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https://www.france24.com/en/20191231-french-chef-loses-cheddar-gate-lawsuit-over-michelin-star-demotion

>The case, which came to be called "Cheddar-gate" in France, was sparked when the celebrity chef discovered at the start of this year that he had lost one of his three stars - the maximum number of stars that can be awarded - when the 110th edition of the respected guide was published at the start of this year.

>Veyrat claimed the downgrade came after a Michelin inspector mistakenly thought he had adulterated a cheese souffle with English Cheddar instead of using France's Reblochon, Beaufort and Tomme varieties.

Why do the frogs seethe over the worlds best cheese, Cheddar?

>> No.15181016

france is still mad over 1976

>> No.15181047

>>15180995
that guy looks like if Ossie Osborne didn't do enough drugs

>> No.15181053
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15181053

French cheese tastes weird.

>> No.15181065

>>15181053
They liked mild, strange smelling cheeses that have almost no salt added to them.
Compare this to the Cheddarchad Cheese, a strongly flavoured and excellent tasting dairy product.

>> No.15181103

>>15180995
That's not why he lost the star. He just can't handle that fact that he's not a three star chef anymore. That's why he invented this absurdity about the cheddar cheese. It's well known in France, people make fun of him.

>> No.15181114

I thought most michelin star chefs commit suicide at the peak of their careers? Why hasn't this guy just taken the shortcut out of his predicament like everyone else?

>> No.15181118

>>15181053
EWWWW BLUE CHEESE
ICKY
IT'S SPOILED CHEESE
YOU'RE EATING MOLD
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>> No.15181123

>>15181065
no anglophone person knows anything about good cheese

>> No.15181141

>>15181103
I remember when he did a tv show in the 90's where he showed he was using sous vide for his customers in his restaurants. That nearly bankrupt him, people refusing to pay outrageous prices for "microwave food". Took 2 years to get his customers back.

>> No.15181147

>>15180995
Why does anyone think the Michelin Guide matters? It's an anachronism.

>> No.15181149

For less than the cost of a souffle at this man's restaurant, you can buy a loaf of fresh bread and some good cheddar cheese, which you will enjoy much more.

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15181158

>>15181149

>> No.15181162

>>15181123
>cheddar? no I'm afraid I'm not familiar with its specific excellency...
*best selling cheese ever*
>ahem, have you had brie? it smells of jizz and as such it is a delicate and gay addition to any charcuterie

>> No.15181166

>>15181149
i will never enjoy cheddar cheese
cheddar cheese belongs in the gutter, where it came from

>> No.15181171

>>15181158
i wanna rape that baby
does that make me a bad person?

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>>15181162
>on /ck/
>can't come up with a weirder cheese than fucking Brie

>> No.15181190

>>15181176
>heh---heh yeah smells like semen, naw you have to be obscure and 'weird', better luck next time gg
eat shit, frog

>> No.15181196

>>15181065
Camembert owns your faggot-assed cheese.

>> No.15181197

>>15181176
Limburger is actually my favorite cheese. People say it smells like dirty socks, or ass, or whatever. It's actually good when you taste it.

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15181199

Why are the french so sensitive about cheese?

>> No.15181210

>>15181199
The whole country is cheese-based. If your country was cheese-based, wouldn't you be sensitive about it? You would.

>> No.15181223

>>15181190
You really think Brie smells like cum? I thought that was just some random insult.

>> No.15181230

>>15181210
They would still have wine and STDs and burning down monuments

>> No.15181231

>>15181223
I'm gay (not sure if that matters). I know what cum smells like. Brie does not smell like cum.

>> No.15181246

>>15181231
t. incel

>> No.15181248

>>15180995
Why would the michelin guy care where the cheese comes from so long as it tastes great?

>> No.15181258

>>15181199
The french are sensitive about every aspect of their culture, because in reality it is mostly unremarkable compared to any other european culture, but is held aloft entirely by their collective belief that it is the best

>> No.15181267

>>15181141
So National Lampoon's European Vacation wasn't kidding during the french segment...

>> No.15181286

>>15181258
The Onion put it best when describing France's perception of itself
>One Country, Above God

>> No.15181299

>>15181286
i wish i could feel so arrogant
usually i get heart palpitations ordering food at mcdonald's

>> No.15181323

>>15181123
England invented cheese. All other cheese is a simulation of cheese. American cheese is the closest to the real thing.

>> No.15181355

>>15181147
Just like all award shows, then.

>> No.15181370

>>15181286
I've never heard of any "god" surrendering as much as the French.

>> No.15181438

Why are Americans seething so much over a small European country?

>> No.15181505

>>15181147
Michelin is ignorant's way to spent their money "the rich way".
But they are dying as an institution now with internet reviews, every year a new former 3star guy decides to tell them to fuck off and do their own shit the way they want, because the criteria are only like 30% about the food these days, you lose points for bad decoration, cheap silverware, or even if the flowers are not changed every day.

>> No.15181530

>>15181171
no it makes you human

>> No.15181539

>>15181047
Kek

>> No.15181543

>>15181438
>small
It's one third of Europe. Which, if combined with the other two thirds, England and Germany, is about the size of America.

>> No.15181549

>>15181505
Michelin was only given this importance by the chefs themselves. They never pretended to be something else than a guide for truckers that like to eat well. At the beginning they were offering the guide to buyers of a set of tires. So it's funny how they act as if Michelin is arrogant when they are actually the ones with the diva attitude, crying because they went from three to two stars in a guide made by a tire company.

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>>15181323

>> No.15181568

>>15181543
Nice b8 m8

>> No.15181588

>>15181568
I'm serious. Yes, if you add in the populations of the lesser-known, adjacent countries, like Spain and Poland, you easily get to 300 million.

>> No.15181596

>>15181568
oh and italy. Then they actually have more people.

>> No.15181606

>>15181149
Kek

>> No.15181627

>>15181568
He's right though, those are the only 3 nations in Europe that matter and are relevant on the world stage, Italy doesn't matter but they get an honoary mention for creating the best food in europe
Get fucked frenchfags, you eat frogs and snails like some kind of third worlder or chinese

>> No.15181764

Cheddar is garbage tier cheese, why do brits pretend it's good? The texture is crap no matter how old it is and it tastes bland AF. Unless they dye it, it also looks sickly pale, like a brit. The only positive thing that can be said about it is that it doesn't reek.

>> No.15181803

>>15181764
stop buying oil cheese, you probably buy shit cheese that separates when heated

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15181807

>>15181563
>>>>>>>>google

>> No.15181832

>>15181563
China lie about everything, they claim to have invented literally fucking everything before anyone else but then they decided to not use any of it until white people "re-invented it" an showed them how useful their own inventions were? Absolute bullshit

>> No.15181836

>>15180995
>decades of culinary experience while retaining the highest honors
>Precisely mix three varieties of french cheeses to achieve the ideal cheese flavor profile
>only source from the most exclusive and expensive french dairies
>Get BTFO by some bongs and farmers in Wisconsin

It's amazing because they're basically admitting the vast superiority of cheddar cheeses. When used in a high end kitchen, cheddar has the same ramifications of a PED scandal in sports. When will the French admit they're just shit at cheese making?

>> No.15181853

>>15181764
>Not indulging in 15yr aged wisconsin cheddar that literally explodes with flavor.

Why even live?

>> No.15181874

>>15181853
>Why even live?

To eat better cheeses, such as very old gouda, old amsterdam, mimolette, comte, chechil, manchego, pecorino...

>> No.15181879

>>15181563
>China
>Inventing
You need to be better at spotting the signs when you are being rused.

>> No.15181900

>>15181832
Chinese discovered it hundreds of years later.

>> No.15181914

>>15181853
If you have to keep your cheese for 15 years to get flavor, you're not making it right.

>> No.15181915

>>15181053
American

>> No.15181920

>>15181874
Lol I've had everything you've listed in the country of origin, except chechil I guess.

Calling them definitively better is a joke. I'm not saying that cheddar is the undisputed winner, but if you truly think it is bottom rung you are mistaken. Also Gouda has to be the most overrated cheese of all time.

>> No.15181932

>>15181016
What happened in 1976?

>> No.15181935

>>15181914
You're right that's why people never age whisky past 1 year and vintage wines are so cheap.

Nothing that tastes good ever takes a long time to produce, or originally started as something unappealing.

Also there are plenty of cheddars that are delicious without extreme aging. I was just being hyperbolic in my example. It was literally one of the best things I've eaten, let alone cheeses.

It's so funny that this one cheese triggers you so much.

>> No.15181985

>>15181935
Cheese isn't whisky.
Ever tried a 15 year old stew?
15 years triggers me. Are you just into teenagers?

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15182039

>>15181053
you taste weird

>> No.15182206

>>15181932
The French cheese famine. Read a book friend

>> No.15182213

>>15180995
>Le guide
Go back.

>> No.15182907

>>15182206
Try going outside, friend.

>> No.15184208

>>15180995
>cheese souffle

>> No.15184413

>>15181920
>Gouda
>Overrated
Pleb filtered

>> No.15184435

>>15181874
recently had comte for the first time. i loved it and i was finally able to understand what people refer to when they say something has a nutty flavor

>> No.15184462

>>15180995
They're right though, cheddar is a subpar cheese.

>> No.15184464

>>15181853
>wisconsin
>cheddar

lmao americans are fucking pathetic

>> No.15184472

>>15181118
where's the lie

>> No.15184475

>>15180995
I'd be extremely disapointed too if I were served cheddar instead of superior French cheese.

>> No.15184631

>>15181985
>Ever tried a 15 year old stew.

Dude I've had stew that was like 600 years old in spain. It's called an eternal pot.

>> No.15184641

>>15181147
this. the french can stick thier tire company to thier ass.

>> No.15184717

>>15181563
cheese was produced in egypt long before than china

>> No.15184746

>>15181438
Because a land with actual culture make Americans insecure about their self-perceived superiority.

>>15181258
>The french are sensitive about every aspect of their culture, because in reality it is mostly unremarkable compared to any other european culture
>>15181836
>It's amazing because they're basically admitting the vast superiority of cheddar cheeses. When used in a high end kitchen, cheddar has the same ramifications of a PED scandal in sports. When will the French admit they're just shit at cheese making?
I wonder if everyone that says such things are trolls, or if some are actually this deluded.

>> No.15184785

>>15184746
just your average anglo seething about the french

>> No.15184799

>>15184785
You nonwhites preferring the worst slavers over the guys who ended slavery just because anglos are important is proof oppression doesn't matter to you and you're just seething over whites being superior.

>> No.15184801

>>15184799
What the fuck are you talkin about you schizo retard?

>> No.15184805

>>15184799
wtf is this guy talking about

>> No.15184816

>>15184801
>>15184805
English ended slavery and the french were the worst when it came to slavery, I know your nonwhite brains are barely functional but it can't be this hard to understand

>> No.15184822

>>15184805
something something da joos

>> No.15184825

>>15184816
You have a serious mental disease dude. What you say barely makes sense.

>> No.15184828

>>15184816
>English ended slavery
So did France
>the french were the worst when it came to slavery
Delusion
>I know your nonwhite brains are barely functional but it can't be this hard to understand
Schizophrenia

>> No.15184829

>>15180995
Frogs hate cheddar because it isn't moldy and in wheel form

>> No.15184832

>>15184475
>ooh la la! je prefere le bad milk francais honhonhon

>> No.15184842

>>15184832
Im not french you retarded britcunt

>> No.15184858

>>15184825
Anyone with a basic knowledge of history and geopolitics knows what het is talking about, and he is right.

>> No.15184861

>>15184858
Stop samefagging anglo retard

>> No.15185104

>>15181231
>I'm guy, that makes me an expert on all things culinary
Yeah, fuck you, buddy.

>> No.15185135

>>15181147
They matter as they can bring in the business but chefs seem to hate them as they put on huge amount of pressure on the establishment and like all awards the reviewers can be catered too.

>> No.15185141

>>15181563
>chinks
>dairy
pick one

>> No.15185157

>>15182907
I do go outside, frequently, enemy. Don't try to fool yourself into believing your ignorance is a virtue because of your active outdoorsman lifestyle.

>> No.15185365

>>15181147
this, it's a fucking tire company

>> No.15185386

>>15181053
Ah yes, the famous french cheese

>> No.15185399

>>15181053
what the fuck is the french cheese

>> No.15185596

>>15181147
>>15184641
>>15185365
Because it does matter. There is huge media attention given to it and whoever wins/loses stars.

The question is as dumb as "Why does anyone think free publicity matters? It's *insert stupid reason*".

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15185611

>something-gate

>> No.15185613

>>15181920
It's not THE worst, that'd be something like bra tenero, gorgonzola or kefalograviera, but it's still mediocre at best. You can improve it a bit by melting (like most cheeses) or turning it into a cheese product like porter cheddar, I guess.

>> No.15185651

>>15185613
>It's not THE worst, that'd be something like ... gorgonzola ...
>You can improve it a bit by melting (like most cheeses) or turning it into a cheese product like porter cheddar, I guess.
Thanks for letting us know that your opinion on cheeses does not matter at all.

>> No.15185930

>>15184861
Not samefagging. Im not a dirty anglo. Dutch master race here, cuckyboiiiiiiiiii

>> No.15185951

>>15181563
China also invented gunpowder but they were too retarded to do anything with it so look where we are now.

>> No.15186010

>>15185930
>anglo saxons aren't germanic

>> No.15186059

>>15186010
to seethe, perchance to cope

>> No.15186060

>>15181053
>French cheese
Implying there's only one type of cheese. Dumb American.

>> No.15186067

>>15181199
Because contrary to America, France does have a culture of sorts.

>> No.15186069

>>15186059
Nice anglo literature reference :^)

>> No.15186070

>>15181114
can someone explain this to me?
like why are fancy snack makers so emo?
is it the competition ?
is it karma for making expensive tasty snacks?
is it marketing pressure?

i have worked in some of these places, seen the dark side of the snack makers, and still do not understand

>> No.15186074

>>15181118
not wrong blue cheese is objectively bad

>> No.15186075

>>15184816
Take your meds.

>> No.15186077

>>15185651
Gorgonzola is rotten trash

>> No.15186087

>>15181932
Burgerfat wine from the Napa Valley won against frog wine in an official taste test. I remember watching some shitty movie about it.

>> No.15186092

>>15181171
hmmmmmm
idk man, i have to think about that one

>> No.15186097

>>15181199
STOP POSTING THIS WANKER

>> No.15186101

>>15181171
Why would you do that? Babies smell awful.

>> No.15186104

>>15186087
The judgement of paris

Is what youre thinking of

>> No.15186105

>>15180995
this guy probably just put a story up to get people interested in cheese,
he seems smart/reflective and kind of off in nature like a shaman
In school i learned he refused the 20 points from Gault et Millau, saying something like his humanity and imperfectness are what makes his art unique - therefore rejects the concept of a 20/20 and hopes these systems arent stressing out other cooks

>> No.15186107

>>15186075
He's right though, oppression isn't real, or at least isn't what people who meme about it actually care about

>> No.15186110

>>15186104
>burgerfat win 1 (one) competition 45 years ago
>can't shut up about it

Not insecure at all btw :^)

>> No.15186160

>>15186070
post stories of the dark side of the snack makers

>> No.15186163

>>15186110
The real reason why frogs are still buttmad about it is because deep down, they see it as a watershed event leading up to the current situation where even a Barossa or Colchagua wine can easily match any French wine in quality at a lower price tag. Historical pedigree and nationalism-driven domestic consumption are all they have going for them at this point.

>> No.15186171

>>15186163
>Historical pedigree and nationalism-driven domestic consumption are all they have going for them at this point.
I mean that's kind of europe in general

>> No.15186189

>>15180995
You listen to me everyone and you listen good. I'm in my daughter's underwear with a big stiffy. Big stiffy. She's at school. They're so tight they HURT. Oowww. Ouch. Fuck yeah. I'm in my daughter's underwear.

I'm sick. A sick pervert. It's gotta be taboo. I'll cut my foreskin off.

>> No.15186203

>>15186163
>The real reason why frogs are still buttmad about it
No French people has ever heard about it, brother.

>> No.15186297

>>15186069
That wasnt me (Dutch God ) but it sure triggers you hard... Why?

>> No.15186313

>>15186163

>Historical pedigree and nationalism-driven domestic consumption are all they have going for them at this point

>at this point

Senpai, I...

>> No.15186315

>>15181505
COPE

>> No.15186997

>>15186203
>>15186163
True that. I have never heard of it until a burger pointed it out to me. I dont believe French bottles are inherently better than any other country's mind you. In the end its just fermented grape juice.

>> No.15187047

>>15181047
Kek

>> No.15187883

>>15181563
what that doesn't make sense they're all fucking lactose intolerant over there

>> No.15187911

>>15181199
The French got butthurt over cheese because of the Swiss cheese cartel and the 1970s electric fondue pot.

Not even joking.

>> No.15187951

>>15181149
lmao

>> No.15187972

>>15184746
stay made frogfag

>> No.15188102

>>15181149
based

>> No.15188212

>>15184631
They saw you coming. Onions and garlic start fermenting and going really sour after a while.

>> No.15188302

>>15181874
got my Cougar Gold from 2014 just waiting...waiting

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>>15184464
be sure to BTFO as America wrecks your standing in the world, much like the 1976 Judgement of Paris

>> No.15189199

>>15181299
If you order food at better quality restaurants, your heart palpitations might just go away.

>> No.15189233

>>15181176
And to think some people name their girls after it.

>> No.15189245

>>15181053
>>15181065
I never really thought much about it, but I always thought French cheese was kinda shit. I can't really think of any other country that produces a respectable amount of cheese that is worse, including America.

>> No.15189295

>>15185135
Michelin Reviewers are in disguise though. It’s not like the health inspector from spongebob.

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>>15180995
I recognize that hat.

>> No.15189543

>>15180995
yo them tire people are retarded. who the hell as a 1-3 rating system. that's just stoopid. it's either 5 stars or 2 thumbs ya retard

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>>15186070
fancy snack makers are emo because no one is making fancy snacks for them :(
also its just an incredibly stressful and intense job in general

>> No.15190077

>>15181141
fucking french lmao

>> No.15190088

real cheddar is pretty good

>>15186160
sure
>good chef
>start restaurant
>awarded michelin star within 6 months
>everything goes well
>good food, good staff, good atmosphere
>best restaurant in the area
>one day go out on cycling with friends
>can't keep up with friends
>pain
>decide to see doctor
>doctor say you have cancer
>its terminal
>you have 3 months left to live
>die at 50 years old
>restaurant fails to capture your vision without you
>together with you, the spirit of the restaurant has passed

>> No.15190127

>>15181065
> Cheddarchad Cheese
Not "chaddar"?

>> No.15190246

>>15186060
there are 3 types of cheese
>french cheese
>swiss cheese
>american cheese

>> No.15190303

>>15188329
Barely any cheeses took part in that competition.

>> No.15190317

>>15181853
why do americans complain about british cuisine so much if they worship british cheese like this

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>>15181118
Blue cheese is yucky.

>> No.15190332

>>15181171
Maybe.

>> No.15190357

>>15188329
i sleep

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>>15181053
There are hundreds of them, opinion discarded for lack of specificity

>> No.15190787

>>15190765
Yeah moldy cheese, snails,shit paste that's why french restaurants don't exist outside frogachmedland

>> No.15190809

>>15190787
>that's why french restaurants don't exist outside frogachmedland
huh?

>> No.15190835

>>15190809
Oh yeah you got greasy potatoes cooked in gutteroil and soggysugarbread too how classy

>> No.15190852

>>15190835
Your attempt at trolling is childish and laughable. Cringe!

>> No.15190876

>>15189245
>"French cheese"
they don't have 1 cheese like amerifat, they have dozens of cheeses like most countries in Europe.

>> No.15190883

>>15190876
And they all suck and can't pass health and safety inspection in the USA

>> No.15190889

>>15190883
>can't pass health and safety inspection in the USA
based

>> No.15190907

>>15186060
>Implying there's only one type of cheese.
No it's not, dumb esl.

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>>15190883
>health and safety inspection in the USA

>> No.15191023

If it ain't raw milk cheese, it ain't cheese. Simple as.

>> No.15191250

>>15186203
That's because the memory is too traumatic. Look at this cope:
>Although Spurrier had invited many reporters to the original 1976 tasting, the only reporter to attend was George M. Taber from Time, who promptly revealed the results to the world.[13] The horrified and enraged leaders of the French wine industry then banned Spurrier from the nation's prestigious wine-tasting tour for a year, apparently as punishment for the damage his tasting had done to its former image of superiority.[2] The tasting was not covered by the French press, who almost ignored the story. After nearly three months, Le Figaro published an article titled "Did the war of the cru take place?" describing the results as "laughable", and said they "cannot be taken seriously".[3] Six months after the tasting, Le Monde wrote a similarly toned article.[3]

>The New York Times reported that several earlier tastings had occurred in the U.S., with American chardonnays judged ahead of their French rivals. One such tasting occurred in New York just six months before the Paris tasting, but "champions of the French wines argued that the tasters were Americans with possible bias toward American wines. What is more, they said, there was always the possibility that the Burgundies had been mistreated during the long trip from the (French) wineries." The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 had a revolutionary impact on expanding the production and prestige of wine in the New World.[2] It also "gave the French a valuable incentive to review traditions that were sometimes more accumulations of habit and expediency, and to reexamine convictions that were little more than myths taken on trust."[3]

Suddenly wine tasting is too subjective even though it wasn't a problem before, and americans are somehow more biased about their wine than the french, despite all this asspain.

>> No.15191272

>>15191250
It's nice for the USA to have the 1976 tasting and the 2019 cheese award. At least that's 2 things to be proud of in the culinary world. Not that it matters much against France's 1000s of things.

>> No.15191281

>>15191272
The point is that the french cannot be trusted at all for what is best, if they throw a tantrum and deny everything. There are tons of other wine tasting contests, not just french ones.

>> No.15191285

>>15191281
and yet americans love the humble french fry

>> No.15191290

>>15191250
Look, nobody's denying that americans can make great wines and great cheese, and that's cool.
But Americans coming at us saying they make better wine and better cheese than us, using those 2 quite irrelevant competitions as proof, is just kinda pathetic. We're not insecure at all about that.

>> No.15191296

>>15191272
>Your best things don't compare with our thousands of not-best things

>> No.15191297

>>15191296
>reading comprehension

>> No.15191299

>>15191285
>>15191290
See? This is the kind of cope I'm talking about. You live in a bubble, and will never admit it.

>> No.15191303

>>15191299
>wake up sheeple!!
Sinking lower and lower after every post.

>> No.15191445

>>15191299
>You live in a bubble, and will never admit it.
Projecting hard

>> No.15191478

As ridiculous as it is, its still not as bad as Italians.

>> No.15191505

>>15180995
do frogs really look and dress like this?

>> No.15191522

>>15190317
I don’t, also the cheddar I had was an american variant. Not that it matters.

I’ve been to the UK several times, and enjoyed it thoroughly.

>> No.15191534

>>15190765
I've discarded every one of those cheeses

>> No.15191539

>>15190765
They all taste weird.

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>>15191534
>>15191539
>samefagging

>> No.15191573

can anyone even name the 5 best french cheeses and tell me why americans don't make it better? even our meunster cheese is better

>> No.15191579

>>15191573
Because no one can name 5 american cheeses.

>> No.15191588

>>15191579
Cheese wiz, cheez it, wisconsin cheese, cheddar and swiss american. Now answer the question anon

>> No.15191591

>a tire company is the "authority" on food

>> No.15191603

>>15191579
colby
monterey jack
cheese curds
philadelphia cream cheese
string cheese

america isn't old enough to have invented most cheeses, but we have perfected the process and have greater quality and variety than most nations

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>>15191603
>colby
>monterey jack
>cheese curds
>philadelphia cream cheese
>string cheese
kek

>we have perfected the process and have greater quality and variety than most nations
So delusional

>> No.15191630

>>15191603
>cheese curds
>american

>philadelphia cream cheese
>cheese

>string cheese
american

>> No.15191645

>>15191603
The average american only has kraft singles in his fridge and will never have anything else, stop acting like the US have a serious cheese culture

>> No.15191656

>>15191573
>>15191603
>cheese curds
>string cheese
>we have perfected the process and have greater quality
LOL, this must be trolling, probably a frog under false flag.

>> No.15191661

>>15191656
No, americans are THIS delusional and THIS dishonest

>> No.15191728

I still haven't heard a single French cheese that's worth a damn

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>>15191603

>> No.15191768

>>15191728
Everyone knows you are trolling:
>can anyone even name the 5 best french cheeses and tell me why americans don't make it better? even our meunster cheese is better
You can't pretend you don't know french cheeses and pretend american are better at the same time.

If you don't know french cheeses, it's just obvious your opinion on cheese doesn't matter. So move on to a fast food thread or something.

>> No.15191788

>>15191768
you guys are all completely useless if you can't even name 5 french cheeses. I can name like 20 but I hate about 18 of them. all of my favorite cheeses are either italian or swiss made or some american variety of european cheese. french cheese is almost all terrible garbage. please go on, you can't even name 5 good cheeses from France, and the ones that you can even name are all made better in America

>> No.15191839

>>15191788
>and the ones that you can even name are all made better in America
It's not possible to make cheeses like roquefort, camembert, fourme d'ambert, brie de meux or brie de melun in America, idiot.

>> No.15191921

>>15191839
that's because we believe in modern food standards in the US

>> No.15191925

>>15191839
you can find all of these cheeses you just to dig in the bottom of the garbage in cities like NY, especially near the bay. the fresh air combines with the mold to give it that earthy flavor

>> No.15191950

>>15181118
blue cheese sucks and I've tried it several times. It tastes like rot every time.

>> No.15192004

>>15191921
Modern food standards like producing chicken under extremely unsanitary conditions so that it has to be washed with chlorine to be considered safe?

>> No.15192143

Not in a million years would yuropoors have dreamed of making pepperjack.

>> No.15192168

>>15191925
Why are you so mad about cheese ? How can one hate 18 out of 20 types of cheese ? And why do you care that much about telling everyone on the internet about your loath of french cheese ?

>> No.15192642

>>15192168
18 out of 20 types of french cheese is more mold than it is cheese. it's all nonsense. they had nothing better to do it seems

>> No.15192683

>>15192004
C'mon now, the fecal soup dip is the only thing that gives factory farmed chicken any flavor at all.

>> No.15192733

>>15191522
>was an american variant
of a british cheese tho

>> No.15192883

>>15191290
>We're not insecure at all about that.
You know, I'm not too proud to admit that shitty French commodity wine ("vin ordinaire") is marginally better than shitty American commodity wine.

>> No.15193319

>>15181118
You can get used to anything but ammonia is an acquired taste.

>> No.15193438

>>15181248
>Why would the michelin guy care where the cheese comes from so long as it tastes great?

Michelin guide has nothing to do with food being delicious and everything to do with food being maximum pretentious.

>> No.15193463

>>15186060
>Implying there's only one type of cheese
Cheese is plural dumbass

>> No.15193477

>>15193463

Yeah, it's like "geese".

>> No.15193530

>>15188329
Reminds me of all the ass mad New Yorkers and
Chicagoans when they got beat by Windsor, Ontario at the world pizza expo for traditional slice.

>> No.15193557

>>15193477
>geese -> goose
>cheese -> choose
hmm