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14969278 No.14969278 [Reply] [Original]

the simplest foods are the most dififcult to perfect...

>> No.14969347

>>14969278
no, the most difficult foods are the most difficult to perfect

>> No.14969364

>>14969347
fpbp

>>14969278
Wrong. How do you fuck up a simple food like a grilled cheese or a PB&J. Literal retarded people can figure that out.

>> No.14969368

this is true. I always fuck up grilled cheese and I got so mad I broked my pan and cried for hours so i don't try and make them anymore

>> No.14969383

>>14969278
Butter the outside of both. not too much Kraft cheese in the middle, slap on mid-low pan until melted and crisp.

if you can't make this by know you should find another hobby.

>> No.14969386
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14969386

>>14969278
Peak of mount stupid

>> No.14969439

>>14969347
>>14969364
>>14969368
>>14969383
>>14969386
id is truly the Most dificuld food...

>> No.14969536

>>14969278
Simplest foods are under the most scrutiny.

A really good deconstructed Osso Bucco is really good. A really good grilled cheese is not good enough to make a fuss over.

>> No.14969583

>>14969278
Add a tomato and use swiss
Va la

>> No.14969595

>>14969383
>Kraft cheese
bait or amerilard

>> No.14969689

>>14969583
Gross

>>14969595
Enjoy your hard burnt shitwich

>> No.14969723

>>14969689
>tomato
>Gross

I see, just an amerilard then nothing to see here move along

>> No.14969734

>>14969723
Tomatos are American, idiot.

>> No.14969754

>no kimchi
0/10 grilled cheese

>> No.14969756

>>14969723
Not everyone wants their grilled cheese to have a hot tomato like the whopper that's been sitting in your dash for 3 days fatass

>> No.14969771

>>14969756
>no ur the fatass!
ok lardass, dont forget to drop ur mobility scooter off at the exit before leaving

>> No.14969778

>>14969771
Least I can get out of bed fat fuck

>> No.14969796
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14969796

>all the fighding in this thred
ye.s.. as i expecded.... truly the mosd difficuld meal...

>> No.14969842

>>14969347
I hate this board so much

>> No.14969845

>>14969278
so i recently got a hankering for grilled cheese and i looked up a couple of recipes. at least two that i saw had you putting the buttered bread on a COLD pan and then waiting a few minutes. is that legit?

another question, i've basically taken to just melting butter in the pan at low-medium heat, waiting a bit, maybe 30 seconds at most after the butter has completely melted and then putting the sandwich in the pan and flipping it.. this is out of lazyness, because i kind of hate buttering the other side of the toast while it's in the pan, it's kind of awkward. is there anything wrong with doing that?

>> No.14969862

>>14969845
Doing it with buttered bread, starting with a cold, lidded pan gives you more opportunity to melt the cheese as the bread fries.

There's nothing wrong with your method. That's a perfectly reasonable way to grill a cheese.

>> No.14969874

>>14969862
sweet thanks. i wasn't sure, since we don't make grilled cheese in my country. havent had any issues with cheese not melting, but it wasn't ultra stringy or anything either. guess it might be worth a try, just to see what happens. i know the cheese matters too, but i think i've got a pretty good melting cheese and i've tried with cheddar and gruyere too, when i felt like it.

>> No.14969984

>>14969874
It lets you go a bit heavier on the cheese if you want. Mind you, if you really want to go overboard, just whip up some Welsh Rabbit (Yeah, yeah, rarebit, I know... but it isn't).

>> No.14970071

>>14969984
yeah i guess i could but that's more similar to open faced sandwiches we make here so a grilled cheese feels more like an exotic treat.

but one time i saw a video from that pro home cooks guy on it and i do like the idea of a sandwich mix with beer and worcestershire sauce in it. i really should do it one day. i guess if i see a nice cheddar next time in the store i'll go for it.

>> No.14970110

>>14970071
It'll work with any reasonably sharp, melting cheese. If you find the sauce isn't sharp enough, a little (more) hot mustard, worcester and hot sauce should fix it right up.

>> No.14970241

>>14969874
>In my country there is problem...

>> No.14970261

>>14969278
omellete

>> No.14970270

>>14970261
It's hard to make a perfectly executed umlaut in a French style, but it's also something that sort of demands its own practice - it's probably the fastest way to turn two eggs into a meal.

>> No.14970271

>>14970270
"perfectly executed" thats the problem, something so apparently simple really isn't so simple.

>> No.14970296

>>14970271
It's still an omelette, but yeah. I said earlier that the simplest dishes are held to a higher level of scrutiny, then butchered the word ossobuco. A slightly browned omelette that you cooked on teflon, and flipped over with a spatula is probably going to be just as tasty as a perfectly golden one done on steel and flipped out with French pan-related martial arts techniques, but fucked if I'd even think of serving it up the first way after learning how to do it "properly". When I'm cooking for myself, I prefer a little colour on the outside, as long as the inside's still creamy. A little chive, a little tarragon. God damn god damn.

>> No.14970321

>>14970296
Don't forget a few stalks of asparagus, that'll really freak people out.

>> No.14970385

>>14970321
some folks like it... farmers mostly.

>> No.14970488

>>14970385
If not done right they'll come after you with pitchforks.

>> No.14970490

>>14970488
They're a simple, forgiving folk.

>> No.14970513

>>14970490
They have a long memory that never forgets.

>> No.14970519
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>>14969278
Even the best chef in the world struggles with the simplest food sometimes.

>> No.14970522

>>14970513
They get a bit squidgy when they see the bolts sticking out of my neck, but they're alright people.

Don't feed them whiskey after midnight.

>> No.14970524

>>14970519
thad loks disgusding whad is id

>> No.14970546

>>14970524
looks like an alright sandwich, but it falls short of a grilled cheese.

>> No.14970675

>>14970522
That might be water in the dark, then they go freaky.

>> No.14970695

>>14970524
>>14970546
That's nothing but a failed attempt at a rueben.

>> No.14970698

>>14970695
thang U for explaining

>> No.14970709

>>14970695
Definitely falls short of a Reuben. Where's the Russian?

>> No.14970712

>>14970698
I'm always here to please.

>> No.14970716

>>14970709
It's the dressing Russian or Thousand Island.

>> No.14970719

>>14970712
u are very nice man :D

>> No.14970744

>>14970716
... but where is it? Don't tell me there's some homeopathic Russian dressing solution vaguely whispered about in a long forgotten tongue somewhere in the vicinity of that bread, or I swear to god I will open up the creases in that man's forehead with a flensing knife.

>> No.14970759

>>14970744
hahaha, you have issues. A reuben isn't supposed to be doused in sauce, a little is all it takes.

>> No.14970780

>>14970744
If you're getting it from some fast food joint then yeah, they'd douse it with sauce, but then that's fast food shit.

>> No.14970799

>>14970744
You seem like you'd go for that phrenology and ouija boards.

>> No.14970802

>>14970759
>>14970780
Ok... but, where's the goodness on Gord's Reuben. It looks like a half-assed grilled cheese with some meat and cold cheese in it. The bread-to-stuffing ratio is making me question the effort of it being anything but toast.

>> No.14970810

>>14970799
Only ever at the same time, ideally while borshch simmers in the background. Do not mess with the spirits unless examining a man's skull.

>> No.14970819

>>14970802
There used to be a cool place named "Reubens" in Manhattan, it was on Madison avenue around 40th street or so, they made a mean one. There used to be mom & pop shops around there too, now sadly it's all gone.

>> No.14970835

>>14970810
You don't play football with the guys skulls? That's a waste.

>> No.14970838

>>14970519
>best chef in the world

>> No.14970843

>>14969842
sometimes, when I laugh really hard, the milk squirts out my nose

>> No.14970852

>>14970835
well... no... it's phrenology. They're still attached.

>>14970819
Anytime I've ever ordered one, it has to be squeezed down to even take a bite.

>> No.14970856

>>14970524
burnt bread with hard british cheeses and fucking kimchi on it

>> No.14970857

>>14970843
You should do that with some count chocula, it's that time of the year.

>> No.14970860

>>14970857
why would I be eating cereal?

>> No.14970862

>>14969439
druly* idiot

>> No.14970869

>>14970852
That's lame shit where they give tons of meat for a little sandwich, that's tourist shit. Places that dont cater to tourists and cameras are much more reasonable.

>> No.14970876
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14970876

>>14970860
Because its spooky and you want to scare your girlfriend.

>> No.14970879

>>14970862
you're ride.... im sorry...

>> No.14970896

>>14970869
How is that lame? If I wanted bread, I'd buy a loaf of bread. If I wanted a sensible sandwich, I could buy a loaf, meat, veg and sauces for the price of a god damned Reuben, and have sensible, weight-friendly sandwiches for weeks. When I need to remind myself how slow suicide can be, I walk down the block and order myself a $15 reuben with some fries... and usually take half of the sandwich to go, because that's honestly too much food, even for my fat ass.

>> No.14970907

>>14970896
It's lame for places that cater to tourists, like Katzs in manhattan, for idiots that stand in line for those types of places. Nobody that grew up there goes to those places and doesn't expect a mile high pile of meat for a couple slices of bread. It makes no sense.

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>>14970869
that's right, I'm thinkin Arby's

>> No.14970917

>>14970896
>weight-friendly
What are you some kind of fag?

>> No.14970934

>>14970917
In what sense? Literally?

>>14970907
I'm not waiting for a sandwich. I'm mostly just jarred/offended if Gordo's thick-bread-with-minimal-filling is indeed a reuben. If you're going to photograph or film something, make it grandiose. At least make it visible.

>> No.14970935

>>14970914
ARRRRRBYS!!!!
The pirate destination.

>> No.14970944

>>14970934
>>weight-friendly
I don't know, you wrote it, don't expect me to explain your nonsense.

>> No.14970946

>>14969278
No they aren't gay bitch.

>> No.14970954

>>14970944
I just wanted to know if I'm supposed to be sending you pics of my meat wedged between marble rye.

>> No.14970959

>>14970954
pics or it didn't happen, seems like cooking stuff

>> No.14970978

>>14970959
Well, it hasn't happened. I'm getting mixed signals. Are you hungry, or do you just want a bit of meat?

>> No.14970987

>>14970954
There's this funny scene from that movie Batchelor Party (?) where they got this male stripper dude to put his huge pen0r in a hot dog bun, that was classic and hilarious. Even more so because I used to live right by there.

>> No.14970995

>>14970978
I'd like to make some chili but it's late and I don't want to make a trip to a supermarket.

>> No.14972307

>>14969386
>Beautiful, the cheese has melted.

>> No.14972467

>>14969595
I only ever make grilled cheese for nostalgia or a cheap snack, and for both cases Kraft processed dairy product is the superior option.

>> No.14972628

>>14969278
Look fucker
Food is mainly a relationship you have with it
Best foods are generally something that brings back memories many will say blah blah roasted chicken is incredible .... Fact is it will easiest to fail to replicate perfectly /as in memories
although easiest to repeat and forever be a favorite with whatever miss
Which I would say the environment would be major missing factor
Weather it be that hug from earlier that day from gramma or enjoying time at the park or whatever something isn't the same when it could be just 20 years difference or something along the lines of adult personal preference

>> No.14972648
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14972648

>Leave grilled cheese to me

>> No.14972661

>>14972628
very tudging posd anon... you are righd

>> No.14973311

>>14969595
>t. Gordon Ramsey

>> No.14973337

>>14970519
>"wow... the cheese... is melted"
Why did he say that? Why the FUCK did he think that would be a good idea? Did he think the audience wouldn't notice? Or that his crew would edit the footage in such a way they never show the cross-section? Was he coked out of his mind? Or maybe he thought that by saying it out loud, the universe would somehow melt it for him?

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14973344

>>14973337
Dude, calm the fuck down. He's just doubling down on the lie. It's "TV" man.

>> No.14973359

>>14973344
>It's just bait bro, despite his giant fucking ego, Gordon's totally fine destroying his own reputation for a few hundred thousand views on yootoobe

>> No.14973394

>>14973359
>The concept of celebrities with overly large egos being foreign.

>> No.14973399

>>14969386
doesn't it make sense to stay at the peak of "mt stupid"? Confidence is high, but effort invested is low.

>> No.14973407

>>14969278
As a long time profession cook and occasional "chef", no. A grilled cheese is bat shit easy to hit out of the park. Current year /ck/ is fucking pathetic.

>> No.14973434

>>14973399
If you're happy being delusional and don't give a shit about whatever you do being garbage and everyone rolling their eyes at you for claiming you are the shit when you are actually incompetent, then sure.

>> No.14973493

>>14970838
something a lot of people really believe

>> No.14973512

>>14969364
Didn't Gordan Ramboi burn his Grilled cheese and fail to actually get the cheese melted at the same time?

>> No.14974275

>>14972648
Look at that pathetic sack of british shit.
What is her purpose?

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>>14972661
You mean professor turgesion

>> No.14974315

I swear I was better at making grilled cheeses before i looked up "the best way to make a grilled cheese"

before it seemed so simple and easy then next thing I know i'm somehow fucking it up.

>> No.14974338

>>14969364
>How do you fuck up a simple food like a grilled cheese or a PB&J
By overcomplicating it and not adapting to your own hubristic modifications, such as Gordon Fucking Ramsay literally fucking up a grilled cheese on video.

Also, in either case, you could use shitty stale bread, or simply the wrong kind of bread. A PB&J shouldn't use a nicer chewy, crusty bread; it wants soft, pillowy cheap bread from the store. If you must get something nice for it, make sure it's a soft roll-type bread. Some people fuck up grilled cheese by either burning it, or not getting their pan hot enough, or not adding the right fats, or amounts of them.

>> No.14974344

>>14970934
That's truly the lamest shit, making something visible for the sake of it being visible. I don't need some dagwood fucking huge thing just for a silly sandwich and I don't want to pay $30 for it either.

>> No.14974374

>>14974338
You should get a room with some garlic bread, you're overthinking stuff.

>> No.14974375

>>14974344
>If you're going to photograph or film something
Gordon's not charging you $30 for that failure. You have no connection to that sandwich at all... but for what's going on there, that photo might as well have been vantablack pastrami on charcoal rye in candlelit black-and-white.

>> No.14974378

>>14974374
I'm not overthinking anything; I've seen people fuck this stuff up. The point is, you can definitely fuck up grilled cheese or PB&J.

>> No.14974387

>>14974375
But I can get one of the best reubens on the planet with a side of fries for like $10 a couple blocks from me, and no celebrity pretense or bullshit.

>> No.14974400

>>14974387
Sounds awesome. Can you tell what's on it from the outside/middle?

>> No.14974460

>>14974400
Its pretty simple, it's just roast beast, pastrami or corned beef with swiss on some good rye with russian or thousand island dressing.

>> No.14974482

>>14974400
I can't tell that, all the meats tend to look the same once in a sandwich.

>> No.14974488

>>14974460
If you can see meat, cheese, and some evidence of dressing when you cut the sandwich in half, I'm satisfied in it being better than Golem Ranma's falsehood sandwich on lie.

Although one question: no sauerkraut?

>> No.14974533

>>14974488
I think sauerkraut is more an accrochement if I got this French spelling right.

>> No.14974561

>>14969278
All you need is some soft butter, rub that shit all over and especially on the crusts.
When you're done with that it's just a matter of stuffing some cheese in there and frying it on low and slow.
It's not hard at all.

>> No.14974570

>>14974561
bu.. bu.. you forgot the garlic.
With proper garlic bread you can stave off vampires.

>> No.14974646

>>14974533
I think accoutrement's the word, but either way, I gotcha.

Maybe it's just how Reubens are around here - corned beef (or smoked for a Montreal Reuben) at least as thick as one of the slices of bread, always some variety of Russian dressing, always at least two slices of swiss, and always sauerkraut.

The only real change around here is where the bread and meat are from. There are one or two places that make them sky-high, but usually it's fairly long slices of rye.

>> No.14975021

>>14970934
what are you retards talking about man you know that is supposed to be a grilled cheese right? https://youtu.be/8E4cQHejFq0

>> No.14975052

>>14975021
>kimchi
thad does nod sound gud...

>> No.14975065

>>14975021
lol he fucking burned it and put rotting cabbage what a pathetic excuse for a "chef"
how is this not meme'd constantly on this board

>> No.14975073

>>14975065
cheese isn't even melted either

>> No.14975086

>>14975065
It has been memed on this board every single day since the video's release

>> No.14975091

>>14975021
I was told it's a reuben. I didn't care enough to check that info.

>> No.14975170

>>14973512
hey did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4cQHejFq0

>> No.14975737

>>14975091
kys

>> No.14975750

>>14975737
ladies first