/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15131168]

There's literally nothing wrong with boiling sausages.

And none of you pretentious fucks can convince me otherwise.

[Anonymous No.15131172]

@15131168
please try harder with your next bait thread

[Anonymous No.15131173]

>>15131168
Those actually look raw but most sausages you buy in a store are boiled and/or smoked

[Anonymous No.15131177]

>>15131172
It's not bait, you fucking tard. There's nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.15131178]

>>15131173
Yeah, they're raw because they haven't been boiled yet. That's how it works.

[Anonymous No.15131180]

>>15131172
A hotdog is literally a boiled sausage.
>>15131173
Where do you people come up with this shit?

[Anonymous No.15131181]

>>15131177
if you weren't such a bitch you wouldn't need to make a thread to justify your lack of skills and shitty behavior

[Anonymous No.15131184]

>>15131181
>boiling food means a lack of skill
You remember how I mentioned pretentious fucks in the OP? I was talking about you specifically.

[Anonymous No.15131185]

>>15131180
yes and they're made from slop and cased in plastic, these are not

[Anonymous No.15131191]

>>15131178

[Anonymous No.15131194]

>>15131184
why are you so scared of useing a frying pan?

[Anonymous No.15131196]

>>15131168
As long as you sear them afterward, there is truly nothing wrong with boiling them.

[Anonymous No.15131197]

>>15131194
Why would I do that when boiling the sausage is the best way?

[Anonymous No.15131199]

>>15131180
In America, a lot of the sausage products on the shelf are precooked.

[Anonymous No.15131200]

>>15131197
for a person scared of frying pans

[Anonymous No.15131201]

You can boil them to pre-cook them, then drain them and brown them up in the pan or on the bbq.

[Anonymous No.15131206]

>>15131178
No that is not how the vast majority of sausages work

>>15131180
Have you ever bought a sausage that was edible without any risks raw, congratulations that sausage was boiled and/or smoked in for taste but mainly to increase possible storagetimes as untreated
and uncured raw sausage would spoil in a matter of days

[Anonymous No.15131213]

>>15131200
>gatekeeping sausages of all things

[Anonymous No.15131217]

>>15131206
>Have you ever bought a sausage that was edible without any risks raw
No, never.
Unless you're talking about cured, smokes sausages of course. But I have never in my life encountered a sausage that was pre-cooked or safe to eat raw.

[Anonymous No.15131229]

>>15131217
Have you ever bought a sausage prepackaged at a supermarket boom there you have one in almost all cases (the overwhelming majority)

[Anonymous No.15131243]

>>15131229
Nope, 100% raw every time. Regular supermarket sausages are always raw unless otherwise stated, and I have never in my life read a label that claimed the sausages didn't need cooking.

[Anonymous No.15131251]

>>15131229

[Anonymous No.15131260]

>>15131213
He's insulting you for being wrong about cooking, not gatekeeping, gaslighting, or microaggressing you, you Reddit fucking faggot. If you say a turkey is best microwaved do you expect not to be told you're a moron and given shit about not using an oven?

[Anonymous No.15131261]

>>15131243
Just because something was or wasn't printed on the packaging doesn't mean that's all there is or that certain things are granted or maybe omitted due to risks if someone does something stupid I guess.

Fact of the matter is just because you don't know how sausage is made doesn't mean that I would somehow be wrong or you could be one of the very few that have only ever bought sausage that even I would recommend not even tasting as is before cooking

[Anonymous No.15131266]

>>15131200
stovetop frying pan (solely direct heat) is not a good method of cooking sausages.
they don't cook evenly, you dry them out and it makes a mess
the best way is to sear in a pan and then put the pan in an oven to cook them through
or grill them with a lid which also does roast + direct heat

or poach in a beer or stock or something with peppers and onions and then grill

honestly straight up sauteing whole sausages is about as retarded as simply boiling them. Slice them up if you want to saute.

[Anonymous No.15131269]

>>15131251
Some weird choices of phrasing and not really clear exactly what they mean by every category or having clear examples for everything but yes it does in fact pretty much prove my point thank you

[Anonymous No.15131280]

>>15131243
where do you live?
all the cheap prepackaged supermarket sausages in NZ are parcooked
they say to cook them to heat through but it's really just a covering their asses thing. They aren't raw. Really you just want to heat them through and get some colour on them.

it's basically to idiotproof bbqing because it's often children or women or drunk people doing it.

[Anonymous No.15131282]

>>15131266
If you cook sausage on a grill or in a frying pan of course you have cut slits in them (of course there are exceptions but overall)

[Anonymous No.15131284]

>>15131168
>There's literally nothing wrong with boiling sausages.
yeah before you take them to the river to have a bonfire and spear them on sticks you find and brown them over some embers once the fire breaks down and you've had some beers.

[Anonymous No.15131287]

>>15131282
>cut slits in them
no you fucking donkey they're sealed to keep the juices in this is boomer tier nonsense

[Anonymous No.15131288]

>>15131287
What, you....don't...cut...your...sausage..?

[Anonymous No.15131290]

>>15131266
This is somehow even more pretentious than frying sausages in the pan. Good job.

[Anonymous No.15131295]

>>15131282
>you have cut slits in them
If someone said this to my face I would punch them straight in the nose. No hesitation.

[Anonymous No.15131297]

>>15131269
No, it disproves your point. It's saying that there are fresh sausages - like the packaged ones you get from the supermarket, and there are certain types of sausage that are cooked, cured and smokes. Fresh sausages are always 100% raw. Never boiled, never smoked: raw. They must be cooked before consumption. It says this very clearly.

[Anonymous No.15131299]

>>15131288
no you idiot. That ruins them.

>>15131290
specifically why is it pretentious?

[Anonymous No.15131307]

>>15131282
I still don't know if boomers actually believe this or if it's just a boomer meme.

[Anonymous No.15131308]

>>15131295
But why, I seriously don't see the reasoning you do it a lot just so they don't burst uncontrollably on their own not to mention that you increase the pressure until it bursts meaning a more uncontrolled cooking or well amount of heat over a given amount of time

It's totally fine without doing it but it makes sense

[Anonymous No.15131309]

>>15131297
again, where are you from? the most ubiquitous type of sausage in NZ like every one you'd buy at a sausage sizzle outside mitre 10 or bunnings or at a school or something, is pre-cooked

that's what a 'normal' sausage to eat between bread with tomato sauce and grilled onions and mustard is.

[Anonymous No.15131311]

>>15131307
it's because they're prone to explode the casing anyway if you cook them stupidly without doing it and boomers cook them stupidly like on a very hot grill with no lid or in a pan the whole time

[Anonymous No.15131313]

>>15131266
I usually just add water and a lid to the frying pan after searing. Or I boil in a pan with so little water that they start searing around the time they're done. Can't get easier.
>>15131282
Are you making your own sausages or something with thin casings or a lot of water content?

[Anonymous No.15131324]

>>15131280
I live in Australia, neighbor.
Pic-related:
>sausages are either uncooked or ready to eat
>either/or
It's an either/or scenario anon. Regular supermarket sausages are not boiled, smoked or parcooked. They are RAW. They may be safe to eat raw if you so wish, but only because of hygiene standards and preservatives. But if you do so, you will be copping a load of bacteria. It will not necessarily make you sick, but the meat in the sausage is 100% RAW.

[Anonymous No.15131336]

>>15131307
What's wrong with assuming that people do the right thing

>>15131299
How come it ruins them?

>>15131297
It mentions what are usually used in sausage and that yes uncooked sausage do exist (bulk looks like ground meat apparently, patties like a hamburger and links seem to be german style bratwurst)

And then to what temperature meat needs to be cooked to kill bacteria

Then it says that sausages that are ready to eat i.e. everything that isn't uncooked like the few examples above and then goes on to list different methods to treat different type of sausage

It basically says that I happen to be right and you are wrong, not that I get any enjoyment of this fact it's just how it is pretty much every sausage you can find in your local supermarket in most western countries are perfectly safe to eat right away if you feel like it and you would have to really try to be able to even find raw uncooked sausage at most places

[Anonymous No.15131337]

>>15131324
you're just wrong
you ever grilled those cheap shit bulk snags they do at schools or bunnings or basically any cheap scenario?
they are fundamentally different to legit nice raw sausages because they are pre-cooked to idiot proof them

they look like in my pic.
they do still say to cook them though.

[Anonymous No.15131339]

>>15131324
like, a nice sausage might take 10-15 mins on the grill to cook through, and you have to baby it around each side somewhat and have a lid to cook it evenly and avoid burning

those cheap ones you're just heating up basically.

[Anonymous No.15131347]

>>15131324
Yes they are either uncooked OR ready to eat but please can you at least read what comes after what you highlighted and maybe even check what they mean by the category dry-, semidry-, and cooked sausage so you can understand

[Anonymous No.15131350]

>>15131336
>How come it ruins them?
the casing holds the juices inside. you lose all the juices when you cut holes in it and you get a dry sausage.

see pic related on the left for a ruptured casing which is the same thing.

https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/05/the-food-lab-the-best-way-to-grill-sausages.html
more information.

[Anonymous No.15131354]

>>15131313
Would like to at some point but I thought it was common knowledge that sausages can crack on their own if not slits are cut

[Anonymous No.15131355]

>>15131347
>Yes they are either uncooked OR ready to eat
that's actually not true. The cheap pre-cooked sausages still say on the packet to cook them. They aren't handled in a sanitary manner like salami or deli sausages etc. So they cover their ass by saying you have to cook them. But they are precooked.

they're also fucking gross out of the packet cold.

[Anonymous No.15131356]

>>15131337
I assume when you say 'my pic' you're referring to this bag of horrors >>15131309 that passes for sausages over the Tasman?

Pic related is the sort of sausages we use over here at sausage sizzles. They are very much full of raw meat and should not under any circumstances be eaten fucking raw.

[Anonymous No.15131358]

>>15131350
Heat evaporates water yes but you don't get a dry sausage if you cook it properly unless you bought a dry sausage of course

[Anonymous No.15131359]

>>15131354
Only if they're cooked too hot. And cutting the slits is preemptively ruining them so they aren't ruined save by your own hand.

>A burnt and busted-open casing, sooty flavor, juices lost to the grill gods.
>What happened: This is what happens when you throw a sausage over the highest possible heat. Just like other meats, sausages contract as they cook, and in proportion to how high a temperature they're cooked to. Cook a sausage over high heat, and the casing and outer layers will quickly get very hot, causing them to contract a great deal. Meanwhile, the raw sausage meat in the center won't have contracted at all.
>What happens next is sort of like what happens to the Incredible Hulk, but instead of the Hulk growing faster than his clothes, imagine his clothes shrinking in proportion to his body.
>The casing and outer layers crack and burst open. Liquefied fat and expelled meat juices from the center pour out onto your fire, causing it to flare up and leaving a sooty deposit all over your sausage. The result is an acrid-tasting sausage, with a dry, juiceless center.

[Anonymous No.15131361]

>>15131295
Based guardian of sausages

[Anonymous No.15131363]

>>15131350
Yeah, I bet you just love sucking every last drop you can get from a sausage, don't you?

[Anonymous No.15131364]

>>15131337
What the fuck are you talking about? Have I ever grilled cheap sausages? Only about 500 times. They are exactly the same in terms of cooked/raw status as any fresh sausage you get from the butcher or supermarket 'gourmet' herb and garlic sausages with pine nuts. The only difference is the quality of the meat and the overall composition. But no matter what fresh sausage you get, it's raw. What is wrong with you people? If a sausage was pre-cooked in any way I would notice immediately. A sausage is raw ingredients in a sack. It's raw like a steak is raw. It's raw like a chicken breast is raw.

[Anonymous No.15131365]

>>15131355
Where do you find sausage where it says on the packaging that you have to cook or not cook them, I can't think of any meat product that says this on the label seeing as it is kind of self explanatory

Also cold sausage is like the best thing ever but it's better with mustard or mayo

[Anonymous No.15131369]

>>15131168
Kraut detected

[Anonymous No.15131371]

>>15131364
No, it's not. Repeating it isn't going to make it any less false.

[Anonymous No.15131374]

>>15131358
>if you cook it properly
yes, by not cutting slits in it and not cooking it too hot so the casing ruptures.

there's the testing showing just how much juices/fat it loses if you cut/rupture the casing. It's a lot.

You need to come to terms with how badly you've been fucking up sausages for however many years, boomer.

[Anonymous No.15131376]

>>15131359
I wrote: "sausages can crack on their own"

It all depends on what type of sausage and how you are cooking it of course but I wouldn't slit a raw sausage in the first place I guess and personally I couldn't care less how they crack if they crack 'cause I'm eating them either way

[Anonymous No.15131378]

Why does something as simple as cooking sausages send /ck/ into a civil war?

[Anonymous No.15131390]

>>15131356
look anon, i'm sorry. I just assumed you'd have equally shit sausages as us. Really the default sausage in NZ is precooked. It's not what I buy to cook but I will admit to enjoying one on occasion in the right situation.

good for you though

[Anonymous No.15131391]

>>15131355
>They aren't handled in a sanitary manner like salami or deli sausages etc.
Yes, they definitely are. At least in civilized countries. But they assume you're going to cook them properly because everybody knows that they are raw.
>>15131371
I've tried to be reasonable. The onus is now on you to prove that supermarket sausages are in any way pre-cooked. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.15131393]

>>15131364
Not him but can you try to stay on topic especially now since you've been proven wrong by your own evidence in earlier replies.

It doesn't matter how many times you say you've done something or that you believe you would have noticed it but I can give you that changing the venue is a sneaky move but doesn't seem anything but dishonest like your whole argument seeing as you have simply been wrong since the beginning wether you are able to realize it or not is of lesser importance

[Anonymous No.15131397]

>>15131393
I think he actually might be right. I looked through some aussie supermarket websites and didn't see basic bitch precooked sausages. We have them. They're ubiquitous. But I don't think he does.

The other sausages you might be talking about that are speciality sausages which have been smoked or are for cold cuts are a different thing really, they're not 'normal sausages' they fall loosely under the sausage umbrella but it's not what springs to mind.

[Anonymous No.15131398]

>>15131378
Because nobody here can actually cook. Except the people who boil sausages.

[Anonymous No.15131401]

>>15131354
Have you ever...tried?
The sausages you buy at the store are pretty well calibrated not to explode during ordinary cooking.
I think this wasn't the case a long time ago which is why this boomer lore exists

[Anonymous No.15131403]

>>15131397
Specialty sausage like everything you put on a sandwich and most european sausages?

[Anonymous No.15131406]

>>15131393
And yet fresh sausages still remain uncooked.
>your own evidence in earlier replies
Pleb-tier logic and reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.15131411]

>>15131406
You never once used the word "FRESH" sausage which could in fact be an indication of actual uncooked sausage before you bumbling fool

[Anonymous No.15131416]

>>15131403
yeah. those are all meme variants of sausages. not 'normal' sausages.
also, pic related is a sandwich and is made with a normal sausage.

[Anonymous No.15131423]

>>15131416
>meme variants of sausages
Retard.

[Anonymous No.15131428]

>>15131403
We're talking about pre-made regular sausages that you typically put on a bbq. For some reason this thread is full of retards who think the supermarket butcher has already smoked them or cooked them, even though they are obviously raw.
>>15131411
I used the word 'fresh' to bring us back to the point of talking about the kind of sausage in the OP. I don't want you moving the goal-posts and start talking about salamis and things like that. The claim was that pre-packaged supermarket sausages like >>15131356 are somehow pre-cooked, which is obviously wrong.

[Anonymous No.15131430]

>>15131411
Can you please read your own so called evidence and follow through with reading about the different categories for gods sake

>>15131416
Is it kill :(

[Anonymous No.15131438]

>>15131428
>For some reason this thread is full of retards who think the supermarket butcher has already smoked them or cooked them, even though they are obviously raw.

Look cunt. I told you. In NZ they are parcooked at a factory. That is the standard garbage cheap bulk sausage. I even posted a picture of the most common one.
Congratulations that your country isn't so shit. I already said that. But you're not even thinking now.

[Anonymous No.15131439]

>this entire thread
I'm glad 4chan and 4channel can continue to offer me high-level discussion, intense debate and angry violent arguments about obscure and insignificant (and sometimes bizarre) subjects such as whether or not sausages can be eaten raw.

Never change, faggots.

[Anonymous No.15131443]

>>15131428
As a former butcher yes a lot of sausage you buy at your butcher is mainly smoked and/or boiled but often it isn't your local butcher that made it if we are talking supermarkets in that case they order from distributors or a local butcher to yiur local butcher that fixes stuff like this to sell to your local butchers

No you used to word "fresh" because it was painfully obvious that you are laughably and factually wrong as proven by your own submitted evidence which is also likely why you mentioned salami which would be to lower the extreme amount of sausage that is perfectly edible seeing as both I and your link mentioned sausage you have on sandwiches, pizza and the like.

You are the one trying to change what is being discussed in order to make it less obvious for other how crazy false your statements are on all accounts other than uncooked sausage actually existing

[Anonymous No.15131450]

>>15131443
What country do you reside in, butcher boy?

[Anonymous No.15131453]

do you two realize that this argument basically hinges on cultural differences

[Anonymous No.15131462]

>>15131450
Northern hemisphere but any earlier occupation or where I may or may not reside doesn't really change the fact you would be perfectly safe to eat the majority of the sausage in any supermarket as they are (I realize that this is a bold claim and things do differ but you seem to reside in a western country so highly doubt that it would be that much of a difference)

[Anonymous No.15131465]

>>15131438
You mean this image?
I got some bad news for you. Those snags are entirely raw.
>>15131443
How fucking retarded are you?
>>15131324
>>15131251
>sausages are either uncooked or ready to eat
What about this is confusing to you?

[Anonymous No.15131470]

>>15131453
Not really seeing as anon have provided "proof" that even shows how off he/she is

[Anonymous No.15131473]

>>15131465
>You mean this image?
I'm not the kiwi but get some reading comprehension you drooling idiot, he's referring to his bag of snags he posted earlier >>15131309

He's explained several times now that the cheapo sausages in NZ are parcooked at the factory, unlike here in straya where they're proper raw meat.

[Anonymous No.15131482]

>>15131465
Read the rest you mong and check up what the categories entails if you still don't understand as I already mentioned on your earlier post of which you referenced >>15131336 >>15131430

[Anonymous No.15131489]

>>15131473
Those are obviously pre-cooked. That's not what we're talking about at all.
>>15131482
You're drunk.

[Anonymous No.15131490]

>>15131489
And you're retarded

[Anonymous No.15131493]

>>15131470
i looked through some aussie supermarket websites and didn't see any non-meme variety parcooked sausages.

[Anonymous No.15131494]

>>15131490
Most definitely. But at least I can tell the difference between raw and cooked meat.

[Anonymous No.15131497]

>>15131494
>But at least I can tell the difference between raw and cooked meat.
You clearly can't though?

[Anonymous No.15131501]

>>15131489
>Those are obviously pre-cooked. That's not what we're talking about at all.
that's what a normal sausage is in NZ. what you'd get outside bunnings. If that isn't what we're talking about them really you're just having a tautological nonsense conversation where what we're talking about is by definition not pre-cooked sausages and you're arguing that those aren't pre-cooked.

I only assumed straya was the same in terms of budget garbage but apparently you're not and i believe you, so you're right on your patch but you have to meet me halfway here.

You're being retarded.

[Anonymous No.15131509]

>>15131489
If only I was seeing as I have to argue about something that is common knowledge with someone that keeps posting things without reading them before and actually proving me right when doing so

>>15131493
Non cherrypicked pic or it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.15131511]

>>15131497
When I buy a frying sausage from the supermarket, I can tell that it's never been cooked. I know raw meat when I see it. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.15131514]

>>15131494
You obviously can't, if you could tell if a meat is raw we wouldn't have this mindnumbingly dumb discussion in the first place

[Anonymous No.15131516]

>>15131509
>Non cherrypicked pic or it didn't happen
fuck off cunt. showing you a picture that -doesn't- include something, to prove my point, is just by its very nature going to seem like cherry picked bullshit.

either go look or just believe me.

[Anonymous No.15131520]

I like cooking mine with this pan from ikea with lil ridges

[Anonymous No.15131524]

>>15131509
I actually proved you wrong, though. You just have bias issues and low IQ. /ck/ is not the smartest board, I'm sorry to say. I wish it was because cooking is based.

[Anonymous No.15131526]

>>15131509
find a precooked non-meme sausage at an australian shop and then you've proved him wrong.

[Anonymous No.15131546]

>>15131524
No you never did, you have been wrong from the start but won't stop claiming otherwise for some reason

>>15131526
How about using 2 examples from your own freakin' evidence what about Bologna and Frankfurter as in your own picture stated as two examples >>15131324

[Anonymous No.15131557]

>>15131516
Believe you when you have been nothing but dishonest since the start and argue in bad faith, come on now no I don't think so especially not when I know that you are simply wrong if not by my own accord then by the very evidence you yourself posted that does nothing but proves you wrong

[Anonymous No.15131567]

>>15131516
>>15131557
Why do you two get so worked up about sausages?

[Anonymous No.15131573]

>>15131546
>bologna and frankfurter
>non-meme sausage at an australian shop

[Anonymous No.15131577]

>>15131168
Bait or you're just making excuses for being a lazy cunt. Boiling sausages is what poor people do. Are you poor?

[Anonymous No.15131580]

>>15131546
Sausages come uncooked and raw, anon. It's time that you admitted this truth.

[Anonymous No.15131581]

>>15131520
its called a grilling pan friendo. Or just a grill pan

[Anonymous No.15131595]

>>15131573
That was only two examples FROM YOUR FREAKING POST under the category cooked sausages which can also be smoked, didn't even go over dry and semi-dry sausages and if they are prevalent enough to warrant naming in examples then yes they aren't in any way memesausages in Australia

You're so retarded it's actually quite fascinating to see how factresistent you happen to be even if it feels like I'm loosing the equivalent of the number of brain cells I would loose by dunking my head in violently with passion the table 10 times after reading a post by you

[Anonymous No.15131596]

>>15131557
No, the other option to believing me, is looking for yourself. There is no third option, as i explained. It's not possible.

I think you're confused about what i've been saying too because i didnt post or discuss the 'evidence' you're talking about.

>>15131546
>bologna and frankfurter
those are meme sausages not regular sausages.
at this point it's a cultural difference. I agree with straya anon on that point because i'm from nz. Where are you from?

[Anonymous No.15131605]

>>15131580
December 20fucking12 and mentioning many at christmas enjoys cooking raw sausage how is that in any way relevant not to mention you had to go back all the way to 2012 to find something to hopefully support your point, noone has ever said that uncooked sausage doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.15131619]

>>15131596
Of course you don't want to dscuss or even read it I guess because it shows how flat out wrong you are and no Bologna and Frankfurter is not by any means a memesausage, where I am from has no bearing whatsoever on the food industry and standard practices you can take your bs about cultural differences and stick it down under

[Anonymous No.15131630]

>>15131605
The year it was published doesn't invalidate it.

>noone has ever said that uncooked sausage doesn't exist
You have.

[Anonymous No.15131634]

>>15131168
boiling is ok...just make sure the liquid is beer

[Anonymous No.15131635]

>>15131619
in nz and australia a 'sausage' is something you might typically grill and put in a piece of bread with tomato sauce and mustard and grilled onions.
that's what a normal sausage is
these run the full gambit from garbage to really quite nice butchery things.
everything else is a meme sausage.
Arguably a frankfurter would fit that definition, but I would still say it doesn't. It's a meme version.

If you asked someone in nz or australia,
>would you like a sausage
there would be very clear expectations. Everything else requires further explanation.

Now, the discussion becomes are we talking about common language (and if so, whose), or technical language. If you want to argue for another hour about how bologna is technically a sausage then be my guest.

I don't understand why you're being so obtuse and evasive about where you're from though.

[Anonymous No.15131636]

>>15131356
>21 pack
fucken euros and their metric system

[Anonymous No.15131641]

>>15131630
It says something that you had to dig that far to find something you think helps your argument which it doesn't in fact it really doesn't say anything unlike your other pics which proved me right if you bothered to read more then just what you highlighted

I have never once said anything that stupid

[Anonymous No.15131644]

>non-scandis will never know this joy

[Anonymous No.15131645]

>>15131619
you've also already admitted the validity of the idea of the distinction between sausages and meme sausages, by denying something is indeed a meme sausage, instead of denying that meme sausages are a thing, and therefor i think you've agreed we're not having a technical argument which might be conclusively ended by a wikipedia page. That is unless you can find me the wikipedia page for meme sausages.

[Anonymous No.15131647]

>>15131641
>had to dig that far
I'm not the guy who linked it but that page is literally on the first page of google results when you search for 'raw sausage', it's an official government page.

[Anonymous No.15131702]

>boil sausage
>mix leftover water with dry dogfood
>your dog loves you AND you get to enjoy a boiled sausage without regrets

[Anonymous No.15131721]

>>15131645
Can you keep yourself on topic for once in your life despite being in the wrong, how about HACCP documents oroviding rough outlines for when something is ready to eat as for example most sausages are

>>15131635
The argument is not about whatever you think is common in the english language or your culturestuff or what you personally think is what you call a memesausage or not it's about OP being retarded and thinking ALL sausages are raw when you buy them until you decide to boil them for some reason

Also answering that question really doesn't add nor subtracts anything from the discussion seeing as it doesn't matter at all especially not in regards to something like this you just want to move the discussion to being about culture for some asinine reason and no I don't want to hear it as it has nothing to do with this discussion

>>15131647
So the first result is from 2012, wow doesn't at all sound like an exotic or in this case memey sausage......

[Anonymous No.15131731]

>>15131721
what you think your point is, no one disagrees or disagreed with you.
you are simply confused.

[Anonymous No.15131751]

>>15131168

[Anonymous No.15131772]

>>15131731
Just admit you were simply and flat out wrong from the start is it really that hard, I am only confused as to why you weren't aborted in the first place which would have saved me this minor annoyance

[Anonymous No.15131781]

>>15131168
Certain styles are meant to only be boiled, not fired. At least that's what the polack deli downtown recommends for some of their sausages.

[Anonymous No.15131783]

>>15131243
>Nope, 100% raw every time. Regular supermarket sausages
the post i replied to, initially

>>15131280
>where do you live?
>all the cheap prepackaged supermarket sausages in NZ are parcooked
>they say to cook them to heat through but it's really just a covering their asses thing. They aren't raw. Really you just want to heat them through and get some colour on them.
>it's basically to idiotproof bbqing because it's often children or women or drunk people doing it.
my original post

>>15131324
>I live in Australia, neighbor.

so:
Regular supermarket sausages [in Australia] are 100% raw
is what he said

>>15131772
now, you're saying I was flat out wrong from the start? Want to take that back? Was he wrong either? No. You're just confused.

[Anonymous No.15131786]

If I dont mind waiting i poach them and then put them on a griddle pan on a low heat to get a nice crispy skin.

[Anonymous No.15131794]

>>15131243
>I have never in my life read a label that claimed the sausages didn't need cooking.
Really? I guess you never read labels then.
see pic
so now you have and this is not a one of.

[Anonymous No.15131797]

>>15131217
>Unless you're talking about cured, smokes sausages of course.

>>15131794
come on lad.

[Anonymous No.15131799]

Can ya'll stop your retarded semantics argument where both of you don't realize you have different opinions of what "raw sausage" means?

[Anonymous No.15131807]

>>15131636
Australians and their metric system. Normal people and their normal system that doesn't do pounds, yards and square inches and other nonsensical bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15131813]

>>15131794
That's a smoked sausage, dumb-ass. Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.15131817]

>>15131168
>boil
no but poach yes, lightly poach then finish in a searing hot with plenty of oil

delicious

[Anonymous No.15131822]

>>15131783
Just assumed you were that other person or at the very least talked with the other guy on irc, discord or whatever seeing as you all of a sudden tried to sway me with starting to say that he or she could be on to something despite the actual image being posted and the information therein said the exact opposite of what he or she wanted to prove but no I likely can't say that you were flat out wrong with the post you quoted

[Anonymous No.15131835]

>>15131799
No we don't and that person knows it which is what annoys me seeing as it knows it is wrong which is why it keeps trying to change what the argument is about and refuses to read the evidence he or she submitted

[Anonymous No.15131843]

>>15131813
smoked, cooked, smoked and cooked sausages can be eaten without a care in the world which includes the majority of all sausages being sold

[Anonymous No.15131846]

>>15131835
he defined the argument initially as:
>Regular supermarket sausages [in Australia]

>>15131822
and you sound like a paranoid schizo. You think there's some sausage related discord Australasian conspiracy directed at you? You're not even really talking to me, but rather at a strawman.

[Anonymous No.15131851]

>>15131843
>which includes the majority of all sausages being sold
where
are
you
from ?
you fucking dumbcunt

[Anonymous No.15131856]

>>15131851
i'm a citizen of the earth

[Anonymous No.15131867]

I remember when I was younger I visited my mother's workplace where she taught retards. They were of high school or college age and were impressed by my elementary grade school level math skills. It really astounds me that even they were able to demonstrate reading comprehension skills that were superior to the retards still arguing in this thread.

[Anonymous No.15131879]

>>15131168
Boil them in beer and then sear them on the grill

[Anonymous No.15131914]

>>15131879
This but replace beer with urine.

[Anonymous No.15131919]

>>15131914
This but replace urine with cum.

[Anonymous No.15131937]

>@
Comment discarded

[Anonymous No.15132163]

Formerly smoked

[Anonymous No.15132175]

>>15131260
you're the kind of person who wouldn't even boil water if some eleb didn't go bing bing wahoo about boiling water. fucking posers

[Anonymous No.15132491]

>>15131168
>boiling Ja! wurst
you should be hanged publicly

[Anonymous No.15132574]

>>15131439
get the fuck off my board before i impale you on a smoked kielbasa

[Anonymous No.15132577]

>>15131168
Huge dick & Chadpilled

Bitches don't know about my hemaworst

[Anonymous No.15132596]

>>15131168
I'm from DEUTSCHLAND, so I'm practically about 23% sausage. No one, NO ONE, here boils sausages before grilling or pan frying, you imbecile. Just put them in a pan on low heat and cook them evenly while flipping once in a while. I sometimes seriously can't believe humanity has lasted this long...

[Anonymous No.15132599]

>>15131168
I mean you should boil your sausages at least 10 minutes before frying.

[Anonymous No.15132605]

>>15132599
Is this a euphemism for sex?

[Anonymous No.15132606]

>>15131288
No, the jews did.

[Anonymous No.15132614]

>>15132605
No it's a euphemism for greater flavor and skin texture.
That's an euphemism for oral sex.

[Anonymous No.15132618]

>>15131266
This

[Anonymous No.15132625]

>>15131194
I use both.

[Anonymous No.15132766]

>>15131243
sheeeeiiit

[Anonymous No.15132777]

>>1513117
>@
Lol

[Anonymous No.15132799]

>>15131168
You should boil hotdogs. What kind of freak boils sausages?

[Anonymous No.15132843]

>>15132606

[Anonymous No.15132858]

>>15131173
where in the red zone do you live?

[Anonymous No.15132901]

>>15131846
Which is as false as any and wouldn't even begin to make anything valid which invalidates your point

And now we are down to attacking my person without any kind of argument to go with it whatsoever how impressive, the thing is that I never said anything close to that effect I merely shined a light on how unreasonable it is for someone to go from what is factually true to all of a sudden claim to be overproven by a person that have been plain false from the start and proven false by the very same evidence that person itself presented and that somehow would be the smoking gun for you to try and sway me to actually give that liar any credit whatsoever, NO ONE does that EVER

>>15131851
I'm from where I'm from how daft are you ah and with the culture of bite me

[Anonymous No.15132905]

>>15131168
Not boiling, simmering. Myself I keep a jar of stock or broth that I repeatedly use for sausages to get it more flavorful with each use and use it and top it off as I go. Its the best way to cook them.
Just sear it off at the end.

[Anonymous No.15132918]

>>15132901
...like you would a cold sausage that is

[Anonymous No.15132928]

sausages are the best food - change my mind

[Anonymous No.15132943]

>>15132858
Are you for some reason asking how many passports I have in my posession and why would that matter in the case that it is perfectly safe to eat the vast majority of cold sausage

[Anonymous No.15134077]

>>15131173
what shithole do you live in where you can't buy fresh sausages? in canada, every grocery store has sausages and ~95% of them are fresh. my ghetto grocery store around the corner even grinds their own.

[Anonymous No.15134084]

>>15131168
i always do this but it's polite to refer to it as braising. i always do them most of the way in the water and then finish them in the pan.

[Anonymous No.15134096]

>>15131168
Why are you boiling bratwurst?
I don't understand why you would give yourself an inferior experience by making it in a shitty way.

[Anonymous No.15134135]

>>15134096
You've never even tried it boiled, have you? Love you uninformed loudmouths.

[Anonymous No.15134538]

Some of the best sausage I ever cooked I started by browning in a pan and then transferred to a casserole dish, covered them with saurkraut, and then baked in the oven for about 45 minutes.

The sausages and the saurkraut both come out delicious.

I hate leftovers, but I'll make extra of these so I can eat them for two or three days.

[Anonymous No.15134611]

>>15132901
if you don't want to be called a paranoid schizo then don't act like a paranoid schizo and claim everyone who disagrees with you is conspiring on discord

[Anonymous No.15134616]

>>15131178
what shithole part of the world were you "educated" in?

[Anonymous No.15134618]

>>15131217
>Unless you're talking about cured, smokes sausages of course
>>15132766

[Anonymous No.15134819]

>>15134538
How crazy big is your casserole dish to be able to fit enough Bratwurst and Sauerkraut to last for 3 days also cooking sauerkraut in a casserole?

>>15134611
Not necessarily, could as well be on IRC or whatever other medium for communication maybe even IRL or you two actually being the same person seeing as any of those are far more likely than someone switching viewpoint to something that is plain false especially when the person spreading falsehoods provided evidence saying that the person was plainly wrong, a simple case of Occhams razor if you will.

[Anonymous No.15135104]

>>15134819
Occams razor for several different people disagreeing with you, (who themselves begin by arguing with one another) is that you're wrong, not that they're conspiring against you.

[Anonymous No.15135115]

>>15131644
That's a classic Dutch sausage.

[Anonymous No.15135116]

>>15135104
Occams razor is bullshit. Surprised to see anybody even cite that anymore.

[Anonymous No.15135129]

>>15135116
I didn't bring it up.

[Anonymous No.15135131]

>>15131168
I mean sure there's nothing like 'morally' wrong with doing it. The taste is so much worse though that I don't know why you'd do it unless you either had to for some reason or are being super lazy about it.

[Anonymous No.15135144]

>>15135104
I never said that they were I merely posed that it would be more likely that two people could possibly be in cahoots than one all of a sudden changing his point of view to something that is proven false by the very same person he is claming to have been overproven by despite the "evidence" used pointing to nothing else than saying flat out that the person is wrong and not only that but tries go off to sway me who actually knows a wee bit of what I'm talking about, things like that doesn't just naturally happen especially not in a discussion this blatantly obvious that the person is wrong from the start plus actually providing information to hurt his own case

So yes that is far more likely than someone being overproven to something that is blatantly false and then try to recruit me to his newfound retardedness

[Anonymous No.15135147]

>>15131168
As long as you boil them in beer.

[Anonymous No.15135155]

>>15131168
What's wrong with that? I boil it then I fry it

[Anonymous No.15135196]

>>15131822
>Just assumed you were that other person or at the very least talked with the other guy on irc, discord or whatever

>>15135144
>I never said that they were
Yes you fucking did you liar.

I don't know how many times I have to say it either, but I have already addressed this 'evidence' you're obsessed with. I didn't post it. I haven't looked at it. And i'm not interested in it. It simply falls outside the bounds of what we're discussing.

If you think you're arguing about what is technically a sausage then from the very start, I and every other poster, have said that there are smoked/cured sausages. I even said in NZ there are parcooked sausages. But not everyone has those.

[Anonymous No.15135230]

>>15135196
Once again I never said that you in fact were I only said that I assumed that that could in fact be the case seeing as it would simply seem more likely than the alternative.

How does it fall out of the bounds of the discussion when the discussion is about OP claiming that all sausage has to be cooked before eating which is simply untrue no matter if OP was aware of the fact or not.

>>15131178
>>15131217
>>15131243

[Anonymous No.15135289]

>>15135230
>Just assumed you were that other person or at the very least talked with the other guy on irc, discord or whatever

If you say: 'X is Y or at the very least Z'
then X is definitely Y or Z

first post of his you link
>they're raw because they haven't been boiled yet
is refering to the sausages in the OP pic which are raw and haven't been boiled yet

Second one explicitly says that smoked and cured sausages exist and he's not talking about those. Which seems to address your entire arguement and yet you ignore it.

Third is directly after stating he's not talking about smoked/cured sausages and merely 'regular supermarket sausages in Australia' which I have explained the meaning of over and over again to you, and which you appear to utterly reject the very idea of despite bringing it up just now.

[Anonymous No.15135292]

>>15135289
Ok chud

[Anonymous No.15135369]

>>15135292
Man you got wrecked

[Anonymous No.15135381]

>>15135289
As previously stated it is way more likely that two people are posting together so to speak especially seeing how discussions on internet forums often work not to mention groups of people working together for whatever reason often based on outlined guidelines and I can't believe you didn't know about things like that or never noticed it, not saying that it is like that only that it happens to be a lot more likely than someone changing opinion all of a sudden from being somewhat right to being so wrong it should hurt based on something that instead should have swayed the person in the other direction and not only that but trying to make me change my stance like I would like to join in with the newfound retardedness, it just is a lot more likely and also quite prevalent which you should be aware of so again a case of occhams razor.

>..100% raw every time. Regular supermarket sausages are always raw unless otherwise stated..