Why is Japanese cuisine so healthy?

[Anonymous No.15049702]

Do you think the Japanese diet contributes to the remarkable longevity/health that Japanese people have? If so, what aspects of their diet and cuisine makes it so healthy?

[Anonymous No.15049706]

>>15049702
Natto

[Anonymous No.15049710]

>>15049702
Mayo on pizza

[Anonymous No.15049712]

>>15049706
I saw this on Vice Drunk Eats on youtube......what the fuck is this exactly and how often is it consumed in Japan? Is it healthy?

[Anonymous No.15049716]

>>15049702
>Japanese food
>healthy
>they have longer lifes with an average of only ~3-5 years
Not this fucking thread again.

> If so, what aspects of their diet and cuisine makes it so healthy?
Having a well balanced diet in Japan is actually pretty hard, most people in Japan are out as shape as fuck chugg vitamins/suppliments to get through the day.

>inb4 yeah but they thin tho
Okay eat less and walk more daily, you'll shed pounds easily but you won't.

[Anonymous No.15049717]

>>15049702
Fish, rice and vegetables being the bulk of their diet.

[Anonymous No.15049720]

omega-3 from fish

[Anonymous No.15049722]

>>15049702
All the parasites they get from eating raw fish prevent autoimmune disorders
>>15049712
Fermented soy

[Anonymous No.15049728]

>>15049702
>the Japanese diet
It varies wildly, what people eat up in Hokkaido isn't the same as what people are eating down in Okinawa.

I'd say also it's not so much the diet as it is the lifestyle. Like how Tokyo and major cities are focused on pedestrians first and not cars, and how train & subways are the norm as well as cycling there's like 100 million places to lock your bike at. In most western countries it's all about driving your car. Major cities ripped out all of their train and trolly tracks in the 1900s after automobile companies bribed them off.

Portion size as well, like how a Large soda or whatever is the equivalent of a small in America.

[Anonymous No.15049736]

>>15049716
>inb4 yeah but they thin tho
>Okay eat less and walk more daily, you'll shed pounds easily but you won't.
What did he mean by this.

[Anonymous No.15049746]

>>15049702
>Do you think the Japanese diet contributes to the remarkable longevity/health that Japanese people have? If so, what aspects of their diet and cuisine makes it so healthy?
Statistics on Japanese longevity are improved for the fact that only people who did have good genes lasted through the starvation years during WW2.
It's a population that was already culled to the most hardy individuals.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/food-matters/how-the-japanese-diet-became-the-japanese-diet/

[Anonymous No.15049750]

>>15049702
>what aspects
They culturally hate fat people. Their food is mostly carbs and low in nutrients, but they're generally healthy because they culturally shun the unhealthy ones.

[Anonymous No.15049755]

>>15049736
This thread comes up all the fucking time and people always go 'well they are healthy see how thin they are compared to <other country>'.
Then it devolves into 'what's their secret how do they do it' which the answer is be more active by walking more at minimum and eating less to be thinner.

[Anonymous No.15049785]

>>15049702
No, their genetics do.

[Anonymous No.15049789]

Their longevity has a bit to do with their diet but also has to do with their portions and cultural views on being overweight. So here are the reasons Japs live so long

1) Their diet incorporates lots of fresh vegetables and fresh fish, and they RARELY have added sugars. Eating sweet food is not common in Japan. As we all know, fructose is terrible for a number of reason. When there is too much fructose, the liver produces uric acid and fat in the form of triglycerides, which increase the risk of fatty liver, heart disease and gout.
So they avoid sugary foods and keep their portions quite small on top of eating fresh raw foods, which is a perfect recipe for a great diet.

2) They have a cultural that strongly denigrates fat people. Japan has a "fat tax" where companies and local governments must now measure the waistlines of Japanese people between the ages of 40 and 74 as part of their annual checkups for workers, and if a certain proportion of their employees are a bit overweight, that company gets fined. So its is normal for Japanese people to minmize their portions and stay active on walks and such to avoid being fat. This also helps the mental health of Japanese people as they stay active in their communities and you see lots of Japs into their deep senior years still staying active, walking around doing things all day.


The diet and lifestyle of Japanese people basically is conducive to people staying active and slim - which is a causal link to higher life expectancy. This happens in Italy and Spain as well (don't fall for the siesta meme, older people in Spain stay very active).

[Anonymous No.15049793]

>>15049702
>If so, what aspects of their diet and cuisine makes it so healthy?
Fat Taxation is a real thing, you can be at risk of losing your job if you are fat as the doctor can report your health status to your employer. In most countries people would cry
Welfare barely pays for anything that isn't the bare essentials for living compared to the US where you can get a huge frozen pizza, soda's, ice cream, and even use EBT/SNAP at fast food places because 'it be 2 expensive to use my dun microwave'
Cars are stupidly expensive to own/operate, your going to be walking most places. When I lived in Asakusa for a while it was a ~1km walk to the train station, then ~1km walk to the place I needed to be.
Wages are lower (average salary in tokyo being that of about 35k before taxes/pension/healthcare), food costs higher that isn't just fish/rice. A large pizza from dominos can easily be ~50 USD in tokyo. People eat less because of it to some extent
Physical education is drilled in fairly early on Tommy can't just sit on the bench and not be failed for not running the 1 mile simply because he feels nervous.
Socially people will point, stare, and make you feel uncomfortable. Try that in North America or Europe and you'll get some lawyer with a support group of liberals going HATE CRIME REEE ABLEIST!

Most of it just comes down to daily exercise in the form of light cardio, owning a car or taking a bus outside select spots in laughable so it's walk or pay for a bike. Simply staying active goes a long way in every respect.

>>15049789
>and they RARELY have added sugars.
BAHASHSAHUaduiahsd holy shit thanks for the laugh

[Anonymous No.15049796]

>>15049785
>Jews got genocided and now they're the smartest humans
>Nips got starved and now they're the healthiest humans
>Chinks got genocided and now they're superbugs
There's a pattern here...

[Anonymous No.15049798]

>>15049789
Vegetables are bad for you dumbass. So is fish.

[Anonymous No.15049817]

>>15049793
>food costs higher that isn't just fish/rice. A large pizza from dominos can easily be ~50 USD in tokyo.
No lol. The pizza thing is literally a cultural difference. In Japan, pizza isn't considered "junk food" but "luxury food" you order for special occasions. It's due to a marketing thing from way back.
As for the food prices, it's also a bit different from the west because their restaurants are often way way way cheaper than cooking your own food for the same amount of calories, and that's not because of sugar either. As for why that is, it's likely because nips just eat less so food markets have to up the prices. Just try not being a fat fuck in Japan and you'll find that high quality and volume restaurant food is really affordable.

[Anonymous No.15049819]

>>15049746
Are you implying its the epigenetic phenomena where a starved person's grandkids will receive genes that are the beneficiaries of sustained intermittent fasting? I remember this was observed in Scandinavian families where grandparents grew up starving and their grandkids ended up getting nice healthy genes because apparently starving yourself is great for your body and genes.

>https://andytherd.com/2020/06/22/can-intermittent-fasting-alter-your-genetics/

>Intermittent fasting has been found to have "anti-aging effects"

[Anonymous No.15049829]

>>15049746
This article literally explains nothing besides for it mentioning that a lot of Japanese troops died from starvation during WW2 but it doesn't draw any nexus between the mass starvation and the genes of the Japanese. Not only that, the article kind of already takes it for granted that the Japanese diet is inherently healthy and doesn't offer an explanation for that, based on the following quote
> At last, Japan had started eating the way we expect them to: choosily, pleasurably, and healthily.

[Anonymous No.15049839]

>>15049817
lol no. Dominos still does the lunch specials 1000 yen pizza's for lunch, pizza is just one example I could use a slew of other things that also go more expensive. I could talk about freshness or mos, or go on about hamburger steak being near 1500 yen and served with 'fancy corn!"
>As for the food prices, it's also a bit different from the west because their restaurants are often way way way cheaper than cooking your own food for the same amount of calories,
No just stop, it's generally supply and demand but overall there is far more into it than just that. Not to mention the recent tax hike for eating in that kicked over last year for dine in and not take out
>Just try not being a fat fuck in Japan and you'll find that high quality and volume restaurant food is really affordable.
No shit, but some dishes are just dumbly expensive for what they are.

When it comes to getting properly balanced dieting Japan is pretty shitty in cost, don't even get me started on trying to maintain it with a workout routine.

[Anonymous No.15049853]

>>15049702
>Manlets
>Micro penis
>feminine
Sure keep eating your (((soy))) just like your favorite anime characters

[Anonymous No.15049876]

>>15049793
>or anything that isn't the bare essentials for living compared to the US where you can get a huge frozen pizza, soda's, ice cream
Are these type of foods cheap in Japan? I wonder why these junk foods are so cheap in America

[Anonymous No.15049882]

>>15049785
elaborate

[Anonymous No.15049887]

>>15049793
>BAHASHSAHUaduiahsd holy shit thanks for the laugh
I was under the impression that sweet foods are uncommon in Japan? I heard it is quite rare for people do have sugary drinks in Japan ever, like colas and such.

[Anonymous No.15049888]

>>15049876
Ice cream usually is in a premade cone or small 100g package, the idea of getting a gallon tub is absurd unless ordered for a party
Pizza can vary but those tony pizza's that you get for like 4/5 in the US are around 2-3 dollars depending where you go
Soda can depend usually just pay for a 200ml of coke at a machine for like 100-130 yen depending how close to a trains station I am

[Anonymous No.15049894]

>>15049882
Some races have longer life expectancy than others.

[Anonymous No.15049897]

>>15049887
> I heard it is quite rare for people do have sugary drinks in Japan ever, like colas and such.
Sugar is all over usually glazed on breads, soda machines often have sugar or synthetic sugar. Every single coffee machine sells coffee loaded with sugar. Sweets shops are everywhere, every cobini often has half an isle taken up by sweets/pastries that are loaded.

[Anonymous No.15049911]

>>15049894
We're mistaking X -> Y for Y -> X.......some races have longer life expectancy than others BECAUSE of their diet/lifestyle. Explain why China has such a shorter life expectancy than Japan if race is supposed to account for these outcomes? Han Chinese and Yamato (most Japs) Japanese are very similar genetically but have a vast difference in life expectancy.

[Anonymous No.15049927]

I heard Japanese people drink a good amount. How much do average Japanese adults drink?

[Anonymous No.15049937]

>>15049888
>Pizza can vary but those tony pizza's that you get for like 4/5 in the US are around 2-3 dollars depending where you go
So frozen pizza is cheaper in Japan than it is in the USA?

[Anonymous No.15049948]

>>15049897
How much of these sweet foods do they have then? I assume, as with all things related to Japanese diet, they have much less sweets than the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.15049956]

>>15049937
4/5 I meant get 4 for 5 in the US, in Japan would probably be at 2-3 dollars or 298 yen to start. really depends where you go, cheaper to just buy a 'margarita pizza' that is essentially a wrap for 2 bucks at 711

[Anonymous No.15049961]

>>15049948
Shit loads, every 711/familymart/lawsons has an isle filled with sweets and people buy them constantly. Candy/sweets stores are all over.

Just walk daily, do the ~5km per day most japanese do while eating smaller portions, congrats you'll be thinner quick

[Anonymous No.15049984]

Same reason why Italians and Spainards live quite long: they eat smaller portions and generally stay more active (cardio)

[Anonymous No.15049985]

Well, Japan is an island, so it must be all the seafood they eat.

[Anonymous No.15049991]

>>15049717
Japanese diet barely has any veg in it.

[Anonymous No.15050008]

>>15049991
?

[Anonymous No.15050015]

>>15050008
Not him but most Japanese dishes have cabbage or some other meh thing in them, most dishes look hugely plentiful of veggies and shit, until you realize they are sliced paper thin for presentation purposes.

[Anonymous No.15050036]

>>15050008
It's true. Go to Japan and see what people eat. It's carbs, carbs, carbs. Sandwiches, noodles, fried shit, battered everything. Fresh veg is fairly expensive, so even when I was cooking for myself, I found myself buying celery and fresh greens just to have in order to get them and the roughage. Sure, there's some green in a lot of things but it's usually a tiny amount, just there to adjust flavour. Only a few things actually have veg as the main component, and it's usually fried stuff like okonomoyaki which is pretty much a fried cabbage pancake.

[Anonymous No.15050037]

>>15050015
>most dishes look hugely plentiful of veggies and shit, until you realize they are sliced paper thin for presentation purposes.
Sure but saying that it has "barely veg in it" is something else

[Anonymous No.15050046]

>>15050037
Compared to what people generally eat in the West where there'll be a good amount of veg on the side? Your average roast dinner serving will have more vegetables in it then your average Japanese person's daily diet.

[Anonymous No.15050048]

>>15050008
That's based on what you can buy from convenience stores and eat at restaurants. Home cooked meals have more vegetables in them.

[Anonymous No.15050050]

>>15049948
Japan is HUGE on sweets and desserts. Practically every store and restaurant is packed with them.

[Anonymous No.15050060]

Japanese diet is not particular healthy. While American normal diet is too unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.15050063]

>>15050048
The thing is most Japanese people eat very similar at home what they eat out, just with even LESS meat and veg and more rice.

[Anonymous No.15050066]

>>15050037
Because the amount is shaven down to look like it's plentiful on the dish, however if you add up the actual amount it's going to be basically nothing.

You can slice a carrot to cover a pizza dish, doesn't mean it's a huge amount of carrot

>>15050048
Cooking at home is a nice luxury, stay a contractor so you're not stuck picking up the 398 yen cobini meals

>>15050050
Yeah it would not surprise me if a large part of the population is just diabetic, the amount of people who go to alternative meds or quack doctors for a 'healthy' bill is insane.

[Anonymous No.15050085]

OP, the famous Okinawan longevity study is pretty outdated, and modern Japanese suffer from a lot of the same poor food choices you see in a ton of modern, industrialized nations. That older diet was heavily plant based, got most of its carbs from one of the healthiest types of yam/sweet potato, was supported with fish and very little meat. The Mediterranean diet comes fairly close in terms of food sources and diet composition, but favors more use of oil and more lax restrictions on meat.

A lot of cultural aspects fed into it as well, a sort of heritage of ingrained frugality and wise use of resources (given that Japan was historically pretty populated given how little of its land could actually be cultivated).

So in essence, eat lots of vegetables, limit meat intake, and consume just what you need to sustain (fasting and bodyweight studies have also shown that being slightly underweight by modern measurement standards actually contributes to a longer lifespan).

>>15049798
0/10 bait, try harder.

[Anonymous No.15050087]

It's not that there's anything wrong with the food.
There's a problem with Americans who eat too much.

[Anonymous No.15050119]

>>15050085
Okinawa's diet is changing due to the influence of the U.S. military base
Life expectancy has come down a lot in the last decade.

[Anonymous No.15050143]

>>15050119
Japanese numbers fucking suck, Japan basically does the 'don't ask don't tell, not my problem if I got it wrong' shit. It's like how they report the whole country has less than 5k homeless people because they asked a few parts of the country how many homeless people they thought they saw. I'm not joking. People go to alternative medicine shops vs going to a real doctor so it won't show to their Job or raise any issues in health payments. Quack doctors exist all over and real doctors are stupid expensive.

Japan would do 'selective testing' on specific people and groups to make the numbers always go up and be the best of the best rather than report bad news. It's not uncommon to see overweight people in Japan, it's just far less than in europe/america due to various reasons relating to lifestyle, income, and such.

[Anonymous No.15050152]

Why are people so Healthy in Japan? - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WiUQtOhfIc
walk everywhere, small portion size, less cheap foods, less soda, less gluten, more fermented foods, less red meat, more sea food, green tea, less processed food

[Anonymous No.15050168]

>>15050152
They are thinner, not healthier. The two aren't always related or africa must be the healthiest place on earth

[Anonymous No.15050208]

>>15049750
Dumb weeb

[Anonymous No.15050332]

>>15050143
>It's not uncommon to see overweight people in Japan
Bullshit, it is rare in Japan to see fat people.

[Anonymous No.15050347]

>>15050143
I lived in Japan for 3 years and saw a single significantly fat jap and even that fat jap would’ve only been borderline obese in the US.

[Anonymous No.15050359]

>>15050168
They are thinner and healthier. In Africa, people take drugs all day and eat very low-quality foods unlike Japan, where people stick to only drink + smoke and eat high quality foods.

[Anonymous No.15050361]

UMAAAAAAAAAAI DESU YO

[Anonymous No.15050368]

>>15050332
>>15050347
Not talking /ck/ fat or the smaller burger term for fat but overweight yes. Think for a moment retards.

>>15050359
(you)

[Anonymous No.15050369]

>>15049702
>healthy
for who? the stupid japs or the planet?

[Anonymous No.15050374]

>Have $5 in burgerland
>"Let's see what I have around me..."
>Wendys
>McDonalds
>Burger King
>Fatty's Pizza
>Smegmalord Tacos
>Popeyes
>Salad bar
>But salad is $12 for some reason and you only have $5 to spend
>"Yea uhhh...lemmie get a Big Mac..."

>Have ¥550 in riceland
>「あぁ・・今日は何食べろかな?」
>7-Eleven with freshly packed bentos of rice, fish, veggies, eggs, etc.
>Ramen stands
>Vending machines filled with various low-sugar authentic teas
>Salads that actually cost what you'd expect chopped up lettuce and tomatoes to cost
>「あの・・・味噌ラメンをください!」

[Anonymous No.15050378]

>>15050368
>living longer and having far less coronary / blood pressure issues is not proof of them being healthy
jesus christ faggot why are you rigorously denying that japs are healthy people

[Anonymous No.15050386]

>>15050378
>jesus christ faggot why are you rigorously denying that japs are healthy people
Okay remove african americans and latinos from the mix and focus on one race compared to a slew of them.

Japs aren't healthy, they can barely lift 20kg to put into their overhead bins. Can't do more than a 4 hour hiking in the mountains. Not very healthy if you ask me

[Anonymous No.15050388]

>>15050369
Minke Whales are common as fuck. You're letting preprogrammed 'WHALING IS BAD!' prejudice get in the way of actual facts.

[Anonymous No.15050392]

>>15050386
>they can barely lift 20kg to put into their overhead bins
that's because they're short

[Anonymous No.15050395]

>>15049991
I've never been to Japan, so I don't have any first-hand experience, but I would imagine the diet from the megalopolis-dwelling urbanites to be terrible, and the one from country people to be vastly superior in terms of fresh produce

[Anonymous No.15050399]

>>15050392
Yeah and the trains, buses, and other modes of transportation are generally built around that in mind. Have you never worked or been to japan?

[Anonymous No.15050404]

>>15050386
>Can't do more than a 4 hour hiking in the mountains. Not very healthy if you ask me
Retard, old Japanese people are renowned for being long distance hikers, they always are fucking walking endlessly and this is reflected by the fact that a huge proportion of UNESCO hiking trails are in Japan.
In fact, I would go ahead and say that hiking with Japanese people is a chore because they don't fucking stop. The only other people in the world I've met who hike as much as the Japanese are Russians, but that isn't a fair comparison because Russian hikers are usually mentally ill and want to get themselves lost in a ravine and die.

[Anonymous No.15050405]

>>15050395
It's about the same all over, only thing in the country is beef/pork is generally cheaper.

[Anonymous No.15050425]

>>15050404
>Retard, old Japanese people are renowned for being long distance hikers, they always are fucking walking endlessly and this is reflected by the fact that a huge proportion of UNESCO hiking trails are in Japan.
Thanks kensama, most have horrible back problems. Lots just walk because it's better than waiting to die in a home.
>In fact, I would go ahead and say that hiking with Japanese people is a chore because they don't fucking stop.
Most get tired easily, I remember during golden week last year I did something like 25km(not that big a deal) in a day stuff in gifu around hida furukawa. Had to stop every fucking 20-30 minutes or so because tired.
>Russian hikers are usually mentally ill and want to get themselves lost in a ravine and die.
Damn gotta remind myself when I go to Hokkaido again.

[Anonymous No.15050430]

>>15050388
>whaling
implying that's the only thing they do. japan is know for overfishing, their seas are empty and all those fish they eat come from other countries were they just go and steal them like it was nothing, funny thing is they are now in a fight for fish against the chinese who are doing exactly the same as they do and japs are super mad about it.

[Anonymous No.15050439]

>>15049702
>Why are small 600kcal meals of veggies and rice and constantly hydrating with sugarless mugicha/oolongcha healthy?
Jeez I dunno anon...

[Anonymous No.15050460]

>>15049712
Fermented rotten soy beans and most have it daily for breakfast

[Anonymous No.15050471]

>>15050425
>most have horrible back problems.
LOOOOL my Japanese dentist has horrible back problems. He's like 75 and quite active though, but he got back problems cuz he hiked so much

[Anonymous No.15050486]

>>15050439
how many calories a day do japanese have?

[Anonymous No.15050503]

>>15049702
What is it with fatherless weebs worshipping Japan? You would last 5 seconds over there. They hate creepy white people.

Weebs are the kind of people that absolutely will not be left unsupervised around young children of either gender at a family Christmas party.

[Anonymous No.15050533]

>>15050503
I am OP and I'm Indian (My nationality is American but by ethnicity I'm not a gigantic milkbreathed white) and I have a father. I fucking despise anime and I find everyone over the age of 15 who watches anime as strange. Japanese clothing and aesthetics and porn makes me uncomfortable. Japanese people are also autistically shy, which makes me uncomfortable (Japanese-Americans are very normal and based and usually aren't gigantic fat faggots). I also have no idea how to use chopsticks.
I am not a weeb and have no desire to ever do anything related to Otaku shit. I just want to learn more about their diet because they seem to be exceedingly healthy, and their diaspora largely maintain the dietary habits of native Japanese because they know its good for them.

[Anonymous No.15050584]

>>15049702

Buddhism

[Anonymous No.15051096]

>convenience stores chock full of junk food every 100m no matter where you go
>endless family restaurants, self serve bakeries and fast food chains with very high cal foods
>dessert focused cafes, crepe shops, ice cream shops etc are super popular
>most noodle and rice dishes are extremely high cal and heavy in carbs/fat
>big drinking culture and a lot of beer consumption

I don't claim to have expert knowledge of Japanese dietary habits but it's hard to imagine they could maintain a legitimately healthy diet in that sort of food environment. People always say they just eat fish in small portions and drink green tea, but nowhere you go out to eat has moderate portions or particularly healthy meals. You'd have to assume that Japanese people must eat most of their food at home rather than when they're out, but the food industry is on such a massive scale that it seems unlikely. The sheer ubiquity of convenience stores is mind blowing, restaurants are always packed with salary men eating massive bowls of noodles, cute cafes are always filled with girls, there are just so many people eating so much junk in Japan it's hard to imagine they all maintain healthy diets outside of it.

I know that people who dare suggest nips aren't a paragon of health and fitness get shouted down by weeaboos every time but I really think people give Japanese people way too much credit. I don't think they eat like irredeemable fatasses but I also don't think they avoid getting fat by virtue of their healthy lifestyles.

[Anonymous No.15051109]

>>15049702
Tons of probiotics. Lots of rice. Not overly sweet (low in sugar). And meals are high protein low calorie.

[Anonymous No.15051111]

>>15051096
I live in Japan and people here genuinely think that corn on pizza is delicious and some sort of hidden italian delicacy. People here are really fucking nuts about italian food but can never remotely cook anything like it. There are loads upon loads of "italian" restaurants here but when you go in it's always some weird fucking japanese ripoff where they fuck up all of the dishes by adding jap shit like raw squid and eel and shit to it and then they try to fucking play it off as "real italian food" It doesn't help that people here don't know what normal bread or cheese is. It's all fucking gross. I have not had any normal-tasting cheese in all the time I've lived here, and good bread is about as rare as a properly paid salaryman. These people are born on this island, they will live their whole lives on this island, and they will die on this island without ever tasting real bread or cheese in their life and that's just sort of sad. The worst part is that because no japanese person actually knows what real italian food is like, nobody can call restaurants out on this bullshit, everyone eats it all up and calls it "honto ni umaiii uwuwuwu" and everyone thinks this is what real italian food is like. It's just sad. "OOOhhh rettsu addu fishu eggu andu seaweedu to pasta carbonara don't u kno this is how rearu itarian peeporu eat!" The worst part for me is that japan doesn't just massacre classic italian food like this, but they also do it with every other country's cuisine imaginable. French, spanish, mexican, turkish, you name it. They botch everything they come across as "wow foreign so cool" but it's never apparently fucking good enough unless they douse it in soy sauce and raw octopus to make it "authentic european" food. Don't get me wrong I love me some japanese food but fuck this country for ruining foreign food culture and fuck the people for being too retarded to not know what real food is like, even though they kind of can't help it, fuck em it's gross

[Anonymous No.15051120]

>>15049991
Pickled vegetable is one of three essential elements of a Japanese meal, you yard.

[Anonymous No.15051142]

>>15051111
Japs are some of the most close minded people when it comes to foreign cuisine, really. In the chart about several countries stances on foreign cuisines, the "Japan" column shows that very little people would actually be willing to try, let alone enjoy, food that is very different from theirs such as Indian or Turkish. Hell, even a large number of western countries foods were rated lowly by japs, with other far east cuisines being given more favourable scores. Show them asam laksa or falafel, and I doubt that they'll willingly eat it without altering it with mayonnaise, soysauce or corn.
Why the fuck do japs like corn so much?

[Anonymous No.15051164]

>>15051096
>but I also don't think they avoid getting fat by virtue of their healthy lifestyles.
So....how do they avoid getting fat then if not by virtue of their lifestyle? Do they just fucking wish away their fat you dolt? Weight is always a function of lifestyle, not genetics. You don't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.15051166]

>>15051142
>food that is very different from theirs such as Indian or Turkish
They rated Indian 63 though, and Japan is full of Indian restaurants. They have curry in common, I don't think it's that foreign to them.

Not disagreeing with you in general though, they're isolated and nationalistic so naturally think less of other countries food.

[Anonymous No.15051169]

>>15050486
1200~1500kcal.
Plus alcohol
But their alcohol has calories on it all, so it's fairly easy to get low calorie beer or just good $9/bottle 18-year old whisky and still stay below 2000 getting drunk every night.
plus all their veggies are locally grown so they're dirt cheap, people are heavily encouraged to be in some sort of club and everyone exercises like a mad cunt

[Anonymous No.15051173]

>>15051111
>OOOhhh rettsu addu fishu eggu andu seaweedu to pasta carbonara don't u kno this is how rearu itarian peeporu eat!
Surely Japanese people don't actually believe the food they're getting is authentic and don't think the Italian/French/Mexican/Turkish food they get conforms to the cuisine of those respective nations?
Nobody in America actually thinks the food they ever get is "authentic Italian" or "authentic Indian"

[Anonymous No.15051177]

>>15051169
>people are heavily encouraged to be in some sort of club
What kind of club?
>and still stay below 2000 getting drunk every night.
Japanese usually get drunk every night?

[Anonymous No.15051178]

>>15051166
Japanese curry is disgusting and everyone knows it. I have a feeling that Japs don't like the strong spices in most Indian regional curries, which is why their variant is so shit
In fact, I think most japs can't really stand strong tasting food, hence their low rating on South East Asian food in that chart

[Anonymous No.15051184]

>>15051169
Not to mention that they do 10h of PE class a week, 1/3 of which is studying dietary intake and balancing meals, health and physiology.
Cooking classes are mandatory from 4th grade, by 5th grade they can gut, scale and fillet fish on their own.
They do Home Ec until they graduate highschool at 19yo.
On top of this, nearly everyone is forced to be in a sports club at school, which is 7~9am and 2~6pm practice 6 days a week all year round.
They take fitness more seriously than /fit/ does.

[Anonymous No.15051185]

>>15051096
So basically they have moderately unhealthy food but they just eat vastly smaller portions of it?

[Anonymous No.15051190]

>>15051177
In Japan it's considered weird not to get fucking wasted every night.

[Anonymous No.15051197]

>>15051185
Yep.
Japanese Cookie Monster on Sesame Street only slowly and politely eats 1 or 2 cookies, for to Govt rules

[Anonymous No.15051198]

>>15051190
How do they maintain their health and longevity if they drink so much? Do they just drink healthier booze like Sake /low calorie beer or does their active lifestyle and calorie-restrained diet negate the damage alcohol does?

[Anonymous No.15051201]

>>15051197
>Japanese Cookie Monster on Sesame Street only slowly and politely eats 1 or 2 cookies, for to Govt rules
tfw cant tell if youre joking kek

[Anonymous No.15051208]

>>15051198
Bit of both really.
Sake is sugary as fuck though compared to hard liquor.
But where they differ in their drinking culture is they eat while getting drunk, like Europeans.
A Jap will almost never go to a bar to only drink.
They'll nearly always go to an izakaya, kushikatsu or yakitori place and smash 50yen skewers of meat while drinking whisky highballs

Also their healthcare system is fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.15051219]

>>15051208
>izakaya, kushikatsu or yakitori place and smash 50yen skewers of meat while drinking whisky highballs
So.....they just do what everyone else in American + Europe does then? They just go out and eat fried foods while drinking highballs? Surprised the japs stay so healthy from these drinking habits.

[Anonymous No.15051226]

>>15051184
>7~9am and 2~6pm practice 6 days a week all year round.
Bullshit, thats the whole fucking day!

[Anonymous No.15051227]

>>15051219
Yanks, Aussies, Brits etc never eat while drinking though.
They all pregame half a bottle on an empty stomach (to get drunk faster) then go out, drink a shitload then get $20 of Macca's on the way home at 3am

[Anonymous No.15051233]

>>15051227
Whats so bad about drinking on an empty stomach? It saves you money gets you drunk faster and less calories by the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.15051237]

>>15051226
Yeah, wht do you think they're cool with working such long hours?
They train em young that you have to be at school 12h/day doing sports practice for half the day.
Of course there's other clubs too like art, music etc
Why do you think there's so much 2hu fanart?
Most of it is drawn by autistic fat 14yo JP highschool girls in their 6 hours of art club a day

[Anonymous No.15051281]

Advantage they have with federally controlling their education system is they can do things like force every town/district to have a Dietician who plans the school lunches, sources local ingredients and balances the kids meals so they get exactly the right # of calories, vitamins, minerals and proteins at lunch time.
Kids aren't allowed to leave anything on their plate.

[Anonymous No.15051297]

>>15051237
>>15051281
Holy shit, so education reform would be a great way to start getting USA to stop being so fucking fat?

[Anonymous No.15051357]

>>15049991
Amerishart post right here

[Anonymous No.15051362]

>>15050460
Are fermented soy beans actually good for you?

[Anonymous No.15051410]

Most Japs I saw were skinny fats with poor postures and the food was carb heavy crap. They just don't eat as much as westerners do. Portion sizes in restaurants are quite small for example.

[Anonymous No.15051416]

Low calories, small portions, lots of moving around. Healthy options widely available in every vending machine and convenience store. That's it. It's not and was never rocket science.

[Anonymous No.15051428]

>>15051416
I can tell you've never been to Japan

[Anonymous No.15051439]

>>15051428
I believe you believe that.

[Anonymous No.15051460]

>>15051362
It's a superfood. Amazing for digestion and amazing for skin and hair and such. And it has great macro nutrients.

[Anonymous No.15051472]

>>15049728
How healthy is riding a bike if you get in a minor accident and end up as a quadriplegic?

[Anonymous No.15051474]

>>15049796
Which is what?

[Anonymous No.15051674]

healthy

[Anonymous No.15051688]

>>15049702
they had centuries of refining it. Under harsh conditions that nurtured focus on essence.

USA is the opposite. Just poison.

[Anonymous No.15051724]

>>15051472
How healthy is it being a fat American?

[Anonymous No.15051735]

>>15049702
Two factors I have noticed
A. lots of food that is good for digestion, pickles and fermented products
B. a relative lack of high density foods, like sugar, oil, fat etc

A lot comes down to statistical aberrations and their relative wealth.
For instance they do not allow immigrants, who typically die at an age comparable to the country they arrived from.
Their is also I suspect a very low infant mortality, even developed countries may have factors that make this difficult to manage
Incredibly low rates of infectious disease, coming in part from lifestyle and in part from geographic isolation

Remember nothing makes you live longer, many things will kill you

[Anonymous No.15051739]

>>15051173
Most people in western countries know on some level that the Chinese slop they get isn't actually what Chinese people eat but some westernized version of it... but they don't care. They just don't think about it. Same thing

[Anonymous No.15051746]

>>15051233
Nothing bad about it, just a cultural difference.

I lived in China for a while, if you go drinking it's just expected by default that you order finger food alongside it even at a club or karaoke. There are some bars where you just drink but it's def not the standard

[Anonymous No.15051757]

Japs are thin because they're low test (even more so than other asians) High testosterone eases weight gain, that's why you see so many black and especially so many pacific islander hambeasts. Nips hace some of the lowest testosterone levels in the world so they're usually skinny manlets (smaller portions than other countries also contribute of course)

[Anonymous No.15051787]

>>15050386
Even non-Hispanic white americans are 42,2% obese, not just overweight but obese. Also their life expectancy is still lower than that of Japanese and lower than that of Hispanic Americans. You're clueless, fattie.

[Anonymous No.15051804]

>>15051757
You're a fucking idiot. Women, who naturally have less testosterone than men, accumulate fat more easily. And there's a pretty linear inverse correlation between bodyfat percentage and testosterone levels.

[Anonymous No.15051813]

>>15051757
>>15051804
I think you are making a mistake in assuming that weight gain is a factor.
If you put on weight more easily, you simply eat less.

[Anonymous No.15051869]

>>15050533
>Japanese clothing and aesthetics and porn makes me uncomfortable.
Indians shitting on the street, polluting the environment and gang raping female tourists makes me uncomfortable personally.

[Anonymous No.15051892]

>>15049796
>the smartest humans
most evil, liars and deceivers but not the smartest

[Anonymous No.15051914]

>>15049702
>plutinium enriched sea food
>healthy
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15051924]

>>15049702
I’d rather live to 70 than be an ugly centenarian dicklet

[Anonymous No.15051953]

>>15051892
>DA JOO MAN IS KEEPING US DOWN WITH HIS TRICKNOLOGY, YO
lol, ashkenazi jews have the highest IQ's, facts don't care about your feefees, stormtard

[Anonymous No.15052026]

>>15049702
no sugar
fermented food
high in omega 3
high in animal fats
low in PUFAs

[Anonymous No.15052113]

>>15050460
>>15051362
>>15051460
I promise you most of us dont eat it for breakfast. I normally do an egg over rice or grab something from 711 on the way to work

[Anonymous No.15052588]

>>15050374
^^^^^ this is a huge part of it I think
Japanese eat-out experience is so much more varied that in the West.

Other here you've got the choice between unhealthy fast food or the restaurant experience.

In Japan on top of the fast food and restaurants, there's all these other places that serve affordable, quick, healthy and tasty food.
Eating out is an acceptable thing to do as an alternative to cooking yourself in Japan.
In the West you've either got to cook yourself, eat junk or spend a fortune, there's no in-between.

In Japan you can either get something from a convenience store or from a food bar, curry, ramen, beef don, ect. All for an affordable price.
A Japanese salary man never has to cook for himself

ALL Japanese chefs at any level take pride in what they do. From the cheapest fastest thing, the cooks still gonna put a ton of effort in.

[Anonymous No.15052632]

>>15052113
I mean yeah it's not super popular for breakfast outside of those old folks who eat more traditionally. That's my understanding, anyway.

Though I am American and I like to eat natto with my breakfast. It's very easy and delicious and healthy too.

[Anonymous No.15052646]

>>15049702
Japs have good genes and lifestyles. Sitting on the floor on it's own increases longevity because you maintain more functional strength as you age which leads to less falls.
The other big factor in aging is simply calories. It's not that any particular food is superior. They dont eat a lot, probably because their food is less flavorful.
In America we have top scientists researching how to make food more addicting and cause you to overeat. We also spend all day sitting, in chairs, at desks, in cars, etc.

[Anonymous No.15052649]

>>15051120
pickles are on a big mac too I guess mcdonalds is a balanced meal

[Anonymous No.15052658]

>>15052649
>strawmanning this hard
Reddit is missing you.

[Anonymous No.15052870]

>>15051869
>gang raping female tourists makes me uncomfortable personally
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.15052894]

>>15052026
>low in PUFAs
Animal fats are PUFAs you retard.

[Anonymous No.15052915]

>>15052588
>All for an affordable price.
>A Japanese salary man never has to cook for himself
A more honest way of phrasing this is that a Japanese salaryman has no time to ever cook for himself.

[Anonymous No.15053657]

no soda kike

[Anonymous No.15053676]

Anon I’m visiting the Southern United States right now (Arkansas) and these are the portions I was just served in a restaurant. If you want an idea of why japan is relatively healthier than the USA, look at the portions they serve us here. How the fuck am I supposed to finish this without feeling like an inactive fatfuck all day?

[Anonymous No.15053684]

>>15051472
How healthy is it driving a car if you get in a minor accident and kill a family of five and their dog?

[Anonymous No.15053690]

>>15053676
lol

[Anonymous No.15053877]

>>15053676
That is fucking ridiculous. Do Southern American restaurants serve bigger portions than the rest of the country?

[Anonymous No.15053906]

Don't the Japanese have a shit load of mayonnaise?

[Anonymous No.15053918]

>>15049706
basetto

[Anonymous No.15053924]

>>15049706
why is this shit green

[Anonymous No.15054029]

>>15051472
I'm Dutch and bike accidents rarely cripple anyone besides if your drunk as fuck and being a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.15054063]

>>15053906
Mayo is healthy unless it's american mayo which is full of seed oils and hfcs

[Anonymous No.15054066]

>>15054063
How do i know what a healthy type of mayo is. I got kraft olive oil mayo at home for my salads.

[Anonymous No.15054199]

>>15051953
Imagine thinking this is true
Autistic ziontards are responsible for all school schootings to date, dont forget that.

[Anonymous No.15054201]

>>15054199
>Autistic ziontards are responsible for all school schootings to date
Debunked.

[Anonymous No.15054218]

>>15051472
I'm not talking about a motorized bike aka a motorcycle where people are zooming along at 120 km/h and then they turn into airborne human ragdolls cartwheeling into gravity's pull when they accidentally hit a pebble on the ground. You get into a minor accident on a bike and it's like "haha whoops scraped my shin up pretty bad there better put some polysporin on it"

[Anonymous No.15054227]

>>15051472
I can smell the McDonalds through this laptop reading this post

[Anonymous No.15054228]

>>15053906
Yes, they eat more mayo than Americans do, probably, but they're also eating way less red meat. Mayonnaise is high in fat, but it's not particularly unhealthy other than that.

[Anonymous No.15054238]

I'd really like to watch a video on YT about Japanese food culture without the comment section de-evolving in American bashing.

[Anonymous No.15054583]

>>15054228
>, but they're also eating way less red meat.
What about muh wagyu beef

[Anonymous No.15054640]

>>15054583
quality over quantity, people get it if they're going out with someone and trying to impress them. It's also common practice to buy beef for people as a present

[Anonymous No.15054652]

>>15054238
Considering that Japanese food culture is the antithesis of American food culture, I can see why that happens.

[Anonymous No.15054766]

>>15051674
What the fuck is this? some kind of japanese mukbang dish?

[Anonymous No.15054798]

First there are the smal portion sizes and a different approach to a meal. In the west you get a slab of meat with a pile of cabs, veggies are an afterthought. In Japan veggies and sides play a more important part in a meal. It's typical to get a smal amount of good quality meat. Less low quality processed food. Its quite cheap to get a healthy and fresh meal on the go. Little restaurants are all over the place and you can get fresh made dishes in 7/11. It's mostly rice/noodles with a bit of meat and veggies. Not much calories.
People walk everywhere and fat people are shamed. It's also normal für older people to either work till old age or take part in the community. It keeps them mentally and physicaly fit. I think that's the most important part. People that live long and healthy lives are activee and have a purpose each day. They don't sit on their ass in front of the TV.

[Anonymous No.15056039]

>>15052588
>Japanese eat-out experience is so much more varied that in the West.
Definately
Worst part about leaving Japan after living there for a while is going back to the west where every restaurant/pub has the same fucking menu.

[Anonymous No.15056140]

>>15053924
They put a crazy amount of wasabi in there.

[Anonymous No.15056166]

>>15054066
Just read the ingredients, here it says that it has canola, soybean oil and sugar, those are bad. I make my own mayo, tastes better and it takes like a minute with a hand blender

[Anonymous No.15057369]

>>15053676
surely thats a plate for 2 right?
whats even in that
>fried torilla
>cheese
>mayo
>chicken??
what even is the dish?

[Anonymous No.15057381]

>>15057369
Thats a plate for one lmao. It was a Buffalo Chicken Wrapper. Fried tenders with cheddar cheese, shreded cabbage, pickles, homemade ranch, wrapped in flour tortilla.

[Anonymous No.15057391]

>>15049789
They are the 2nd largest consumers of high fructose corn syrup behind the US

Shut the hell up and just eat less retards

[Anonymous No.15057409]

>>15057381
I'm jealous if it was cheap, because I would eat that in one meal (I run, so my energy requirements suck).
>>15057391
By what metric are you measuring Japan as the second highest?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/495946/consumption-share-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-worldwide-by-country/
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2012/11/30/High-fructose-consumption-higher-diabetes/29781354333120/

[Anonymous No.15058338]

NO. It has NOTHING to do with food. Longevity is an issue of your general lifestyle, not just of 'food'.

It is just based on the fact that they are moral-less people who feed on each other's vital energy in an open and unrestricted way. This allows those who win in that game to reach a very old age, the whole social organization being based on what is usually called 'gerontocracy'. They can literally do what they want and no one controls it in any way.

They learned from the masters at the art of 'nourishing vitality' (from wherever it comes, humans included), the Chinese.

It is nothing asian in itself tho, we are all blood-thirsty monsters inside, and thats what guides all our actions.

[Anonymous No.15058366]

>>15057409
HFCS is sugar, what a dumb chart

[Anonymous No.15058374]

>>15058366
actually you're the dumb one if you cant see why someone would want to distinguish hfcs from other sugars.

[Anonymous No.15059078]

Jap diet is relatively healthy compared to US
Doesn't mean it's healthy. They're carb and salt heavy and have their share of junk food. It's mostly portion size and the fact it's socially unacceptable to be a whale.

[Anonymous No.15059099]

>>15059078
So basically is the answer.....caloric restriction?

[Anonymous No.15059110]

>>15059099
yes and healthy habits. A lot of them are locked into a smaller portion constant three meal cycle instead of binge eating at 7PM after starving all day. you're topping off the tank throughout the day and burning as you go instead of binging and sleeping on a heavy dose of food

[Anonymous No.15060565]

>>15051166
>They have curry in common, I don't think it's that foreign to them.
Lmao. The Japs discovered curry via the English; their curries have about as much to do with India as Norwegian tacos have to do with Mexico.

>>15051178
>Japanese curry is disgusting and everyone knows it.
Yes and no. On the one hand most boxed curries are fucking garbo (japs eat them despite this because they were fed it as kids and/or can't cook; it's like how adult burgers eat boxed mac and cheese) but restaurant curries are great and so are the better boxed ones. I was unimpressed with boxed jap curry despite being something of a weeb because all I could get my hands on was Golden but then I found a place that carries hot Java and I have it probably once a week at this point.

[Anonymous No.15060574]

>>15051166
> Japan is full of Indian restaurants.
My dad is from India and when he went on a business trip to Kyoto in the 90's, he told me that the some of the best Indian food he's tasted abroad in his life was in Japan. He also said the best Italian food he's ever tasted, period, was in Japan.

[Anonymous No.15060601]

>>15060565
>as Norwegian tacos have to do with Mexico
So they're better?

[Anonymous No.15060659]

>>15053676
Looks like a light pre-dinner snack.

[Anonymous No.15060669]

>>15053676
Jesus christ do Americans really?

[Anonymous No.15060826]

>>15051184
Spicy isn't the only way to make a cuisine right.
As you add more spices, the amount of seasoning, oil and broth increases proportionally.
What you end up with is food that has lost its natural flavor.

[Anonymous No.15060890]

>>15059078
>They're carb and salt heavy and have their share of junk food.
Why is that not healthy?

[Anonymous No.15060930]

>>15057409
They are 4th for high fructose corn syrup lmao. Read your graph they simply eat significantly less calories

Thanks for arguing for me I guess..?

[Anonymous No.15060936]

if they're so healthy why do they still kill themselves

[Anonymous No.15060946]

>>15049897
>soda machines often have sugar or synthetic sugar.
Uhhh sir, more of the common beverages from those machines are unsweetened cold teas.

[Anonymous No.15060986]

>>15051120
Pickling destroys micronutrients, creates carcinogens, and adds salt and sugar. Pickled vegetables aren't really good for you in the way that fresh ones are.

[Anonymous No.15060997]

>>15049736
He means you're a fat lazy bitch who wont eat less and move more to lose pounds

[Anonymous No.15061110]

>>15060890
refined carbs are not good in uncontrolled quantities. japanese don't have too much of a problem with that
too much salt is not good for heart

[Anonymous No.15061137]

Japanese Salaryman diet

Breakfast: coffee & cigarettes
Lunch: coffee & cigarettes
Dinner: Big Mac

[Anonymous No.15061138]

>>15061137
そんな事してたら死んじゃうよ

[Anonymous No.15061143]

>>15061110
What are "uncontrolled quantities"? What is "too much salt"?

[Anonymous No.15061154]

>>15061143
large sized fast food meal

[Anonymous No.15061322]

>>15053676
Japanese portions are actually about the same as American, they just trick you into thinking it's less because it's in different bowls/plates. In reality it's almost the exact same.

[Anonymous No.15061334]

>>15053676
a lot of people don't get that in the US typically you request to take home the rest with the portion sizes

[Anonymous No.15061568]

>>15061322
You are such a clueless fat retard. Japanese have considerably smaller quantities and much less calorie dense foods, such as veggies and fish. Kys.

[Anonymous No.15061699]

>>15051111
I'm down to save this and repost it as pasta

[Anonymous No.15061758]

>>15049702
More holistic Buddhist and Shintoist ethics that align with nature instead of the fuck it yolo attitude of Abrahamics.

[Anonymous No.15061761]

>>15049702
Fish, simple carbs, and empty vegetables.

[Anonymous No.15061850]

[Anonymous No.15061905]

[Anonymous No.15061921]

>>15049702
It's not, carbs everywhere. They just walk everywhere instead of driving, exercise makes a huge difference

[Anonymous No.15061937]

>>15049702
>If so, what aspects of their diet and cuisine makes it so healthy?

No flavor.
No flavor = no overreating

[Anonymous No.15061943]

>>15061699
it already is anon

[Anonymous No.15061971]

>>15053676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0SqPTMxMI

[Anonymous No.15062028]

>>15061921
If carbs are unhealthy, why do they have the highest life expectancy?
>b-but muh walking a few blocks to the train station and to the supermarket
Even if this were the cause of their longevity, their diet doesn't seem to offset it, so again, why is it "unhealthy"?

[Anonymous No.15062162]

>>15049736
They're not thin because of some magical nipponese secret, they just eat less and move more than westerners. Anyone here could do the same.
But they likely won't, because if they would we wouldn't be so fucking fat.

[Anonymous No.15062231]

kuuki wo yomu 24/7 burns many calories

[Anonymous No.15062254]

Not only the Japanese, but the Korean are thin. It's genes. East Asians have low insulin resistance. They can't get as fat as westerners. Because before that they got diabetic. https://www.clinicalcorrelations.org/2018/11/30/how-diabetes-differs-in-the-east-asian-patient-implications-for-diagnosis-and-treatment/

[Anonymous No.15062287]

>>15057409
>They are the 2nd largest consumers of high fructose corn syrup behind the US
>>15060930
>They are 4th for high fructose corn syrup lmao
Goal post status: shifted

[Anonymous No.15062308]

>>15062287
Goal was to get you to stop being retarded about caloric intake lmao

High fructose is always an additive not something people manually put in their foods. Thus, your argument stating they rarely have added sugar and avoid sugar is simply wrong since even their bread has high fructose corn syrup. They eat smaller portions as we can see from YOUR graph

Use your brain numbnuts

[Anonymous No.15062325]

>>15062254
There may be a genetic predisposition, however diet plays the major role in determining weight and burden of disease. A shift to a westernised diet (dietary convergence) results in more or less the same health outcomes, the same increase in NCD's including ICD. Just look at thailands shift from local markets to centralised super markets. Income inequality and nutritional availability caused by globalisation play the largest sum of it. Other examples: look at how a shift to high processed food diets in Okinawa have changed obesity rates dramatically in such a short time period. Less reliance on the Okinawan sweet potato and consumption of fatty fast foods have lowered their health outcomes.


>>15062308
>Goal was to get you to stop being retarded about caloric intake lmao
There's more than one person replying to you, all I posted was graphs and facts about HFCS consumption as I knew your claim about Japan being the second highest consumer of HFCS was wrong. I'm curious as well to see what percentage of HFCS in Japan are consumed on American military bases and by the families of soldiers living abroad.
>>15062308
>Use your brain numbnuts
Even though that's not directed at me, that's no way to argue. Simply use facts, logic and a neutral tone

[Anonymous No.15062332]

>>15058338
schizo kino

[Anonymous No.15062341]

>>15062325
>It wasn't me!
Why are u mad then LOL

[Anonymous No.15062351]

>>15058338
The fuck retard?

[Anonymous No.15062356]

>>15061850
This looks terrible you dicklet

[Anonymous No.15062463]

>>15058338
nice pasta

[Anonymous No.15063453]

>>15062341
so an australian thread that actually discussed food gets 404'd but this shit stays up?

[Anonymous No.15063593]

>>15049750
true

[Anonymous No.15063607]

>>15049887
what? when I was in Japan I drink soda more often than I ever did in Ireland. a large amount of restaurants had soda dispensers with many different flavours of coke, fanta etc that Ide never even heard of before

[Anonymous No.15063628]

>>15050386
fatty burger cope

[Anonymous No.15063633]

>>15049702
No, it has nothing to do with food. When we nuked Japan, all the weak and sick ones died instantly. Anyone that wasn't super healthy ended up dying from the radiation. It's nuclear eugenics.

[Anonymous No.15063638]

>>15051096
when I was in Japan all the portions were tiny. I got drunk every day for a month and got little sleep and still didnt gain weight

[Anonymous No.15064174]

>>15049702
They eat less
Less calories
Like using less their lifes

[Anonymous No.15064264]

>>15049927
less than you might believe
their serving sizes for alcohol are tiny compared to the west while charging more
You often see the 555 advertised as something special for a lot of money, while in the west thats the standard bottle size
here i cant even order a 0.2l beer, well maybe if you visit cologne

[Anonymous No.15064284]

>retarded amounts of salt in everything
>healthy

[Anonymous No.15064293]

>>15050460
>and most have it daily for breakfast
Lmao no. It's the equivalent of Swedish surströmming. It's something that no one actually eats but they trick foreigners into trying it out.

[Anonymous No.15064315]

>>15064284
How are they "retarded amounts" or unhealthy when they have the highest life expectancy?

[Anonymous No.15064321]

I believe that the Japanese tend to be healthier than Americans because (a) Japanese have a habit of eating smaller portions for each meal, and (b) Japanese people tend to harass their acquaintances that gain weight.

Although the Japanese claim a greater longevity than most other nations, I strongly suspect this is an illusion caused by a contempt for the elderly that almost all Japanese people would deny. There are countless public cases where solitary old people are thought to have lived to a great age, until someone finally checks in on them and finds that they died decades before. When you get old in Japan, your relatives abandon you.

[Anonymous No.15064334]

>>15064315
It's almost like diet isn't the sole decisive element in determining one's health

[Anonymous No.15064343]

>>15053877
Southern RESTAURANTS, yes. But there's less and less of those around by the day. It's a fucking tragedy let me tell you. Nowhere else can you get such a hearty meal for a respectable price, take home the leftovers and have dinner the next day.

[Anonymous No.15064360]

>>15064334
Right, too bad nobody claimed that and you still haven't explained how the amount of salt they eat is unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.15064365]

>>15064321
coping amerifat

[Anonymous No.15064471]

>>15049789
How does the tax handle people with PCOS?

[Anonymous No.15064654]

>>15064471
"It would be a progressive tax: the fatter the taxpayer, the higher the tax. The top of the “normal” range for BMI is 24. A BMI above 25 would pay a small surtax, say 5 percent, BMI 30s would pay 10 percent, etc. The brilliance of Art Laffer’s flat income tax notwithstanding, a flat fat tax simply would not work, since it would not encourage weight-control once the taxpayer’s BMI was well above the taxation threshold.

To deter falsified BMIs, IRS doctors could offer a second opinion. BMI audits might be required at three or six-month intervals to get an accurate reading of each taxpayer’s average BMI during the year, and to prevent unhealthy fasting during the tax season. And given the latest research showing obesity spreads socially, the IRS could even demand friendship data (cross-checked) to ensure individual friendship networks don’t exceed a particular fat-friends quota"

I don't think they care anon.

[Anonymous No.15064870]

>>15051109
What's high protein in that picture?

[Anonymous No.15064876]

>>15051111
Jesus fuck anon, I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.15064916]

>>15050374
This anon knows what's up.

[Anonymous No.15065102]

>>15051111
diss it all you want but the potato corn and mayo pizza from dominos japan is my favorite fast food pizza.

[Anonymous No.15065244]

>Japan
>eating veggies
wonder how this meme started
>https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita

[Anonymous No.15065308]

>>15065244
>usa does still eat their vegetables
>still fatasses

[Anonymous No.15065334]

>>15049702
Lots of vegetables and fish. Low in calories (though it is high in salt; check out stomach cancer rates of Japan and South Korea vs rest of world)

[Anonymous No.15065455]

>>15065308
USA vegetables have to be coated in lard, grease, butter or fried in oil

[Anonymous No.15065497]

>>15065244
Haha ooops Norway you fakking mongs

[Anonymous No.15065509]

>>15065308
Unfortunately our staple vegetables are pure carbs. Corn and potatoes are stuff best served heavily salted, and we have a huge dairy industry so enjoy your butter and cream.

People still work long hours, but it's not at jobs that kill those calories or sweat out that sodium. The best thing for this nation would to be to create jobs that require physical hardship: manufacturing, forestry, processing, laying roads, welding, mining, etc etc. A wartime economy. Possibly taking new territory.

[Anonymous No.15065527]

>>15050460
>and most have it daily for breakfast
Maybe it you're over 70. It's considered an "old-person food".

[Anonymous No.15065726]

>>15050460
>most have it daily for breakfast
Not true at all.

Natto is more eaten in Kansai than Kanto, for one thing.

[Anonymous No.15065727]

>>15064343
>It's a fucking tragedy let me tell you. Nowhere else can you get such a hearty meal for a respectable price,
That picture I posted was from a restuarant in bumfuck Arkansas, in a complete shithole. The only good thing these towns full of uneducated hicks have going for them are the occasional diners with large portions.
My god people from Arkansas are so fucking dumb, it was actually eye-opening. People in Arkansas have no idea about "ethnic food". I made my grandma's neighbor some "hot" avocado salsa and he said it was incredibly flavorful. Also this guy didn't know what were he just called it "guac" and he said he didn't like cumin because it was "ethnic"

As you can guess, this guy is morbidly obese and did not go to college.

[Anonymous No.15065738]

>>15051096
>>convenience stores chock full of junk food every 100m no matter where you go
I never understdoon the bosession of conveniecne store food.

Yeah, it's better than 7-11 in america, but I still much rather get it from a grocery store or restaurant

[Anonymous No.15065744]

>>15064654
sounds incredibly authoritarian. a fat tax would be unimplementable in the USA.

[Anonymous No.15065910]

>>15064654
>>15065744
Simpler idea: Tax returns must be hand-delivered to a 10-story building with no elevator. Tax is determined by which floor you drop it off at. Severe penalties for having someone else deliver it for you. Exempt amputees and the disabled for logistical expediency.

[Anonymous No.15066824]

>>15065910
>the disabled
Severely obese people are considered disabled. This is a dumb idea.

[Anonymous No.15067496]

>>15049750
>Flip Flappers
I love you

[Anonymous No.15067621]

Lots of fish, fermented foods. But that's the traditional stuff and is completely offset by the processed foods, smoking, sitting, and salt.

[Anonymous No.15067743]

>>15067621
>salt BAD
nice soccer mom meme

[Anonymous No.15067811]

>>15067743
I know the hypertension is getting to you, but try to understand you can have too much of a good thing. When combined with those other things, excessive salt intake can be a problem.

[Anonymous No.15067816]

>>15067811
>muh salt causes hypertension meme
Lol, you fatties truly love your mom science, don't you?
Also, it's funny how you try to imply that their salt intake is unhealthy when they have the highest life expectancy on Earth.

[Anonymous No.15067846]

>>15067816
>Don't have babies
>They can't die
>Life expectancy goes up
Galaxy brain move. Hypertension is a recognized problem in Japan. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.119.314991#:~:text=In%20Japan%2C%2043%20million%20people,next%20to%20smoking)%20in%20Japan.

[Anonymous No.15067888]

>>15049853
Sounds like wife material

[Anonymous No.15067908]

>>15067846
You're dumb, you clearly don't know how life expectancy is calculated.
Also, you've yet to prove that salt causes hypertension.

[Anonymous No.15068123]

[Anonymous No.15068218]

>>15060936
Their diets aren't bad but their social lives are absolutely pathetic or overwhelmingly demanding and driven by bad traditions. Sometimes it's shocking to me how often the Japanese treat each other like machines.

[Anonymous No.15068250]

>>15065244
Where are all these places in the United States that serving all these vegetables? Or are we confusing fries/chips and lettuce and tomatoes between burgers/sandwiches as a whole serving of veggies again?

[Anonymous No.15068290]

>>15065244
ruh roh, Japan's vegetable intake is only marginally lower than the US

[Anonymous No.15068386]

>>15068218
>Sometimes it's shocking to me how often the Japanese treat each other like machines.
honestly curious: how do japs treat each other like machines?

[Anonymous No.15068400]

>>15049702
It's a bit hit and miss, really. Been living in Japan for a year and a half and a lot of the shit here is ultra unhealthy in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.15068417]

>>15068400
>a lot of the shit here is ultra unhealthy
How so?

[Anonymous No.15068429]

>>15049712
>Vice
You news to go back.

[Anonymous No.15068433]

>>15068417
Lots of refined carbs (White rice and white bread are very common, whole grains are rare).
Lots of deep fried foods, lots of sugary sauces. Even the mayo has sugar in it.
There are still plenty of healthy options of course, and I tend to go that route.
I noticed that my waist is slimmer than most Japanese men my age, and I'm not a skeleton or anything.

[Anonymous No.15068435]

>>15049712
>Vice
You need go go back.

[Anonymous No.15068440]

>>15068386
Extremely long working hours and high pressure, I've also heard unpaid overtime is common or at least not unheard of.

[Anonymous No.15068873]

>>15068123
based iwatani 達人スリム owner

[Anonymous No.15069300]

>>15050369
that's literally a Chinese boat

[Anonymous No.15069466]

>>15068435
I assume you're an ESL who's only come across Vice from shitty /pol/ threads and doesn't know what else they do

[Anonymous No.15069473]

>>15049702
cus insipid

[Anonymous No.15069483]

>>15069466
Vice has been utter rubbish for most of this decade. The last time they were any good was when the whole Donbass Ukraine nonsense was kicking off.

[Anonymous No.15069500]

>>15069466
It's the same liberal garbage either way.

[Anonymous No.15070176]

>>15069483
>Vice has been utter rubbish for most of this decade.
You are such a bumbling dipshit. Vice became amous this very decade for their god-tier docs inside Pakistani Taliban and North Korea, on top of their cartel docs. Just kill yourself contrarian faggot.

[Anonymous No.15070180]

>>15068123
is this supposed to be healthy?

[Anonymous No.15070214]

>>15070176
Their doc on North Korea was BEFORE the Ukrainian nonsense started up.

[Anonymous No.15070225]

>>15070214
Your original claim:
>Vice has been utter rubbish for most of this decade.
Goalposts: Shifted
Baby: Mad and gonna shit his pants

[Anonymous No.15070315]

Japan literally has the lowest infant mortality rate in the entire world. That's going to skew longevity data if that's what you're basing your assertion about health on. Would be interesting to compare some data sets with Korea if we're trying to isolate dietary factors.

[Anonymous No.15071629]

>>15049702
Fish and vegetables. Two longest lived populations on Earth are in the Mediterranean and Sea of Japan, it's fish and vegetables. Probably gives the oils and vitamins we're lacking or some shit.

[Anonymous No.15071667]

>>15071629
I remember all that mystical olive oil clickbait mumbo jumbo back in the 2000s. A lot of speculation now that the socialized medicine in Europe just leads to better outcomes than a place like the US. I think Japan pays something like 75% of an individuals cost.

[Anonymous No.15071692]

>>15071667
this is at the core of it, if I was able to get in to see a doctor and not having to worry about losing 1/2 a months pay for the diagnostic testing to make sure my small issue isn't life threatening I'm sure I'd live longer

[Anonymous No.15071715]

for me, its the corny pizza

[Anonymous No.15071722]

>>15071715

> now with extra mayonnaise uwu

[Anonymous No.15071957]

>>15071667
Fuck off, antioxindants found in fish oils and olive oils are literally the core of it, as well as caloric restriction.

[Anonymous No.15072471]

>>15049702
It's not, Japs have insane stomach cancer rates.