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I grew up on "American potato salad" I guess and I was deprived of the real stuff all my life.

>> No.14239407

That's the southern German recipe tho. The northern one uses a heavy mayo dressing.

>> No.14239414

>>14239407
this, it tastes like ass in my opinion. noodle salad with northern style mayo dressing though, that shit is out of control

>> No.14239643

>>14239414
I don't think you really know what noodles are.

>> No.14239695

>>14239643
shut

>> No.14239710

>>14239377
this stuff is super common in the midwest, it ok

>> No.14239802
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>>14239377
For me, its russian potato salad

>> No.14239816

>>14239710
Minnesotan/Wisconsinite here.
Never seen this stuff. It's always mayo, eggs, diced potatoes, onion, and celery.

>> No.14239825

>>14239816
oh, I live in Milwaukee and basically every grocery store deli has it, and its very common at summer gatherings. Mayo stuff is also common

>> No.14239857

>>14239825
I just noticed it at my local grocery store deli. 6.99 a lb is a bit steep though. Reg potato salad was 2.99/lb.

>> No.14239871

>>14239857
When I worked in a grocery store deli in school we bought the mayo based potato salad in huge quantities from the outside but we made the german potato salad ourselves (as we did most other things) so it was a little more expensive, not that much though. The premade mayo potato salad was probably the single cheapest thing we had of the dozens of available deli salads

>> No.14240017

>this is just normal potato salad
>look up the american version
>Chill, covered, before serving.

what the fuck america

>> No.14240029

>>14240017
You think it's American? Where do you think USA got the recipe from? Potato salad is older than your fucking country.

>> No.14240035

>>14240017
USA. Invented fire and water, too.

>> No.14240037

>>14239816
MNfag here, usually the German shit is canned, though there are a lot of restaurants that sell it as “hot potato salad”

>> No.14240045

>>14239407
I tried some 1/16mutt's schwabische kartoffelsalat recipe and it was literally potatoes in vinegar broth, fucking never again

>> No.14240047
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>>14240017
That's exactly how it's made in Germany as well

>> No.14240060

>>14240029
potatoes are an American crop, they are not part of traditional European cuisine

>> No.14240074

>>14240045
I can suck, especially if the dressing is too bland or doesn't have enough time to penetrate the potatoes.

>> No.14240093 [DELETED] 

>>14240029
So USA now owns south America. Have you told them that? I think they would like to know. Learn some fucking geography jerk.

>> No.14240098

>>14240093
Monroe Doctrine

>> No.14240101

>>14240060
Explain American. You seem to have your country and a different continent mixed up.

>> No.14240103

>>14240093
>So USA now owns south America. Have you told them that? I think they would like to know.
I'm pretty sure they're more than aware of all the dictators we've put in power.

>> No.14240106

>>14240101
I never said USA owns potatoes, what are you talking about?

>> No.14240127

>>14240106
They're not American are they? They are from South America. You are not South America.

>> No.14240135

>>14240127
In the context of agricultural history you have American crops and old world crops, not sure why this is confusing to you, it does not imply the USA specifically

But keep in mind that potatoes were widespread before the USA was populated, so they can legitimately claim it to be a traditional part of the cuisine unlike Europeans for which it is a recent addition

>> No.14240156

>>14240135
So before the Europeans went to USA, who the fuck was eating potatoes in the USA? They're not traditional at all. Not even from your own continent. Your lefty education is bewildering. No wonder your all dumb.

>> No.14240166

ITT: two retarded faggots arguing about nothing

>> No.14240177

>>14240156
what are you talking about man?
No one was eating potatoes in the USA before the USA existed, what the fuck kind of question is that?

>> No.14240184

>>14240177
So how can they be traditional in the USA?

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14240199

well I live in Germany and mommy always made it with mayo. Never was a real big fan of it but it's alright especially for BBQ. Brings back memories. Haven't had it in potentially decades now.

>> No.14240202

>>14240184
because the concept of USA cuisine postdates potatoes becoming common

>> No.14240217

>>14240202
USA got their potatoes from the Europeans, who in turn first got them from Peru. Europeans had potatoes 200 years before the USA existed.

>> No.14240238

>>14240217
Yeah, thats what I am saying. The very fact that USA cuisine was created by European people like 150 years ago means potatoes are a part of it. European cuisine goes so much further back so potatoes are not part of it traditionally

There is no US cuisine pre-potato, thats never been a thing, meanwhile the vast majority of European history is without potato

>> No.14240239

Ramsay does a warm potato salad that's really tasty. He takes new potatoes boiled the day before and crushes them in a pot with some warmed olive oil until they're heated through. Salt, pepper, diced scallion, a little crab meat (optional), and drizzles in a vinaigrette with olive oil, a little water, and lemon juice. Mix it all together, stir in a little fresh cilantro, and you're good to go.

>> No.14240253

>>14240238
Now you're arguing against your previous comment. Are you schizo?

>> No.14240269

>>14240239
I make mine with boiled potatoes, diced onion, capers, sliced black olives and dressed with a French salad dressing mixed with dijon mustard. Salt and pepper too, of course.

>> No.14240288

>>14240253
You seem to have been very confused this entire time I have in no way been inconsistent

>> No.14240302
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14240302

you faggots need to stop arguing about a fucking salad

>> No.14240312

>>14240288
How can potatoes be traditional in a land where nobody was eating potatoes until the Europeans brought them there? And you say they are a traditional food for you, but not for the people that brought them to your country? Europeans have had potatoes in their diet for 450 years.

>> No.14240318

>>14240302
Is it a salad or potatoes with dressing?

>> No.14240326

>>14240318
I guess anything cold with an acid/fat dressing is considered a salad but im not a chef.

>> No.14240337

>>14239377
you were deprived by the addition of mustard and mayo?

>> No.14240348

>>14240337
Vinegar/oil/mustard emulsion tastes better than mayo.

>> No.14240349

>>14240312
>How can potatoes be traditional in a land where nobody was eating potatoes until the Europeans brought them there?
Tradition is a cultural thing not a geographic thing. Americans have literally always been eating potatoes, therefore it is traditional. Europeans did not start eating potatoes until long after their culture developed, therefore not traditional

>> No.14240354

>>14240348
or just mix mayo and mustard

>> No.14240360

>>14240047
Dog food, germans were a mistake it’s so unbelievable how bad their food is.

>> No.14240375

>>14240349
USA. Founded by Europeans. Your roots are European.

>> No.14240379

>>14240354
Lacks the acidity of vinegar.

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14240393

>>14240360
you know nothing

>> No.14240398

>>14239377
American here, I just discovered Germay on a map. Holy shit, I had no idea you guys weren't neighboring with Russia. The more you know!

>> No.14240430

>>14240393
>Rollmops
I can't get those at my local grocery store anymore and I miss them so much. Also the beer aisle sucks now because spics have the same pisswater sensibilities as white trash.

>> No.14240439

>>14240375
yeah, almost 100%, that doesn't change what I am saying

>> No.14240445

>>14240379
isn't vinegar already a component of both mayo and mustard?

>> No.14240494

>>14240445
Mayo should have a touch of lemon juice. American mustard should never be used for dressing. You need a mustard that tastes of mustard. French's is basically vinegar and turmeric with a tiny bit of mustard that you can't really taste.

>> No.14240502

>>14240445
English mustard has no vinegar whatsoever. It is potent as hell.

>> No.14240517

>>14240502
French and German style mustards are much more common in the US than English
>>14240494
>American mustard should never be used for dressing
Yellow mustard is basically only used for hot dogs and burgers, Americans usually buy dijon for cooking applications. Maybe its less so in Coastie land, but in the midwest there is a huge variety of mustards available

>> No.14240540

>>14240517
Try and get your hands on Colman's English Mustard. It will smack your sinuses with a baseball bat.

>> No.14240747

>>14240045
Always a good laugh to see a European call someone a mutt. It's like you have no idea about the history of Europe at all.

>> No.14240771

>>14239802
based

>> No.14240775

>>14240047
wieso äpfel alter

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>>14240747

>> No.14240843

>>14240835
Do you really think real Americans look like le california man meme?

>> No.14240854

>>14240843
>real American
>gets fired and wife leaves him because he said nigger online 15 years ago

>> No.14240863

>>14240747
Your country is only about 250 years old. Europeans are a lot, lot older than that. Hence the white skin.

>> No.14240864

>>14240854
eh, thats pretty strictly a coastie thing

>> No.14240869

>>14240863
african populations are much, much older, so shouldn't they have white skin by that logic?

>> No.14240890

>>14240869
Exactly. If humans were descended from apes, what are black people? Sub species, I reckon.

>> No.14240906

>>14240890
all humans are descended from black people, the crazy part is modern white Americans and Europeans are more closely related to certain subsaharan African populations than some such African populations are related to eachother

>> No.14240911

>>14240890
Humans have alien DNA, we were enginered from apes, not born from

>> No.14240912

>>14240906
So blacks segregated themselves and blamed whitey? Same as today.

>> No.14240916

>>14240911
we what now?

>> No.14240917

>>14240911
Yeah. You want to show me that alien DNA and explain why blacks don't have it?

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>>14240911

>> No.14240950

>>14240047
>Northge*man (((salad)))

>> No.14240987

If it doesn't have ACV and bacon grease it's not real potato salad

>> No.14240991

>>14240987
bacon grease is solid at room temperature. Why would you put warm bacon grease on cold food so it solidifies?

>> No.14241003

>>14240991
just trust me on this one. potato salad made with bacon grease is on a whole new level. it doesn't solidify in a bad way

>> No.14241010

>>14240991
Also it gets added when the potatoes are still hot.
I don't have a recipe written down sadly.

>> No.14241024

>>14241003
>>14241010
But the best potato salad requires the potatoes and dressing to be refrigerated for a few hours.

>> No.14241259

>>14240863
The United States (1788) is older than Germany (1870)

>> No.14241270

>>14239377
Eewwwweeeeewwwwewwwewe! Vinegar bad for midwestern tummies <:@

>> No.14241349

>>14241259
You think Germany didn't really exist before 1870? Stop getting your education from Wikipedia.

>> No.14241352

>>14241259
US founded 1776. Don't even know your own history.

>> No.14241354

>>14241349
Germany was formed well after the USA.

>> No.14241385

>>14241354
That is political Germany you are looking at. Germany as a country existed long before that. Stop educating yourself from Wikipedia.

>> No.14241395

>>14241354
If you go by political lists, USA is the OLDEST country in the world. Are you really this fucking sad and believe that?

>> No.14241418

>>14241354
Yet you have Hamburgers that were invented in Germany? Pizzas invented in italy Explain.

>> No.14241458

>>14241385
>he fell for it

>> No.14241466

>>14241349
The Holy Roman Empire was not Germany
>>14241352
I was going by the ratification of the Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence

>> No.14241472

>>14241458
You posted it.

>> No.14241496

>>14241418
Italy was formed in 1850

>> No.14241503

>>14241466
Roman Empire. Are you serious?
Germany and many other countries were countries long before they had a parliament.

>> No.14241510

>>14241496
Italy or Italian parliament? It was always there long before the parliament was formed.

>> No.14241526

>>14239816
Seriously? It's all my family makes anymore. My mom makes a cold version with red onion and some other shit. It's really good

>> No.14241534 [DELETED] 

>>14241526
Why would you put celery with eggs?

>> No.14241563

>>14241496
So according to your statistics USA is the oldest country in the world? Where did all the Europeans come from? Which countries?

>> No.14241580

>>14241496
How can Americans be so dumb? Education or breeding?

>> No.14241600
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>>14241503
No the Holy Roman Empire

>> No.14241613

>>14241563
>Where did all the Europeans come from?
Europe
>>14241510
The Papal States and The Kingdom of Sicily were not Italy

>> No.14241626

>>14241600
And you can't see those German place names on that map?

>> No.14241628

>>14241600
I'm so verklempt right now ;_;
Talk amongst yourselves, I'll give you a topic
The holy roman empire was neither
holy nor
roman nor
an empire
DISCUSS!

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>>14240047
austria should just annex bavaria already this is disgusting

>> No.14241652

>>14241628
And it wasn't the nation of Germany either

>> No.14241654

>>14241613
That's an argument from a 10 year old.
Did I mention Sicily?
"The Papal States, officially the State of the Church, were a series of territories in the Italian Peninsula under the direct sovereign rule of the pope, from the 8th century until 1870."
Your turn.

>> No.14241664

>>14241626
It's a German language map though

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>>14241654

>> No.14241680

>>14240101
*South* America

>> No.14241681

>>14239802
For me it's Olivier salad.

Funnily enough, never seen it in the 'States. Seen it a couple of times in Mexico though, usually at hotels and some restaurants.

>> No.14241695

>>14241664
So what are they in Italian/German/French or whatever. After all no countries existed before the USA. What a joke. Are you actually taught this crap?

>> No.14241710

>>14241695
The Dutch Republic and Portugal are considered to be the first nation states or countries
Nations are largely a 19th century invention

>> No.14241718

>>14239377
I prefer northern style and the mutant version my German family makes since were only second generation at this point. It uses buttermilk and mayo and is chilled. It's also made me a prude because I can only stand both German types. Everything from the store to traditional recipes is America is garbage.

>> No.14241727

>>14241710
But other countries existed long before the 19th century.
"The Battle of Trafalgar (21 October 1805) was a naval engagement fought by the British Royal Navy against the combined fleets of the French and Spanish"
We existed long before then.

>> No.14241739

>>14239710
I grew up in middle tennessee and basically every big summer picnic had this stuff. I didn't like it when I was a kid but I love vinegar now so it's great
>>14240017
it either needs to be hot or cold. room temperature is crap

>> No.14241742

>>14241710
Your American education is fucking weird.

>> No.14241773

>>14241742
Are you paying for your education or on a grant? European countries existed long before the USA.

>> No.14241782

>>14240156
>European """"education""". No wonder you fucks can't go more than 50 years without trying to genocide someone.

>> No.14241791

>>14241710
Post a link to this BS.

>> No.14241798

>>14241782
European or German? Don't get confused.

>> No.14241801

>>14241727
>British
containing England, Scotland, and Wales, 3 different kingdoms, now countries
>French
1789, before that it was a kingdom where less than half the people spoke French
>Spain
A puppet kingdom of France in 1805

>> No.14241817

>>14241791
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=nation+state

>> No.14241819

This is the dumbest thread in the history of 4chan

>> No.14241824

>>14241801
One Kingdom. That's why it's called the United Kingdom, Duh.
Languages don't depict you country boundaries.
France are more more muppets than puppets.

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>>14241418
If ground meat formed into a patty and then cooked is all it takes to make a hamburger, then Rome beat them to it. Maybe even other civilizations. The hamburger has very little to do with the german hamburger steak which is closer to salisbury steak.

Making ground beef into sandwiches later with cheese and various condiments was an American thingy.

>> No.14241828

>>14241819
So you enjoy trap threads then?

>> No.14241840

>>14241827
Was the recipe ever written down? Hamburger steak? It's ground beef. Salisbury steak? It's a burger with gravy

>> No.14241843

>>14241828
Yes. Feminine penis's aren't gay.

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14241861

This is the kind I fell in love with in Bavaria. I live in California, and the places that have "German potato salad" out here have something else closer to what OP posted.

This is the superior kind. All other KArtoffelSalats suck C*ck by choice.

>> No.14241868

>>14241843
I've got news for you. They are.

>> No.14241872

>>14241861
That is nothing like German potato salad.

>> No.14241882

>>14241868
Oh, so now you're the expert on all things queer?

>> No.14241898

>>14240166
that's every thread

>> No.14241920

>>14241898
Yet here you are. Commenting.

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14241991

My favorite is deviled egg potato salad.

>> No.14242451

>>14239377
Wait until you find out about Hawaii mac and potato salad retard

>> No.14242455

>>14241991
Hey mom, how are you?

>> No.14242461

>>14242451
Don't care. Brown's are gross.

>> No.14242528

>>14241681
aka belgian salad, it's invented by a fucking belgian of all people

>> No.14242860

>>14241872
Well I lived in Germany for almost 5 years and thats what they kept giving me every time o ordered "Kartoffell Salat" Except sometimes it had bacon in it. It looked just like that.

>> No.14242869

>>14240156
I'm pretty sure some Native Americans were eating potatoes my dude.

>> No.14243095

>>14240156
You're spectacularly uninformed. Potatoes are native to the Americas, NOT EUROPE. The Inca famously had THOUSANDS of different varieties.

Potatoes weren't introduced in Europe until like the 16th century.

Lrn2History my dude.

>> No.14243129

>>14240047
looks good

>> No.14243146
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"The Inca Indians in Peru were the first to cultivate potatoes around 8,000 BC to 5,000 B.C. In 1536 Spanish Conquistadors conquered Peru, discovered the flavors of the potato, and carried them to Europe. Sir Walter Raleigh introduced potatoes to Ireland in 1589 on the 40,000 acres of land near Cork."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.potatogoodness.com/potato-fun-facts-history/&ved=2ahUKEwjEqs_Ot4DqAhWCGDQIHVTPDWAQFjAWegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw31-bMkodHmQ8JKjVH-eIIN

>> No.14243720

>>14242860
5 years and you still don't know it is called "Kartoffelsalat"?

>> No.14243723

>>14242869
Big chief running spud. Not very well known, was he?

>> No.14243725

>>14243095
Read my other posts and stop making a fool of yourself.

>> No.14243747

>>14240991
>>14241003
>>14241010
If you add the warm bacon grease slowly to your mayonnaise/whatever sauce and whisk it vigorously, the grease generally tends to emulsify in the sauce and never coagulate or harden even at cooler temperatures.

>> No.14243756

>>14243747
Why would you add bacon grease to fat laden mayonnaise? Over time the fat will separate and go solid. The mayo you buy in jars is not proper mayonnaise. It's snow white for a start.

>> No.14243760

>>14243756
I usually make my mayo from scratch, if it's going to play a major role in flavouring something. Also, by incorporating the bacon fat, I can cut down on the amount of mayo I have to use in the first place.
>Over time the fat will separate and go solid
To be completely honest, I've never had my potato salad last long enough for it to separate.

>> No.14244079

In Spain we make them both ways as well, either mayo based or vinaigrette based.

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>>14241739
>hot potato salad
That just sounds horrid, please elaborate.

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>>14239414
>it tastes like ass

you sound like the voice of experience

>> No.14245172

>>14244992
it's german potato salad. cooked potatoes, onions, beans, maybe some pork all covered in vinegar. it's great hot and anytime I've ever gotten it in a restaurant it's hot but often at picnics people bring it chilled.