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15017993 No.15017993 [Reply] [Original]

Are the any foods you don't eat due to animal cruelty reasons?
For me its:
Veal
Fois gras
Chocolate milk
Chicken 'poppers'
Turtle

>> No.15018007

No. Animals are beasts of burden put on Earth to service us. As so it says in the good book.

>> No.15018008

>Chocolate milk
Care to explain that one, chief?

>> No.15018015 [DELETED] 

>>15018008
i aint drinking nigger cow milk

>> No.15018016

If you won't eat veal will you still eat cheese made with rennet?

>> No.15018021

>>15018007
Based but I wouldn’t call them burdens, animals are necessary.

>> No.15018025

>>15017993
I don't eat conventional poultry anymore. I can raise it myself and it tastes better than the concentration camp stuff.

Also why are chicken poppers cruel?

>> No.15018031
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>>15017993
I won't eat halal certified meat. The Muslim slaughterhouses lie to the authorities, and don't stun the animals before cutting their throats. If you are non Muslim, you will be forbidden from entering their slaughterhouses.

Boycott all halal certified meat.

>> No.15018037

>>15017993
I only don't eat foods because I don't like them.

>> No.15018041

>>15017993
I don't give a fuck about animal cruelty, except palm oil destroying Orangutan's habitats.
Otherwise I don't eat chocolate, avocados, or cashews due to the human slavery aspect.

>> No.15018048
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15018048

if you kill the animal yourself, you can see to it that they don't suffer

>> No.15018101

no animal that is killed for food suffers. to suffer an animal has to be alive and remember said suffering, once dead their brain no longer works and cannot remember suffering, and so did not suffer.

>> No.15018170

>>15018031
This

>> No.15018225

>>15018031
When we finish conquering your land kuffir you will be whipped for speech like that.

>> No.15018236
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>>15018041
Based fren to pongo

>> No.15018248

>>15018021
they are beasts that bear burdens, burdens of service... I think.

>> No.15018252

>>15018248
Well that's one way to refer to OPs mother

>> No.15018279

>>15017993
None. There's no such thing as ethical consumption.

>> No.15018304

>>15017993
i think veal can be perfectly humane if you use small local places and can see the facility. i found a tiny local dairy and saw their male calves and it was totally unremarkable, just calves in a yard.

>> No.15018497

Cheap eggs. I only eat free range organic brown eggs now just due to the fact that you can tell that the chickens are taken much better care of. I know they're still not treated perfectly, but I feel it's better than nothing. I also don't eat chicken meat sold in the stores either; all the meat is massive, has weird textures, and is clearly the result from growth hormones and horrid living conditions.I'd love to buy organic milk too but that shit is too expensive.

>> No.15018506

>>15018031
Same here

>> No.15018513
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>>15018041
>>15018236
Based orang bros

>> No.15018520

>>15017993
I don't know if it's "cruelty" in the same sense as foie gras, but lamb and veal and any other baby animal I don't eat.

It just seems fucked up that we spent like hundreds if not thousands of years coming up with these folk tales about a giant ogre or a ugly witch eating babies, because eating babies is one of the most evil things one could do I guess, but yum yum let's all eat lamb chops with gordon ramsay

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>>15018170
reddit fag

>> No.15018530

>>15017993
Alright, I'll bite, why not chocolate milk specifically?

>> No.15018758

>>15018225
I live in a Muslim country. You dumb fucks couldn't conquer shit even with the best weaponry on Earth.
Honestly have to be the stupidest people.

>> No.15018777

>>15018007
>God gives you dominion over animals
>Oh I know, I'll kill them and eat them
do Christfags really

>> No.15018937

>>15018777
Cain killed Abel because God favored Abel's animal sacrifice over Cain's plant offering.

>> No.15018940

>>15018048
Fucking chink scum.

>> No.15018944

>>15018937
>Cain valued life more until God spurned him for it, and so he stopped valuing it
Deep

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>>15018015
3edgy5me

>> No.15018972

>>15018937
>God didn't warn his most devout and beloved follower that he was going to get murdered, nor did he protect him from murder
huh

>> No.15018985

>>15017993
I dont like multimeat pizzas. A buncha animals died and you can barely taste them apart

>> No.15019092

I'm a hardline abolitionist vegan. I dont eat any animal products at all. I dont own pets, wear clothing that comes from animals, or buy products tested on animals.

>> No.15019121

>>15018048
GOD NO Not squid frens NO! I'M Sobbing for my poor Squiddos. How is this ok Japanese are evil imo (not all).

>> No.15019133

>>15018777
No, I don't think they do probably only told to children so they would stop freaking out over the dead thing they're going to eat or doubt anyone ever asks were there chicken tendies came from though

>> No.15019136

>>15018777
No where prior to Adam and Eve's fall is the mention of the consumption of meat anywhere. Only after they fall from grace is the consumption of meat mentioned.

>> No.15019137

>>15018940
Pure evil, sadist Jap EATING CHILDREN!

>> No.15019141

>>15018985
>>multimeat pizza.
Prossed meat more filler than meat basicly not meat anymore.

>> No.15019153

>>15018530
You think stuffing your cows with cocoa beans is good for them?

>> No.15019195

I don't really give a shit about it to be honest. Unless they are sadistically torturing the animals. That's just the way it is, animals die and we eat the. Humans die and they eat us. Such is life.

>> No.15019201

Veal is basically a biproduct of farming dairy cows. It's not as though they are tortured. But as someone who rears beef calves, the idea of putting those simple minded little things into the meat works is a bit rough. I just see their potential. It will be the first time they have been on a truck, first time on a steel floor. Then they're just bolted in the head while they sniff around trying to figure out where the fuck they are and what they are standing on. Basically, no one wants them. Tbh I will eat anything, but if I see someone being very cruel to an animal I'll smack them in the jaw.

>> No.15019212

>>15019136
There are people who unironically believe the lions on the ark were fed hay

>> No.15019254

>>15018520
Lamb is really not a baby though. Have you ever seen a grown lamb? Why would the farmer take it when it is the size of a cat, when he can raise it for a year and it weighs 50kg, and is about to reproduce itself making a flock expanding by maybe 140% every single year and no control of the breeding. A lamb heading to the works could and would knock a smaller man flat on his back

>> No.15019260

>>15018972
god was underpowered in the old testament

>> No.15019261

>>15019260
Apart from the bit where his voice spawned the universe

>> No.15019263

>>15019092
But your anti depressants, anti psychotics, and tranny pills are tested on animals

>> No.15019266

>>15019136
If eve ate the snake instead of the apple there wouldnt have been a fall from grace

>> No.15019272

>>15019266
Adam should have roast that thing up on a stick

>> No.15019273

>>15017993
>Fois gras
I never had this - let alone knew how to pronounce it - before it killed Tony Soprano. Now I eat it constantly to honor his memory

>> No.15019282

>>15017993
Animals, dairy. Aka being a vegan.

I eat honey though because the honey harvesting process doesn't really harm bees.

>> No.15019290

>>15018972
it's a parable

>> No.15019297

Do vegans swallow cum?

>> No.15019310

>>15019282
Well its more that you dont care about the slave labor that kills 50 billion of them a year for california almond production so why care about their honey. After all, they are just arthropods. And crop farmers kill thise cocksuckers by the hundreds of trillions so who gives a shit? Its not like the world needs bugs anyways

>> No.15019311

>>15019261
still took him 6 days

>> No.15019313
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>>15019282
Every moment of your life is an apocalypse for other living things.

>> No.15019323

>>15019282
And what if the hives are run on the side by a dairy farmer, and he sticks them on his neighbors big place who runs sheep and beef and has a load of forest?

Cities are a feedlot

>> No.15019341

>>15018048
This is my thing, eating stuff that was killed 5 seconds ago or not killed at all. I tried sannakji in Korea and the tentacles don't die for 20 or 30 minutes and they stick to your face and plate. It also adds nothing to the taste or enjoyability of the food, just inconvenience and guilt

>> No.15019349

>>15017993
If you're going to object to veal you might as well object to all dairy. Cow's have to get pregnant to produce milk and half the time the offspring is male. Only a few are needed for stud, the rest will be veal or killed at birth.

>> No.15019359

>>15019349
Lesser cows will be bred to a beef bull and calves sold to be reared. Top ones with dairy, as many new ones as they need to expand or improve the herd. Heiffers bred for the first time too, are usually bred to a small bull and the calves not kept.

>> No.15019363

>>15017993
>Fois gras
Just that.

>> No.15019389

>>15017993
I stopped eating buffalo mozzarella. The problem with it is that buffalo are really only raised for their milk in Italy, there's no demand for their meat. This means that all male calves are essentially economically worthless and many farmers just let them starve to death or drown them.

>> No.15019652 [DELETED] 

yeah fuck niggers

>> No.15019670

>foie gras
>cruel
nigger the geese freak the fuck out and run over to have that tube stuck down their stupid necks, they absolutely love that shit

>> No.15019675

What are they doing with the cow on the right pic? :(

>> No.15019688

>>15017993
Fois Gras and any juvenile animal (veal, lamb, etc.)

>> No.15019691

>>15019675
They have to spin it to make milkshakes. In a big farm they might spin thousands twice a day

>> No.15019693

>>15018031
I talked to the nephew of a halal butcher and it's true.

>> No.15019723

>>15019691
I talked to the nephew of a cow and it's true

>> No.15019762

>>15019691
Why they don't take the milkies out of the cow first and then spin the milkies so the cow wont get dizzy :(

>> No.15019784

>>15019762
Mechanical milk extraction is more efficient

>> No.15019899
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No, knowing how much suffering when in into my food makes me enjoy it more. Same reason coke should stay illegal. I like blood on the things I consume.

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>>15017993
I gave up scallops for over 20 years because they used to be fished by dragging the ocean floor and destroying the habitat for years.

Someone on /ck/ told me last year that the fuckers started farming the damn things right about the time I quit eating them, so I wasted 20+ years of my life not eating scallops when I could have done so without guilt. Oh well.

>> No.15020054

>>15019297
There used to be a group called "Vegetarians for Oral Sex" whose motto was "the only meat fit to eat!"

>>15019092
Do you give them pleasure, though?

>>15018520
>yum yum let's all eat lamb chops with gordon ramsay
You *know* he fucked that sheep before killing it.

>>15019266
Is this a metaphor for why blowjobs are good?

>> No.15020086

>>15019260
>>15019261
And yet he didn't have the power to save all of the kikes, so he only saved the ones who drank water by cupping their hands into it.

> Then the LORD said to Gideon, “There are still too many people. Take them down to the water, and I will sift them for you there. If I say to you, ‘This one shall go with you,’ he shall go. But if I say, ‘This one shall not go with you,’ he shall not go.” So Gideon brought the people down to the water, and the LORD said to him, “Separate those who lap the water with their tongues like a dog from those who kneel to drink.” And the number of those who lapped the water with their hands to their mouths was three hundred men; all the others knelt to drink. Then the LORD said to Gideon, “With the three hundred men who lapped the water I will save you and deliver the Midianites into your hand. But all the others are to go home.”

Seems pretty fucking arbitrary, like ADS firing any employee who didn't wear a tie to the office on some random day.

>> No.15020125

>>15020027
what a fake and gay photo

>> No.15020184

>>15018021
That isn't what beast of burden means...

>> No.15020197

>>15017993
>Veal
>Fois gras
I was never going to eat these anyways but yeah, that's a major turn off.
>Chocolate milk
Hmm? Explain. Isn't it just milk with chocolate added? What makes it worse for the animal then normal milk?

>> No.15020205

>>15020197
>Isn't it just milk with chocolate added? What makes it worse for the animal then normal milk?
the cows are force feed chocolate three times a day

>> No.15020209

>>15020205
Lucky bastards

>> No.15020244

>>15018236
Now that's a rare pepe.

>> No.15020376

>>15018008
They force feed cows cocoa beans, it's so harmful to them that you can't even eat their meat afterwards.

>> No.15020411

I legit could not give a single fuck about animal cruelty. You won't see me torching a dog in the street like a chinaman, but I really could not care less about animals who are raised for our consumption.

>> No.15020425

>>15019136

Adam and Eve were given like 3 pages in the bible. God basically said to them "look at this shit, all this shit is yours to do as you please, except for that one tree." They could've fucked the animals while eating them for all we know.

>> No.15020426

>>15017993
>Veal
I don't get the hate for it. Its delicious, and the cow is going to die anyways. What's the difference between killing the baby cow or waiting until its just reached adult hood and is ready to get a job and a husband before killing it at peak happiness.

>> No.15020435

>>15019260
Wtf you talking about? The entire book of Genesis is basically about how OP God was and how he decided to chill the fuck out and let humans do their own thing.

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>>15018497

>> No.15020453

>>15017993
I don't touch palm oil, because I like orangutans. I won't eat shark or whale (whale is fucking delicious unfortunately) because not viable/cruel. Saffron apparently has a poor reputation for commercial viability, as does some drupes and nuts, so unless I can figure out if it's fairish trade, I won't buy them; same with dates/figs.

I will gladly consume veal, fois gras, turtle, caviar, because they're delicious and I like them and I have no clear moral compass.

>> No.15020458

>>15020435
texas sharpshooter fallacy


the rest of the old testament reads like god is an angry racist drunk texter telling his people to kill everyone or he will kill them.

>> No.15020462

veal
fois gras
octopus

>> No.15020575

>>15018048
do east asians really enjoy eating live animals? this is something a shark would eat.

when western people eat live animals, you can clearly tell they are deranged. when asians do it, is it normal?

>> No.15020587

>>15020575
Its not normal, its just a novelty food. Most normal people find it gross, but some people might do it just for the experience.
Its not like most western people don't laugh when they talk about beheading a chicken when they're about to eat it.

>> No.15020599

>>15020587
>Its not like most western people don't laugh when they talk about beheading a chicken when they're about to eat it.
This literally doesn't happen. Western people are so divorced from the killing process. They don't even like seeing bones or a face on the animal they eat.

>> No.15020604

>>15020587
Sure thing, chang

>> No.15020606

>>15020599

This is only true in the city/suburbs

>> No.15020612

>>15020606
in rural areas, people kill and eat deer. But they don't eat its beating heart like an east asian would.

>> No.15020616

>>15020599
>I've literally never talked to someone from outside LA

>> No.15020631

>>15020616
people in flyover states don't eat live frogs and fish.

>> No.15020632

>>15020376
very funny man haha im laffin

>> No.15020655

>>15018940
your president lost sweetie

>> No.15020761

>>15020612
name a dish where a still beating hard is eating

>> No.15020788

>>15020444
he's right though
mass produced food has a fraction of the nutrients of organic small farm produced food.

>> No.15020826

>>15020761
japs eat the beating heart of frogs. look it up. frog sashimi

>> No.15020850

>>15020631
na, but its common practice to boil lobsters and crabs alive right before eating them

but i guess that doesn't count?

>> No.15020860

>>15020850
they say it kills them basically instantly, but I still never do it.
i just stab them in brain, or whatever you're cutting when you cut through their head.

>> No.15020865

>>15020860
>t-that doesn't count

>> No.15020873

>>15020865
>eating an animal while it's still alive is the same as instantly killing it before cooking.
so your logic is that you just can't ever eat animals because there's no way to ethically kill them that is any different than eating the animal alive.

>> No.15020893

>>15020873
>so your logic is that you just can't ever eat animals because there's no way to ethically kill them that is any different than eating the animal alive.
No, my logic is who gives a fuck?
Your logic is that its okay to boil animals alive if it happens in another room, but if you cute their head off at the table its literally satanism.

>> No.15020899

>>15020893
>boil animals alive
You can't read very well, can you? He's literally saying he always kills them first. Follow along, faggot

>> No.15020905

>>15020893
i have no idea what you're talking about, I think you've conflated me with another poster.
and cutting the heads off before eating would be ok, because then it's no longer alive, I was only talking about the practice of eating animals alive.

>> No.15020933

>>15020899
"He" does, but every normal cook just boils them alive.

>> No.15020938

>>15020933
Good thing he's not approving of that practice???
Are you a butthurt chink or something?

>> No.15020949

>>15020938
>only chinks every do something so heartless!
>well how about X?
>t-that doesn't count because I personally don't do it!
yeah, cringe desu senpai.

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>>15018031
shut up kaffir
>>15018758
pic related was made desert muslims who barely wiped their own asses

>> No.15021156

>>15017993
i try to stay away from factory farmed meat in general

>> No.15021163
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15021163

im vegan

>> No.15021181

>>15018041
ya believe all the propaganda, howabout going to sarawak and checking it out on your own dumbass, a 3rd world country cant cut trees and plant crops while your ancestors killed of the dodo and now you act high and mighty.

>> No.15021187

>>15019341
ya i prefer my meat stored in freezer for 2 weeks before i eat it too

>> No.15021201

>>15018972
well he did tell people not to fornicate outside wedlock but here you are

>> No.15021439

>>15017993
Veal
Any type of seafood that comes from Asian sources due to slave labor use and horrible over exploitation
Foie gras
Commercially farmed fish because it's parasite infested and full of toxins
I avoid as many industrially farmed animals as possible and try to source from locals (Mennonites are fucking awesome for this)
I refuse to eat anything with any type of palm oil in it

>> No.15021460

>>15018101
same thing applies to every human killed

>> No.15021462

>>15018497
You can see the difference and taste it as well with the eggs. Cheap ones have pale yellow yolks with runny snot for whites. True free range yolks are dark orange due to variety in feed and being allowed to eat bugs. Whites are much firmer and substantial in my experience. Flavor is much better.

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15021467

>>15021163
>veganism
>good physical and mental health
Pick one

>> No.15021584

>>15018031
The animal has a shitlife, barelly sees the sun. Gets fed hormones.
>STUN THE ANIMALS BEFORE KILLING THEM NOOOO OH NOT MY MOOERINOS MY SHEEPERIDOOS MY CHICKOOKOOS

If u against animal cruelity at least go all the way retard

>> No.15021624

>>15018777
That probably explains why they think it's fine that an all-powerful being would eternally torture his helpless children as "punishment"

>> No.15021706

>>15017993
I found myself buying locally produced meat much more often. Its more expensive but the standards of animal welfare are high here compared to the other EU countries that sell here.
It genuinly tastes better, and Ive found myself trying harder to honor the animal by making the absolute best of the food I get from it. I even freeze leftover bones from ribs and such to make stock.

>> No.15022505

>>15021068
>all that empty worthless desert
nice one Ahmed!

>> No.15022513

>>15021624
gotta be 18 to use this website

>> No.15022539

>>15017993
I don't have anything against killing something for food but I do against the absolute shit treatment of domesticated farm animals. I get my meat from hunting it myself (which is beneficial to the forests) and dairy/eggs from my grandma and a local farmer who doesn't disrespect his animals or kill them when they can no longer provide milk.

>> No.15022545

>>15020575
No, they don't. That woman was heavily criticized by Koreans for her cruelty.

>> No.15022552

>>15020826
>japanese people
you act like its a common occurrence, retard. it sure as fuck is not.

>> No.15022595

>>15018031
came here to say no, but actually this
I love animals, but I also just happen to think it's immoral not to eat them
but I don't want them to feel pain if it can be helped

>> No.15022634

>>15018031
I boycott all halal and kosher shit just because I hate muslims and jews.

>> No.15022804

>>15020575
Japanese do. It's called 'dancing seafood' and it's horrific, but it's considered a delicacy cause getting it that fresh is expensive. A hotel I stayed at had some lobster come in real fresh. They cracked the things spine and filleted it, still alive, into a bowl it couldn't climb out of. I thought at first 'oh it's like that thing where it's dead but the muscles contract or whatever's until I realized it was literally trying to climb out of the fucking bowl. I don't even think lobster are worthy of saving or anything but fuck man Im not gonna eat something while it's alive. At least have the decency to fucking kill it.

>> No.15023845

>>15019201
Most wholesome down to earth, experienced answer in this thread.

>> No.15023893

>>15020444
You've never gotten one of those huge chicken breasts with the nasty dry wooden texture? They've gotten more common over the years in my market. Huge with a woody texture.

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>>15017993

>> No.15023908

>>15020453
Turtles are being poached at insane rates to send to China. Sucks. All American native turtles being poached in huge numbers, especially from southern states, shipped to China. Same with certain rare native plants. I once spotted some clearly Chinese people harvesting rare ocean cliff plants, collecting them in milk crates, dozens of crates. I called the local cops and they were there quick. Apparently it's uncommon for them to get tips but they actually give a fuck. That was in northern California, I was on vacation. I don't know if local small town cops in Georgia care enough about turtles to stop dirty turtle poachers.

>> No.15023913

the fois gras cruelty is a meme
the ducks eagerly run right up to the farmer to get food hosed down them
they don't live long enough for the fatty liver to be a problem

>> No.15023921

>>15021181
Wow it's amazing how with a modem education and prospective one can decry the actions of their ancestors and dislike seeing that kind of reckless exploitation in the modern day.

>> No.15023927

>>15021584
No where except on 4chan do you see those silly names for animals any more. You're parodying something that doesn't exist. It's so absurd that it is kinda funny, in a "laugh at that retard" kinda way.

>> No.15023941

>>15017993
Animals and animal products. Was surprisingly easy to cut them out with a few transition months.