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What country makes the best wines?
Spoiler:
1. Italy
2. France
3. Cali

>> No.14650247

>>14650182
>1. Italy
>2. Spain
>3. Chile
Cali wine is dogshit.

>> No.14650250

>>14650182
Your mom

>> No.14650278

>>14650182
Portugal
Portugal
Portugal
Portugal
Portugal
They spits hot fire

>> No.14650287

>>14650278
Homosexual detected

>> No.14650288

England, at least on this board, makes the best whine.

>> No.14650303

>>14650287
Portugal is the straightest nation on earth. Their women are all thicc and their men are high test and they conquered every continent by laying their seed in the native women.

>> No.14650314

>>14650303
...said no one ever but you

>> No.14650320

>>14650247
Cali wine is never dogshit as long as it doesn't come out from Modesto or fucking Lodi
Buy from an actual winery.

>> No.14650357

SPAIN

>> No.14650366

>>14650303
Portugal is the second gayest country behind Taiwan.

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>>14650320
>muh oak
>muh mega purple
>muh judgment of paris
no thanks

>> No.14650381

>>14650357
>>14650247
spain makes some crappy wine but unlike c*lifornia they actually have laws so you can just look at the bottle and it's not 100% lies enabled by corrupt regulators

finding good spanish wine is just a question of knowing how to read a label

>> No.14650424
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14650424

>>14650381
What do you look for on the label? Even cheap Spanish rioja tastes good to me. One of my favorite brands is only $10 a bottle.

>> No.14650430

>>14650182
kazakhstan

>> No.14650449

>>14650182
Georgia. Their reds are especially good.

>> No.14650454

>>14650182
winefags are almost as bad as whiskyfags

>> No.14650473

>>14650454
I literally just pretend to know about wine on the internet and keep a few unopened bottles at my house to look richer and more cultured than I actually am lmao

>> No.14650533

>>14650424
>Only $10
A bottle like that in Spain or Italy is like 3

>> No.14650581

>>14650533
Well, yeah because we have to import it. Tastes good though.

>> No.14651098

>>14650314
>>14650366
Seething rape babies of the Portuguese bvll

>> No.14651117

It's not unusual for two people to share a bottle of wine, but when you have a third guest one bottle might not be enough anymore.

Let's say we're having a wine party where every guest drinks the same amount of wine. Now suppose as a rule that for any wine party we need exactly one less bottles of wine than the number of guests. Notice that for larger and larger numbers of guests, the amount of wine per guest approaches one bottle (750 ml). In fact, there is some finite number of guests where the amount of wine each person gets is, in human terms, imperceptibly different than a full bottle of wine.

But how can that be when we KNOW we bought exactly one less bottle than the number of guests at our party?

Now take this a step further. What if we buy two less bottles than the number of guests? Three less? It seems like for any finite number of bottles less than the number of guests at your party, there is some number of guests you can invite where each one gets arbitrarily close to 750 ml.

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>>14651117
Good advice.

>> No.14651152

>>14651117
welcome to the concept of limits, this is explored in differential calculus

>> No.14651176

>>14650182
1. Spain
2. Portugal
3. Italy
4. France
5. Chile

>> No.14651195

>>14651152
But where did the extra wine come from?

>> No.14651247

>>14651195
France, if you choose wisely.

>> No.14651289

>>14651176
This anon knows

>> No.14651306

>>14651195
It's just another way of explaining fractional relationships. It's really not that hard to figure out. Since your rule of thumb wasn't precisely exact to begin with the extra wine was always there it's just that it was small enough that you would in a casual social situation top off one person's glass to kill the bottle.

>> No.14651332

>>14650182
Spoiler: Portugal

>> No.14651342
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14651342

>>14650375
Be careful. The janjan likes to ban people for mentioning cali mega purple wines.

>> No.14651346

Georgian wine is the best btw

>> No.14651365

>>14650182
>Cali is a country
Burger education everyone.

>> No.14651381

>>14651342
Lol. I'm a califag and I steer clear of any big label wines from here. I buy from wineries I go to, super niche family places in regions nobody from here would have heard of so I never recommend wines from here unless it's a person who is a big time wine enthusiast on the hunt for super out of the way unknown labels.

>> No.14651386

>>14651365
It would be the number 4 economy in the world if it was independent.

>> No.14651396

>>14651386
>if

>> No.14651405

>>14651396
well, gringos don't like California, so Californians might call themselves a different country, even if you seethe.

>> No.14651421

>>14651405
Certain Californians seethe just as much when their brethren don't want to succeed when the wrong person got elected.

>> No.14651425

>>14651386
Let's see how that holds up once Covid has finished its rampage.

>> No.14651434

>>14650182
muscadine wines from Virginia/North Carolina are gravely underrated

>> No.14651450
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>>14651421
have you ever visited /pol/?... They think California is the root of all evil in America and when Californians try to migrate to different states, they are treated worst than a leper. I have lived in California since I'm a beaner, and let me tell you, nothing represents better America than California or New York, good or bad, is where the culture is at

>> No.14651458

1- Italy
2- Portugal
3- Argentina
4- Spain
5- France

>> No.14651471

>>14651450
Yeah, my city is universally reviled on /pol/ too despite being the most culturally relevant city in the country.

But it's also a similar thing, those that are hated by /pol/ actually hate most of the rest of my countrymen, they just won't openly say it.

>> No.14651491

>>14651425
imagine the other irrelevant states. I can see the meme:
>irrelevant state that thought was already irrelevant, becomes more irrelevant
This also applies for countries like Canada

>> No.14651495

>>14650320
I've drank from Cali wineries... they were shit. Inb4 "lol u just went to trash wineries". Cali wine is and always will be shit. Simple as.

>> No.14651519

>>14651471
It's obvious.
You go to a cosmopolitan city and then to a ranch, the newcomers won't like their way of thinking and the natives won't like the newcomers for that.

>> No.14651520

>>14650182
chile

>> No.14651522

>it's another dunning-kruger victim thread thinly veiled by snobbery

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>>14651520
this.
In Mexico we have a full aisle from Chile's wine

>> No.14651970

>>14651522
>t. tastelet

>> No.14652014

>>14650278
whats a good portuguese wine youd recommend that isnt expensive?

>> No.14652203

>>14650182
The $7 Costco wine is the best desu wherever they get theirs from. Cheap yet good

>> No.14653029

>>14652014
Vinho Verde. You can get them cheap and they're still decent or spring for a little more and they're excellent. A lightly sparkling white wine that's dry, tart, and fruit forward with apple and pear notes

>> No.14654011

Why is France so low on all these lists? Genuinely curious

>> No.14654016

>>14653029
No thanks I don't want a fruity, dry fart wine

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>>14650473
hmm yes yes this red wine does taste kind of grapey indeed yes.

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14654041

>>14650182
I met a guy at a bar that is working to bring washington and california wines into Asia and he said that the japanese and koreans are really starting to develop a taste for american wines, especially from central WA/palouse winery's. but dont take it from me.

>> No.14654128

>>14650182
Objectively
>Italy
>California
>Portugal
any other answer/ordering reeks of low class poorfagdom

>> No.14654132

>>14654128
France is the most expensive country for wine on average in the world, dumbass.

>> No.14654181

>>14654041
WA here, I generally like the wine from around here but I'm no expert. I feel like your impression of an area's output depends on what you prefer in a wine more than anything. Unless you're a dedicated sommelier you probably only know your own taste.

>> No.14654187

>>14650182
I like Spainish and Argentinian wines. Some Italian ones are wonderful, too.

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>>14654181
north Idaho myself, but for sure. personally I dont hate wine but I also dont go out of my way to buy it so I cant really say anything about it. it was interesting listening to him though.

>> No.14654222

>>14651386
It would be #4 for a month, then collapse under it's own weight.

>> No.14654223

>>14654132
>thinks wine being expensive makes it better
yea you're definitely a poorfag

>> No.14654246

>>14654223
The point is that you can't afford most of it if you're a poorfag.

>> No.14654340

>>14650182
Australia

>> No.14654440

I've got a nice recipe for a cherry wine.

>> No.14654558

>>14650182
You don't care who makes the best wine, you care who makes the best wine under $20. At which point all 3 of those fall into the N/A category.

>> No.14654576

>>14654558
I am Italian tho, so I can drink great wine under 20

>> No.14654589

>>14654558
There are definitely still bargains to be found from Italy under $20.

>> No.14654633

in my uneducated opinion:
italy is hit or miss, but i am one of those obnoxious italian-americans, so i cope that it's better than it really is
i am unimpressed with french wine
california wine is fine
australian wine is dogshit
any wine from anywhere else in america besides ca is dogshit
south african wine is pretty good
portuguese wine is fine
i have not had spanish wine

>> No.14654638

>>14654589
Perhaps if your're >>14654576 and aren't paying any sort of import cost. But I haven't seen much any good cheap Italian wine at all.
Whereas, to be fair, I have seen decent cheap rose out of France.

>> No.14654644

>>14651450
>have you ever visited /pol/?
unfortunately

>> No.14654648

>>14654633
>australian wine is dogshit
What are you drinking?

>> No.14654668

>>14654638
I'm from Australia and I have definitely had some relatively good Italian wine for >$27 AUD (equivalent of $20 USD).

>> No.14654670

>>14654668
You used the wrong <

>> No.14654672

>>14654670
Whoops, my bad!

>> No.14654691

>>14654668
Im Australian too. Recommendations?

>> No.14654715

>>14654691
A bullet.

>> No.14654733

>>14654715
Before or after the recent abv change?

>> No.14654734

>>14654668
Post them then.

>> No.14654747

>>14650454
>almost as bad as whiskyfags

We will never be as bad. Wine culture is a culture that prides itself on smelling its own ass and taking about how unique the aroma is. Whiskey culture stretches from bourbon to scotch and has all kinds of people participating in it. Get fuckt and wait til you’re old enough to buy a bottle yourself, then maybe I’ll listen to your opinion. Until then keep enjoying the wine coolers your older brother buys for you.

>> No.14654750

1. France
2. Italy
3. Portugal
4. Spain

New world wine is usually shit though occasionally there's something decent from Chile or New Zealand. Bordeaux and California are shit styles for chinks.

>> No.14654755

>>14650182
Portugal
The wine is called 'trinca bulotas'

>> No.14654759

>>14650278
Youre right

>> No.14654780

>>14653029
>>14652014

White,
Casal Garcia
Herdade do white. All their wines are exceptional.

Red,
Again, try trinca bulotas. Blew my mind.
Chamine red is a close second

>> No.14654781

>>14654780
* herdade do peso
* chaminé

Sorry, hungover

>> No.14654799

>>14654747

>Wine culture is a culture that prides itself on smelling its own ass and taking about how unique the aroma is.

Wine can be as high or low culture as you like. Personally I don't go for that high class shit, it's all about the product for me. It helps I get my wine for free as I'm in the industry.

Most boxed wine is acceptable after it has been decanted. Cheap as fuck too.

The more expensive wines do have their qualities but as a question of value, they aren't worthwhile IMO. It's more a question of status when you're in a group setting.

Blind tastings frequently show that wine journalists and the like can't tell the difference either.

Drink what you like.

>> No.14654815

>>14650182
Germany

>> No.14654834

>>14650320
Fucking bizarre seeing next door neighbor town mentioned on 4chin. I'm from Turlock

>> No.14654839

>>14654799
It's more correct to say that there's more difference between a 2€ and a 20€ wine, than a 20€ and 200€ wine

>> No.14654862

>>14651450
>California is amazing
>but I need to flee

I'm not even a poltard, but do not even understand the idiocy of your own statement? Fucking Californians are so stupid and up their own asses about their self importance.

>> No.14654908

>>14654691
>>14654734
You can get decent Catarrato, Montepulciano, Pecorino, Primitivo, Langhe rosso and Chianti for under $20.

>> No.14654911

>>14654799
>Most boxed wine is acceptable after it has been decanted
What a ridiculous statement.

Good job trying to sound credible though.

>> No.14655096

>>14654834
I'm sorry to hear that

>> No.14655944

>>14650182
Moldova is at least 4 if not 3.

>> No.14655952

>>14651450
Looks comfy desu

>> No.14655976

>>14651495
This, but the opposite. Simple as.

>> No.14655994

>>14650182
who cares? it's wine. it's not like there's anything magical going on you're just fermenting shit.

>> No.14656007

>>14651450
>>14655952
Reminds me of the location of this music video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q

>> No.14656702

>>14650288
Heh

>> No.14656723

>>14655976
>t. seething tastelet califag