Beer general

[Anonymous No.14202032]

What did I think of this?

[Anonymous No.14202052]

>>14202032
It's good and serves as excellent Welsh representation to the world

[Anonymous No.14202056]

>>14202032
I'd try it

[Anonymous No.14202059]

You paid £16 for a 4 pack - it best be good.

[Anonymous No.14202067]

You thought that like almost all of tiny rebels output it was a bit of a mediocre base for the artificial flavourings and you've had better, but at least it was relatively cheap.

As their output grows and they seek out places capable of taking the resulting 'stack it high sell it cheap' their craft credentials evaporate by the day and you figure out that you are happier to pay more for something exceptional because then it wasn't overpriced rather than pay a little less for something that was actually disappointing.

Also tick tick tick on the whole operation gearing itself up for a buyout because that is usually what follows once you've got the branding, the process and the access to markets. Make it look a bit nicer on paper, shave a few more corners, nice brand to add to the portfolio for another multinational.

Wish them all the best, payday for the founders, but they don't get any of my money any more.

[Anonymous No.14202134]

>>14202067
Why would they need to sell the company if they turned over 7 million last year?

Also the beers are excellent, and you are very very salty my dude

[Anonymous No.14202157]

>>14202134
Because no matter what your motivations are when you start a company most are eventually looking for the exit. You want to make great beer so you do, you can't make enough of it, you grow, you spend more on staff and you've got to make a certain amount of beer to pay the staff, it becomes a management gig first, great beer second. You want to attract and retain excellent staff so you keep growing and expanding and each person who comes through has great ideas to develop or grow something and it isn't long (if you are suitably equipped mentally) before you are a size where it all becomes process, time and motion. It has to be to protect the business and because so many rely upon you now.

So a company comes along and offers you a few hundred million and there is your payday. You'd be insane not to take it as usually by this point it has grown to something so far removed from what you started off with that you aren't even that aware of what is going on, it runs itself.

Also lol 7 million turn over like that is a big deal. They are up to 30,000hL a year, 600+ pints an hour every hour of every day and night and they've just put in a new canning line, the sort of multimillion pound line that invariably turns you into supermarket fodder. 15,000 cans an hour have to go somewhere and thus must contain something supermarket friendly in terms of style, price, abv and stability.

Breweries that are still beer forward don't produce 600+ pints an hour because that kind of output is motivated by something else, the desire to be a successful brand and to play on the international stage which is to attract the attention of multinationals.

I'm not even salty about it. I just see it for what it is and don't even hate on them for it. I just choose to buy from other breweries because I'm more interested in the guys who are still at the beer first and foremost stage and there are new ones starting up every day.

[Anonymous No.14202171]

>>14202134
Also when you start up you hate on big companies for controlling access to market because it keeps you out but when you get bigger suddenly you realise why you've also got to do it. They offer cash incentives to venues for taking permanent lines specifically to exclude smaller breweries from occupying those lines and to spread awareness of their brand. Oh hey want to take some of this profit and use it to make better beer? No bro, I'd much rather give kickbacks to venues to control access to market and to exclude smaller local breweries from access to market. Oh super cool. I get the whole 'rebel' aesthetic that you trade upon too. I don't even hate upon them for it, but I see it for what it is and it is the side of the beer industry that I don't support or engage with.

[Anonymous No.14202270]

>>14202032
designed by a wet brain for wet brains.

[Anonymous No.14202401]

>>14202032
Gonna be honest, stick with Reinheitsgebot beer
>>14202270
Ironic since alcoholism can cause wet brain

[Anonymous No.14203034]

>>14202270
Have you tried it?

[Anonymous No.14203188]

>>14202032
>waffle, bacon, AND marshmallow
why not stick with just marshmallow?

[Anonymous No.14203205]

>>14202032
I can't tell if that beer is supposed to turn you into a baby, a gay, or both

[Anonymous No.14203630]

>>14203188
This is a variation of their regular marshmallow porter

[Anonymous No.14203638]

>>14203630
What is added ingredient wise?

[Anonymous No.14203656]

>>14203638
Bacon and waffle. Going to try this one next.

[Anonymous No.14203665]

>>14203656
I’m really basic with beer, Dunkel lagers or maybe a bock. Is it a sweet tooth that steers your choices or are you just adventurous?

[Anonymous No.14203672]

>>14203665
Their marshmallow porter is actually a very good dark beer. Bought these as they are a small batch brew of variation offshoots.

[Anonymous No.14203693]

>>14203672
Not big on sweets but I’ll give it a go if I see one at the shop. I’d reccomend this to you, great beer and the rest of their line is top notch

[Anonymous No.14203795]

>>14203693
Nice, I'll look out for it

[Anonymous No.14203815]

>>14202157
man I hope my brewery sells and I get a payout...

this was our owners goal when we opened in 2015 but lots of competition and a slow start (homebrewer turned "brewmaster" that didn't understand the market) made the exponential growth impossible. been on a solid upturn the last 3 years though.

[Anonymous No.14203894]

>>14202032
I hate soi jacks, but this beer is like pure concentrated soi jack in beer form, holy shit

[Anonymous No.14203916]

>>14202032
i like a lot of tiny rebels output

pineapple express (colab with pollys) is a staple of my regular shops

[Anonymous No.14204047]

>>14203693
mmm i got this and i still have the little neckless to boot

[Anonymous No.14204068]

>>14203815
Payout? This is how it tends to go!

[Anonymous No.14204095]

>>14202401
>Reinheitsgebot
>law passed so they don't drive wheat price up by using it for brewing
>somehow being a hallmark of good beer
lmao kys

[Anonymous No.14204241]

How much is too much?

[Anonymous No.14204262]

[Anonymous No.14204369]

>>14204095
>putting random shit in beer makes it better
C’mon now

[Anonymous No.14204469]

>>14204369
Sometimes it does

[Anonymous No.14204606]

>>14202032
It's generic and distinctly average at best. It doesn't have the body to carry the ABV and if you are going to drink that swill, it's better from Cask.

[Anonymous No.14204607]

>>14204369
>oats are random shit

[Anonymous No.14204634]

>>14204607
Oats are everywhere.
Also, why can't anyone make beer without throwing a bunch of wheat in it now? Oh good, overpowering sweetness and banana in my DIPA. Brilliant, well done guys.

[Anonymous No.14204645]

>>14202032
Faggot beer for faggot hipster faggots.
Real beer doesn’t try to be an alcoholic soda.

[Anonymous No.14204651]

>>14204634
Because most yeast will ferment all barley wort down 80%+ even with elevated mash temperatures. A good DIPA starts at 7.2% which at 85% attenuation has an FG of about 1.009? This is too low to balance the heft of hops used and nobody is wanting to use ale malt, brown malt, crystal malt etc any more because pale straw yellow is beautiful and indicates low dO. Body and sweetness has to come from somewhere and a bag of wheat gets you there. Oats are a bit more contentious with quite a lot of fatty acids potentially contributing to oxidisation and soapy off flavours especially at higher pH.

[Anonymous No.14204665]

>>14204651
I was only using DIPA as an example because it's so clearly out of place. 5 years ago you just wouldn't have seen it. But every beer just seems to be drowning in wheat or of it's a stout they double up on oats for the body.

[Anonymous No.14204666]

>>14204634
>Oh good, overpowering sweetness and banana in my DIPA.
Wouldn't low attenuation and banana hints be from the yeast strain, not from the grain?

[Anonymous No.14204683]

[Anonymous No.14204693]

>>14204665
>>14204666
Wheat malt is dry/biscuity. I swear it is a little sharp and tangy.

[Anonymous No.14204705]

What's a really aggressive beer?

[Anonymous No.14204710]

>>14204705
Aggressive in what sense?

[Anonymous No.14204717]

>>14204705
Cheap pilseners in plastic bottles.

[Anonymous No.14204718]

>>14204705

Sam Adams Utopias is some of the strongest beer out there.

[Anonymous No.14204719]

>>14204710
Something that requires taste and sophistication in order to be appreciated in full depth.

[Anonymous No.14204724]

>>14204666
Banana is wheat. Drink any German wheat beer and the first thing you'll taste is banana and cloves if you're unlucky.

[Anonymous No.14204739]

>>14204724
>Banana is wheat
I made apple cider with wheat beer yeast way back; it had plenty of banana scent and taste, but no wheat to seen anywhere.

[Anonymous No.14204745]

>>14204724
What if I'm lucky?

[Anonymous No.14204776]

>>14204739
I'm not saying you CAN't get banana with yeast. I'm just saying it's the primary flavour wheat brings.

[Anonymous No.14204784]

>>14204776
What beers with wheat heavy grain bills and non-wheat-beer yeasts can you recommend?.

[Anonymous No.14204788]

>>14202032
Okay so I like craft beer and have had some admittedly stupid shit but I have to say what the FUCK?

[Anonymous No.14204799]

>>14204784
Best example typical of its style would probably be Heidiweisse from West Brewery or The Kernel's Wheat Pale ale. The former is best on draught and the latter is bottle conditioned beautifully. I think the Kernel might be one of the best craft brewers with consistently excellent bottle conditioning.

[Anonymous No.14204805]

>>14202032
>Imperial waffle, candied bacon, and marshmallow
>good
>beer
This is starbucks for basedboys

[Anonymous No.14204830]

>>14204805
Don't knock it till you've tried it

[Anonymous No.14204831]

>>14204799
The Kernel's site is being shy, so it's still in the running. West's description of Heidiweisse states that they use wheat-beer yeast, however, so that's not what I asked for.

[Anonymous No.14204842]

>>14204831
My mistake. In that case stick with the Kernels one then.

[Anonymous No.14204857]

>>14202032
>Waffle, candied bacon, marshmallow(artificial flavors)
Serious question to the beer fags, why not just drink bourbon?

[Anonymous No.14204863]

>>14204857
The flavours aren't overly artificial they use most of them in the brewing process.

Drinking spirits and getting a thirst for them is setting on the road to becoming an alchie

[Anonymous No.14204887]

>>14204857
Bourbon is okay but it's a pretty limited spirit. Oh look more vanilla and spiceness. Great. It's like being a wine-drinker and only drinking Pinot Noir. There's nothing wrong with it but why limit yourself.

[Anonymous No.14204931]

>>14204887
>poorfag deteted

Spend a little more and develop a palate.

[Anonymous No.14204932]

>>14204842
If I encounter it I will, but since I eschew American-Wheat beers, because they lack the flavors that I want in a wheat beer, I doubt it will convince me that's it's the wheat driving people bananas. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.14204948]

>>14204719
Wine.

[Anonymous No.14204959]

>>14204745
>What if I'm lucky?
You get banana and cloves; and they get beer goggles.

[Anonymous No.14205178]

>>14204724
>Banana is wheat.
It's not. The banana flavor you get from hefeweizen is from the yeast used to ferment it, which produces the ester isoamyl acetate which is also used as artificial banana flavor.
t. currently furloughed from a brewery

[Anonymous No.14205266]

>>14203815
I hope you have equity signed over or you won't get anything.

[Anonymous No.14205271]

>>14204959
Are those supposed to be attractive women? Give me the beer goggles.

[Anonymous No.14205853]

itt
>DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spend more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

[Anonymous No.14205857]

Holy fuck that shit looks gay. Beer fags are worse than hot sauce collectors. Just buy a 6 pack of miller or Dos Equis with lime if you’re feeling exotic and calll it a day and get off that fruity bacon coffee fag shit

[Anonymous No.14205858]

>>14205853
Simply based. I hate fun too!

[Anonymous No.14205882]

>>14205858
>you can't have fun unless you're a numale

[Anonymous No.14205902]

>>14204665
I love banana

[Anonymous No.14205920]

>>14205857
I too would like to drink the same tasteless lager day after day.

[Anonymous No.14205924]

>>14204705
Steel reserve makes you really aggressive

[Anonymous No.14205947]

>>14205853
So you hate beer, cities, and video games? Why do you hate fun? And I'm asking this as a ruralfag. Cities are great with plenty of stuff to do. It's just a shame that it's so expensive to live there.

[Anonymous No.14205959]

>>14205920

Dude. That shits gay.

[Anonymous No.14206128]

>>14204724
You mean the banana + clove is the first thing you'll taste if you *are* lucky or the beer isn't shit. That's why you drink a Hefeweizen.

I don't mind American wheats, but they're not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.14206144]

>>14202171
I brew at home and make pretty good beer as far as I can tell (as well as all my beer mooching friends). But this shit is why the last thing I'd want to do is make it my job. Could I brew well enough people would pay for it? Probably. Could I market / manage / guzzle cocks well enough to make the business go? Please, I'd rather have a mash paddle in my hand.

[Anonymous No.14206621]

God help me, the only thing worth buying are west coast IPAs. I can drink any beer besides sour beer or coffee stouts if you offer me a free beer, but none of it's worth buying if it isn't a refreshing, hop heavy, bone dry, citrusy westcoast IPA

[Anonymous No.14207853]

What's the closest thing to a sessionable lower ABV Tripel?
Thinking the drier type like Chimay rather than Westmalle.

[Anonymous No.14208887]

>>14205857
Flyover detected

[Anonymous No.14209150]

>>14208887
tons of craft beer comes from flyover states

[Anonymous No.14209228]

>>14209150
Only craft beer that appeals to hicks comes out of flyover states.

[Anonymous No.14209288]

>star wars
>WACKY flavours!
>unnecessarily alcoholic

Soi boys should be shot

[Anonymous No.14209766]

>>14204718
paying $300 for beer when you can buy a good bourbon for $40-50.

[Anonymous No.14209767]

>>14202032
>muh umami beer

please don't fall for the fad

[Anonymous No.14210379]

>>14209288
I fucking hate the soyshit too but they're actually good beers.

They need the alcohol to balance the sweetness.

[Anonymous No.14210405]

>>14209288
Imagine being this retarded