/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14241820]

is it really that bad to have a cig every now and then? im going through a lot of shit in my life and i need something to relief stress

[Anonymous No.14241850]

>>14241820
the occasional cig is a nice relaxing experience. as long as you aren't smoking multiple packs a week the negative effects are negligible unless you're insanely cancer prone

[Anonymous No.14241852]

>>14241820
If you are going through some shit, you shouldn't try to make it worse. Try earl grey, worked for Patrick Streward. No but for real. Rely on yourself and not on some crutch. If you get through the shit, you get out stronger and without an addiction.

[Anonymous No.14241883]

>>14241820
do it. join the black lungs gang.

[Anonymous No.14241904]

>>14241820
Why are you eating cigarettes?

[Anonymous No.14241907]

>>14241820
Why don't you ask /fit/ instead of a board about food?

[Anonymous No.14241908]

Not even kidding when I say sex or not, have a child sleep with you in your bed. You will feel much more at ease.

[Anonymous No.14241910]

>>14241907
cigarettes is food

[Anonymous No.14241914]

>>14241908
...

[Anonymous No.14242042]

>>14241820

“Now and then”? Sure, that won’t hurt you but how many people can actually do that, considering the addictive nature of nicotine? For most people, once you start you've got a monkey on your back and quitting is a bitch.

Now years back, one of my buddies would smoke a whole pack at a party but then somehow go weeks without a single cigarette afterwards and I dunno how the hell he could do that? I’ve been smoking 1-1.5 packs a day since I was 16 (I’m now 52).

[Anonymous No.14242057]

>>14241820
The problem is almost everyone who has a cigarette or two ends up smoking a lot more once it becomes a comfy habit. That's why all the anti-smoking fags always focus so much on addiction as a problem. If they weren't so enjoyable and addictive and you only had a cigarette or two every few days it's unlikely you'd get serious medical problems from them. But they ARE that enjoyable and I would bet a lot of money on you going from what you're talking about to ending up smoking closer to a pack a day in the not so distant future.

[Anonymous No.14242058]

>>14242042
>believing cigarretes are addictive

Fix yourself and stop complaining because you lack self control.

[Anonymous No.14242065]

>>14242058
They are definitely addictive you retard. The fact it's possible to quit smoking doesn't make them not addictive.

[Anonymous No.14242071]

>>14242065
False.

[Anonymous No.14242073]

>>14241820
Going through what shit?

[Anonymous No.14242075]

>/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14242076]

not a food or cooking thread you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.14242079]

>>14242076
Language!

[Anonymous No.14242085]

>>14242075
>>14242076
We've had cigarette threads on /ck/ since forever, newfags. They're a consumable. If you don't like it then stop posting your retarded diet soda threads because those don't have nutrition or calories in them either.
>>14242071
Not an argument, fuck off. You seem to not understand the difference between "it's possible to stop" vs. "it's not addictive" and have a capacity for grasping nuance on par with an eight year old.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5797716/

[Anonymous No.14242087]

I prefer chewing tobacco to cigarettes.

Chewing tobacco is peak comfy.

[Anonymous No.14242091]

>>14242085
>We've had cigarette threads on /ck/ since forever

not on my watch, bucko. take that shit to /fit/

[Anonymous No.14242095]

>>14241910
FOOD DEFINITIONS

From Google:
>any nutritious substance that people or animals eat or drink or that plants absorb in order to maintain life and growth.

From Merriam-Webster:
>material consisting essentially of protein, carbohydrate, and fat used in the body of an organism to sustain growth, repair, and vital processes and to furnish energy

From Dictionary.com:
>any nourishing substance that is eaten, drunk, or otherwise taken into the body to sustain life, provide energy, promote growth, etc.

Clearly, cigarettes are not food and this thread is off-topic. Take your dangerous addiction elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.14242096]

>>14242091
Wrong, fuck off.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/nov/03/cooking-with-tobacco-food

[Anonymous No.14242110]

imagine actually being so retarded that you read "/ck/ - Food & Cooking" and think this means cigarettes

it truly boggles the mind

[Anonymous No.14242111]

>>14242096
You can't cook with cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.14242114]

I use rub the mouth tip of my cig on my nieces toddler clit before I smoked it.

[Anonymous No.14242116]

>>14242111
False.

[Anonymous No.14242119]

>>14242111
>In a nod to Bourdain's two-pack-a-day cigarette habit, Thomas Keller once served him a 20-course tasting menu which included a mid-meal “coffee and cigarette,” a coffee custard infused with tobacco, with a foie gras mousse.

[Anonymous No.14242121]

>>14241820
eat comfort food

[Anonymous No.14242126]

>>14242116
>>14242119

Cigarettes =/= tabacco.

[Anonymous No.14242127]

>>14242085
>(((ncbi)))
brainlet

[Anonymous No.14242130]

>>14242127
You can find different sources for the same article, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14242133]

>>14241820
If you are stressed and going through a lot of shit in your life fucking with your brain chemistry is not a good idea

[Anonymous No.14242137]

>>14242126
All cigarettes are tobacco (unless you're a weirdo who calls joints "cigarettes"). Not all tobacco are cigarettes. Basically the square / rectangle relationship (all squares are rectangles).

[Anonymous No.14242144]

>>14242127
Here you go, retard.
https://www.jpmph.org/journal/view.php?doi=10.3961/jpmph.16.088
Now it's not ncbi anymore and magically doesn't violate your autistic sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.14242395]

>>14241914
(((They))) tell you that the natural bonding experience of sleeping NEXT to your child is bad. It is All about division and creating asocial people. Think for yourself cuck.

[Anonymous No.14242402]

>>14241820
plenty of people go through stress periods without a cig, man the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.14242448]

>>14242395
>(((They))) tell you that the natural bonding experience of sleeping NEXT to your child is bad.
Maybe, but that anon wrote:
>>14241908
>Not even kidding when I say sex or not, have a child sleep with you in your bed.
The "sex or not" part coupled with "not even kidding" makes it sound blatantly like someone's urging your to have sex with children.
If you want to say instead that sleeping next to your own child is natural and good for bonding then you shouldn't say anything about sex at all. It's blatantly fucked up and alarming to bring it up in that context. Basically like saying "not even kidding but beating the shit out of your dog or not, it's good to spend time with them."

[Anonymous No.14242453]

>>14242402
>plenty of people go through stress periods without a cig
Yeah, and that's less enjoyable than having a smoke. Not much point to living if you're just going to deprive yourself of simple pleasures to prove how tough and hardcore you are.

[Anonymous No.14242595]

bought some Camels earlier and theyre fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.14242609]

>>14241850
it's safer to smoke a pack a week in the country than live in the city and breathe that dirty air

[Anonymous No.14242644]

>>14242058
ciggarettes are addictive as fuck, what are you on about cunt

[Anonymous No.14242681]

>>14242644
He's a retard who thinks if you can quit then that means it isn't addictive. It's kind of like saying Carolina Reapers aren't spicy because I was able to eat them.

[Anonymous No.14243336]

>>14241820
>only smoke once a day on a nightwalk
if only I could control my alcoholism

[Anonymous No.14243339]

>>14241820
Just get some snus instead. Won't fuck up your lungs.

[Anonymous No.14243355]

>>14242453
bitch faggot

[Anonymous No.14243380]

>>14242042
Nicotine itself isn't particularly addictive, it's the MAOIs in the alkaloids if tobacco that make it more addictive ; in other words, it inhibits the reuptake of dopamine (and every other monoamine, like serotonin and norepinephrine ie adrenaline).

Meth, cocaine, amphetamines, gambling, sex all do the same thing (for dopamine). As far as I know every addictive substance manipulates dopamine in some way. Nicotine affects nicotinic neuromuscular junctions, which (as far as I know) aren't involved in any addictive properties. Sure, it has some CNS activity but the tobacco alkaloids are what make cigarettes more addictive than vaping.
My vape battery died last week and it hasn't bothered me one bit. I dont think I'll even replace it. Whereas if I ran out of cigs I'd be thinking of getting another pack often.

[Anonymous No.14243383]

>>14243339
Yeah, fuck up your mouth instead. Brilliant plan.

[Anonymous No.14243505]

>>14243355
Maybe see about enjoying life some time you tryhard retard. Just because you can deprive of yourself of something enjoyable doesn't mean you should. You could live off nothing but some Gandhi starvation diet of rice and vegetables and spend all your free time sitting on the floor of an empty room counting off the seconds remaining in the day but why would you want to?

[Anonymous No.14243531]

>>14241820
trying crying instead works really well

[Anonymous No.14243672]

>>14241850
from a health perspective this is absolute bullshit. Smoking puts horrible shit in your lungs when you smoke and even a little bit will fuck you up if you do it for a long time.

>duration of exposure has a major and probably higher contribution to smoking associated mortality than cigarettes per day, which may explain that even low intensity smoking is associated with significantly increased morbi-mortality rates even when residual risk due to previous smoking exposure is similar.

Lubin JH, Couper D, Lutsey PL, Woodward M, Yatsuya H, Huxley RR. Risk of Cardiovascular Disease from Cumulative Cigarette Use and the Impact of Smoking Intensity. Epidemiology (Cambridge, Mass) 2016; 27(3): 395-404. 8.

Inoue-Choi M, Liao LM, Reyes-Guzman C, Hartge P, Caporaso N, Freedman ND. Association of Long-term, Low-Intensity Smoking With All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality in the National Institutes of Health-AARP Diet and Health Study. JAMA internal medicine 2017; 177(1): 87-95.

[Anonymous No.14243686]

dont smoke faggot
>look worse
>feel worse
>smell worse
>prone to disease and mortality
>money sink
>bad for teeth
>bad for sex life
>bad for eyes
etc etc etc
smoking cigarettes is one of the most retarded voluntary things that you can do. If you need to reduce stress get into exercise or meditation.

[Anonymous No.14243693]

>>14243686
or crying

[Anonymous No.14243699]

>about 70% of current smokers want to quit smoking
>plethora of evidence that shows smoking is one of the worst possible decisions you can make for your life and hundreds of thousands of examples of what happens if you start doing it
>smoking kills half of all people who do it

If you smoke you’re a retard. Smokers have more hilarious copes than literally every other group on the planet. Like that retard in this thread saying smoking is healthier than living in the city. Double digit IQ illiterate retards.

[Anonymous No.14243842]

smoking is good for you

[Anonymous No.14243846]

>>14242448
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.14243862]

Try a tobacco pipe instead. Way more and varied flavours to choose from, many different strengths, way more comfy, much less habit-forming, and it won't make your fingers yellow and stanky.

[Anonymous No.14243868]

>>14241820
Vape or drink whiskey

[Anonymous No.14243869]

>>14241820
Ill smoke a cigar maybe once or twice a month or so. Much better and satisfying than a risking getting hooked on cigarettes again

[Anonymous No.14243885]

>>14241820
switch to really expensive cigars
when you need to relax, put on a bathrobe and furry slippers, sip a whisky and smoke a cigar

cigarettes were developed for instant gratification

[Anonymous No.14243976]

>>14243699
Japanese smoke more than anyone and have the least amount of lung cancer.
And smokers in the West were picked as a scapegoat to distract attention away from the health problems caused by atmosphere detonations like the Trinity test which dispersed radioactive particles everywhere that definitely do cause cancer and don't disappear any time soon. Smoking is an extremely popular habit people choose to take up as a personal decision so it's convenient if you can pursue and identify evidence to blame health problems on that.
A bunch of animal experiments were done long ago to try to prove tobacco in itself causes cancer e.g. pic related where they forced beagles to smoke to try to induce cancer.
It didn't work, even when they got so desperate that they that they cut open the dogs' throats and administered massive amounts of tobacco smoke to them directly through a tracheostomy.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022480468900115
>70% want to quit
Yeah, because you aren't allowed to smoke anywhere anymore for one reason. Almost all workplaces got rid of smoke breaks and make smokers go walk across the street during lunch break to smoke a cigarette (for the many who work hourly at least; if you're salaried obviously you can just go take a break any time you feel like it since you're not on the clock). And the many living in apartments have been banned from smoking in their own homes. Plus they're constantly told smoking is the worst thing you can do to yourself and you're a terrible person if you do it. And on top of all that the price has been jacked up to absurdly high amounts through sin taxes.
Personally I stopped smoking years ago to avoid all the artificial hassle others impose on you for it and to save a lot more money, but in a world without all the government meddling and propaganda smoking would be fine.

[Anonymous No.14243992]

smoking is healthy because you eat less. And if youre fully invested into the subtle but linear mental stimulation that nicotine provides then you'll eat singificantly less.

[Anonymous No.14243996]

>>14243672
Interesting

[Anonymous No.14243997]

>>14243992
This is a good point. Whatever health problems night have actually been tied to smoking in the past they've clearly been greatly overshadowed by the modern obesity epidemic. Diabetes is what's fucking up most people's shit nowadays.

[Anonymous No.14244001]

>>14243842
What are you? A 1920s woman?
Cigarette cases are gay.

[Anonymous No.14244013]

>>14243672
>A micromort is a unit of risk defined as one-in-a-million chance of death.
>One micromort is equal to:
>Drinking 0.5 liter of wine (cirrhosis of the liver)
>Smoking 1.4 cigarettes (cancer, heart disease)
>Spending 1 hour in a coal mine (black lung disease)
>Spending 3 hours in a coal mine (accident)
>Living 2 days in New York or Boston in 1979 (air pollution)
,>Living 2 months with a smoker (cancer, heart disease)
>Drinking Miami water for 1 year (cancer from chloroform)
>Eating 100 charcoal-broiled steaks (cancer from benzopyrene)
>Traveling 6000 miles (10,000 km) by jet (cancer due to increased background radiation)
https://web.archive.org/web/20110615151812/http://tobaccodocuments.org/lor/03732381-2387.html

[Anonymous No.14244016]

>>14244001
lol
i got it in the army because my cartons kept getting squished

[Anonymous No.14244071]

>>14241820
The problem with smokes isn't that a few, or even a pack a week will hurt your lungs or kill you. The problem is that it's never "just a few", it rarely stays "just a few" and it isn't worth it. Just grab a drink, anon.

[Anonymous No.14244072]

>>14242144
>(((jpmph)))
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14244082]

>>14244016
Makes sense

[Anonymous No.14244131]

>>14244071
>dont destroy your lungs, destroy your liver instead!
great advice

[Anonymous No.14244136]

>>14242075
>>14242076
>m-muh 4chan experience!!

[Anonymous No.14244145]

>>14243976
Jesus christ this is some next-level coping

[Anonymous No.14244175]

>>14241820
If you want to smoke every now and then, you’re playing with fire, but don’t inhale. Since you’re not inhaling might as well buy a cigar instead of cigarettes. Read up on how to cut and light one before you start.

[Anonymous No.14244263]

>>14244072
Which publication do you approve of exactly, brainlet?

[Anonymous No.14244282]

>>14242042
>smoke a whole pack at a party but then somehow go weeks without a single cigarette afterwards

Is this so unusual? I can chain smoke a fuckton of cigars and cigs while drunk over a weekend then go a few weeks without smoking and not feel a craving at all. Do normies really get addicted after a single pack?

[Anonymous No.14244309]

>>14241820
Cigarettes are fucking based. Nicotine has positive benefits and as long as you aren't smoking a pack of palmals a day you should be fine.

I recommend starting with American Spirits as you can navigate different types of tobacco to find what you like. I smoke Marlboro red blacks just don't get 100's unless you're a girl,

[Anonymous No.14244314]

>>14244145
How is it coping if I don't even smoke anymore? It's just the truth. Read up on it. Why do you think they couldn't ever produce cancer in animals using cigarettes, even when they tore out dogs' throats and forced the smoke directly into them at absurdly high doses for extremely long periods of time?
Nuclear radiation from the later internationally banned hundreds of atmospheric detonation tests caused an a massive uptick in cancer cases. When the numbers started getting too high to ignore they launched a nonstop campaign of extensive research into tobacco as a cancer causing agent since basically the entire adult population on the planet smoked and it allowed for a narrative where people gave themselves cancer through bad personal habits instead of the reality where the state was reckless with hazardous nuclear material and doomed their own people to some of the worst slow deaths imaginable.
For a time during WWII smoking rates fell to zero simply because tobacco become unavailable. During that same time frame the lung cancer rate neither fell nor stayed the same but instead *increased*. Anti-smoking campaigners try to have it both ways and claim a 30 year incubation period and corresponding lag to explain the WWII lack of smoking and lack of corresponding health problem decreases while also claiming modern efforts to eliminate smoking deserve credit for drops in corresponding health problems that happened immediately after this observed modern smoking decrease trend. If it were 30 years consistently then the decrease in modern health problems associated with smoking would be based on the smoking rates of people during the 70s which is obviously not going to support the propaganda goals.
And look at the data on smoking among women and lung cancer cases (pic related).
I'm not the conspiracy theorist type but you got rused. State planners decide where to put research pressure to force spurious correlations when they need to deflect attention.

[Anonymous No.14244319]

>>14243672
shut up glownigger

[Anonymous No.14244337]

>>14241820
Masturbate my good man, masterbate he said, self love is free and no one knows how to beat it better than yourself.

[Anonymous No.14244364]

I'm not a beta soyboy liberal cuck

[Anonymous No.14244390]

>>14244314

daily reminder that the tobacco industry was massively important to the formation and success of the U.S and there has been sustained efforts from outsiders to either control the industry from day one and when those attempts at controlling tobacco failed, they switched to attempting to just outright destroy the whole damn thing.

one could argue that without tobacco, there would be no United States. Tobacco companies were very influential, very rich and very american. this made lots of people seethe and it still does today.

[Anonymous No.14244996]

wow the tobacco shills are really out in force today

[Anonymous No.14245017]

>>14242087
If you're concerned about safety then chewing tobacco is probably safer than smoking. Snus is supposed to be the safest form of tobacco, with no noticeable cancer risk but you can still develop gum problems if you use it too much. And I guess vaping is probably better than smoking but it might still be too early to see what problems that might cause.

[Anonymous No.14245066]

no, it's great. I smoke a few cigs a month, been trying different brands. It's very relaxing to go for an evening walk or sit on the balcony and smoke occasionally. Smoking daily ruins the enjoyability imo and is significantly unhealthy.

Most things in life are fine in moderation and negative stress will kill much faster than anything else.

[Anonymous No.14245090]

>>14243976
>this massive level of cope
jesus christ smokers are pathetic. I stopped reading right at the Japanese thing. Even IF what you said is true, Japanese people have some of the healthiest diets and most active lifestyles of any population. This obviously is what contributes to their longevity. Read a book you dumb, dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.14245104]

>>14244314
See all that shit you wrote? It doesn’t matter. Cigarettes kill half of all people who smoke them, and cause a tremendous amount of other issues. Just google “why are cigarettes bad for you”, jesus christ. Your tinfoil hat science is cringe, dude.

[Anonymous No.14245363]

>>14245017
i've heard enough first hand experiences from snus users about their mouths getting FUCKED to not even try it

[Anonymous No.14245379]

>>14242127
Faggot nigger smoothbrain detected. go to your nearest gun store and blow your face off if you don't trust national science research institutes because you think they're Jewish

[Anonymous No.14245395]

>>14245104
>Cigarettes kill half of all people who smoke them
Yeah, if you count everyone who ever admitted to smoking at any point in their lives and died from anything including a heart attack in their 80s.

[Anonymous No.14245407]

>>14245090
>>14245104
See all that shit you wrote? It doesn't matter. No one was able to cause cancer with cigarettes in animals even after tearing out the throats of beagles and pumping cigarette directly into their bodies at amounts way above what an actual smoker would consume.

[Anonymous No.14245423]

>>14245407
Are you a beagle? Sit down before I roll up a newspaper.

[Anonymous No.14245454]

>>14245423
Hilarious, but you're still wrong. What happened with the animal experiments? Never were able to cause cancer with cigarettes. Stick to the real topic, fren.

[Anonymous No.14245476]

>>14244282
I do the same thing. Not a whole pack, but a few cigs when I'm especially drunk. I have never gotten a nicotine craving in my life. I have a pack of cigarettes right next to me and the idea of lighting one up and smelling/tasting like shit for the rest of the day disgusts me. I can only do it when I'm at a party and everyone else is drinking and smoking.

[Anonymous No.14245488]

>>14241852
>If you are going through some shit, you shouldn't try to make it worse.
This. Don't make something unhealthy a crutch, applying all kinds of positive stress relieving connotations to the horrible habit, and it can't become a bigger problem down the line.

Don't pick up alcohol or smoking or anything else destructive at your most vulnerable times in lives.

Is it just cancer? No, it's sexual function, energy and frequent illnesses, and other quality of life factors, as well as financial drawbacks.

[Anonymous No.14245495]

>>14245407
i wonder how long humans live compared to dogs

[Anonymous No.14245506]

>>14245495
Yes, dogs never get cancer because they don't live long enough. Great argument, retard.

[Anonymous No.14245539]

>>14242095
>From Dictionary.com:
>any nourishing substance that is eaten, drunk, or otherwise taken into the body to sustain life, provide energy, promote growth, etc.
>or otherwise taken into the body
>to provide energy
Clearly you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.14245556]

Is it possible to use chewing tobacco as an ingredient?

[Anonymous No.14245577]

>>14242058
hello based brigade

[Anonymous No.14245581]

>>14241908
This actually does work for me, but I'm a dad not a perv. There's just something settling about staying calm and quiet enough to not wake them and having them kick and flop all over you without even disturbing you. And seeing how at peace they are... I love being a dad.

[Anonymous No.14245582]

>>14242110
fuck off newfag

[Anonymous No.14245634]

>>14241908
just get a dog or a cat to do the same thing you genius

[Anonymous No.14245727]

>>14245634
That's illegal though

[Anonymous No.14245784]

yes i really badly want to live until im 100 years old while spending 20 of them in a retirement home. fuck yea tobacco bad. maybe if i dont smoke cigarettes it will make me invincible

[Anonymous No.14246007]

>>14245363
Regularly using a lot of it will mess up your gums, the salt/nicotine/pH of it causes a little irritation. But I think it goes back to normal for the most part if you stop using it for a while.

It's probably a good idea to take a break from anything like that, smoking/drinking/etc. Keeps your tolerance low which can make it more enjoyable when you do have it, and it helps keep anything from having too much of a negative effect.

[Anonymous No.14246251]

>>14245581

[Anonymous No.14246625]

>>14241908
What's that got to do with ciggies? Also
>having a cause of your stress taking up your bed space while you're trying to sleep
Fucking why?

[Anonymous No.14246644]

>>14243672
Your post is speculative bullshit. To date there is not one successful experimental study where tobacco was able to induce carcinogensis in any healthy animal at rates statistically and practically significant relative to control. See for yourself.