/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14295708]

Whenever I see someone get uppity and snobby over Italian food, they always shit on lasagna and chicken parm. Why is this?

[Anonymous No.14295719]

>>14295708
Stop making fucktarded threads fag

[Anonymous No.14295744]

Who shits on chicken parm?

[Anonymous No.14295769]

>>14295744
I've seen many on /ck/ in Italian discussions say things like "chickem parm is for plebs" and "anyone who orders chicken parm at a nice restaurant is an idiot"

[Anonymous No.14296953]

[Anonymous No.14296967]

>>14295769
the fuck?
I enjoy the bastardization of Italian food than the real thing. They're so pretentious and the food usually looks like shit when they prepare it.

[Anonymous No.14296987]

>start cooking
>oh i want to do italian, italian cooking is nice
>1 year later
>fucking despise of italians, they care so much, i don't give a shit, i'll put honey in my pasta water, even garlic powder, i'll show them what real pizza is, with a side of extra cheese and dubious toppings, i'll sow them what a "caccitore" really is, you'll see me opening a can not even from san marzano region, how bout that? you want a milanese have some bitch!

[Anonymous No.14298732]

Since when did this start? Why?

[Anonymous No.14299355]

>>14295769
That's cringe, but not as cringe as fucking lasagna

[Anonymous No.14299360]

>>14295708
Lasagna is literally the best thing that ever came from Italy.

[Anonymous No.14299378]

>>14299360
I'd say homo sex with androgynous teenage boy was better

[Anonymous No.14299422]

>>14299378
I'm sure you would, faggot.

[Anonymous No.14299550]

>>14299378
This post is metaphysically Mediterranean.

[Anonymous No.14299808]

>>14295769
LMAO there are like 5 people on this board who know anything about food

[Anonymous No.14299820]

>>14299378
Faggacini Niggatoni

[Anonymous No.14300053]

>>14299820
you know "Fascini Negroni" is not a too far feched name in italy

[Anonymous No.14300072]

>>14295708
lasagna is one of those things that fell into the hands of Better Home & Gardens bitches in the 60s & 70s so everything is made with readily available prepackaged ingredients like cottage cheese instead of ricotta, jarred sauce mixed with boiled mince instead of bolognese, and topped with shredded, bagged mozz instead of bechamel

[Anonymous No.14300081]

>>14300072
what do you order

[Anonymous No.14300089]

>>14295708
Because its like your stupid sicilian Americano bastardised pizzas or your high fructose ketchup based pasta sauces, its the foods that non italians have ruined.

[Anonymous No.14300090]

>>14300081
order?

[Anonymous No.14300696]

>>14295708
Why would anyone shit on those?

I mean, that just ruins it.

[Anonymous No.14300710]

>>14295708
>BECAUSE THEY'RE FAGGOTS THAT'S WHY!
>>14300072
>cottage cheese
Please tell me nobody actually does this.

[Anonymous No.14300731]

>>14296953

>me

[Anonymous No.14300825]

>>14295708
> pic
Who the fuck put parsley or basil in a lasagna?

>>14295769
desu chicken parm is a real life example of "do americans really?" dish.
Imagine being so fat that you can't enjoy a dish with eggplant and you have to substitute it with chicken.

[Anonymous No.14301074]

>>14300710
my mom put cottage cheese in her lasagna recipe. it's very common in flyover country.

[Anonymous No.14301085]

>>14295708
go be a faggot somewhere else

[Anonymous No.14301093]

>>14296987
you seem angry anon, is everything alright?

[Anonymous No.14301127]

tomatoes weren't an ingredient until explorers brought seeds back from discovering america.

[Anonymous No.14301150]

>>14301127
thanks reddit, why don't you copy/paste the whole article about it on here

[Anonymous No.14301163]

People who say lasagna sucks probably only had it from Olive Garden

[Anonymous No.14301201]

>>14295708
Who cooks the meal, the ingredients and their method is far more important. It makes a huge difference.
I'm not a zoomer or millenniel retard so I like to go on holiday to somewhere nice rather than 3rd world shitholes. I've been to Italy many times and I can safely say that who and how a chef prepares a meal makes a huge difference.
A spaghetti dish in one similarly priced restaurant can vastly differ than another.
I suppose that personal taste can also pay a big part. But my travelling companions have often commented on these differences themselves

[Anonymous No.14301230]

>>14301150
Any dish with tomato descends from gimmicky carnival food and shuns more traditionally italian/roman dishes that borrow heavily from the middle east.

[Anonymous No.14301431]

>>14301230
No, but I get your point. Many Italian dishes that have become popular outside of Italy by home cooks are regional specific dishes there.
Bolognes dishes are a prime example are are usually found more in the North.
Italy is amazing for its regional differences. It's like if you shrunk the US down to a couple of hundred miles across but kept all the regional variances

[Anonymous No.14301477]

if anything the Chicken Parm is a classic Aussie pub meal, not italian.
its why we have less vegetarians and vegans down here, you're fucking screwed if you dont like Chicken Parm.

[Anonymous No.14301486]

>>14295708

As is the case with all European nations, their best & brightest emigrated to America decades ago, and in this land of plentiful freedom the true Italians finally perfected their native cuisine. But the pitiful residue, those wops left behind in the empoverished and war-scarred old country, now jealous;y define their entire self-identity in contrast to the American diaspora. Today's aboriginal "Italians" (whose blood is at least half African) thrive on denigrating the superior Italo-American cuisine. Foreign visitors to Mussolini's catbox will see nothing but feeble pasta mixed with grass clippings, and "authentic Nealopolitan" pizza--cardboard disks smeared with menstrual drippings. But behind closed doors, the greasy natives reveal their true dago desire, continuously gorging themselves upon Domino's Stuffed-Crust pizza. (Why do you think that Italy is constantly in such debt? Four-thousand mile delivery ain't cheap.) They put on a nice enough show for the tourists, but every gypsy goomba has a pepperoni Hot Pocket up his sleeve. Every Italian home includes a shrine to Chef Boyardee, and most spaghetti-suckers dream of pilgrimmage to an authententic Olive Garden, that mecca of Roman repast.

[Anonymous No.14301524]

>>14300072
Bechamel and bolognese is just one particular style in Italy. In my area, its not even made with bolognese. Tomato sauce, pulled pork breast (cooked in the tomato sauce), tiny beef meatballs (deep fried) and slices of dry mozzarella. No ricotta. No bechamel.
Other areas do lasagne other ways. There are no hard and fast rules unless you're going for one style in particular.

[Anonymous No.14301533]

>>14301477
I thought Aussies called it chicken parmy. I have an aunt and uncle who emigrated to Perth from Italy and I think I remember my cousin telling me about something called "chicken parmy." Am I just misremembering?

[Anonymous No.14301547]

>>14300825
Parmigiana do melanzane is not the same as chicken parm. One is a layered casserole and the other is a schnitzel with tomato sauce and cheese. Americans eat meatball parm to, don't they? How the duck is that related typo any sort of parmigiana? It's not.
For some reason, 'parm' has come to mean 'x with sugary tomato sauce and cheese' in America. That's all. No one replace eggplants with chicken. Excluding the use of sauce and cheese, the two dishes are fairly dissimilar. Is like claiming a patty melt is a fucked up version of Wellington.

[Anonymous No.14302035]

>>14295708
>chicken parm
Pretty sure that's not italian

[Anonymous No.14302081]

>>14300710
Oh yeah, always use the cottage cheese.

[Anonymous No.14302159]

>>14301486
>Foreign visitors to Mussolini's catbox will see nothing but feeble pasta mixed with grass clippings, and "authentic Nealopolitan" pizza--cardboard disks smeared with menstrual drippings.
Hahaha are you for real. You're a scream. Italian food is shit, America is the best thing to happen to their shithole culture.

[Anonymous No.14302176]

There's no one more annoying with food than Italians
>noooo you cannot add a clove of garlic to your pasta that is not like mama used to a-make nooooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.14302183]

>>14300825
I like to add a layer of pesto in my lasagne, it's legit

[Anonymous No.14302281]

>>14299378
Kys

[Anonymous No.14303049]

>>14295708
At least as far as I'm concerned it is because those dishes are easy to screw up. If you half-ass them they don't turn out nearly as well. That's why I have issues with eating lasagna most places, anyway. Chewy-burnt-ass noodles, gross-ass powder "cheese," dry, over-cooked meat, and tomato sauce filled with so much damn sugar it'll kill a diabetic.

[Anonymous No.14303101]

>>14301230
Mezzogiorno cuisine is heavily influenced by tomatoes. Northern Italians were so stupid they originally thought tomatoes were poisonous.