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bros is cooking in the west coming to an end?
It seems like nowadays with the push of food delivery services and their increasing popularity, cooking food is seen as a hassle and a chore (especially in younger generations).
I feel in the future young adults will just become incredibly lazy and won't learn recipes from their parents and that this trend will continue until making instant noodles is seen as a traditional "cooked" dinner.

>> No.14968518

>>14968492
In my experience it is usually men now that learn how to cook. Every one of the three girls I dated could not cook for shit. And they loved ordering off apps or buying from some convenient store.
Honestly don't get it. Most of my male friends still prefer to eat home made meals.
And most of the women I know don't.

Anyone with the same experience?

>> No.14968521

>>14968518
No, I'd say it's pretty 50/50 between my friends of both genders.

>> No.14968536

>>14968521
I thought the average 20-30 year old is broke and can barely afford to eat?
How do they afford to use these apps, or even buy pre made food every other day.
I mostly make my own food because of the financial benefits, but it is also fun.

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>>14968518
>the extent of my cooking skills is dialing for delivery! teehee! aren't i so quirky and cute!

>> No.14968556

It's only going to get worse.

More and more things that were once normal will become commodified. You'll have to own a permit for your fucking chef's knife.

The only way you make money in America is off the stupidity and laziness of your fellow citizens.

My goal is to be 100% self-reliant and only go to stores for raw materials. The health and financial reasons are obvious but it also minimizes as best as possible my contribution to the corporate enterprise.

>> No.14968569

>>14968537
God I have been through this. There is nothing I hate more then going home to my apartment after working 10 hours a day and still have to cook a meal for me and some lazy zoomer. I'm fine if I just make it for my self. But they are so ungrateful, you can make them a 5 star meal and they will still be disappointed because you didn't grab food at her favorite pajeet shop

>> No.14969224

>>14968492
I can't even use these fags delivery services because they don't accept cash

>> No.14970572

Nah.
People that still want to cook will cook. TV dinners, the microwave, and betty crocker completely fucked any chance of most boomers learning how to cook. A whole generation and a half had them as parents, so they don't know any better.
The internet also unfucked cooking skills for anyone that wants to learn.
>plebs gonna pleb

>> No.14971106

>>14968492
speak for yourself homo. i like cooking, i prefer it to throwing away money

>> No.14971184

>>14968492
>it seems
>I feel
The facts don't actually line up with your feelings. Home cooking has been steadily rising for years now (Millenials are killing restaurants!) and the COVID lockdowns have increased it even faster. The NPD market research group estimated in 2018 that in the US 82% of meals in the US are prepared at home, up significantly from 10 years ago. Also prepackaged food sales have been steadily declining as more people opt to cook from scratch.
>But IT SEEMS! I FEEL!
Of course it seems like food delivery services are increasing in popularity, because they're a novel business and HEAVILY promote themselves, but most people aren't eating out as much because it's becoming too expensive and delivery services put additional costs on top of that rising price point.

>> No.14971298

I like cooking, I just don't like doing it daily.
I only want to cook a proper dish twice a week and eat leftovers the rest of the week.
Sometimes I'll cook something up that reuses leftovers but nothing big that requires preparation.
It's just a chore, especially when you don't know that many recipes or uses for ingredients because your parents never bothered.

>> No.14971350

>>14968518
Most women I know still cook. But more men than you'd think cook a fair amount, I'm definitely the outlier in that I'll cut any corner possible to avoid any amount of serious cooking.

I was hoping during Covid I'd feel different now that I have the time to take it more serious, but it just dialed up my ordering more, up until their recent cost increases. I'm buying prepackaged stuff now, but whatever.

I think it's easy to blame my parents here, they didn't cook. And I used to be so stressed at work that cooking was the last thing I wanted to fuck with.

>> No.14971420

>>14968492
>bros is cooking in the west coming to an end?
Being human is. Technology will displace humans in all spheres of society.

>> No.14971460

>>14968518
I find that there is a greater correlation between home cooking and poverty (especially poor parents) than home cooking and sex.

>> No.14971502

>>14968518
I haven't noticed any discernible gap in the cooking skills of my friends and acquaintances based on sex. More often then not it comes down to how much opportunity/pressure they had to develop life skills in their teens and 20s.
>>14971460
In my experience there's a bit of a curve in the life skills of people based on their economic backgrounds. I've seen a lot of young people from broke ass families that don't know how to cook, but I've also seen a lot of young people from upper middle class families that also don't know how to cook (or do any number of other basic adult life tasks) because it was always done for them until they left the house.

>> No.14971684

>>14968492
im not fucking paying 15$ for a burrito

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>>14968492
>>14968518
I had no idea these apps were even a thing until I moved to college in a bigger city and actually saw it out on the streets. It was such a weird fucking experience, coming from a small town where we don't have this shit. I still think it's retarded though.

>> No.14972243 [DELETED] 

>have $30 off first meal uber eats coupon
>apply to 50 guys order
>order is still $20 for two people

Ordering a meal from 5 Guys for 2 from Uber Eats is 50 fucking dollars? Are zoomers really this lazy?

>> No.14972273

>Get $30 of first meal coupon from UberEats in email
>expires today
>Dial up 5 guys order thinking it will be next to free and 5 guys is on the other side of town
>still $20

Are zoomers really this lazy that they'll waste $50 on a fast food meal for two?

>> No.14972292

>>14971184
>OP starts an innocent discussion
Go back to raddit, neckbeard atheist shitlord.

>> No.14972339

It's funny how delivery for anything other than pizza wasn't really a thing not that long ago. I always thought there was a market for it and then it just suddenly blew up almost overnight. I never thought I'd see so many people lean on it so heavily though

The idea went from me being a visionary about it to not getting why it's so overused in less than a decade

>> No.14972485

>>14972339
Uber opened the door for it but the "gig economy" is not economically sustainable. It's the dot comm boom all over again with gullible investors dumping money into novelty tech start ups that won't actually pay off in the long run. The food delivery apps are probably the worst offenders because they screw over literally everyone. The screw the restaurants with their commission rates, they screw the workers with low pay and they screw the customers with higher delivery fees. They just need to push their profile and aggressively promote themselves long enough for a larger company to take notice and buy them out for a fat stack of cash.

>> No.14972575

>>14972000
Same kinda experience, moved to big city for university and only really expected rich freshmen to use those apps, nope, there's an ubereats delivery driver coming multiple times every night at my dorm. Weirded me out when I first got here, but guess that's just how my generation does things now. I do want to learn to cook though.

>> No.14972767

>>14968492
Yeah... probably not

>> No.14972811

I was actually surprised that I'm saving money when ordering foods online vs buying them in a nearby store.
I can pick brands with better price/quality ratio, can buy certain shelf-stable things in bulk and have more time to actually cook vs buying stuff.

Unfortunately, there's no replacement for fresh veg, because only way to get cheap AND quality vegs like tomatoes is to hit farmer's market.

>> No.14972818

Now that uber eats halo period is over it costs about what you would expect food delivery to cost, nearly $10 if you don't order $15 worth of food. And that's if you don't tip. I don't think delivery will straight up replace cooking until it can be automated and get really cheap.

>> No.14972823

>>14972485
>but the "gig economy" is not economically sustainable

So long as yuppies and hipsters persist with disposable income and laziness when it comes to meal times i.e. ordering takeaway, and there is a large pool of hard pressed desperate losers who can't get a stable job elsewhere then this 'gig economy' for delivery services is going to continue.

>> No.14972838

>>14972811
I still prefer to buy fresh veg, fruits, and meat at the store because I can actually look them over myself, plus with the meat I can buy the one that's been packed the most recently or go to the counter and ask for a specific cut

I tried to order chicken thighs through amazon once and they arrived vacuum sealed, but when I opened it the chicken had a very sulfury smell. When I googled it it said it could either be because the method by which amazon seals the chicken makes them smell like sulfur or because salmonella has made its way into the chicken. Rather than chance it on amazon chicken I tossed them and i'll just be buying from the store again from now on.

>> No.14974159

>>14972575
>but guess that's just how my generation does things now.
That's how most college students have done things since the 80s, it's just one they have access to more options than pizza and chinese food for delivery. School dorms tend to have inadequate cooking facilities anyway and most students eat at the dining hall or get take out, it's not something that's unique to your generation.

>> No.14974172

>>14968518
Yup. My boyfriend cooks and is amazing. I usually ask him for tips, not sure about girls but most of my other friends don’t cook at all and never bother.

>> No.14974177

>>14972823
>hard pressed desperate losers who can't get a stable job elsewhere
That's not who is doing the work in this situation. It's mostly people supplementing the inadequate pay at their other jobs or are in between jobs because of lay offs or closures. Schizos and crackheads don't drive Ubereats because they can't afford cars or the required insurance. The gig economy was a novel way for start up companies to sidestep labor and pay laws by declaring everyone an independent contractor, and it's generating a lot of revenue for the app makers because they have such low overhead but it's not generating stable enough income for the people doing the work so it will start collapse in on itself. It's just another temporary business bubble that will make a handful of people rich and then they'll move on to the next novelty business trend.

>> No.14974189

>>14974159
This. Fun fact, Domino's was one of the first big chains to do delivery and tested it at select universities in the 80s. My parents were one of those people who got to experience food delivery like that for the first time in the midwest. If you lived in NYC, however, delivery existed for them much longer. Cooking culture died before our time and it's actually on the rise for our generation, albeit it can be hard to see that when you work with college students or shitty dead-end retail or fast food workers who can only do low-paying jobs.

tl;dr same shit different day

>> No.14974246

>>14974189
The restaurant industry latching on to third party delivery apps so quickly despite the fact that they're getting screwed by them is evidence of a desperation play anyway. People have been eating out less and less so restaurants are trying to entice them back by offering more delivery.

>> No.14974689

>>14974246
It's not just out of desperation. The problem is that you'd need 1-2 delivery drivers always on staff for a service that is mostly new. Is it a true industry shift, or is it a fad? No company really wants to train and hire drivers when a cheaper, third party option exists. Once it becomes more profitable to deliver food themselves, they'll drop these apps like dead rats. We're just not there yet.

>> No.14974700

>>14968492
>thinking about this just now
most of my friends and coworkers within my age range (late 20s/early 30s) can't cook, and those that can can't make more than shit like a grilled cheese

>> No.14974855

>>14974700
sounds like you associate with deadbeat losers desu

>> No.14975529

>>14974689
Probably the biggest reason a lot of restaurants didn't have delivery staff is the insurance costs. You have to have a huge policy on each driver in case they get in to an accident and damage their car, injure or kill themself or someone else. Delivery apps pitched themselves as an easy alternative, but the commissions most of them charge are fucking over smaller restaurants. The other reason it can't last is actually more /o/ related. Car loan defaults are on the rise. More people are having trouble affording newer cars and most driver/delivery apps won't let you use older cars or cars with only minimal insurance.

>> No.14975704

>>14968492
I started delivering for Uber when the pandemic started and I lost my job.
85% of the people ordering are females under 30.
When men order food its almost always black guys ordering chicken or white guys ordering a bunch of food for a party.

>> No.14975724

>>14968492
people cant even fix their own shit anymore. When was the last time you saw a TV repair shop? We've been trending towards a no skill, system reliant society for decades.

>> No.14975731

There are carvings found on walls of ancient Roman and Greek cities talking about how the younger generations are ruining everything, your generation is not the last bastion of civilization and decency and every single generation since the dawn of man has thought so

>> No.14975754

not even close. zoomers and millennials are unironically better cooks than their boomer parents. however, many of them also have to break out of the chain of laziness they learned from their boomer parents

>> No.14975764

>>14975731
All of those civilization collapsed just as ours is on the trend towards, society is usually in a permanent state of decay once those who dont care for it become dominant.

>> No.14975878

>>14975724
>people cant even fix their own shit anymore. When was the last time you saw a TV repair shop?
If they could fix their own shit why would they need to take it to a TV repair shop?

>> No.14975950

>>14974689
I see one of two things happening. Either A) the economy rebounds which means people don't need side gigs to make ends meet anymore and restaurants start doing well enough to bring delivery services in house or B) the economy continues to shit the bed so more people can't afford cars and more restaurants close down. Either way it spells a future irrelevance for third party delivery services. Not to mention that state and local governments hate the gig economy because it's harder to regulate and tax, so when the public coffers start getting low they'll go after them.

>> No.14975994

>>14975878
lol

>> No.14976194

>>14975878
It's an example of how products are dumbed down and anti consumer to where even specialists can't do anything let alone the little guy

>> No.14976227

>>14968518
>>14968537
i hate women so much, bros.

>> No.14976256

>>14976227
>>>/r9k/

>> No.14976568

>>14976227
based

>> No.14976582

>>14976227
Me too bro

>> No.14976995

>>14968556
what if i told you i could deliver those raw materials to your house for a small fee

>> No.14977009

>>14975731
each generation fails to pass an important lesson down, these lessons compound and eventually people are saying stupid shit like what you just said

>> No.14978284

>>14976227
same