/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14994928]

Happy World Vegan Day /ck/

I'm going to order takeout from my favorite vegan restaurant to support local vegan restaurants, how about you?

[Anonymous No.14994932]

>>14994928
Aw, it's vegan day? I've already eaten 3 animal types, just in my morning sammich

[Anonymous No.14994939]

>>14994932
There's always tomorrow

[Anonymous No.14994940]

>>14994928
Veganism is a symptom of mental illness

[Anonymous No.14994947]

>>14994939
I'll try again next year.

[Anonymous No.14994949]

>>14994928
Reminder thar veganism is a sign of low self-esteem and, possibly, of sociopathy

If you think a chicken has the same right to freedom and happiness as you, you need mental help.

It's never too late.

[Anonymous No.14994973]

>>14994949
>>14994940
Why do antivegans have to project their insecurities like this? Is it because altruism triggers them or pure autism?

[Anonymous No.14994992]

>>14994928
I haven't been to a vegan restaurant in years. Last time I was on a date and just got a bare bones salad. The date sucked.

Another time well over a decade ago I went to a vegan diner and actually tried to eat their food. I have eaten at some real pig troughs, but this place really took the cake. I had paid a premium price for premium indigestion.

But now I won't eat a strangers cooking anymore. It's been almost a year since I have even ordered delivery or takeout. Even longer since I've been in a sitdown. And I hope this goes without saying, no fast food either.


Of course, it's really easy to live off of and be satisfied solely off your own cooking when you don't need meat substitutes.

Tonight I'm having liver, onions, and maybe some radishes or potato. Tomorrow roast duck on a bed of root vegetables and buttercup squash.

Food sovereignty>veganism.

[Anonymous No.14995212]

>>14994928
enjoy your malnutrition

[Anonymous No.14995231]

>>14994928
I'm eating vegan beef. from a vegan cow.

[Anonymous No.14995243]

>>14995231
>vegan cow
blocks your path

[Anonymous No.14995254]

>>14995243
doesn't bother me.

[Anonymous No.14995361]

>>14994973
It's no projection, just the statistics.
https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/meat-eaters-tend-to-have-better-psychological-health-than-vegetarians-56698

[Anonymous No.14995363]

>>14994928
I have 2 New York Strip steaks I’ll be cooking medium rare

[Anonymous No.14995374]

>>14994973
Moral veganism is retarded. The only reason one should be vegan is for their health.

[Anonymous No.14995390]

>>14994928
I wouldn't mind veganism if it wasn't wrong at every level. It's both unhealthy and dangerous for the environment.

[Anonymous No.14995391]

>>14995374
Anyone that does it for health reasons is chill. I think we can all agree on that.

[Anonymous No.14995404]

this thread reeks of chud

[Anonymous No.14995409]

>>14995374
Except for the fact that veganisim tends to degrade health quickly over time? A lot of people will start veganism for health reasons, then try to cling to morals once their health fades. it probably has a lot to do with >>14995361 's link.


It's a slippery slope.

[Anonymous No.14995434]

>>14995409
The point is that being vegan because you feel sad for animals is dumb.

[Anonymous No.14995444]

>>14995404
Leave and take your shitty buzzwords with you.

[Anonymous No.14995468]

>>14994973
hes right, every vegan you see is antisocial

[Anonymous No.14995489]

>>14995404
Open your bedroom windows.

[Anonymous No.14995544]

Veganism is a culture-bound disorder for people with schizoid tendencies and high anxiety.

[Anonymous No.14995625]

I love animals they are delicious

>>14995544

Veganism is just this decade's version of Hipster they'll eventually grow out of it and latch onto the next popular trend once Veganism has become completely exhausted through capitalism ventures

[Anonymous No.14996044]

>>14994949
>If you think a chicken has the same right to freedom and happiness as you, you need mental help.
i dont think a chicken has the same right to freedom and happiness as i do
i just think if im not a cunt, ill try give it more than none

[Anonymous No.14996056]

>>14995390
if you have a source ill read it

[Anonymous No.14996065]

>>14995361
>Correlation does not imply a causal relation and we present several explanations for our results. For example, individuals struggling with mental illness may alter their diets as a form of self-treatment; vegan and strict vegetarian diets may lead to nutrient deficiencies that increase the risk of mental illness; many individuals with eating disorders use veganism and vegetarianism as a ‘cover’ to hide their illness; and individuals who are extremely sensitive to or focused on the suffering of animals may become both vegetarian and depressed/anxious as a result
personally the last point seems the most likely to me
did you even consider the options apart from nutrient deficiencies?

[Anonymous No.14996137]

>>14994928
I don't have any in my neigborhood but I'm having lentil soup for dinner. I'm putting butter on my bread so it doesn't count as a proper vegan meal, but I wish vegans all the best
>>14994992
I used to get vegan indian food at least once a week, it was great. I don't understand why carnists get so triggered by vegetables

[Anonymous No.14996741]

>>14996137
>roast duck on a bed of root vegetables and buttercup squash.
>triggered by vegetables

Choose one.

[Anonymous No.14996776]

>>14996065
No of course they haven't. They searched on google and found the first thing that looked like it supported their lifestyle and felt triumphant without actually reading the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.14996797]

>>14994928
i just turned vegan today
>>14994940
>>14994932
>>14994949
>>14995231
>>14995390
>>14995409
>>14995468
>>14995625
chud

[Anonymous No.14996929]

>>14994973
>antivegan
It's like saying "anti-creationists," while the rest of the world prefers to call it "pro-science".

[Anonymous No.14996936]

>>14996929
odd comparison
creationists are usually the first to deny the consciousness of animals

[Anonymous No.14997130]

>>14996936
Don't mind the antivegans, they're just spazzing because they know they have the moral lowground.

[Anonymous No.14997452]

>>14997130
You do realize even "herbivores" need animal products to supplement minerals that plants cant provide. I used to think butterflies were maybe 100% herbivorous until I saw like 100 of them swarming on a rotten carcass. And this was on a beautiful sunny day where wildflowers were everywhere just waiting to be pollinated.

But it doesn't surprise me that vegans are bigots who know nothing about nature. You guys are all just terrified of death because you are mentally children. Just as the oligarchy wants it :)

[Anonymous No.14997482]

>>14997452
>You do realize even "herbivores" need animal products to supplement minerals that plants cant provide
No, I don't
Got a source?

[Anonymous No.14997667]

>>14997482
Look at my image. There is your source. Why do you think bambi is eating the bones of a human while being surrounded by green foliage?

If livestock were free range they would do exactly the same, but instead we supplement them with cobalt and other mineral supplements.

These animals are not idiots, they eat what they eat for a reason. Herbivores are specialist animals who can eat things like grass and bark. But even they need animal derived nutrition as well. Just not as much as an omnivore or carnivore.

Humans making the claim that they can be more herbivorous than an herbivore is just ridiculous. You are not above nature, stop trying to solve all your problems with even more industrialization and even bigger pushes away from natural human behavior, that's how we got in this big fucking mess to begin with.

[Anonymous No.14997748]

>>14997667
That doesn't prove to me that herbivores need to eat other animals. It only proves that they can if they want to.
>Humans making the claim that they can be more herbivorous than an herbivore is just ridiculous.
Is veganism won't doesn't cause death, isn't that claim true?

[Anonymous No.14997755]

>>14997748
If veganism doesn't cause death, isn't that claim true?
is what I meant to type.

[Anonymous No.14997831]

>>14997755
That claim is also false.
I don't even know which context you are trying to shape that claim into.
But if you support any large scale industrial agriculture its going to mean death and environmental destruction. There are even animals like the Sumatran tiger going extinct for crop agricultural products like palm oil. An animal deemed as a "pest" is just as sentient as livestock.

Don't get me wrong, animal death is sad. Death is sad. But it's virtually unavoidable. And as a western urban industrialized consumer heavy person, it doesn't matter what diet you follow. It is destructive.

It's a cold, hard reality that you have to face. And the solution to making a less destructive (or even regenerative impact) on our planet is to completely change your lifestyle. And even then death will follow you. Whether it is killing a cow once a year, or killing hundreds, even thousands of small animals to protect your crops, you have to have a healthy relationship with death.

Livestock raised on pasture, especially if you raise livestock for your and your loved ones consumption, will have the least negative impact, and the death will be met with gratitude, instead of just destroying habitat for crop production.

Animals need to eat other animals. Life is not a Disney movie. This is just how things are. Stop trying to shape objective reality to fit your moral agenda.

Food sovereignty>veganism

[Anonymous No.14997894]

Cult
Who the fuck decided that human sperm is vegan but honey isn't?

Will the international vegan board of directors take back my V,card if i eat lollies
With gelatin?

If you want somthing that tastes of meat eat meat not fake vedgi shit made in a lab to resemble meet.

Choke on cock and die you retarded trannys.

[Anonymous No.14997929]

>>14997482
Deer and other ungulates will gnaw shed antlers and bones for calcium, and with consume blood rich antler lining and afterbirth to regain the lost nutrients.

Other species are quite a bit more omnivorous than they appear at first glance. Squirrels and other rodents that are primarily seed eaters will happily chow down on carcasses, even of their own species. I've even seen the aforementioned deer scavenging meat from dead herdmates. It's likely one of the ways CWD is spread. And before you latch onto that being a bad thing, CWD is due to herd overcrowding, due to a lack of predators and lack of hunting. More hunting would fix it, not less.

Like somebody else said above, all food production requires death. Plowing a field kills dozens of rabbits, moles, ground squirrels, and mice per acre. A few months later, harvesting inevitably kills dozens more, along with young deer who like to bed down in crops. Letting animals graze rangeland is probably one of the least environmentally impactful ways to turn solar energy into calories, compared to intensive plant ag.

[Anonymous No.14997957]

>>14994973
>antivegans

I AM A CARNIVORE YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.14997968]

>>14997831
Grow food ---> feed livestock ---> eat livestock


Grow food ---> eat food

There's no way eating livestock is less impactful than just eating the plants in the first place.


Palm oil it's completely unnecessary in everyday diet so that point is a point against capitalism and corruption than anything else

[Anonymous No.14997976]

>>14997968
I really don't mean this to be rude, but have you ever been to a real, working farm or ranch?

[Anonymous No.14998001]

>>14997976
Irrelevant, I don't need to be on a farm to understand thermodynamics and energy conversion losses of food

[Anonymous No.14998010]

>>14997968
Cut down jungle ---> Plant soybeans ---> Harvest ---> Soil depleted ---> Cut down more jungle ---> Repeat
>This is what's happening in a lot of the developing world, it's where a lot of vegan products come from, like various oils, soy beans, etc.

Have rangeland ---> Put cattle on it ---> Cattle get bigger ---> Send cattle to feed lot ---> Feed cattle silage (inedible leaves and stems of corn and beans) ---> Send cattle to slaughter
>This is how people in America have been raising cattle for 150 years, it's the most effective way to turn non-arable land into usable calories

Raise corn in a field ---> Deplete nitrogen ---> Raise beans in that field the next season ---> Replace nitrogen ---> Repeat forever
>This is a nitrogen fixing cycle in action, it's how American farmers farm sustainably year after year

[Anonymous No.14998015]

>>14998001
Well, you clearly don't understand how it works though. You don't understand the processes that go on in agriculture, and so you say ignorant shit.

[Anonymous No.14998021]

>>14998015
I see you have no argument

[Anonymous No.14998034]

>>14998021
Read this >>14998010 That's my argument.

[Anonymous No.14998063]

>>14998010
>>This is a nitrogen fixing cycle in action, it's how American farmers farm sustainably year after year


This was a relatively new practice that we ignored for quite some time until shit hit the fan

>>Have rangeland ---> Put cattle on it ---> Cattle get bigger ---> Send cattle to feed lot ---> Feed cattle silage (inedible leaves and stems of corn and beans) ---> Send cattle to slaughter

Well you fail to include that 80% of all arable land used right now is just for feeding livestock. And that jungles such as the amazon are being stripped to make new land for cattle ranches

[Anonymous No.14998082]

>>14998063
Question: Are jungles being torn down for ranchers, or are they being torn down for timber and then as a result the only thing the land is good for is grazing?

[Anonymous No.14998097]

>>14997968
So you don't eat palm? You make sure to avoid other destructive plantation crops like bananas, cashews, avocado, almonds, and other common tropical fruits, right?
You also make sure to grow your own crops like lettuce greens, tomatoes, potatoes, squash, and other easy to grow garden crops as to not increase the demand for even more land to be tilled and more aquafers to be drained for things you can just grow in your back yard, right?

[Anonymous No.14998099]

>>14998063
It doesn't matter if nitrogen fixing is a relatively recent technique. It makes American farming more sustainable now, which is what matters.

The rangeland that cattle are being grazed on usually isn't suitable for more intensive plant agriculture. You can't grow corn or soybeans or grain on the plains of Wyoming.

And much more slash and burn ag is being done to put out crops than it is to feed cattle.

This is why I was asking if you actually had ever been to a farm or talked to a farmer. You sound like somebody who read a Vice article once and parrot the talking points.

[Anonymous No.14998130]

>>14998082
It is in fact the largest driver for deforestation in the amazon. It very lucrative and the value of the lumber that's sold is paltry in comparison

[Anonymous No.14998154]

>>14998130
Wouldn't just getting local beef (I live in the united states) from a known farmer be the best way to not support the demand for Brazilian beef imports?

Also I read up on United States and Brazilian beef imports and apparently we don't import much, sometimes even outright halting all
beef imports from Brazil.

The countries that consume the most Brazilian beef are Hong Kong and Russia.

[Anonymous No.14998478]

>>14996065
>>14996776
>>14996797
Listen, I'm sorry you're mentally ill, but malnutrition really isn't gonna solve anything.

[Anonymous No.14998481]

>>14994928
fuck off foodlet

[Anonymous No.14998484]

>>14996929
Nah, we generally prefer the term 'normal people'

[Anonymous No.14998499]

>>14996065
Do vegans also get depressed and anxious when they think about a wolf eating an elk? I think you're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.14998517]

>>14998499
schopenhauer did, at least when he was thinking about how many thousands of animals per second were being hunted
was he full of shit?

[Anonymous No.14998537]

>>14994928
Just picked up some vegan snacks. This shit good

[Anonymous No.14998543]

>>14998517
Yes

[Anonymous No.14998549]

>>14998517
Sounds kind of neurotic to me

[Anonymous No.14998567]

this is why i'm vegan. I don't really care that much about animal rights. I'm a humanist. I forfeit the delicious tastes of meats for the benefit of humans.

[Anonymous No.14998574]

>>14998517
When the alternative is the death of most life on earth, yes. That is a ridiculous thing to worry about, and it furthers my point on veganism being a symptom of mental illness.

[Anonymous No.14998587]

>>14998567
Even if the whole world went vegan, the earth would be fucked. I think the 'vegans are gonma save the world' people are very amusing. The last one I debated with irl told me 90% of all greenhouse gasses are produced by farms. Vegans are hilariously delusional.

[Anonymous No.14998594]

[Anonymous No.14998598]

>>14998587
you are correct. the world is fucked regardless. I am however satisfied with trying my best.
that vegan person you debated sounds misinformed. this is why i don't frequent with other vegans, they are delusional and annoying

[Anonymous No.14998628]

>>14998598
Yeah, it wasn't the best first date. He also said he was a wikkan lol. A little too crazy for a relationship. He was so cute though...

[Anonymous No.14998637]

>>14998628
hahahah wow. i know a vegan wikkan too. she's really cool but too out there for a relationship

[Anonymous No.14998657]

>>14994928
Uh, that was today/yesterday ?
Whoops!!!

Well, at least I had a salad...

[Anonymous No.14998793]

>>14998657
i had some jerky in the early am lat night shitposting, a pretzel burger for lunch, and some cheese and stuffed clams for dinner. fuck not eating meat.

[Anonymous No.14999160]

Reading replies, see OP's pic:

>he died but it wasn't real Veganism
>he died but it wasn't real Veganism
>he died but it wasn't real Veganism

"ANTIVEGANS IN MY THREAD!?!" REEEEE

>he died but it wasn't real Veganism
>he died but it wasn't real Veganism
>he died but it wasn't real Veganism


Different name, same shit. Never gets old.

[Anonymous No.14999173]

I will eat thrice as much meat to make up for what the vegans don't

[Anonymous No.14999177]

>>14994932
I ate a vegan out today, does that count?

[Anonymous No.14999215]

Veganism is for prey

[Anonymous No.14999942]

>>14998567
Ok but this is for conventional beef farming. Regenerative farming has been shown to actually have negative emissions. As in, they sequester more emissions than they emit.

[Anonymous No.15000001]

Veganism is a mental illness.

[Anonymous No.15000009]

>>14994928
You know what aside from the bacon grease I cooked most of my food in, and the chicken gizzard that was in my vegetable broth, I was vegetarian yesterday.

I already broke it with beef liver this morning and I'm going to have steak for dinner tonight.

[Anonymous No.15000205]

One time I was eating steak on my own PRIVATE PROPERTY when a libtard vegan burst down my door and threw blood on me. Little did it know I love blood because I am big strong cave man. I took out my cocked and locked 45 ACP and stood my ground like a man, and what did the liberal do? It took a video with its $4000 obamaphone to put on Woke Twitter and tried to cancel me! "Doctor" Anthony Fauci then kneeled with Colin Kapernick to denounce the USA and God while marxist professors allowed my hot, naked, oiled-up white daughter to get BLACKED while they forced me to watch. But instead of prematurely ejaculating like a liberal soy boy would I instead looked at Christ on the Cross and ejaculated towards His naked body instead. Then Joe Rogan and my father figure, the REAL doctor Professor Ben Shapiro stood up and DESTROYED the libtards using FACTS AND LOGIC.

My daughter, still shaking from multiple orgasms, oozed the cream pie out of her holes and was made a virgin again through the power of the Free Market. An eagle named It's Ok To Be White popped out of her uterus (which is my own PRIVATE PROPERTY as defined in the Bible), sang "Red White and Blue" by Toby Keith, and shat fish bowl cleaner into our mouths, curing us all of the democrat hoax Wuhan Flu immediately. And then everybody clapped.

[Anonymous No.15000544]

>>14994973
People are extremely petty, you'll see the same from both sides

[Anonymous No.15000550]

>>15000205
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.15000737]

>>14997667
Oh wow, a low quality photo!! You sure convinced me!!! Great evidence faglord

[Anonymous No.15000747]

>>14998097
>Duuurrr I can't stop harming the planet 100%, therefore I shouldn't do anything at all!
Your mom should have aborted you

[Anonymous No.15000806]

>>15000747
The harsh reality is that you're not doing anything. You living or dying has no effect on the earth. The sad part is, you picked the least significant contributor of greenhouse gasses that you possibly could. If you wanna make a difference, focus on energy, transportation, and industrial pollution.

[Anonymous No.15000841]

>>15000806
>focus on these things you likely have no power to control
Why do nihilist retards do this?

[Anonymous No.15000884]

>>14995404
literally no idea what that word means. sounds gay. don't be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.15000891]

>>14994928
The only vegan food I've had that was legitimatly good was Dosas and Lentil Soup.

What are some things I need to try?

[Anonymous No.15000896]

>>14995434
>The point is that being vegan because you feel sad for animals is dumb.

why?

[Anonymous No.15000923]

>>14997894
So much anger from a little man

[Anonymous No.15000974]

>>15000923
dont be triggered by the chads sweetheart.

[Anonymous No.15001045]

>>15000747
I love how you assume I'm not doing anything.

Ever thought that maybe being a consumer and contributing and producing nothing isn't helping anything?
Maybe... maybe... if only you could... find a way to grow some of your own food? No way, that's impossible, that would require effort. Better get all your shit shipped in from all four corners of the globe.

I'm not a nihilist, but I do think humanity is mismanaged. Why the fuck is only 1 percent of the United States producing food? Maybe we wouldn't have to transport as much and use so much heavy machinery and intensive chemicals if more people produced food. I'm not asking for you to have a several thousand acre plantation or a CAFO. But a handful of animals, and a nice market garden.

But no. You think if you get the impossible whopper instead of the regular whopper you are saving the planet.

Maybe if you actually did something positive you wouldn't be so misanthropic and abrasive? I believe humanity is inherently good.

[Anonymous No.15001074]

>>14994973
Veganism as a diet is fine. Whatever, it's your body, eat what you want to be healthy. Moral veganism is dumb though because you're just eating to satisfy your moral standing and not what makes you healthy.

[Anonymous No.15001225]

>>14994928
Who here plant-based?
I want to reduce meat intake for environmental reasons. So for now I'm plant based.
I like to eat meat Friday or Saturday for dinner.

[Anonymous No.15001292]

>>15000896
because learning about the suffering in the world is part of growing up, and trying to reduce that suffering is a sign of maturity, but doing it to the point where your health is at stake is retarded and immature

[Anonymous No.15001483]

>>14994928
I had steak for lunch and for dinner, shit was so cash.

[Anonymous No.15001561]

>>15000841
>focus on some thing thats hard to change, but would make a big difference
Or
>focus on something that's so insignificant it couldn't change anything even in a best case scenario
Hmm, I wonder what the vegan will choose?

[Anonymous No.15001568]

>>15001045
You're right. That's why the triggered vegans aren't responding.

[Anonymous No.15001583]

>>15001483
what kind? A nice scotch fillet in a toasted bun with a little relish is always comfy.

[Anonymous No.15001590]

>>15001292
>but doing it to the point where your health is at stake is retarded and immature
Not coming up with stuff is also a sign of maturity. Children come up with stuff and think they are true what they just imagined. Almost all vegans know exactly how to build a healthy diet and take the right supplements. Let's go with the facts and not with your imaginative feelings what vegans do or don't do, shall we? Less straw men, more facts. Let's be adults.

[Anonymous No.15001617]

>>15001590
>Almost all vegans know exactly how to build a healthy diet and take the right supplements. Let's go with the facts

We have been discussing fatcs. Your dissonance is so profound i wouldnt be surprised if your body shattered upon reaching its own "moron resonance"
>Let's be adults.
Still waiting on you

[Anonymous No.15001621]

>>15001590
If you almost all know how to do it, why do you all look anorexic? Your delusions sure are grand.

[Anonymous No.15001658]

>>15001621
self hate is part of the philosophy. Their body is meat, so it too must be purged, freeing themselves from the confines or muscles and coming full glory into proud Ms Skeletals all the while allowing a mental barrier to form that deflects any criticism. Not even Scientology can hope to achieve this level of cult-think

[Anonymous No.15001908]

>>15001568
I'm kind of surprised they don't respond. I have vegan family who I debate with regularly, and regularly speak with many vegans. Vegans have very selective hearing, and if you tell them something that is hard to argue (i.e growing your own food will help minimize your carbon footprint on our ever consolidating food system) They will just move the goalposts and change the subject to something else. Usually they will start comparing animals to people of color, women, or certain religious groups and ask me if it's okay to kill them.

As racist as this website is, even the skinheadiest,, meat eating, milk guzzling /pol/tard cannot hold a candle to a vegan. Vegans say some fucked up shit. The racist, anti indigenous rights bullshit that comes from vegans pisses me off. And I generally am a relatively chill person, even when dealing with bigotry.

[Anonymous No.15001937]

>>14998063
If we killed all the Indos and Chinese, we wouldn't need all that meat.

[Anonymous No.15001965]

I didn’t know people were still doing veganism, as a trend it’s not really in style any more. Most people gave up and are trying to do grass fed beef and farmers markets.

[Anonymous No.15002095]

>>14994928
Take your religion, and shove it.