonymous No.15193570]

>>15193552
In other words, without factory farming people could not consume the same levels of beef, pork, chicken, etc. They would have to shift to foods lower on the food chain.

[Anonymous No.15193719]

I think sesame seed oil is tasty, but its taste is more apparent than other oils, so you gotta watch how much you use.

[Anonymous No.15193727]

>>15193570
Or our farming system has to change.

[Anonymous No.15193754]

>>15193727
You can't change it without changing consumption levels. That's the point. There's not enough land.

[Anonymous No.15193780]

>>15193754
There is plenty of land. You just live in the city and have no clue what the fuck is going on. Drive across the country and you will see massive plots of land either doing nothing or just growing one crop. It's incredibly inefficient.

If you think this system is perfect then you would have thought the system 100 years ago pre factory farming was also perfect. It's not. It changed, and it's going to change again. Regenerative polyculture farming with both crops and animals is most likely the direction its going in.

[Anonymous No.15193815]

>>15193780
Those vegans are going to shit a meatbrick when they find out how many dead cows wind up in their canola after that.

[Anonymous No.15193843]

>>15193780
Imagine being this clueless. The earth is a sphere of finite radius. It can only support a finite number of people. It supports fewer people at half a hectare per person than it does at 1/16 of a hectare per person. You can't handwave the math and physics away with a bunch of marketing buzzwords.

[Anonymous No.15193884]

>>15193843
Do you want some popcorn while you watch? You know that's exactly how this goes down, right?

[Anonymous No.15194069]

>>15193843
Again, you have no fucking clue what is going on.

Whatever man, just keep sitting in your coffin apartment. Eat your soy and bugs, and don't forget to get your vasectomy, because clearly your lineage needs to end.

[Anonymous No.15194088]

>>15194069
>t. Web-toed breeder.

[Anonymous No.15194094]

>>15194069
>t. lashes out randomly at strangers because he can't do math

[Anonymous No.15194105]

>>15192372
>ghee
What? Fuck off boomer, isn't that what you use to condition a fucking baseball mitt? Just keel over already

[Anonymous No.15194108]

>>15194069
>t. Antiethnoentomologist

[Anonymous No.15194116]

>>15194105
>Using Indian cooking butter to condition leather
Interesting take. What took you there?

[Anonymous No.15194130]

>>15194088
>One less drop of soyjack ruining the human genome in 100 years.
Maybe there is a benevolent God after all.

[Anonymous No.15194134]

>>15192881
>schmaltz
die kike

[Anonymous No.15194142]

>>15194116
>being such a cuck you don't know how to play ball

[Anonymous No.15194170]

>>15194142
Up until the world ended, I played twice a week. Always used vaseline, baby oil and walnut oil for the occasional touchup, never thought of using butter or ghee.

[Anonymous No.15194177]

>>15194088
>>15194094
>>15194108

[Anonymous No.15194185]

>>15194130
He has a tendency to gift heritage and founder diseases to people with webbed toes. You should probably get your heart checked out every few years.

[Anonymous No.15194194]

>>15194134
What else would you call chicken fat? It's not tallow or lard, it's uma delicia, bicha!

[None !2Code3TV3M No.15194206]

>>15193343
if you're going to take a middling approach just reduce oils all together instead of blaming the superior in every way animal fats

[Anonymous No.15194262]

>>15194185
listen, I know you're trying to get me to send you a picture of my toes so you can jack off to them, but you're just gonna have to use google to get your rocks off tonight ;3

[Anonymous No.15194315]

>>15194262
You're cute when you're being coy. You know that, right?

[Anonymous No.15194388]

>>15194069
>t. Dirt farmer

[Anonymous No.15194390]

>>15194069
>t. Appalachian tenor

[Anonymous No.15194398]

>>15194069
>t. Gilbert Gottfried

[Anonymous No.15194404]

>>15194069
>t. LGBTQAnon

[Anonymous No.15194408]

>>15194069
>t. Self-flagellating Catholic

[Anonymous No.15194415]

>>15194069
>t. Tim Curry

[Anonymous No.15194419]

>>15194415
>>15194408
>>15194404
>>15194398
>>15194390
>>15194388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDeiMD9a7w&ab_channel=EtherealMutation

[Anonymous No.15194425]

>>15194069
>t. Phaal Curry

[Anonymous No.15194450]

>>15194069
>t. Mike's Judgement

[Anonymous No.15194455]

>>15194069
>t. Urologist

[Anonymous No.15194463]

>>15194069
>t. Eugenist

[Anonymous No.15194471]

>>15194069
>t. Alex Trebek and the Daily Doubles

[Anonymous No.15194484]

>>15194069
>t. Lloyd Kaufmann

[Anonymous No.15194496]

>>15194069
>t. Well prepared emergency planner

[Anonymous No.15194503]

>>15194069
>t. This user was panned for this roast

[Anonymous No.15194618]

>>15194069
>t. soggy bottom

[Anonymous No.15194705]

>>15194069
>t. Neville Longbottom

[Anonymous No.15194717]

>>15193516
i hate to break it to you but the world doesn't revolve around you and your day dreaming schizo fantasies

[Anonymous No.15194734]

>>15194069
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>t. hardcore internet environmentalist activist buzzword preacher

[Anonymous No.15194768]

>>15194069
>t. Navy Clubbed Seal

[Anonymous No.15194820]

>>15194069
>t. Kissed by a rose on the grey

[Anonymous No.15194829]

>>15194069
>t. Will never have sex with Heidi Klum

[Anonymous No.15195693]

hmm

[Anonymous No.15195702]

>>15193218
This is why we don't let vegans larp as scientists, they poison the well of nutritional knowledge

[Anonymous No.15195708]

>>15195702
since when did some anon nobody like you gatekeep all the research on nutrition?

[Anonymous No.15195717]

>>15195708
My mistake, this is why we *shouldn't* let leftists into any institution
They ignore the intended function of the institution and desperately try to use it to shove their ideology down the throats of the public

[Anonymous No.15195718]

>>15195702
>>15195717
Take your meds, schizo.

[Anonymous No.15195725]

>>15195717
>implying you have even the slightest clue about nutrition and not just larping as some credible expert

[Anonymous No.15195793]

>>15195725
>humans have been eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years, literally evolved to eat it, digestive system adapted to use meat as a primary source of nutrition and energy
>retarded faggots come along, feel bad for cows, and start trying to get people to believe eating meat is bad for you so we stop killing cows
Now the real question is whether you just need explicit permission from CNN and reddit before you use common sense or if you just don't any at all and let them spoonfeed you all your beliefs and feelings

[Anonymous No.15195800]

>>15193546
He only take meds that he made himself.

[Anonymous No.15195817]

>>15195793
Things change, mouthbreather. Humans have polluted the environment with carcinogens, which accumulate and concentrate up the food chain. Animal fat is no longer as safe as it was ten thousand years ago.

[Anonymous No.15195820]

>>15192355
Canola oil
Olive oil
Maybe some expensive niche oil that nobody uses but those two are the healthy ones.

>>15195793
The amount of meat is the most important part you stupid fuck. People ate WAY less meat back in the day.

>CNN and reddit
>muh straw man
Fuck right wingers are so fucking idiots that they can't make any arguments but always come up with straw men. Fuck you are fucking thick. Learn to argue, not make stuff up like little kids.

[Anonymous No.15195835]

we have a visit from gfs vegetarian relatives coming in. What would /ck/ recommend? I am genuinely not sure as we live on salmon and steaks with greens or occasional meat stews. pussy always related

[Anonymous No.15195837]

>>15195835
shit was meant to be its own thread, ignore

[Anonymous No.15195853]

>>15195817
>desperate mental gymnastics
Take your meds, there are no angry climate gods that will flood your city and send tornadoes after you if you refuse to eat bugs
>>15195820
People ate more meat if anything, at least you accept the fact that meat is a natural and necessary part of our diet
>fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fucking right wingers!
>learn to argue!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the absolute best the left has to offer
Jon (Liebowitz) Stewart would be proud lmao
In all seriousness, if I wanted your opinion on anything I could find it in five seconds by going on reddit. There is no new input you are even capable of offering
You should get outside more, real life is radically different than reddit's interpretation
Maybe you need to take a break from the internet, get some good sleep bro

[Anonymous No.15195866]

>>15192372
>oil from seeds is gross
You must be at least 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.15195870]

>>15193562
Good god

[Anonymous No.15195874]

>>15194094
>>15194618
>>15194088
>>15194108
>samefag retard

[Anonymous No.15197034]

OP here.
So, the gist seems to be that canola and olive are good, at lower/medium heats and in moderation. Same for butter. If I'm putting something in the stove then use lard? I don't know what tallow/ghee is. What else am I missing? I read posts about animal fats but that seems trickier to acquire than it seems.

[Anonymous No.15197085]

Stay away from seed oil. Canola is not good, even tho "better" for frying. Grow to love bacon fat and tallow.

[Anonymous No.15197387]

>>15192355
Olive oil is fucking delicious. Anytime you can use it, you probably should.

[Anonymous No.15197395]

>>15195853
>desperate mental gymnastics
Facts don't care about your fee-fees, snowflake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomagnification

[Anonymous No.15197400]

>>15197085
>Grow to love bacon fat and tallow.
Wrong. Consuming animal fat leads to cancer and heart disease. Stick to plant-based fats.

[Anonymous No.15197408]

>>15193500
>muh gmos
There’s literally nothing wrong with gmos, Luddite retard. You think corn and carrots and shit are “natural”? They’ve been selectively bred for generations into something very different from what was found in the wild. Genetic modification just speeds up the process.

[Anonymous No.15197711]

>>15197034
Canola oil for frying and other stuff where taste isn't as important. It can take heat.
Olive oil for taste.
Butter for occasional baking. Oils don't have the same consistency or taste.

Seed oils are better than animal fats unless you're into alt-facts. Fats are extremely energy dense no matter what, so you should use them sparingly regardless of the kind.

[Anonymous No.15197866]

>>15197408
>he thinks being roundup ready is the same as selective breeding

[Anonymous No.15197904]

>>15197395
>f-f-facts don't care about your feelings f-fascist, look at my source!
>Wikipedia
OOF

[Anonymous No.15197931]

>>15197904
Silvy, Nova J., ed. (2012). The Wildlife Techniques Manual: Research. 1 (7th ed.). Baltimore, Maryland: The Johns Hopkins University Press. pp. 154–155. ISBN 978-1-4214-0159-1.
Landrum, PF and SW Fisher, 1999. Influence of lipids on the bioaccumulation and trophic transfer of organic contaminants in aquatic organisms. Chapter 9 in MT Arts and BC Wainman. Lipids in fresh water ecosystems. Springer Verlag, New York.
Croteau, M., S. N. Luoma, and A. R Stewart. 2005. Trophic transfer of metals along freshwater food webs: Evidence of cadmium biomagnification in nature. Limnol. Oceanogr. 50 (5): 1511-1519.
Suedel, B.C., Boraczek, J.A., Peddicord, R.K., Clifford, P.A. and Dillon, T.M., 1994. Trophic transfer and biomagnification potential of contaminants in aquatic ecosystems. Reviews of Environmental Contamination and Toxicology 136: 21–89.
Gray, J.S., 2002. Biomagnification in marine systems: the perspective of an ecologist. Mar. Pollut. Bull. 45: 46–52.
Fisk AT, Hoekstra PF, Borga K,and DCG Muir, 2003. Biomagnification. Mar. Pollut. Bull. 46 (4): 522-524

[Anonymous No.15197947]

>>15197931
Ok and? None of those prove your claim that meat is unsafe for human consumption. You copying references from Wikipedia without actually reading the studies just proves how fucking retarded you are
you fell for an exaggerated meme pushed by progs that feel bad for the poor animals. Sad!
I accept your concession though

[Anonymous No.15197975]

>>15197947
>your claim that meat is unsafe for human consumption
Link to this "claim" of mine? You are clearly incapable of scientific thinking and rational discourse.

[Anonymous No.15197996]

>>15197975
I'm not the guy you're arguing with but following the conversation backwards somone (presumably you) claimed meat is harmful here: >>15195820

Anyway it is clear you're a vegan so you unfortunately can't be rational in this discussion.

[Anonymous No.15198004]

>>15197975
I was stating that meat is good for humans and safe for human consumption
In response you threw a fit and then started linking Wikipedia and references on there you didn't bother reading as if they somehow supported something you now claim you weren't claiming. Scientific thinking isn't reading random Wikipedia articles and taking them as the Word of God like some schizophrenic, you're out of your element
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.15198033]

>>15197996
I didn't make that post. But the post doesn't claim meat is unsafe for human consumption, either.

>Anyway it is clear you're a vegan
Yet further evidence that you are incapable of scientific thinking and rational discourse.

>>15198004
False. If you're going to lie, at least try to make it plausible.

[Anonymous No.15198047]

>>15198033
Scientifically speaking, vegans are histrionic liars. Anyone telling you that meat is bad in any quantity is either a lying vegan or a dupe who fell for vegan propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15198053]

>>15198047
Yet further evidence that you are incapable of scientific thinking and rational discourse. I never even mentioned veganism.

[Anonymous No.15198065]

>>15198053
The claim that meat is bad is a lie. The originators of that lie are vegans. They told the lie to trick people into not eating meat.

Same thing with lies about eggs, dairy, and saturated fat in general. Vegan lies.

If you're having difficulting with reading comprehension let me know where you're stumbling and I'll try to help.

[Anonymous No.15198076]

>>15198065
>The claim that meat is bad
Again, link? You seem strikingly incapable of scientific thinking and rational discourse.

[Anonymous No.15198080]

>>15198033
What's false? That you didn't read the references you referred to?
>Silvy, Nova J., ed. (2012). The Wildlife Techniques Manual: Research. 1 (7th ed.). Baltimore, Maryland: The Johns Hopkins University Press. pp. 154–155. ISBN 978-1-4214-0159-1.
Copy and paste what is on these pages you used as a reference for your claims
If you take longer than 1 minute we'll know you didn't read it or even have it at the time you made that post
Now why would you post references as if they supported your claims when you didn't even read them? Doesn't seem very scientific to me. Seems like you're trying to use the authority of science to push your ideological views without doing even basic research
But please, keep responding. We're all very interested in what a man with a PhD in nutrition from Wikipedia University has to say

[Anonymous No.15198085]

>>15198080
Imagine posting all that text to say nothing.

[Anonymous No.15198090]

>>15198085
Imagine posting without a response
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.15198094]

>>15198090
Your position is that biomagnification is some sort of hoax?

[Anonymous No.15198122]

>>15198076
Right here: >>15195820

You seem to struggle with English literacy. This isn't a scientific discussion. You're actually just not reading or understanding basic English conversation.

[Anonymous No.15198124]

>>15198080
Do you not have access to an academic library?

"The trophic level at which the animal feeds is a major factor in contaminant exposure, with higher trophic level animals susceptible to biomagnification of contaminants."

[Anonymous No.15198125]

>>15198094
>evasive tactics
Are you going to explain why you started posting references you didn't even read as if they supported your claim? How exactly is that scientific or rational? Seems more like blind faith than anything
My position is that meat is good for humans and safe for consumption, don't try to strawman, its pathetic

[Anonymous No.15198132]

>>15198122
I didn't post that, brainlet. Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.15198140]

>>15198125
>Are you going to explain why you started posting references you didn't even read as if they supported your claim?
What you don't seem to grasp is that I did read the references, and that they do support the claims I made. If you were not functionally illiterate, you would know that.

[Anonymous No.15198153]

>>15198124
Why do you think this is relevant to the discussion? Western people mostly eat cow, pig, and chicken.

Ruminant meat is without a doubt the healthiest and most nutritious food source for humans.

You're clearly some brain damaged vegan who is beating around the bush and unwilling to make any explicit argument. You know you are wrong and only wish to trick and decieve people.

>>15198140
What claim are you making? All I see is you disavowing the claims that you seemed to be defending. Now you say those aren't your claims.

[Anonymous No.15198159]

>>15198153
>Why do you think this is relevant to the discussion?
You're joking right? Either that or you are mentally disabled.

[Anonymous No.15198164]

>>15198140
You didn't though, you copy pasted them from wikipedia
Don't try to pretend you didn't
Took you long enough to actually find them after I called you out on it though
Why are you so desperate to save face about this? This is an anonymous board, just admit you were wrong and move on
its ok to be wrong

[Anonymous No.15198168]

>>15198153
>What claim are you making?
Are you drunk? You don't seem to be following the discussion. The claim is that carcinogens accumulate up the food chain in a process called biomagnification.

[Anonymous No.15198174]

>>15198164
What on earth are you blathering about?

[Anonymous No.15198191]

>>15198159
>vaguely hints at something that might be relevant to the discussion
>hedges like crazy, unwilling to make a firm statement about anything because he'll immediately be proven wrong
>references studies from the 90s to prove his point that he claims he's not even making
Don't worry, everyone reading your posts knows exactly who the mentally disabled one is

[Anonymous No.15198206]

>>15198159
>>15198168
I wonder if you have the self-awareness to understand how slimy and dishonest you appear.

[Anonymous No.15198211]

>>15198168
Holy shit! Meat has carcinogens! Watch out! Just like every product sold in california! Its gonna fucking kill you bro!
Eat bugs, or better yet, just eat soi!

[Anonymous No.15198213]

>>15198191
You are incapable of scientific thinking. You think in terms of "X good", "X bad" like an ignorant Negro. Attributions of goodness or badness are not empirical claims subject to corroboration or falsification. The empirical claim being made is that carcinogens accumulate up the food chain in animal fat stores. This is basic biology. Numerous references were posted if you want to familiarize yourself with the subject matter.

[Anonymous No.15198219]

>>15198206
Come on man, you've seen his posts. These types can't let things go when their ego has been hurt
He knows he's wrong, he's just mad that he was called out and embarrassed so he's trying to save face

[Anonymous No.15198225]

>>15198206
>>15198219
Not an argument, samefag. You have no arguments, just autistic screeching.

[Anonymous No.15198228]

>>15198211

Imagine being a ((manufacturer of warning labels)) in CA before they started that nonsense. You might have even become rich enough to... leave CA and never go back.

[Anonymous No.15198241]

>>15198213
Yeah brother I'm going to use those three 20 year old studies to base my nutrition decisions off of instead of common sense. Because there is nothing else relevant, just those studies you copied from Wikipedia without reading, that's all that determines whether meat is good and safe for human consumption or not
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm going to become a vegetarian now
I should have earlier, all the vegetarians I know look so healthy and full of vitality, not at all like dying AIDS patients
Thanks again Mr. Wikipedia university alumni!

[Anonymous No.15198262]

>>15198241
You lack the ratiocinative rigor need to engage in discussion of this kind. Rather than addressing specific empirical claims, you keep trying to turn the conversation back to the simplistic "good vs bad" thinking that is the comfort zone of the intellectually impaired.

[Anonymous No.15198272]

>>15198262
No one gives a shit about your gay biomagnification
Meat is good, tasty, and safe for human consumption
Even if a few vegan scientists tried to scare people away from it a couple decades ago

[Anonymous No.15198283]

>>15198272

[Anonymous No.15198307]

>>15198124
'warm water has higher temperature than cold water' duh, still doesn't mean i have to shower in cold water does it?

[Anonymous No.15198331]

>>15198307
Warm water is not more carcinogenic than cold water.

[Anonymous No.15198347]

>>15198331
technically it is you dumb fuck as it speeds up free oxygen radical creation by default. just stop trolling and get on with your life.

[Anonymous No.15198381]

>>15198347
False.

[Anonymous No.15198386]

>>15198381
false.

[Anonymous No.15198451]

>>15198381
You sound like a huge faggot