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>Plant based Burgers
>Plant based Steak
>Plant based chicken
>Plant based milk

Join the future /ck/

>> No.14953720

Or I could have burgers, steak, chicken, and milk.

>> No.14953722

>>14953693
Anon that's not plant based "milk".....

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>> No.14953770

>>14953693
If you're not lactose intolerant, just drink actual fucking milk. I don't understand this "plant based" garbage.

>> No.14953801

>cow-based milk

>> No.14953818

>>14953693
>Milk based milk

>> No.14953819

>>14953693
>>Plant based Burger substitute
>>Plant based Steak substitute
>>Plant based chicken substitute
>>Plant based milk substitute

FTFY. There's no such thing as plant based burger or steak or chicken or milk.

>> No.14953837

>>14953693
It is 3 times as expensive as actual milk while the ingredients are basically just industrial waste.

Soy is cheap animal fodder, Rice used in this drinks is unsellable broken grain trash people wouldn't feed their dog, and the oat dust they use is also garbage.
They also use lecithin (soy based) and a cheap neutral oil.
If you spend more than 20 cent a litre on this you are an absolute tool.

You can also mix that shit together at home if you really want. All you need is a good mixer.

>> No.14953862

>>14953770
Vegans not understanding that milking a cow doesn't harm it

>> No.14953879
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>>14953693
>What, so even after admitting that you can't tell the difference in a blind taste test, you still insist on drinking a natural agricultural product, instead of the artifically-flavored chemical slurry from Dr. Goldstein's lab?

>> No.14953890

>>14953693

No one bothers asking why. You just consume consume consume. What is wrong with the authentic food item?? Not modified enough?

>> No.14953892

>>14953693
i like walnut milk and chestnut milk, but if impossible foods is making it with his gmo overprocessed "soy" i dont want to be part of the "future" fuck those shit. fuck big "healthy" corps they dont care about food for real

>> No.14953897

>>14953693
Mm. Soy and Corn. My favorites!

>> No.14953899

>>14953862
Well vegans are, for the most part, kind of crazy.

>> No.14953917

>>14953862
well you have to keep a cow pregnant for it to make milk, so the point of milk not being vegan is that milk itself is a form of explotation for the cow, the calf is separate from the mother and shit, dont forget that explotation of an animal counts as something being vegan or not, just like honey isnt vegan either for reasons...
t. not vegan but have been in animal rescuse groups and been with vegan chicks

>> No.14953938

>>14953890
>What is wrong with the authentic food item??
Profit margins. Imagine taking water, cheap oil, animal fodder and lecithin, mixing it and selling it for 3 bucks the pack.

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>>14953693
Why is one milk plant-based but this other "milk" is impossible? Is the impossible milk just semen?

>> No.14954255

>>14953917
>honey not vegan
but isn't the vast majority of honey farmers also literally protecting their bees. At least now.

also let me speak for everyone who loves milk but is lactose intolerant please make impossible milk that taste like cow milk.

>> No.14954268

>>14953693
Looking forward to these products. Just claimed to be making meat alternatives but I haven't heard about that in a while.

>> No.14954273

>>14953693
I think we need to sue to get all of these fucking companies to use different words. this shit is not okay. it's not "milk", it's not "egg", it's not "meat" fucking quit it.

>> No.14954286

>>14954255
Animals were involved in its production, therefore it's not vegan.

>> No.14954287

>>14953693
Test

>> No.14954288

>>14954255
it's normal for 30% of the hives to die off every year. bee farmers truck their bees from farm to farm and get them to pollinate fields that have been sprayed with different chemicals. some years they lose more bees some less, but they always have to spawn more hives to bring the numbers back up. the bees didn't sign up for it. any crop pollinated by bees isn't vegan either but vegans draw all of their lines completely arbitrarily so who even gives a fuck what vegans think

>> No.14954291

>>14953693
There is going to be a famine caused by these "foods"

>> No.14954296

>>14953693
it's not called cow-based milk, it's just milk. are they trying to make whole milk, 2%, skim?

>> No.14954325

>>14953917
So its not ok to exploit a cow but is ok to exploit south americans who are literally dieing and cutting down forests in mass for soy and avocados, got it.

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The real future of milk is human. All natural,vegan,non gmo,etc

>> No.14955031

>>14953879
Hello?
Based department.

>> No.14955122

>>14954325
neither of these are ok hth

>> No.14955143

>>14954286
Animals are also involved in the production of crops. Haven't you seen an almond farm? You do know 50 billion bees die a year for almond production in cali, right?

>> No.14955153

>>14954325
>only vegans eat avocados and soy
not even vegan but come on anon...

>> No.14955154

>>14953862
they do think it harms them.

>> No.14955161

>>14954325
yes, vegans are racist

>> No.14955216

can someone explain how this differs from soy or nut milk

>> No.14956180

>>14953693
what the fuck? just drink almond or soy milk if yous gunna be a bitch

>> No.14956187

>Cow milk
>ingredients: 1
>Impossible milk
>ingredients: 52

>> No.14956195

>>14955161
can confirm, the most despicable, racist shit i have ever heard has come from a vegans mouth

>> No.14956845

>>14954255
There are ways to remove lactose from milk and they have gotten good at it over the past 15 years or so. Used to taste off and sweet but now its almost exactly the same

My sister is intolerant as in gets serious cramps and pain not just a lil gassy so iv tried a decent amout over the years.
I still buy it even though i live alone now for 2 reasons, 1 it lasts longer and 2 i feed it to my cat(they cant handle lactose).

Cant tell ya what brand to get tho as im swedish, just buy small packs and try em till you find a brand thst does it right

>> No.14956912

>>14953862

you're forgetting, they gained so much ground now it's going a step further.

It's now being argued that not only are animal products in general not natural for humans, but that its unsustainable and harmfull to the earth ASWELL as the animal.

But to the guy who said you have to keep it pregnant,that's bullshit, and animals in north america are treated well and produce quality meat and milk. I fucking hate that hippies are jumping the gun by focusing here when they need to get their backs up against chinks and indians, asians are the single biggest polluters to the point they basically kick nature in the balls then spit in its face and they dont evem care about having a suitable standard of living for their humans let alone their animals...if they just ceased to exist we could actually increase our consumption (but wouldnt) and the earth would recover immidiatly anyways. fuck those fuckers, it was only a matter of time before they dropped the ball on somthing irreversible. They should never have been allowed to play with the important toys.

>> No.14956933

>>14956912
Ok like I agree that livestock inherently arent bad for the planet. I would even argue that it more has to do with the fact that we got 1 percent of the population trying to feed 99 percent and using industry as a massive crutch in order to produce ungodly amounts of food, of which most goes to waste anyways.

Go back to /pol/ with your stupid racist shit. Acting like fucking white people are totally fucking innocent when I have seen plenty of fucking trash in all colors of the fucking rainbow. Just watch my 600 lb life. Are they asian? No. Are they living a sustainable lifestyle? FUCK NO. They will shove whatever the fuck in their gullet as long as its coated in sugar and deep fried.

If anyone is to be ashamed its the useless consumer who could easily produce their own food but refuses to because they are lazy sacks of shit.

>> No.14956935

>>14953693
Shill-tacular post

>> No.14956946
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>>14953693
>supporting subsidized mono crop megafarms
>ever

>> No.14956971

>>14956946
the chemical industry must love vegans. they're getting paid from both ends.
>slurry sprayed on the fields
>even more slurry to process it into "hamburgers" and "milk"

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>>14956845

IMAGINE THE SMELL, does her stomach get all bloated and full of green gas? Only being relieved (but oh so pleasurable when it is) when she let's loose with a slight *brrrrrrrtt* at first, followed by a deep thundering *bbbrrrBBBBBRRRAAAAAPPffftftft* filling the room and your large cavernous clean nostrils with green pungent gas. You both pretend to keep watching t.v, as she blushes a deep red and gets a small smile, the smell is over whealming, but you hear her inhale discreetly anyways, savoring the valuable secret stank.

You get a small garden as you think about where it came from, and think about the weeks worth of kfc chicken skins you had saved. You ask her if she is hungry for your special supper and shake, it's a margarine container of kfc chicken skins topped with gravy, and 3 scoops of strawberry ice cream with a litre of milk. She eats it gingerly as you get ready to tuck her into your weird swedish shared bed, still holding the smell of your parents braps, you know she will be ready for bed early tonight, as you mixed several sleeping pills and half a x lax into the shake, as you hear her slurp the rest of the shake your thoughts drift into the future. you under the covers as your sleeping sisters body instinctively relaxes and releases a ballooned tank of farts into the cave you created under the blankets, its so strong you pass out but your brain still smells the fart gas, your retarded blonde sister gf farts continuously into the nightfilling the entire bedroom with soft smelly siste gas, green stink emits from the roof of the house as everyone in the neighborhood slumbers under a blanket of savory sick-sweet green tart gas....to be continued?

>> No.14957091

>>14956933

1 percent? you realize because of our vast amount of land and advanced agricultural equipment/seeds we can produce much more food than ever before. having a sustainable and bountiful amount of food is a great achievement and we are trying to export our experiance as much as we can, But we are doing more for the planet than ever before aswell, a country of 83 million like england, mostly concentrated in a certain urban center is not the same as a country of 2 BILLION literally packing people like cattle and killing and eating everything under the sun under un manageable and inhuman conditions are not two of the same. A couple people losing control and being enabled by family is not the same amount of bad as what they are doing in asia.

Your right, theres good and bad in everyone, the problem with them is they have created a environment where the govt allows and encourages this wanton industrial gluttony. Cheap as you can fast as you can, consume whatever can help who cares about that river, fuck treating waste just let ththe next town deal with it. I'm not pol but you cant watch the china WebMs and not realize there is somthing differnt going on. How many people just walk by a toddler who just got run over 6? one guy even runs over it again, that would never happen in north america like that. There is a differance

>> No.14957175

>>14953770
Using plants for food has a smaller carbon footprint than using big stupid cows for food.

>> No.14957194

>>14957175
Plants can't even walk, retard.

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>>14957091
You can watch webms of people being subhuman trash EVERYWHERE. Don't give me that bullshit. There are cultural issues everywhere. But don't give me that shit like England is better than anywhere else. England can't even grow enough food to support their own population. They rely heavily on imports. And, like the rest of the world, rely heavily on china.
I'm not saying thats a good thing. In fact its the opposite. Globalization has given great bounty to the industrialized world, but at a huge cost.

>>14957175
Bitch a cow will feed a man for a year. Combine that with a garden and you got yourself enough food for your family for a year. If you can't share the planet with animals maybe you should kill yourself.

>> No.14957218

>>14953693
So you mean bean-water?

Hmmm, super tasty! Ooof! Yikes!

>> No.14957219

>>14953693
The impossible burger is literally more unhealthy than a meat burger. It's just a vegan substitute, not a health food.
The same will be for the milk. It'll be worse for you, but something vegans can have.
Do not conflate impossible products with health foods.

>> No.14957222

>>14953693
So even MORE rain forest is killed for fucking soy beans.

Ah, yes. What a bright future.

>> No.14957228

>>14953862
This.

You will always want more cows, so you always got new calfs, so you always got milk.

Vegans are not rocket scientists.

>> No.14957253

>>14953693
I'm actually required by my doctor to limit the amount of plant-based foods I eat, specifically ones that are high or moderate in oxalates. So nah.

>> No.14957495

>>14957253
what do oxalates do to you

>> No.14957509

>>Plant based Burgers
>>Plant based Steak
>>Plant based chicken
i.e. lentil and vegetable patty
>>Plant based milk
i.e. nut water

>> No.14957512

>>14953879
>agricultural product
>natural
oh you sweet summer child

>> No.14957518

>>14953693
Is this how leftists think they're gonna feed 5 billion africans

>> No.14957537

>>14953770
Cows milk is fucking loaded with estrogen. There's a reason only a small portion of humanity drinks milk after childhood, and it's no coincidence that they're the same demographic that came up with cuckolding and racial self-hatred.


Grow the fuck up and stop pumping your body full of female mammalian hormones.

>> No.14957539

>>14957537
I pumped ur mom full of my hormones last night.

>> No.14957541

>>14957228
Vegans tend to disagree with separating the calves from their mothers, the killing of male dairy calves, and the general mistreatment of animals on many dairy farms. A lot also dislike how bad cows are for the environment - you can't swim in many of the rivers in my country due to dangerous levels of cow shit and other dairy industry waste!

>> No.14957546

>>14957495
They block the absorption of iron. They're basically only found in raw spinach and a few other overrated fresh greens, but most plants don't contain them and they can be removed from the few that do by just cooking them.

>> No.14957549

>>14957222
All that soy is going to the chinks and factory farmed beef.

>> No.14957584

>>14957537
AMERICAN milk has different proteins than real milk from real cows over in the real parts of the world.
It's why the usa cannot produce cheese worthy of human consumption.

>> No.14957713

>>14955161
based

>> No.14958264

>>14953890
>consumes whatever big dairy is feeding him since decades and never branches out or reflects on the ethical or ecological consequences
>y...you other guys are the mindless consoomers!!

>> No.14958282

>>14954325
No this is also not okay and no vegan says it is.
Most soy is actually used by the meat industry. If we all just ate soy we would not need to do those things.

>> No.14958412

>>14955021
imagine it not even being a slave labor thing and women just going to work to get milked

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>>14957537
oh youre a fucking genius, drinking milk makes you a cuckold and mix races, i fucking love it, please fuck my black wife while I sip on my feminist milk

*glug glug glug*!

im a gooooooood boy!

>> No.14958429

>>14953819
Cows evolved from plants and feed on grass, so every steak is actually plant based

>> No.14958612

>>14953693
Is there a serious demand for this or is the ongoing production of these söy boy food by the Jewish kabal?

>> No.14958664

>>14953917
What is the difference, morally, between an insect and a walnut? Neither is conscious.

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>>14955161
You must be tired from all those mental gymnastics

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>>14957537
>Cows milk is fucking loaded with estrogen.
Not it isn't.

>> No.14958691

>>14953693
Edible hats when

>> No.14958697

>>14958612
Soy isn't censored here, faggot.

>> No.14958719

>>14953693
>Join the future
but isn't like soy milk pretty much regular now?
its already ben through the stage of popular hype thrown off to "yeah not everyone should eat that"

>> No.14959364

>>14956912
>we could actually increase our consumption (but wouldnt)
oh I am laffin

>> No.14959615

>>14957537
Bulls drink milk and they're more masculine than vegans

>> No.14959879

I hate processed food. No joke, I tried eating impossible/beyond meat stuff this year and it made so disgusted I went pescatarian.

>> No.14960230

>>14959879
>falling for memes

Fuck these shitty threads.
Vegans are subhuman trash and these threads should warrant perma / range-bans.

>> No.14960411

>>14953770
For some reason milk spikes really badly my insulin. It doesn't happen with soy/coconut "milk", I don't know if it's because of the amount of carbs (5g in milk, 0.2 in fake milk) or something else.
I still drink actual milk when I want to treat myself (and feel hungry again 30 mins later) or after a workout, but I'm not putting it anymore in my morning coffee

>> No.14960447

>>14953693
Dairy milk is so good and its the best to cook with
But personally I like almond milk to drink, it's less harsh on the stomach and has great taste

>> No.14960579

>>14956187
This, even fairlife and other lactose free milks only have the ingredients of: milk, vitamin D, lactase enzyme (for nigger palatability)

Almond milk has like 20 ingredients. Soy milk too. These fucking vegans are eating processed foods up the ass to avoid eating renewable, tertiary animal products.

>> No.14960624

>>14954325
>>14955161
Based. Vegans are hypocrites just like us

>> No.14961730

>>14960579
If you get raw milk the ingredient is just milk. No lactase enzyme added because it hasn't been destroyed by pasteurization. Its fucking amazing shit. The milk I got even had the cows feed rations on there. Tasted sweet with the most subtle hint of fresh grass. It was amazing, I can't even explain.

>>14960230
This bruh.... This. Like I wanna be like, chill about vegans and shit, but 99.99999999999 percent of them are egotistical selfish faggots who want to push their beliefs onto others, even though if you actually are cucked enough to try it they will still continue to shit on you for "not being vegan enough". I really feel sorry for the one vegan in the world who is just doing it for personal reasons and understands their beliefs are purely subjective and the world can't stop what they are doing to adhere to their inherently deficient diet and just wants to eat their lentil tofu curry in peace. I really, really do feel for them.

>> No.14961784

>>14953770
Or just drink oat milk. It's the closest analog and unlike soy milk it's good on its own merits. Almond milk is good too but it doesn't have a pleasant consistency like oat milk does.

>> No.14961795

>>14955021
Knowing the garbage (in terms of food and chemicals) that people put into their bodies I wouldn't drink commercial human milk.

>> No.14961810

>>14960579
>Almond milk has like 20 ingredients.
It doesn't have to. Almond milk was common in medieval Europe and the recipe is literally just water and almond flour (with maybe a little honey) pushed through a sieve.

>> No.14961867

>>14956946
Ohhhh pretty rainbow... is that all the HIV infected needles or groid sweat from one of the blackest states?

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>>14961867
I believe its toxic algae blooms from chemical fertilizer and chemical runoff.

>> No.14962009

>>14953693
meh, i drink almond milk anyways. been doing so for years. nothing wrong with cows milk, i just think almond milk taste better.

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>>14953693
Saw this pea protein milk at the local supermarket. It has Canola Oil and Agave in the ingredients list. How retarded do you have to be to include a poisonous seed oil and a insulin spiking sweetener in a product you are trying to push to health conscious consumers? Packaging says soy all over it.

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>>14953917
I get veganism but will never understand why they won't make an exception for honey.
>>14956912
>and animals in north america are treated well and produce quality meat and milk. I
Ahahahaha what kind of low-IQ inbred faggot do you have to be to eat the industry propaganda this hard? They're only treated well if the metric you're using is 'isn't beaten and skinned alive en masse'. I eat factory-farmed meat a few days a week and still don't try to delude myself into thinking that the animals didn't suffer immensely. Does thinking that American food animals are treated well make you feel more comfortable, or are you one of those people who eagerly consooms whatever plate of bullshit a lobbyist wants flyover retards to believe?

>> No.14964210

>>14960447
Almond milk was actually a traditional drink and ingredient in medieval Europe, but I wouldn't expect the seething, fast food-gobbling hambeasts of /ck/ to know this.

>> No.14964932

Oat Milk is the best milk alternative.

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>>14964111
I think its really sad because I truly believe that american meat CAN be really good if we fixed up our food system.

Factory farming is shit. Its a relatively new, and at the time, a good sounding idea. But put into practice it's just awful and not too dissimilar to the inhumane practices of animal husbandry in third world shitholes. its just cold and robotized cruelty instead of just poor ignorant people who don't have the time or energy for empathy.

It's crazy how shit farming has become. Just less than 100 years ago, maybe even your grandparents generation, you could easily get well sourced food, or even just produce your own.
It astounds me how inefficient Americans are while still being obsessed with efficiency at the same time.
Like these fuckers will have a lawn and be paying Mexican immigrants tending to ornamental plants, but never once does it cross their mind to maybe grow some fucking food instead of shrubs and flowers.
As the cafo system has shown, chickens don't need much space. And a backyard with a modest coop would be absolute heaven to a chicken or 6 compared to a filthy, crammed barn. When the hens are at their peak laying you get an egg a day per bird, and the ladies are generally quiet. Chickens don't just eat grain and feed (both of which are dirt cheap) You can even feed them scraps from the kitchen.

People with more land can get larger animals like goats or hogs. Both which eat grass and garbage.

Idk. People are fucking stupid. Grow your own food or shut the fuck up and quit acting like eating plant trash is better for anyone or anything than animal trash.

Pic related: My American food animals.

>> No.14965638

>>14965616
>duck ted kaczynski

I agree with you idealistically, but realistically no buddy has time for what you're advocating. Most people are over-worked and over-stressed, now they have to raise a bunch of chickens and ducks, plus tend to their veggie gardens? I fully support my local famers market, and try to shop there as much as I can. But I'm not going to larp as a suburbanite farmer to take down evil food corp.

>> No.14965675

>>14965638
I mean, the people who genuinely don't have time for it because they are wage slaves who dug themselves into a deep debt hole because they were indoctrinated into a system that prioritizes heavy consumption and spending ridiculous amounts of money on shit they really don't need, really don't have the energy to tell others how to live their lives. They don't even have the energy to compain.
They usually just sit in their offices, eat their shitty doughnuts, and go home to a microwaved meal.
It's really sad. And if they have sold their freedom to the point where they can't even properly feed themselves then maybe they need to take a step back and ask themselves why.

But honestly, Idk why people think this shit is so time consuming. The ducks are way less work than a dog, they live outside and only really want food and water. You scoop their shit like one would scoop a litter box and then put that into a compost bucket along with your kitchen scraps and raked leaves and lawn clippings.
You have plenty of free time for a full time job and to even jack off on 4 chan.

It's fine if you want to take the path of least resistance. Just know that it comes with a cost. Everything does.

>> No.14965683

>>14953770
I'm lactose intolerant and still drink real milk, it's manlier and tasier taking lactase and enjoying my milk

>> No.14966553

>>14955143
Vegans hate bees so they don't care.

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>>14966553
Is vegan just a clever politically correct way of getting a person to label themselves as retarded?

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>>14965616


>Just less than 100 years ago, maybe even your grandparents generation, you could easily get well sourced food, or even just produce your own

Meat is a order of magnitude cheaper today than it ever has been in all of history. The notion that our ancestors were eating nothing but some sort of smörgåsbord of 100% organic free range meat/cheeses/etc is false, peasant food everywhere is just a million variations on bread/porridge/soup because that's all they could afford or find.

>> No.14967160

>>14953770
People enjoy paying premium prices for over processed crap instead of buying the cheaper, healthier, tastier, real deal. It's call mental illness.

>> No.14967755

>>14967139
>having peasant ancestry
not going to make it

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>>14967139
The problem is, that it's all context sensitive.

One group of people may have eaten little animal foods. But another group may have eaten mostly animal foods.

An oppressed Irish farmer who sold most of his crop to England lived off potatoes almost exclusively.

But the traditional diets of Mongolia or Northern Russia/Canada/Greenland would be almost exclusively meat/dairy.

Food in general is precious. And yes, meat today is just as artificially cheap as grains and other foods, but no one was a vegan.
Nobody.
Anywhere.

They would eat what they could.
I don't know why you are all of a sudden changing the goalposts and saying we should eat 100% animal products when I am speaking about food sovereignty.
But whatever. If you wanna depend 100% on shady mystery food that's on you.

>> No.14969791

seared bite

>> No.14969832

>>14968963
>An oppressed Irish farmer who sold most of his crop to England lived off potatoes almost exclusively.
the irish were forced to sell their crops off except potatoes by the british. it wasnt a choice and about half of all british land forces were stationed in ireland making sure the food was being shipped out. ireland was a net exporter of food against their will at bayonet point, so when the potato blight struck it was a disaster.

>> No.14970367

>>14957584
>It's why the usa cannot produce cheese worthy of human consumption.
https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/america-snubs-france-at-prestigious-world-cheese-awards/

>> No.14971130

>>14970367
absolutely btfoed euronigger

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>>14969832
Yeah I know this, this is why I called them oppressed. British people are fucking awful human beings.

>> No.14972559

If they try and take away milk from me I will become a milk based terrorist.