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Redpill me on Ramsay. Is he really a world class chef or just a TV huckster?

>> No.14403285
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>>14403259
Yeah, he's a good chef and put in his dues. He does seem to think he's the greatest chef alive and that his opinion is god when it comes to food, so I generally don't use him as a go to for recipe's or techniques, unless it's a proven famous one, or referenced by another chef who has an opinion I can trust.

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14404147

Today I will remind them

>> No.14404172

>>14403259
Well, he has more than one 3 stars restaurant... If he's not a world class chef, who is?

>> No.14404184

>>14403259
He's probably a competent chef in the real meaning of the word as in: a person who directs line cooks in a kitchen, but like all TV personalities he is a puppet for the elites.

>> No.14404319

>>14404147
based jack scalfani inspiring tv personalities

>> No.14404327

Yes Gordon is a based chef. You have to watch his show where he hunts and cooks to see him in his element. Everything else is just bullshit American TV ratings shit.

>> No.14404358

He is absolutely one.
But he also isn't someone you should be learning to cook from. Like most chefs, he knows how to get something to taste good but isn't good at explaining it and breaking down why.
Also he has a bunch of bullshit rules that he breaks all the times and teaches people to follow like theyre the bible. (eg his scrambled eggs)

>> No.14404363

Reddit loves him

>> No.14404379

>>14403259
>Redpill me on Ramsay. Is he really a world class chef or just a TV huckster?
He's a hack. It's not obvious to you that his "best ever" recipes are prepared by staffers? He's dunking worchestershire in Mexican recipes, I mean, c'mon. He ingredients and techniques both are filled with flaws. He's just a small town kind of poverty kid, who got some money, but never got "class" or traveled for culture. He is missing that intuitive culmination of natural talent. He's just had great financial backers.

You can see his chip on his shoulder. He's the child of a bully, worked for a bully, and the bottom line is alcoholism that created that monster, whether his father, his brother, his circle of friends. It's sad.

>> No.14404407

>>14404379
t. Marco

>> No.14404426

>>14403259
A very good chef, especially when it comes to haute cuisine. However, totally puts on an act to create a persona he can market. Realized being the kitchen 12 hours a day isn't a good life

There is better chefs, but no one knows who they are, just taste their food

>> No.14404427

>>14404379
I'm sure Gordon saw this post while on his phone in his Ferrari Enzo while sitting in a garage of his $20,000,000 house and it really upset him. You just ended him bro.

>> No.14404695

>>14404379
Idk seems pretty authentic to me. Marco seems to have much more of a chip on his shoulder than Gordon

>> No.14404701

>>14403259
both

>> No.14404851

>>14403259
he isn't a chef, he is a businessman. all of his recipes are made by a group of marketers. he simply pretends to be a chef on camera in order to get more publicity for his shitty restaurants.

>> No.14404872

>>14404427
why yes, it did. money can buy you happiness, but it certainly wont be some shitty sports car that you can't even drive in actually high speeds without fucking dying. deep inside Gordon knows that it's his fame that kept his finances alive and now that it's dwindling away he can't help but notice that he is becoming more irrelevant. he has to scour all these internet forums to search for discussions about him and see what people dislike about him so he could do that shit even more in order to shock his audience. his restaurants and shows are really bad and without his fame they will die out.

Gordon Ramsay kills himself during the next 3 years, mark my words.

>> No.14404888

>>14403259
He's got genuine talent, but I think for the past few years he's just been dicking around. Too much time making shit tv shows eroded his sense of reason.

>> No.14404962

>>14404172
People you haven't heard of are. World class chefs do not acquire fame.

>> No.14405088

>>14404962
How do you know they exist then?

>> No.14405292

>>14404872
Irrelevant? They post clips of shows from fifteen years ago on youtube and they get five million views in a day lol

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>>14404962
Listen here you fucking nobody
Stop flapping your lips about and just give it that mediterranean. You pathetic fucking nobody

>> No.14405316

>>14405292
it's mostly bots.

>> No.14405334

>>14405316
That is some cope right there if I've ever seen it

>> No.14405534

It's amazingly clever how he was able to take complaints of him being too aggressive and abusive toward his staff and spin his entire brand to be about that.

>> No.14405545

>>14405534
Especially when he first got noticed by the media for whinging about his boss being too mean.

>> No.14406975

>>14403259
He's shite. I ate at one of his restaurants and it was overpriced dogshite. Simple as.

>> No.14406998

>>14404358
I've been using his scrambled egg method for years, it's great. What are you on about?

>> No.14407020

>>14404379
>He's just a small town kind of poverty kid, who got some money, but never got "class" or traveled for culture. He is missing that intuitive culmination of natural talent. He's just had great financial backers.
he grew up dirt poor with a deadbeat dad and trained in paris, both of your statements are objectively false.

He's not perfect, far from it, his professional kitchen bullshit is bullshit and we can see how toxic he was in the movie about his michellin star.

>> No.14407050

>>14403259
definite huckster

>> No.14407174

isn't gordon a based norfman?

>> No.14407382

>>14407020
>Toxic
Kys

>> No.14409243

>>14404962
T. pseudo intellectual

>> No.14409256

>>14403259
I only like the one video where he is on his third day of “coke challenge”, salting burgers and everything hundred times. You know, the one where looks like PS3 character.

>> No.14409269

>>14407382
>Kys
An hero.

>> No.14409274

>>14403259
he's both a good chef and a slut for tv money, they're not mutually exclusive

>> No.14409298

>>14404363
>Reddit
rent free

>> No.14409314

>>14403259
He's a cunt

>> No.14409340

>>14404962
That's not what world class means though you dunce.

>> No.14409366

>>14403259
He is the real deal, even if the dramatics on his shows are cringe. Check out this documentary on him from 1999, it's long but an interesting watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JWsiLmLhZg

>> No.14409380

>>14403259
this is all you need to see. skip to 9:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v191Y8AUk6w

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>>14403259
he is not clean enough for an example he washes his hands for 3 seconds at most like a retard and sometimes this dirty bastard doesint wash his hand at all I have seen him in person and after he touches raw meat for example pork he doesint even wash his hands (No I am not a chef I just saw him)

>> No.14409416

>>14404147
"Mmmm beautiful."

>> No.14409419

>>14406998
>his scrambled egg method
>French scrambled eggs belong to Ramsay
>isn't one of the first dishes you learn as a pro cook
lol k

>> No.14409430

>>14409366
documentaries are propaganda used to push a product

>> No.14409449

>>14409380
>oversized burger that you can't put in your mouth
>Approximately 3 kilograms of salt used
>burnt the shit out of everything. charcoal galore

What the fuck

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>>14409449
are you telling me this doesn't look like a 3-michelin-star burger to you?

>> No.14409514

He might really be an actaul good chef, but his TV and Youtube shows are pretty off putting to me. Kitchen Nightmares is overly scripted and drama ridden, his YT stuff has some really questionable camera work and editing. The constant jump cuts are not really all that appealing, and watching it I don't feel like I'm actually learning anything.

>> No.14409653

>>14409479
That looks like a depression meal

>> No.14409714

>>14403259
Yes and no. Nobody can deny that he's a decent chef, he has 7 Michelin stars, but he's not as good as he's portrayed. His culinary expertise is in french-style cooking, but he severely lacks knowledge in other cuisines and other aspects of cooking. Doing stupid things like putting oil in his pasta water, or making a carbonara with cream and peas, and of course this travesty >>14404147

>> No.14409718

>>14406998
It's not his method though, it's just the french way of preparing eggs.

>> No.14409720

>>14409479
BORGAH

>> No.14409751

>>14409389
It's true I saw him wash his hands one time and he didn't even sing Happy Birthday once let alone twice.

>> No.14409755

>>14409714
But it's literally not carbonara without cream, peas, and garlic

>> No.14409785

He sounds like a nightmare of a person desu. Dedicating years of his life to self promoting his vulgar brit persona and reality tv poison, it's not possible for him not to be some sort of insufferable faggot with that in mind.

>> No.14409798

>>14409785
That's a persona he wears for American television. He's so much more chill on British TV.

>> No.14409826

>>14409798
You act like that factoid makes him less repugnant.

>> No.14409836

>>14409755
Hehehahahuhu

>> No.14409883

I like him best on MasterChef

>> No.14409985

>>14409826
He is not repugnant. American television producers are repugnant.

>> No.14409999

>>14409985
He was repugnant in Boiling Point. He has only ever been known for being repugnant. If he were not repugnant, we would have never heard of him. Americans have a higher tolerance for repugnancy, so it had to be escalates for that audience.

>> No.14410002

>>14403259
Both

>> No.14410006

>>14409999
Episode 2 of Boiling Point is what cements him as a chill, down to earth dude IMO.

>> No.14410007

>>14409836
Stop being Italian

>> No.14410195

>>14409755
>cream and peas in your carbonara
Seriously make two batches with and without those. Personally I find that cream totally kills the dish

>> No.14410220

>>14409755
Creme fraiche > cream

>> No.14410231

>>14410006
>a chill, down to earth dude

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/mar/26/foodanddrink.travelnews

He's very calculating.

>> No.14410248

>>14410195
Well you're wrong, objectively. You're likely Italian and aren't willing to recognize improvements to your national dishes. Sad!

>> No.14410264

>>14410231
Yeah but he's always been open and honest about it. I respect his hustle.

>> No.14410279

>>14410248
>peas
I get cream but what the fuck...literally ruins the sauce

>> No.14410299

>>14410264
>throwing your mentor under the bus
>respectable

Ok.

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>>14403259
His new show is pretty fun. Saw the episode where he went to Alaska and the whole ep is people fucking with him and making him do stupid shit while he giggles like a happy goblin.

>> No.14410328

>>14409714
>making a carbonara with cream and peas
What

>> No.14410337

>>14410299
When your mentor is the Knorr Stockpot guy, it is.

>> No.14410340

>>14404379
saved

>> No.14410368

>>14409714
I remember he tried to make American BBQ in the oven.

>> No.14410479

He took that Boiling Point personality and applied it to Hell's Kitchen and became a phenomenon in the States quickly, if he were soft spoken or motivating like he was in the UK Kitchen Nightmares (kino version also) he would have gotten as big as he is now.

>> No.14410741

>>14407174
he's a Scot

>> No.14410750

>>14404147
is this real?

>> No.14410756

>>14410750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wQpHTnji68

Enjoy it Anon. It's a wild ride

>> No.14410795

>>14410756
gordonbros.. we got too cocky

>> No.14410821

>>14410756
oh my God wtf did i just saw, thank you.. i guess

>> No.14410902

>>14409514
The original seasons of the UK version of kitchen nightmares is peak soul

>> No.14410965

>>14404379
Aww, did Gordon hurt you?

>> No.14411026

>>14405316
seethe

>> No.14411078

RIGHT

>> No.14411089

>>14411078
PAN
ON

>> No.14411099

>>14410756
>6 seconds in
>THE MOST AMAZING..

>> No.14411114

>>14411089
OLIVE OIL
IN

>> No.14411616

>>14409714
That's not a travesty, that is prison cooking or stoner ingenuity.

>> No.14411655

He was good but now he has been so far removed from actual kitchens for so long that his recipes are now meme tier.

>> No.14411669

>>14404379
you had me until that last paragraph. Never seen so much unfiltered cope in one post, did Gordon fuck your wife or something jesus

>> No.14411717

>>14410756

Frito pie is an absolute trash tier food that a drunk person would make. He actually tried to make it a bit more gourmet by adding those eggs.

>> No.14411725

BBBBBOOOORRRRGGGGGAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>> No.14411769

>>14404379
Oi bitchboi, which of the fugly chefs that got insulted on TV is you?
Gordon is the greatest chef living today ,deal with it..Still interested which episode of which series featured you. Respond now.

>> No.14411781

>>14411769
>>14411669
Think he's form hell's kitchen or nightmares?

>> No.14411783

>>14404872
Something tells me that it's you whos going to neck himself within the next three years. Screencap this.

>> No.14411790

>>14411781
Possibly, yes.

>> No.14411799

>>14403259
he's another forced meme british manlet who is probably an acceptable chef, but is only valued due to a synthesized artificial cult of personality around him.

>> No.14411804

B • O • R • G • A • H

>> No.14411828

>>14411799
how could anyone from britain be a world-renowned chef when they don't have a cuisine to speak of?

>> No.14411837 [DELETED] 

>>14411828
Julia Child excepted, of course

>> No.14411935

>>14404147
The madman actually did it. Jeez. I couldn't look my own wife in the eye (who happens to be myself) in the eye straight in the eye and say to myself (my wife) you are the best chef in the world. I simply could not do it, even if it were true.

>> No.14411973

>>14411114
A drizzle of salt!

>> No.14412031

>>14409479
Jesus, and this is supposed to be the instagram money shot. What a sloppa.

>> No.14412072

>>14411717
Nah Frito pie is good

>> No.14412289

B>O>R>G>A>H
B<O<R<G<A<H

>> No.14412739

>>14410248(You)

>> No.14413187

>>14404962
>artistic integrity is completely separate from commercial success.

Imagine unironically holding this opinion

>> No.14413353

>>14404319
Jack was ahead of his time man... Fuck

>> No.14414548

>>14411655
This. Honestly wish he would go away. He just seems like a money hungry whore soooo far removed from actual food talent. Like the MTV reality show people who just wouldn’t move on and kept coming back to shows in their late 30s

>> No.14414729

>>14404172
No he doesnt

>> No.14414746

>>14404172
He has one restaurant with 3 stars.

>> No.14415282

>>14406998
SALT Nigga.

You absolutely can salt your eggs before putting them on heat, in fact its better.
Also he does the eggs differently almost every time hes on a different program. No consistency.

>> No.14415381

>>14409340
No, but the factors do correlate.

>> No.14416199

>>14403259
Just because someone is good at French cooking, doesn't mean they're suddenly good at Chinese or Japanese cooking. Same applies to Ramsay. He is certainly good at cooking some dishes, but not others. Having said that, he is probably one of the better "celebrity" chefs.

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>>14403259
Why do all the biggest celebrity chefs seem to be British? Ramsay, Jamie Oliver, Marco Pierre White. Even though British cuisine is often mocked for being one of the worst cuisines, they seem to have the most famous celebrity chefs.

>> No.14416242

>>14416214
british overcompensate their lack of food culture with tv personalities that cook french/italian food

>> No.14416251

>>14416214
brits didn't even know what olive oil was until these wankers started using it

>> No.14416344

>>14403259
He's great at what he was trained at, French and British cuisine. Every time he tries to make an ethnic dish I cringe internally. His burgers are also overrated as fuck. If you want fish and chips I'm sure he's the guy to go to.

>> No.14416500

>>14411935
>The madman actually did it.
go back

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>>14404407

>> No.14417133

>>14407020
he wasnt particularly poor he really exaggerates that part of his life he was born in glasgow the same city i am from and i can tell you people who are genuinely lower class here never leave they just stick us in schemes (projects if ur american or council estates if ur english) he went to a posh school and even had a failed football career his family may not of been rich but they where far from being in complete poverty

>> No.14417147

>>14411935
Based wifeposter

>> No.14417151

>>14404147
I fail to see what is wrong here. He used Fritos and Wolfbrand Chili. That is pretty much the two single requirements to make Frito Pie.

>> No.14417168

>>14417133
>people who are genuinely lower class here never leave they just stick us in schemes
in other words he was better than the rest of you and made something of himself?

>> No.14417182

>>14417151
salt is the problem.
have had "walking tacos" are scrambled eggs common in authentico Frito Pie like how chili in TX is meat slop and no beans?

>> No.14417187

B • O • R • G • A • H

>> No.14417222

World class restaurateur, probably a pretty good chef but it's probably been years since he was in the trenches.

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>>14417187
B U R G A
U
R
G
A

>> No.14417327

>>14417168
no i mean he was never that poor that he had to live off government handouts. i dont doubt he had a rough start but he acts like he started from the gutter when really he was just average working class not like super poor

>> No.14417335

>>14417262
Reamed Clams?

>> No.14417337

>S+ rank Marketer
>A rank Chef

He is pretty good despite being a British. He will look average among French, Italian and Japanese chefs tho.

>> No.14417831

>>14409714
>Doing stupid things like putting oil in his pasta water
This is something everyone should do and you are a total fucking tool for not understanding it. It works, go fuck yourself you piece of human shit for spreading this meme.

Fuck you forever tastelet cu/ck/ get the hell off of my board.

>> No.14417845

>>14416344
this desu

hes not a god, no chefs are. Watch him trying to make dishes like dimsum if you want to see him really struggle