how many bottles a week

[Anonymous No.14233425]

would you consider alcoholism?

[Anonymous No.14233433]

1/2

[Anonymous No.14233434]

fifths: 7
12 packs: 84

[Anonymous No.14233909]

>>14233425
If you drink more than 2 bottles a week, you're an alcoholic. If you drink 2 bottles a week, you're on the verge of being an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.14233951]

If you drink a pint of liquor in one sitting you have a problem

[Anonymous No.14234615]

>>14233425
a bottle per month is my threshold

[Anonymous No.14234678]

>>14233425
Can you drink cooking sherry?

[Anonymous No.14234682]

I down half a bottle every friday/saturday/sunday night and could go without it for 10 years if i wanted to. Not becoming chemically dependant is all about knowing your own body and controlling it.
Oh, and before you guys say, idgaf about muh liver damage, i'd rather die soon having had lots of happy moments here and there than living 90 years of the boringest life imaginable.

[Anonymous No.14234790]

>>14233425
4 bottle a year

[Anonymous No.14234848]

>>14234682
How does that much alcohol make you happy? I shake if i have less than a beer every three hours, and cry uncontrollably if i drink more than two.

I used to drink more but i was addicted to drugs and i wanted the drugs to kill me but they didnt they just made me retarded.

[Anonymous No.14234902]

>>14233951
I don't have a problem.

[Anonymous No.14234910]

>>14234848
>How does that much alcohol make you happy?
It makes me drunk, and then i can just find a lot of fun and joy on the simplest shit and just not care for a few hours.
When i'm sober i am just like a fucking robot. No feelings at all, bad or good. Don't know what kind of mental problems i have but i was also like this before starting to drink. When i'm alcoholized is the only time when i feel something.

[Anonymous No.14234949]

>>14234910
everyone feels like that while sober, most people are just better at hiding it

[Anonymous No.14234966]

Alcohol is wrong. Wake up people

[Anonymous No.14234976]

>>14233425
If the unit you're working with is "bottles [of whisky] a week", you're an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.14235016]

I drank 3 handles last week

[Anonymous No.14235028]

>>14233425
The amount of alcohol you drink has nothing to do with addiction. What makes an addiction is when it becomes a problem in your life and you have a desire to quit but can't.

[Anonymous No.14235029]

>>14233425
>Does it fuck with your life in any noticeable way?
Alcoholic
>Would you have a hard time going without for a couple of months?
Alcoholic
>Is it likely to kill you in 10 coming years?
Alcoholic

[Anonymous No.14235041]

>>14234910
You gotta go to rehab

[Anonymous No.14235045]

>>14233425
More than 1. Even one is more than a normal person would drink.

[Anonymous No.14235079]

>>14235045
I can tell you're not normal so your opinion is invalid anyway.

[Anonymous No.14235132]

>>14235079
Anon most people don't go through a bottle a week you have a problem.

[Anonymous No.14235149]

If you're drinking to the point where you have to ask yourself "do I have alcoholism?" then you're an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.14235159]

>>14235149
So it's wrong to question things, gotcha.

[Anonymous No.14235164]

>>14235159
Why are alkies always such catty little bitches?
How is alcoholism even a thing? Literally just don't drink lmao.

[Anonymous No.14235170]

>>14233425
Depends on how cheap the bottle

[Anonymous No.14235173]

>>14235164
So you have no empathy and have binary thought, gotcha. >>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.14235177]

>>14233425
Amount matters a lot less than the effects your drinking behaviors have on your life.
If your drinking is causing problems at school, at work, in family or romantic relationships or if you are suffering physical or psychological health problems related to drinking habits, then you probably meet some criteria for an alcohol use disorder.
Alcoholism is a meaningless term, btw, its completely outdated and inaccurate know that we understand the biological mechanisms behind alcohol addiction rather than the moral depravity and bs that 12 steps spout.

[Anonymous No.14235185]

>>14235173
>a bloo bloo y don't you feel sorry for me
Nah go beg someone else to enable you, faggot.

[Anonymous No.14235193]

Question not trying to br a judgy prick because I was a heavy drinker in my early 20s. How the fuck do you feel good after drinking? I Cannot handle alcohol anymore and I am nearing 30, anything more than 3 beers(big ones) I get bad headaches and feel like shit.

[Anonymous No.14235210]

>>14235185
Empathy is the ability to understand how someone else feels. Sympathy is feeling sorry for someone. You can empathize with someone but still disagree with them. But you're a robot still running on a 1985 processor, so i understand.

[Anonymous No.14235411]

As soon as you think you can drink amd drive, that is true alcoholism.

[Anonymous No.14235656]

>>14234682
>if I wanted to
but you just don't want, right?

[Anonymous No.14235742]

>bottles
>s
>plural
If you have to ask, you already are

[Anonymous No.14236107]

>>14235041
Why? I'm not an alcoholic, there is no chemical dependence. I've gone months without the thing without any physical symptoms or consequences at all. It seems to me like your definition of an addict is kinda twisted.

[Anonymous No.14236125]

>>14235028
/thread
Every single other poster in this thread is retarded.

[Anonymous No.14236140]

the later you drink, the less dependent you are.

[Anonymous No.14236163]

Are you an al/ck/oholic if you finish a handle per week between you and your wife? I feel like it's not too bad but it feels like a lot when you say it

[Anonymous No.14236165]

>>14233425
alcoholism is more of why you drink, your ability to control how much you drink when you drink, and whether you know you will commit regrettable actions if you drink. You can be a drunk without being an alcoholic, tho usually you are probably an alcoholic. Not always tho. You can also be an alcoholic without drinking. You can be an alcoholic without ever taking a drink in your life, and you would never know. Alcoholism is funny. You can be born with it, or you can develop it over time, or from trauma, whatever. A guy in my old aa meetings was a paramedic for years and snapped after having a call for a drunk driver who killed a whole family. He cried almost every session. I don’t go to meetings, and I do drink every now and then, but for me the issue was more in my head. I don’t drink a lot when I do drink, and I only drink at times I can’t get in a lot of trouble. I know I shouldn’t drink, but fuck it. I’m just waiting to die anyway.

[Anonymous No.14236220]

>>14233425
here’s the actual medical answer:

[Anonymous No.14236286]

>>14236220
>yes, yes, yes, yes

[Anonymous No.14236290]

>>14233425
One bottle a day.

[Anonymous No.14236306]

>>14236286
likewise, big yikes

[Anonymous No.14236370]

I still drink but not as much as when I was young. When I was really bad I would always go to /hooch/.
If you can relate to more than 25% of the posts there you got a problem

[Anonymous No.14236388]

>>14234678
Pretty sure if you're going to the cooking sherry and mouthwash you're definitely an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.14236413]

>>14235028
Found the pseud, this is the gayest definition imaginable. It’s the same kind of subjective horseshit qualification the woke mob uses to destroy careers and ruin lives. Kys

[Anonymous No.14236481]

>>14236413
Talk about pseud...

[Anonymous No.14236491]

>>14236481
>phoneposter
>at&t
>using google in 2020
your opinion is meaningless

[Anonymous No.14236500]

>>14236491
Oh, it's the schizo that keeps spazzing out in every thread. Hey there buddy, it's time to take your meds.

[Anonymous No.14236501]

I don't drink at all

[Anonymous No.14236503]

>>14236481
You’re a fucking idiot and a sheep. Functional alcoholics are all over the place

[Anonymous No.14236504]

>>14236491
>only people who sit at their desktops are allowed to speak on the internet
ok fatty

[Anonymous No.14236565]

>>14234910
seconding the other anon, you need help brother

[Anonymous No.14236584]

750 ml bottle? One. That's over two shots per day.

[Anonymous No.14236586]

>>14234910
This seems backwards, I feel things a lot more vividly sober. Getting drunk lets me forget about bills and shit

[Anonymous No.14236622]

>>14235045
This. I drink pretty heavily i though and drink maybe 8 shots a week and maybe a few beers. You shouldn't be binge drinking and you shouldn't drink every day

[Anonymous No.14236651]

>>14234848
shake like withdrawal symptoms? you might have kindling bro www.hams.cc

[Anonymous No.14236723]

>>14236503
You obviously don't know what that phrase means. They are "functional" during daily life, but the amount they drink is destroying their bodies, yet they can't stop drinking. Now go take your meds little guy.

[Anonymous No.14236731]

>>14236503
Here you go anon. Once you're back on your meds and stable again, you can educate yourself a bit.
https://www.alcohol.org/faq/what-is-a-functioning-alcoholic/

[Anonymous No.14236738]

>>14236584
>two shots a day
That makes you an alcoholic according to the underage redditors in here

[Anonymous No.14236741]

>>14236504
>only people who sit at their desktops are allowed to speak on the internet
No, do whatever the fuck you want, nobody cares. Although your opinion is significantly less valid on 4chan if you are posting from a zoomerphone.

[Anonymous No.14236768]

Actual BCBA here, there are 2 aspects to addiction. First the behavioral: addiction satisfies one of the behavioral functions, and this can be different for each person. Some drink to ESCAPE, some to AVOID, and some drink for SENSORY STIMULATION. In other words, an alcoholic is reliant on the effects of alcohol to satisfy a behavioral function.

The second part of addiction is chemical/physical addiction. An alcoholics brain and body are reliant on alcohol chemically to function normally. This is why there are withdraw symptoms when trying to stop.

[Anonymous No.14236775]

>>14236738
>>14236584
I got caught drinking and driving and had to go through a D&D education course for a year. They taught us the 1-2-3 rule of drinking moderately. 1 drink an hour, 2 drinks a day, 3 on a special occasion.

[Anonymous No.14236793]

>>14236768
This. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking moron who needs to go back to high school health class.

[Anonymous No.14236806]

>>14235045
came here to post this

[Anonymous No.14236811]

>>14236768
At what stage does it become pathologic?

[Anonymous No.14236812]

>>14236775
>1 drink an hour, 2 drinks a day, 3 on a special occasion.
>2 drinks a day
Do you only weigh 100lb?

[Anonymous No.14236821]

>>14236811
Addiction is a disease, so at the point you become addicted.

[Anonymous No.14236827]

>>14236812
I didn't say that's the bare minimum requirement for not negatively effecting your health.

[Anonymous No.14236842]

>>14236821
Nice circular logic

[Anonymous No.14236874]

>>14236842
I think you don't understand the meaning of "pathological". "Pathological" has two primary definitions. So you're either asking me "at what point does alcoholism become a disease?" And the answer is that alcoholism IS a disease, so at the point you become addicted. Or you're asking "at what point does alcoholism become an obsession?" And the answer is that alcoholism is synonymous with obsession, so again, at the point you become addicted.

[Anonymous No.14236879]

>>14236874
Sorry meant to say "addiction is synonymous with obsession." But alcoholism is a type of addiction so basically still right.

[Anonymous No.14236887]

I'd honestly say 1/2 a handle a week is pretty much the borderline of alcoholism. Anons saying 2 bottles are fucked, 2 bottles a week is deep into the red zone

[Anonymous No.14236915]

>>14236879
How can one tell if one is an alcoholic?

[Anonymous No.14236929]

>>14236915
If you find yourself regularly disregarding other aspects of life because you want to get drunk, see if you're able to stop for a couple of months. If you find yourself feeling you need to drink alcohol, well there you go.

[Anonymous No.14236936]

>>14236915
See >>14236768

[Anonymous No.14236942]

Forget whole bottles, if you drink hard liquor every single day, you are an alcoholic. So I'd say even 1 bottle a week for 1 person is alcoholic tier.

[Anonymous No.14236954]

>>14236936
So what, do you need both? Do you need a certain level of just one?

[Anonymous No.14236985]

>>14233951
Only if you're drinking alone.

[Anonymous No.14237033]

>>14236985
>Only if you're drinking alone.
That's such a dumb meme. Why would a man not enjoy a drink on his own?

[Anonymous No.14237040]

>>14236954
>Do you need both
It depends on the person. That was just a general and literal definition, but there are other factors that pertain to each individual that make their situation different. That's why it's important to talk to a doctor before self diagnosing. And some addictions are different, like as gambling addict is in part due to the endorphins released, but the behavioral side of the addiction is usually much stronger than the physical.
>Do you need a certain level of just one.
Again it depends on the person. If you drink one beer a day, and rely on that one beer to stay functioning, then regardless of the alcohol content you are reliant on that beer.

Maybe a simpler way of saying it is: addiction is a reliance on a specific action or chemical to function normally. While at the same time, that action or chemical is significantly disruptive to a part of your life or your health.

[Anonymous No.14237043]

>>14236286
Go to rehab

[Anonymous No.14237046]

>>14237033
I do enjoy drinking alone. But its probably problematic.

[Anonymous No.14237053]

>>14236220
I wish someone showed this to me in college

[Anonymous No.14237119]

>>14237040
Thanks. If I'm delusional, then I can't self-diagnose. I can have just one or two drinks. I keep bottles at home and can forget about them. I don't rely on alcohol in everyday life. However, I rely on it in specific social contexts where it's always disruptive to the one or two days follow that night. My problem is, passed a certain amount, I don't feel the sensory stimulation anymore and keep going anyway.

[Anonymous No.14237146]

>>14237119
That seems more like part of an underlying mood disorder. I can't really say more than that because I'm not all too knowledgeable about psych, but if you're relying on drinking to 'get you out' of certain social situations then that's different than doing it recreationally. All I can say is, make sure your life circumstances and the people around you aren't making you feel so shitty that you need an escape.

[Anonymous No.14237297]

>>14237119
BCBA anon here that you were talking about before. >>14237146 meantioned that you are using alcohol as an escape during social situations. In psychology we can't make a diagnosis on symptoms alone. Some doctors do because they are bad doctors. But the frequency of the behavior as well as other factors need to be recorded for a disorder to be diagnosed. Is drinking to cope with social anxiety healthy? No. Does it make it an addiction, not always. It's definitely considered to be an unhealthy coping skill or in my field we call it the "Target Behavior", and that's because it's hurting you in other ways. But everyone has bad habits and shit, talk to a psychiatrist who practices ABA, it's the only form of behavioral therapy that uses 100% evidence based methods. It's currently considered to be the standard therapy, but a lot of doctors are stuck in the past.

[Anonymous No.14237374]

>>14233425
When you are at the point where "bottles per week" is a thing you count.

[Anonymous No.14237386]

>>14234678
>Can you drink cooking sherry?
It's salty as fuck, I wouldn't recommend, but it's cheap.

[Anonymous No.14237388]

>>14233909
This

[Anonymous No.14237393]

>>14233425
If you have to make this thread, you already know that you're an alcoholic. Just embrace it, man.

[Anonymous No.14237398]

How the fuck do people take a shot or drink a beer when hungover to steady their nerves? Even with my lightest hangovers, the mere thought of more alcohol sends me gagging.

[Anonymous No.14237433]

>>14237398
alcoholism morning nerves are different from a hangover. you're still drunk and nervous about what happened the previous night, physical consequences be damned

[Anonymous No.14237446]

>>14237393
what this anon said
if you have to do mental gymnastics to convince yourself you're not an alcoholic then yes, you are an alcoholic

[Anonymous No.14237472]

Is drinking a fifth in one weekend a sign of alcoholism?

[Anonymous No.14237476]

>>14236887
try 3 handles a week
t, no visible symptoms so am not an alchie

[Anonymous No.14237486]

>>14237476
>no visible symptoms
Not yet...it takes time for the liver damage to set in

[Anonymous No.14237498]

>>14237472
As an isolated case? More a sign of bad decisionmaking.

[Anonymous No.14237508]

>>14237486
Meant withdrawal symptoms, I don't need to drink I just enjoy it. The liver thing is probably catching up to me since it takes at least 5 drinks an hour to feel it.

[Anonymous No.14237549]

>>14235193
It was easier when we were younger. At the very most now I will drink 6-8 beers on saturday and 2-3 beers Sunday through Monday. Getting old sucks

[Anonymous No.14237667]

I wish there was a pill you could take to die in your sleep peacefully

[Anonymous No.14237698]

>>14237374
I can't keep track, so I guess I'm fine.

[Anonymous No.14237709]

>>14233425
for me, it was 2 1/2 handles of everclear a week

[Anonymous No.14237762]

>>14237667
there are plenty of those. speaking of that, i will say to anyone, who like me, was an alcoholic because of terrible, life-long insomnia, that there is a cure: ambien. miracle drug imo. i stopped drinking as soon as i got a prescription. now i sleep the whole night through every night. i have never felt better. it's been 5 years since i started it and my life has changed for the better in every respect.

[Anonymous No.14237819]

>>14233909
This

[Anonymous No.14237836]

>>14233425
femanon here, i drink 3 bottles of creme de menthe per week

[Anonymous No.14237849]

>>14237698
>Doesn't know that that's worse

[Anonymous No.14237856]

>>14237836
Why? You are a woman. You have no reason to drink that much at all.

[Anonymous No.14237894]

>>14237856
Anon, she has a dick.

[Anonymous No.14237904]

>>14237856
Where I come from she would have to drink that much to keep up with her peers.

[Anonymous No.14238181]

>>14233425
Fuck off already, can't you goddamn drunk faggots check the catalog and post in the other fucking 20 goddamn alcohol threads?

[Anonymous No.14238252]

>>14238181
Someone got beaten by their drunk dad. Or was it raped?

[Anonymous No.14238253]

>>14238181
al/ck/ies are the ponyfaggots of /ck/
no one really wants them but they just won't fuck off

[Anonymous No.14238266]

>>14238253
>>14238181

[Anonymous No.14238961]

>>14237146
>>14237297
To get it straight, I'm not socially anxious, I don't use to cope with situations. I just get wasted with a certain group of friends on occasions. Once a month or so.

[Anonymous No.14238989]

>>14234682
Gotta give up substances and intoxicants bro, your body will thank you. Puts you on the 8 fold path too, if that's something you want to pursue