/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15108172]

Why can't they decide if eggs are good for you or not?

[Anonymous No.15108182]

>>15108172
because theyre journalists, not scientists and dietarians

[Anonymous No.15108186]

Nutritionists are still unsure about the benefit of dietary cholesterol. Literally the only relevant factor.

[Anonymous No.15108195]

>>15108172
The daily mail is enemy lugenpresse. Foreign controlled subversive enemy propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15108198]

without any other data I can tell you the one on the right is bullshit
you don't just get diabetes randomly, that's not how it works. Either you have it genetically or you have it from being obese. If you're a healthy weight and not a carrier for the disease you're never going to just /get/ diabetes because you ate the wrong thing

[Anonymous No.15108202]

>>15108198
Alcoholics often get diabetes without ever becoming overweight

[Albumen No.15108218]

>>15108195
Daily Mail is the product of the Western world. Although their work is garbage, it is not the work of the enemy.

[Anonymous No.15108225]

>>15108202
alcohol abuse damages your organs directly. It's different from eating one egg a day

[Anonymous No.15108229]

>>15108218
Thanks Moshe.

[Anonymous No.15108842]

>>15108172
both google scholar and scihub are free and more convenient to use than shitty popsci journalism.
if that shitty article cites a paper, look it up on scihub and check what it actually says. the abstract of the paper will be shorter, and less dumbed down than that garbage article, and there are no ads.
oh and if the article doesn't cite a paper, ignore it. If it cites a book, ignore it even harder. People write books when they don't manage to get their findings through a proper peer review.

[Anonymous No.15108884]

>80% of yolk goes onto the wooden serving board

FUCK

[Anonymous No.15109448]

>>15108202
Alcohol contains a lot of sugar. Constant overload of that will give you diabeetus.

[Anonymous No.15109460]

>>15108182
Journalists decide things all the time, like if orange man is bad or not.

[Anonymous No.15109472]

>>15108842
Wise man from the mountain: share more of your wisdom!

[Anonymous No.15109489]

>>15108172
>Look at headlines
>One year apart
>'increase risk of diabetes'
>'LOWERS your risk of type-2 diabetes'
I bet it lowers type-2 but raises type-1

[Anonymous No.15109494]

>>15108172

[Anonymous No.15109550]

>>15108172
>2019 and 2020
kek, I remember the "eggs are good for you / eggs are bad for you" articles in the 90s. Nothing has changed.

[Anonymous No.15109552]

>>15108182
>>15109460

[Anonymous No.15109564]

>>15108202
this
>t. ex-alcoholic mother weighs 105 lbs and has betus
it's not worth it al/ck/s

[Anonymous No.15109575]

>>15108172
The way all these work is Scientists do studies using linear regression which is a statistical technique used to determine the variation in the dependent variable attributable to variation in the independent variables. Most researchers are not particularly good at designing meaningful equations and different researchers are also working from different data sets. One way to combat this issue is what is called meta analysis where multiple other studies(sometimes thousands) are used to try to find a more clear answer. This also doesn't usually solve any problems because those studies the meta analysts use are typically all wrong in similar ways. The fact is that actually finding some sort of answer to whether or not dietary cholesterol is bad for you is very difficult and we don't know for certain. This also brings me to another point. Doctors who don't learn anything about nutrition and mostly don't even understand basic statistics are not in any position to inform you about this stuff either. These "journalists" just read some random study that gets published and make headlines like this: "Study from oxford shows that eating "1 egg a day!" (aka x amount of dietary cholesterol) can do X!". Also we are all so different that there will never be a real answer to this for everyone. I personally eat multiple eggs a day and do not have high cholesterol.

[Anonymous No.15109697]

>>15108172
This thread again? Go shove 2 eggs up your ass a day.

[Anonymous No.15109713]

>>15108172
Because the egg industry doesn't want the truth about their products to be exposed. It's actually illegal to call eggs healthy or nutritious on egg cartons as well as on commercials so they use deceptive language and prey on consumer confusion, partly with the in moderation excuse; confusion sells, not the truth.

[Anonymous No.15110727]

>>15108202
>often
Not often at all but it definitely happens to a certain strain of people.
As with all chronic congenital diseases, family history is paramount.
t. not at all recovered alcoholic

[Anonymous No.15110964]

>>15109575
Peepeepoopoo

[Anonymous No.15110988]

>>15108172
If you take the photos literally, they are not wrong. Hard boiled oxidizes cholesterol which is bad to eat, while soft boiled leaves the cholesterol safe to eat.

[Anonymous No.15111046]

Dude I've been eating 3 eggs a day my whole life
I got no problem

[Anonymous No.15111051]

>>15109494
That was debunked.

[Anonymous No.15112015]

>>15108172
Notice the dates? Trump lost, now the globalists are going to take away all the foods you like and force you to eat bugs.

[Anonymous No.15112051]

>>15109489
Anon, type-1 is mostly caused by genetics and appears in childhood or adolescence in the vast majority of cases

[Anonymous No.15112919]

Eggs, in particular, has a study that shows some crazy numbers that I'm pulling out my ass for sure, but something like out of 1000 participants who ate alot of eggs, 17% of them had an increase in triglycerides and LDL cholesterol

The takeaway was that we don't know why eggs cause increased cholesterol in some people butt not others, and that apparently there are a select few that react differently to eggs

I think I read it on suppversity I can't recall

[Anonymous No.15112959]

Who the fuck cares, you can get hit by a truck sitting at home or have an aneurism at any second. Eat the eggs if you enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.15114522]

>>15108172
Because modern health officials , nutritionists and "scientists", ARE A FUCKING JOKE.

And i mean Nu-scientist "Dinosaurs were just giant bird chickens" Tier.

[Anonymous No.15114538]

>>15108172
first off, Daily Mail is trash
second off, this issue was part of a Lewis Black bit from decades ago http://www.cc.com/video-clips/w04ul2/comedy-central-presents-sunblock

[Anonymous No.15114679]

Because the daily mail is a shitrag.

Enjoy this list of everything they say either causes or cures cancer. https://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/

[Anonymous No.15114743]

>>15109489
>>15112051
This. Type 1 refers to destruction of the islet cells (well, nowadays they usually are more specific and say "beta cells", the ones that produce insulin) in the pancreas.

Doesn't absolutely have to be genetic. The cause(s) of the autoimmune problems that usually destroy them is(are) poorly understood if at all. Also, the damage can happen due to completely different issues such as chemical damage or infection. I had a professor in college who became an instant diabetic after an adverse reaction to some medication he was prescribed.

[Anonymous No.15114755]

>>15114743
Just to clarify, I should have added "and Type 2 refers to when someone's tissues become insensitive to insulin as a result of longterm overeating of carbohydrates." Like me. I was stupid and thought that a Snickers bar and a bottle of Coke was a great breakfast. Then there was all that nonsense about how pasta was a healthy diet because millions of Italians eat it daily and have low cholesterol. And of course bread, bread, bread.

So now I do keto and the diabetes brought on by all of that crap is under control and even mostly reversed. I just can't eat shitloads of carbs any more or else I'll end up on insulin with my feet rotting off, my kidneys failing, and my eyes going blind. So yay for eggs, meat, and butter.

[Anonymous No.15114766]

>>15108172
Yeah, you see this shit all the time. I realised this years ago when the BBC published two separate "health" articles just weeks apart saying fapping was good and bad.

Just ignore them and eat/do what you want. Life is too short to worry about nonsense and we all got to die of something anyway.

[Anonymous No.15114799]

>>15110988
Should I scramble them or only sunnyside ?

[Anonymous No.15114818]

>>15114755
You probably got diabetes from being fat and are looking for a scapegoat.
Italians and French would be diabetic at massive rates if bread and pasta made you diabetic.

[Anonymous No.15114901]

>>15108172
The reason they keep getting mixed results is because of poor controls and not differentiating between the kinds of egg preparation.

Poached eggs are good for you. Boiled eggs are bad for you. Scrambled eggs are good for you if you salt them before scrambling, otherwise neutral. Fried eggs are generally good if they are sunny side up, unless the yolk breaks in which case they are extremely unhealthy.

Source: a /fit/ post that sounded very credible, 2014, Anonymous et al.

[Anonymous No.15114935]

stop reading the news
stop paying attention to anything that comes out of that circlejerk

[Anonymous No.15115280]

>>15114901
/fit, yeah sounds about right.
My squat 1 RM skyrocketed after got my own squatplug.
Clearly always good information.

[Anonymous No.15115304]

>>15114901
kek

[Anonymous No.15115386]

>>15114901
Cooking method influence makes sense, but I'd say in that case boiled eggs should be the healthiest option since they it protects yolk cholestorol from oxidation the best.

[Anonymous No.15115399]

Because epidemiology is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15115420]

People live longer than any scientist can spend studying them; are not completely isolated for experimentation; and are not identically interchangeable.
Any claims that foods people have eaten for thousands of years are worse than what is done to your drinking water are flat out false propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15115424]

>red meat is bad
>actually red meat is good
>actually all meat is bad, eat bugs instead
>you need to cut back on how much you eat, think of all those 7 billion hungry africans!
>eat the protein slug, bigot

[Anonymous No.15115560]

>>15115386
>>15114799

The more you cook (heat) something, the more oxidized it gets.

Soft boiled > hard boiled
Sunny > scrambled

[Anonymous No.15115637]

>>15115560
No crust on the white either I suppose ?

[Anonymous No.15115641]

>>15108172
because journalists are bad at interpreting scientific data and care more about clickbait headlines with minimal data behind it

[Anonymous No.15115666]

>>15115637
Just worry about heating the yolk because that is where all the cholesterol is, runny yolk is best yolk. Egg whites are cholesterol free, safe to eat cooked in any way.

[Anonymous No.15115761]

>>15109494
>t. my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

[Anonymous No.15115797]

>>15115761
Food science is a spook and you're the idiot for believing it.

[Anonymous No.15115902]

>>15108195
dailymail would kills it own nan for another £10 fucking parasites

[Anonymous No.15115926]

>>15108172
>Listening to the press

lol nigga just do your own research, 4 - 6 eggs are fine, more are not ideal, not because cholesterol but because of PUFAs

[Anonymous No.15115934]

>>15115761
What's hilarious is I bet you don't have the first clue how to actually interpret study data/analytics. Don't worry, most "scientists" don't either.