/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14878048]

Bros is it true?

[Anonymous No.14878059]

somewhat

[Anonymous No.14878080]

>>14878059

agreed somewhat, people need to eat way less non-fiber carbs like bread and pasta, cereals and oats, way less sugar or anything that mimic sugar like corn syrup and the like

if you're already a healthy weight then i wouldn't alter your diet, but if you're overweight, obese or have type 2 diabetes i would suggest going keto until your weight and insulin resistance is under control

[Anonymous No.14879564]

>>14878048
Yes, but I still need my rice.

[Anonymous No.14879580]

>>14878059
Wasn't the food pyramid updated like 15 years ago?

[Anonymous No.14879586]

(((perlmutter)))

grain tastes good, fuck off, I say this as a fellow Jew

[Anonymous No.14880064]

>>14879580
Sure, I was only 10 then. That's plenty of time to develop permanent diabetes though, right?

[Anonymous No.14880087]

>>14878048
>David perlmutter
Yeah no fuck off, kike

[Anonymous No.14880198]

isn't it weird how the civilizations with the highest IQs were built on grains though???

[Anonymous No.14880602]

>>14880198
Japan was built on fish

[Anonymous No.14880846]

>>14878048
I seriously don’t get how some people can eat carbs all day and not get pimples, I have to stay keto and it’s sucks. Fuck adult acne.

[Anonymous No.14880853]

>>14880602
sounds smelly

[Anonymous No.14880949]

>>14878059
>1,100 calories a day?! That's too much for my petite body!
If you retards knew how much a serving was you'd also know how retarded you look

[Anonymous No.14880963]

>>14878048

No. I was on carb-free diet for a while and it fucked up my sleep and brain function badly.

Carbs are good for you. Just don't eat shitloads of sugar or too much of white grains, especially if you're not physically active

[Anonymous No.14880971]

>>14878048
>(((Perlmutter)))
>(((Loberg)))

[Anonymous No.14881145]

>>14880602
>what is rice

[Anonymous No.14881152]

>>14880963
Your brain is probably shit even at its peak. OP is talking about actual humans.

[Anonymous No.14881154]

>>14880963
For how long exactly?
a week?

[Anonymous No.14881166]

>>14881145
a side dish

[Anonymous No.14881176]

>>14879580
And yet the original scam still has authority.

[Anonymous No.14881181]

>>14878048
>The surprising truth
>Perlmutter
>Oz

tryingtotrickmeagain.jpg

[Anonymous No.14881184]

>>14879580
They updated it like twice in the past 15 years

[Anonymous No.14881196]

>>14881184
Fruits are just worse vegetables and dairy is just worse meat. Why are they both still required in addition? BECAUSE PUBLISHED SCIENCE IS BULLSHIT WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[Anonymous No.14881306]

>>14881152
The wrathful cope of a ketonigger.

[Anonymous No.14881349]

>>14881196
>Fruits are just worse vegetables and dairy is just worse meat.
Fruit having sugar doesn't mean it's the same as drinking soda, and dairy protein is actually better than meat in some ways though limited by not having as much iron and things like that.

[Anonymous No.14881364]

>>14881154

3-4 months

[Anonymous No.14881381]

>>14881184
the new pyramid makes zero sense
i still have no idea what it's trying to say

[Anonymous No.14881420]

>perlmutter

[Anonymous No.14881438]

>>14881381
Its trying to say they're all equal in terms of fundamental nutritional value but each slice of the pyramid is bigger or smaller depending on the food group and what percentage your calories are supposed to come from. Idk why they chose to stick with the pyramid shape because pyramids imply that the base is the foundation with everything building on top of it while this newer iteration is basically a stupidly shaped pie chart.

The plate is actually the most current one iirc, and it depicts basically the same concept without shitting on the whole concept of a pyramid.

[Anonymous No.14881507]

>>14878048
>Burgers live on chemical sludge and fake sugar
>M-muh bread
kek

[Anonymous No.14881553]

>>14879586
>>14880087
>>14880971
How do you know he is jewish ?
I stopped gluten and now when I eat it again I fart A LOT.
I have been tricked !

[Anonymous No.14881602]

>>14881553
>I stopped gluten
You mean you stopped processed and refined carbohydrates

[Anonymous No.14881629]

ignore the pyramid. ignore keto ffs. follow the rules and you'll be fine. anything that makes your stomach hurt, squirt or make trumpet sounds you just cut out. don't do keto unless you want to gain it all back, you dont need no-carb/lo-carb you need fibrous carbs. the fiber tempers the rise of your blood glucose whereas processed carbs spike it, which if you shock your body with enough times over a long enough period you get beetus.
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20090323/7-rules-for-eating#1

[Anonymous No.14881643]

>>14878048
yes. Perlmutter is a genius.

[Anonymous No.14881682]

>>14878048
>Bros is it true?
no
glucose is great for you. fat is bad.
the food industry is obsessed with deciving people about the true nature of food. What they don't want is people eating starch they cook at home. like potatoes and bread and beans. this stuff is super cheap, extremely filling, and very good for you.

[Anonymous No.14881778]

>>14881682
grains, beans and potatoes are all nutrient rich and cheap, that's based.
>glucose..."great"
or necessary, whatever you prefer, but if ur not making a distinction between processed carbs (fiber removed) and unprocessed carbs then u dont really get it

[Anonymous No.14881827]

>>14881778
fiber has no nutritional value.

[Anonymous No.14881972]

>>14878059
I'm eating relatively low carb, I love having eggs, dairy, veg, and meat, cooked in a modest amount of animal fat. But I also include small amounts of grains like rice and potatoes, sometimes a bit of fermented oats. I try to include beans but I have trouble digesting them. I can do a bit of black beans but idk, kidney beans fucking destroy me.

[Anonymous No.14882663]

>>14881166
In Japan it's considered the main dish with miso. Side dishes are the proteins.

[Anonymous No.14882677]

no


>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.14882829]

>>14878048
The average american is a fat fuck that should be restricted carbs, yes. This doesn't apply to you if you spend 14 hours standing and doing manual labour all day because then you do use the carbs. If you're sedentary just do keto and all the weight and diabetes you got will literally melt away.

[Anonymous No.14882843]

>>14878048
No, just ban sugared soda.

Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.14882990]

>>14881166
Sushi, the national dish of Japan, translates to "vinegared rice"

[Anonymous No.14882996]

>>14882829
Or, whether you're active or sedentary, just eat healthier carbs. You don't get fat and diabetic eating lentils and sweet potatoes, and fatty keto foods don't become good for you by default just because soda and ice cream are bad

[Anonymous No.14883398]

>>14878048
Nah, it's sugar. Sugar causes insulin resistance and leptin/ghrelin production, making people hungrier and therefore fat. Japan and France eat tons of grains, and they're not fat–but they don't eat much sugar. The reason Keto works for so many people is that sugar is included as a "carb", but you don't need to go that far, just entirely remove refined sugar and any sort of fructose from your diet and you'll shed pounds as your appetite returns to normal. We're doping our foods with an appetite enhancing drug.

[Anonymous No.14883403]

>>14878048
If you aren't eating a carnivor diet by 2020, you might as well give up now

[Anonymous No.14883422]

>>14881629
shill

[Anonymous No.14883446]

lots of experts here, at least keto puts your body in a state where it is helping you along with losing weight,
>b-b-but muh tHeRmodynAmics
what's with you anti-keto shills? are you getting paid by big wheat or something.
>you'll just gain the weight back after
this applies to every single weight loss plan, if you don't make the correct changes for good, so stop targeting keto as if its the ONE diet that is going to make you gain weight back. you'll gain weight back regardless if you go back to eating like a fat fuck

[Anonymous No.14883581]

>>14883446
>at least keto puts your body in a state where it is helping you along with losing weight
Making you sick isn't helping you. Call it by its full name, ketosis. The "osis" tells you it's a disease; a metabolic disorder

[Anonymous No.14883589]

>>14883446
Successful diets work by changing how hungry you are, not how much you eat. Keto accomplishes this, but it's difficult to sustain. Cutting out just sugar is easier, and has the same effect. Sugar is an appetite enhancer. Carbs are satiating. One makes you hungrier, the other makes you full.

[Anonymous No.14883595]

>>14883581
Ketogenesis. The word for the function is used instead of the word for the disease because it isn't the disease.

[Anonymous No.14883618]

>His body can't handle fucking bread

then perish

[Anonymous No.14883625]

>>14883595
>it isn't the disease
It is, that's why you called it "a state [your body is put in]". It's a diseased state. It's not a normal function, it's what happens normally when you're starving to death, when you have untreated diabetes, when you vomit for long periods of time, when you've got severe alcoholism, etc. Ketogenesis leads to ketosis, which can lead to ketoacidosis in severe cases.

[Anonymous No.14883631]

>>14883618
Typical grain brain

[Anonymous No.14883658]

>>14883631
Munch my glutenous turds, nerd. Put them in a gluten-free rice wrap and go to town.

[Anonymous No.14883670]

I am 6’1. Used to weigh between 200 and 220 lbs from the time I was about 17 to 22. Then I stopped eating grains of any kind and my body weight stays between 160 and 170, no matter what.
I am 100% convinced that grains are really bad for you

[Anonymous No.14883679]

>>14883670
If someone did the same but cut out fat instead and ate more oats and rice, would that be proof of the opposite?

[Anonymous No.14883717]

>>14878048
Ah yeah another ketocuck

[Anonymous No.14883722]

>>14883670
>have a coffee and cigarette in the morning instead of normal breakfast
>weight goes down
This is good for me

[Anonymous No.14883733]

>>14878048
What veggie/fruit is good for adhd ? I’ve already stopped grain and milk except Greek yogurt. Also eat oats with water for breakfast

[Anonymous No.14883742]

>>14883625
Yes it is. We evolved to derive fast energy from fats in times of sparse carbohydrates. It's a very natural function. We also evolved to be smarter and more resilient during such periods, because those traits became more valuable in those periods, the trigger for this being the ketogenesis that circumstances would put us in.

[Anonymous No.14883753]

yes, refined sugar is literally poison and a lot of other carbs are quite bad for you.

[Anonymous No.14883762]

>>14883679
I don’t know, but I do think ethnonutrition is a field that needs more study, because it might be largely genetic.
For example, I might descend from people who survived for generations on meat and vegetables. Put a Chinese person whose descendants survived for generations on rice on the same diet as me and it might go straight to his thighs.

[Anonymous No.14883770]

>>14883762
It makes their women super busty, actually.

[Anonymous No.14883794]

>>14883742
>Yes it is.
It isn't normal, no. That's why you need "keto sticks" to monitor its development and eating a banana completely throws you out of it. The body rapidly reverts back to its default when even minimal carbohydrates are eaten.
>We evolved to derive fast energy from fats in times of sparse carbohydrates. It's a very natural function. We also evolved to be smarter and more resilient during such periods, because those traits became more valuable in those periods, the trigger for this being the ketogenesis that circumstances would put us in.
You say "we" but ketosis is a disease every living creature can develop. It's not something you evolve for, it's the side effect of not having enough glucose in your system to burn fats efficiently, which requires carbohydrate. Look up the Krebs Cycle. Not only is ketosis found in all animals during times of metabolic stress, but the more carnivorous an animal is, the more resistant to ketosis it is. A cat doesn't go into ketosis from eating an all meat diet, but if that cat gets very sick, it can develop ketosis as a side effect.

[Anonymous No.14883865]

>>14883589
that's bullshit. sugar is a carb. they both spike your blood sugar and make me hungry

[Anonymous No.14883884]

>>14878059
were they trying to malnourish our brains with this shit? that amount of grains is really fucked, and you need way more protein than that. my parents never listened to it anyways, ate eggs everyday for breakfast instead of some sugar filled cereal.

i remember learning nutrition in elementary and they asked us what we should eat to prepare for a day full of activities and i said eggs, i was told i was wrong and a plate of spaghetti was more appropriate

[Anonymous No.14883887]

>>14883865
Sugar and fiber are both carbohydrates. They don't both "spike your blood sugar and make you hungry"

[Anonymous No.14883893]

>>14883884
>that amount of grains is really fucked
What amount do you think that corresponds to? It's less than most of the world eats

[Anonymous No.14883918]

Has anyone actually read the book? It seems people are responding to some shit about grains making you fat instead of sugar, when it seems like the book is about the effect of grains on the brain?
I dunno I haven't read it

[Anonymous No.14883930]

>>14883893
shouldnt eat all those grains

[Anonymous No.14883933]

>>14883918
The book is made-up bullshit from a known charlatan
https://www.thecut.com/2015/06/problem-with-the-grain-brain-doctor.html

[Anonymous No.14883944]

>>14883930
Answer the question. What amount do you think "6-11" servings corresponds to?

[Anonymous No.14883961]

>>14883670
Perhaps I am just a mutant but I always had a liking towards peanut butter and strawberry preserve sandwiches and the most I ever weighed was in the mid 170’s when I was 14. Granted I do try to stay at least moderately active and I tended to do odd jobs and the like as well as work a relatively physical job now, but even then I was always lean. Granted I stayed far away from that Wonderbread kind of shit. IMO what really does it in is how much sugary sodas and those abominations called sweet teas people always gulp down, hell even a regular bottle of Gatorade or Powerade is beyond loaded with the stuff. People in the USSR consumed a lot more grains than Americans (according to the CIA in 1983 at least) and there was never something remotely resembling the obesity or weight/food related health issues we have today.
>inb4 it cuz der no füd
>>14883884
>plate of spaghetti is a better breakfast than eggs
Maybe its because I was born and raised in good ‘ol Pittsburgh/Appalachia but I have never once actually unironically heard a teacher say that spaghetti for breakfast is better than eggs. Where the fuck are you guys at where poor little souls hear that nonsense?

[Anonymous No.14883971]

>>14883753
How is it poison?

[Anonymous No.14884039]

>>14878048
I have an auto-immune disorder, so unfortunately if I want to keep any bit of my thyroid, I have to go that route.

[Anonymous No.14884040]

>>14881196
Helloooo Breitbart. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14884282]

>>14883884
>were they trying to malnourish our brains with this shit?
no they were just listening to the agriculture industry and they said we need to sell more grains

[Anonymous No.14884308]

>>14884282
Big Meat and Big Dairy absolutely dwarf the influence of Big Grain

[Anonymous No.14885483]

>>14879580
nutrition science is infamously one of the least understood scientific field because it directly relies on the completion of the medical and biochemical fields of study

[Anonymous No.14885502]

>>14883961
texas

[Anonymous No.14885509]

>>14878059
>>14880971
>>14881349
>>14882677
I made an agriculture/USDA/conspiracy thread on /x/ if you'd guys like to contribute I'd appreciate it >>>/x/26420040

[Anonymous No.14885517]

>>14883884
>were they trying to malnourish our brains with this shit? that amount of grains is really fucked, and you need way more protein than that.
you should understand that 90% of what we eat comes from cultural and historical origins that were simply "good enough" instead of being metabolically optimal. The reason carbs from plant grains are so predominant across different cultures is because plant grain can feed everybody and it was the most efficient way of getting food to large civilizations. Even just 60 years ago millions died from famine in some parts of the world (looking at you commies). Hell, some people in africa today are still experiencing famine. Min-maxxing for optimal health/growth is much easier when everybody is already fed

[Anonymous No.14885520]

>>14878080
this is unironically the best post but it didn't get recognition because you said "keto"
Just wanted to let you know I see you bro

[Anonymous No.14885533]

>>14885517
Good point, but it doesn't explain the fact that virtually all research on whole grains, beans, fruits, etc show health benefits. They're practical and healthy

[Anonymous No.14885546]

>>14883794
>It's a disease that's why it has all these benefits and can even reverse type 2 diabetes
Okay bro I can agree with it not being the normal body state, but you're reaching just to back your point

[Anonymous No.14885571]

>>14883446
Keto is highly unrealistic for a permanent change in your life. Simply eating less is far easier a goal tham never eating carbs ever ahain your whole life

[Anonymous No.14885585]

>>14885546
You've been misled by blogs. There's nothing that suggests keto can "reverse type 2 diabetes." You might be led to believe such things if you're not well familiar with nutrition science and a blog referenced a study where people on a keto diet lost weight and saw some improvement in glucose control, not understanding that weight loss by any means would show improvements in a number of metabolic markers.

[Anonymous No.14885600]

>>14881166
incredibly wrong
you ever been to japan bro? when you order dinner they will sometimes just ask you how much rice you want with no difference in price (order in 100 gram increments) because they expect that to be the main thing you fill up on

nigga I was in a ramen shop and I'm watching a dude order a bowl of rice and pour the rice into the ramen
theres already noodles in there!

[Anonymous No.14887113]

>>14884308
That's not actually true.

[Anonymous No.14887117]

>>14883625
That would make newborn babies diseased too as they only survive on milk.

[Anonymous No.14887129]

>>14885533
So what about Hong Kong then? They all a lot of meet, red meat at that, and live as long as the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.14887240]

>>14887129
Asians don't eat red meat. They like it grey.

[Anonymous No.14887260]

>>14878048
If it was true they'd have an article in a scientific journal. Instead they're peddling a book that promises to fix all of your problems by "making this one simple change". Throwing out all your bread and eating only cabbages harvested by left-handed monks during periods when Venus is in retrograde will not magically make you stop being a fat, stupid, fuckwit.

[Anonymous No.14887300]

>>14884308
That's isnt true in the absolute slightest. Big grain raped meat and dairy or have you not noticed how corn is in everything.

[Anonymous No.14888232]

>>14887300
Corn being a useful product doesn't mean Big Grain is supremely powerful. Big Grain works for Big Meat.

[Anonymous No.14888243]

>>14887300
> The US grain farming industry includes about 350,000 farms with combined annual grain revenue of about $65 billion
>>In 2016, the US meat and poultry industry accounted for $1.02 trillion in total economic output, representing 5.6% of US GDP.

[Anonymous No.14888430]

>>14888243
>comparing revenue with "total economic output"
very sly, too bad i'm not retardedu

[Anonymous No.14888757]

>>14878048
All ketards are DYELS and their opinions are meaningless. Any semi-intense lifestyle with active exercise needs to be supplanted with CARBS or as i like to call it GAINS FUEL.

[Anonymous No.14888824]

I took a biochemistry based nutrition class (was a biochem major) once and the prof went on about how going into ketosis is actually bad for your brain.
also coffee is not good for you, contrary to popular /ck/ posts though it seems studies nowadays lean towards 1-2 cups actually being beneficial to you

[Anonymous No.14888964]

Other than too much sugar and soi flour bread, the other thing is that a lot of westerners dont bother consuming foods that are very nutritious or great for gut flora like liver or fermented foods. If they have at least that in their diet and consume sweet potato/white rice/fruit as their needed energy, theyd be good unless theyre severely diabetic

[Anonymous No.14889035]

>>14881827
It has value for gut flora and slowing down the release of glucose into the blood stream.

[Anonymous No.14889048]

>>14879580
Yes, its a food plate now. Stresses portion control

[Anonymous No.14889090]

>Eat bread everyday
>Lifelong migraines everyday, no meds help whatsoever
>Try keto
>No migraines
>Ohgodimfree.exe
>Have to come off keto because too expensive
>Only gluten-free bread left on the shelves at the store
>Whatever
>Eat a sandwich and chocolate when I get back, brace for migraine
>No migraine
>Niggerwhat
>Continue eating gluten-free bread and shitloads of sweets to try to trigger migraine
>Finally eat normal bread
>Pre-drome in 2 hours, attack phase within 4 hours
>Tfw a lifetime of pain could've been avoided if I knew

I really thought gluten-free was just a meme for normies.

[Anonymous No.14889127]

>>14888824
>also coffee is not good for you
Is that why it has been associated with lower incidence of all-cause mortality? Retard.

[Anonymous No.14889143]

>>14888824
>Two 2013 reviews considered the effects of coffee on various aspects of health, concluding that coffeeconsumption is associated with reduced mortality risk4,5.
>Additionally, two 2014 papers suggested that there was no association between coffee intake and an increase in all-cause mortality6,7. One concluded that an inverse association was observed that was similar in men and women, but varied by location with a stronger association observed in Europe and Japan when compared to the USA7.
>Two studies considered associations at specific intakes of coffee. A large prospective study of 90,317 US adults concluded that coffee drinkers had lower risk ratios for overall mortality, and the risk was reduced with increasing cups of coffee, up to 4-5 cups a day. Similar findings were observed for both decaffeinated and caffeinated coffee8. A further review suggested that the largest risk reduction for various health outcomes was observed at 3-4 cups of coffee per day9.

[Anonymous No.14889148]

>>14888824
>A 2016 review of over 95,000 individuals suggested that, observationally, coffee intake is associated with a U-shaped lower risk of cardiovascular disease and all-causemortality10.
>Data from a 2017 study of over 500,000 participants found a significant association between a higher coffee consumption (calculated as more than 3 cups per day with 1 cup equal to 237ml) and a lower risk of all-cause mortality. The strongest associations were observed with digestive disease mortality, mainly due to the lower risk of dying from liver disease in both men and women1.
>A population based cohort study, using data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), concluded that a moderate caffeine intake was associated with a decreased risk of all-cause mortality, regardless of the presence or absence of coffee consumption11.

[Anonymous No.14889150]

>>14888824
>Research from the Multiethnic Cohort Study concluded that coffee consumption was associated with lower total mortality after adjustment for smoking and other potential confounders, with similar trends seen for both caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee intake. Significant inverse associations were observed in four ethnic groups: African-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Latinos, and Caucasians, however the association in Native-Hawaiians did not reach statistical significance12.
>A 2018 population study of over 120,000 adults considered the effect of coffee consumption, tea consumption, and the substitution of coffee for tea on mortality risk13. A higher coffee intake was significantly, non-linearly related to lower overall and cause-specific mortality in women. The authors suggested that for men, compared to exclusive coffee drinkers, those drinking 30-50% tea showed the lowest mortality risk, and any tea drinking resulted in a greater reduced risk than coffee drinking exclusively. For women, those who drank coffee exclusively, or up to 40% tea had the lowest mortality, but those drinking higher percentages of tea were at increased mortality risk compared to exclusive coffee drinkers13.
https://www.coffeeandhealth.org/topic-overview/all-cause-mortality/#:~:text=Data%20from%20a%202017%20study,risk%20of%20all%2Dcause%20mortality.

[Anonymous No.14889157]

>>14889127
read the last part of my post. I agree with you

[Anonymous No.14889169]

>>14883971
https://medium.com/@drjasonfung/the-deadly-effects-of-fructose-b4d0128f3b39

[Anonymous No.14889181]

>>14878048
Literally Who, MD
[Food] Bad: How Literally Every Illness In The World Is To Blame On [Food]
Winner of latest health meme award

[Anonymous No.14889313]

>>14889169
>muh sugar causes diabetes meme
Dropped the article there.

[Anonymous No.14889408]

>>14889313
Even /ck/ still fully believes in the meme
Its sad

[Anonymous No.14889439]

>>14889408
It’s not a meme, grain and sugar make you diabetic.

People are cutting down on both and industry shills are absolutely seething about it.

[Anonymous No.14889467]

>>14889439
correlation != causation
people consuming a diet high in sugar often become diabetic, because people consuming a diet high in sugar are often obese.
if you come up with low carb diet that reliably gets people as fat as simple carb diets do, then they're equally likely to develop diabetes.
a weak willed lardass that switches from a high carb junk food diet to a low carb diet, believing that low carb alone is already the solution to his problems will find greasy low carb junk food.

[Anonymous No.14889471]

>>14889439
Go ahead and post a study proving it, fattie.

[Anonymous No.14889496]

>>14889035
>slowing down the release of glucose into the blood stream.
that's bad.
you want to glucose to enter the bloodstream quickly so that you feel satisfied more quickly and cease eating!

[Anonymous No.14890377]

>>14889090
gluten is somewhat more inflammatory for everyone at baseline, it's celiacs who can't tolerate even a little bit of it. people also don't bother fermenting grains anymore to soften the inflammation

[Anonymous No.14890397]

>>14890377
fat is a major inflammatory. if I eat too much fat, all kinds of weird shit happens to me, tendonitis, bursitis, sore knuckles and wrists... fat is deadly.

[Anonymous No.14890407]

>>14890397
well it's not on me if you want rabbit starvation so idk why you're replying to me

[Anonymous No.14890800]

>>14890397
sure it is

[Anonymous No.14891284]

>>14888430
It's the same thing. Now you know.

[Anonymous No.14891394]

>>14878048
>Dr. Oz endorsed book
Ask any nutritionist:
Complex carbs or carbs in general is how we get energy.
It's how our bodies are made. They're made to receive carbohydrates as energy.
It has a back up system just incase if carbohydrates run short.
It starts breaking down proteins which provide a less efficient amount of energy. Same with fats.
The problem arises when you have empty calories or abnormal amounts of carbohydrates that's consumed.

TL;DR: keep everything in moderation, there's nothing wrong in eating refined sugars but too much of a good thing almost always leads to bad results.

[Anonymous No.14891592]

>>14881184
how convenient they update it to not offend a single industry. scientists and agencies are cucks to politics, always remember that.

[Anonymous No.14891601]

>>14891592
Whew. Somebody's coming down with a serious case of the crazies.

[Anonymous No.14891619]

>>14891601
t. redditor that "believes in science"

[Anonymous No.14891653]

>>14881381
I'll put it to you in layman's terms
>Meat bad
>Dairy bad
>Eat nothing but sugar and antinutrients slave

[Anonymous No.14891664]

>>14881507
White bread is healthier then any other kind of bread because unprocessed grain is less digestible and will cause disturbance to your gut
All bread is bad for you but american white bread is literally the healthiest.

[Anonymous No.14891734]

>>14888824
Your super wrong on ketosis but your correct on the coffee.
Coffee will Destroy your body after so many years of using it.

[Anonymous No.14891744]

>>14889150
>>14889148
>>14889143
>correlations
Who cares. The explanation could be as simple as "those with jobs drink more coffee" paired with the well known fact that people with jobs live longer.

[Anonymous No.14891749]

>>14878059
>>14878048
havent we been eating a primarily grain diet for the last 5000 years or so?

[Anonymous No.14891764]

>>14891653
>the only foods are meat, dairy, and sugar
This is the root cause of the arguments about carbs vs fat based diets.The average American diet is so bad that the only foods they even know exist are bacon, cheese, and soda, so they look at the 3 foods they eat and go "the soda can't be good for me, that means the bacon and cheese is good by default"

[Anonymous No.14891775]

>>14891749
And our brain's have gotten significantly smaller in that time period.

[Anonymous No.14891784]

>>14891775
But more efficient

[Anonymous No.14891789]

>>14891775
ok. im just saying, if we are not exploded jn the past 5000 years, it’s probably not that bad.

of course you can go anprime level agriculture was a mistake, but i think thats more a philosophical position.

[Anonymous No.14891802]

>>14891764
Wrong I'm not american and I eat all kinds of different animal products.
Most plant foods are literally just fiber sugar and antinutrients and nothing more there's no nutritional value whatsoever it's mental illness to eat a diet based around plants.

[Anonymous No.14891809]

>>14891802
>eating vegetables is a mental illness. just tendies for me :)

[Anonymous No.14891816]

>>14891809
Nobody lives on “vegetables” not even vegans. Beans, tubers? Yeah.

[Anonymous No.14891817]

>>14891764
>assumes everyone is american
why do Americans do this?

[Anonymous No.14891844]

>>14891817
Don't non-Americans have their own websites?

[Anonymous No.14891854]

>>14891844
>Don't non-Americans have their own websites?
why do americans do this?

[Anonymous No.14891870]

>>14878059

this is supposed to be a basic guide for a time when people didnt have as muc, your supposed to supplement ththe harder to get items with cheaper and more plentiful ones.

[Anonymous No.14891876]

>>14882663
And that's why the japs are dyel.

[Anonymous No.14892498]

>>14891749
Mongol soldiers (mostly dairy and meat based) are recorded to have been taller and stronger than chinese foot soldiers

[Anonymous No.14892508]

>>14892498
>Mongol soldiers
they were cannibals.

[Anonymous No.14892596]

>>14891734
>Coffee will Destroy your body after so many years of using it.
You're a clueless retard.

[Anonymous No.14892611]

>>14892508
I think you have that reversed considering china's long history of medical cannibalism

[Anonymous No.14892614]

>>14891744
>le correlation not causation xd
Cope harder.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31055709/
>Coffee consumption has been associated with decreased mortality in previous studies. As aging, obesity, and lifestyle factors affect the risk of mortality, the association between coffee and mortality needs to be examined in various subpopulations by characteristics of subjects. To quantitatively assess this association, we conducted an updated meta-analysis including stratified analyses by potential modifiers. We searched in the PubMed and Web of Science databases through March 8, 2019, and conducted meta-analysis including linear and non-linear dose-response analyses. We identified 40 studies including 3,852,651 subjects and 450,256 all-cause and cause-specific deaths. Non-linear inverse associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all-causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and cancers were found. The lowest relative risk (RR) was at intakes of 3.5 cups/day for all-cause mortality (RR = 0.85, 95% CI 0.82-0.89), 2.5 cups/day for CVD mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI 0.80-0.87), and 2 cups/day for cancer mortality (RR = 0.96, 95% CI 0.94-0.99), while additional intakes were not associated with further lower mortality. An inverse association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was maintained irrespective of age, overweight status, alcohol drinking, smoking status, and caffeine content of coffee.

[Anonymous No.14892632]

>>14891744
Wow, scientists btfo!!1 surely they didn't think of potential confounders until some retard on 4chan had his gotcha moment

[Anonymous No.14892636]

>>14891734
>Coffee will Destroy your body after so many years of using it.
According to whom?

[Anonymous No.14892661]

>>14892498
Chinese are taller than Mongols and have a higher life expectancy.

[Anonymous No.14892665]

>>14891653
Nobody is taking your bacon away, you lardass..

[Anonymous No.14892827]

>>14892661
Yeah, theyre obviously much richer today than mongolians

[Anonymous No.14893402]

>>14892665
>eating fat makes you fat

[Anonymous No.14893413]

>>14892665
Yes they are. The greater the Muslim population grows, the lower the demand for pig products, until it becomes unprofitable. All the non-halal butchers have already been phased out.

[Anonymous No.14893415]

>>14892665
Vegan cuck detected...

[Anonymous No.14893446]

I'm underweight and eat a ton of carbs. I also eat lots of vegetables and chicken thighs. Some days I don't eat because I'm too lazy and moved into a house with a shared kitchen. I exercise ~40 minutes a week plus daily cycling (max 5k). Will I be okay or have I become retarded without realizing it? I mostly eat pasta/rice, onions/peppers and chicken thighs. My work is purely mental and I get it done.

[Anonymous No.14893459]

>>14893402
Never said it does.

>>14893415
Not being scared of carbohydrates does not entail not eating meat, fat retard.

[Anonymous No.14893465]

>>14891592
Correct

[Anonymous No.14895403]

Bump

[Anonymous No.14895502]

>>14881184
Meat "and" beans?

[Anonymous No.14895515]

>>14883398
This.

[Anonymous No.14895561]

>>14895403
don't bump it.
its total bro-science bullshit
sage

[Anonymous No.14896309]

>>14891876
But don’t they have a greater life expectancy than other countries who consume more protein?

[Anonymous No.14896395]

>>14883670
Even quinoa?

[Anonymous No.14896447]

>>14883398
>Sugar causes insulin resistance
Source?

[Anonymous No.14896476]

>>14878048

>Name is Dr. Peanutbutter
>Is anti-bread

I think he just got bullied a lot.

[Anonymous No.14896498]

>>14883670
I eat grains all the time and I've never been fat in my life...

[Anonymous No.14896505]

>>14896498
i too am capable of lying on the internet in order to convince people i'm not fat and my diet isn't shit.

[Anonymous No.14896519]

>>14896505
Dude people have eaten grains for thousands of years and obesity has just been a problem since the late 20th century. Obviously it isn't the grains themselves but the abundance of processed food to shove into your fat fucking mouths. People with your attitude are the type who eat an entire loaded pizza + the cinnammon sticks by themself and then blame their fatness on "eating bread"

[Anonymous No.14896526]

>>14896505
Do people like you really just never consider eating less? Its always some fad diet with you fucks
You can eat literally anything you want and not get fat, so long as you dont be a glutton and over eat

[Anonymous No.14896535]

>>14896505
Not him but I'm the same way. I eat like 8 bread rolls a week and that's just the start of it. Just barely above underweight on the bmi scale. Gut health is important too. Take a pro biotic and drink Kefir or something.

[Anonymous No.14896540]

>>14896505

I eat grains every day and I'm close to being underweight. Calories matter for weight. Energy in energy out. Everything else is nonsense. Just stop eating dumb (read: American) amounts you fucking troglodytes.

[Anonymous No.14896544]

>>14895561
I bumped it because I'm waiting for the proof that "Coffee will Destroy your body after so many years of using it".

[Anonymous No.14896563]

>>14883770
This statement made me rock hard for some reason

[Anonymous No.14896615]

>>14896505

Retarded American

[Anonymous No.14896624]

>>14896519
>>14896526
>>14896535
>>14896540
>>14896615
post pic of yourself weighing yourself if you're not a big pussy

[Anonymous No.14896646]

>>14896624
Your turn fatty

[Anonymous No.14896651]

>>14896624

[Anonymous No.14896681]

>>14896624

I don't even own a scale that's how unconcerned I am with my weight.

[Anonymous No.14896684]

>>14896646
>>14896651
i must have ended up on /lgbt/ with all these twinks posting their ed progress

[Anonymous No.14897513]

>>14878048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVj5oxduq58

[Anonymous No.14898405]

probably

but it wont stop me eating them LMAO

[Anonymous No.14898467]

>>14878048
the problem is with eating fats and grains at the same time, not just grains, most people get too much fat in their diet, like if you eat a slice of toast with butter theres almost as many calories comming from the butter than is from the toast, so most of the foods people think of as "high carb" arn't actually that high in carbs, it also matters the source of the carb in nature most carbs come with fiber which inhibits the insulin spike that you'd get from white pasta/bread, if you eating lots of carbs from a good source and keep fats low (like <10-15% of calories) then its pretty difficult to gain weight from grains, ive lost plenty of weight eating just grains and ive lost lots of weight on keto, I just choose grains because I like them more and im not constipated lol

[Anonymous No.14898485]

>>14878048
Sugar is fuel

[Anonymous No.14898492]

>>14896684
>g-gay
Fatty cope.

[Anonymous No.14900395]

>>14889467
>people consuming a diet high in sugar often become diabetic, because people consuming a diet high in sugar are often obese.
The elephant in the room about this is that obesity causes diabetes for the same reason a high fat (particularly saturated) diet does. Insulin can't work efficiently with globs of fat floating around in transport in your bloodstream. The less efficient insulin is, the more your body makes to try to compensate.

People think if they cut out sugar and eat nothing but fat, they'll get better at digesting carbs somehow. If they lose weight, they'll probably see some improvement since you can't eat as much fat as your body can store, but there are people who go from normal to diabetic after eating keto for a while because all the saturated fat ruins their insulin receptors