Quitting Veganism

[Anonymous No.14198420]

>14 years vegan
>Sick of the “community”
>Become weird separatist vegan for many years
>Wake up one day and want salmon & eggs
>Fuck the world
>Make pic related
>Now infinitely happier that I can eat anything I want

I thought I’d struggle to adapt to it but I’m a few weeks in now and I’m fine.

Ask me anything.

[Anonymous No.14198429]

>>14198420
welcome to the ex vegan master race

we eat anything but also don't have a weird hangup about dishes that don't contain meat

[Anonymous No.14198434]

>>14198420
>>14198429
glad you fuckers realized you can eat whatever you want and not be a flaming homo about it

[Anonymous No.14198438]

>>14198420
why did you go vegan in the first place and didnt just eat whats best without and limitations, were it the ethics or something?

[Anonymous No.14198446]

>>14198438
This was my favourite album when I was 15

[Anonymous No.14198460]

>>14198446
so you just went with that vegan straight edge kinda crowd?
interesting though, i was aware that this existed but i never met anyone actually into it

[Anonymous No.14198461]

>TOOTHLESS THE ANTIVEGAN FALSEFLAGS A THREAD
Kill yourself antivegan faggot

[Anonymous No.14198465]

>>14198420
Welcome home

[Anonymous No.14198467]

>>14198420
Welcome back to normalcy.

[Anonymous No.14198471]

>>14198461
>OMG YOU STOPPED EATING VEGAN?!?!?!? YOU MUST BE ANTIVEGAN SHILL!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
This is why nobody likes you assholes

[Anonymous No.14198472]

>>14198420
did you notice any health benefits or negatives?
did you supplement stuff like b12 etc or was that unnecessary

[Anonymous No.14198475]

>>14198420
>Salmon stacked in the center
>The rest is bread and some cheese
why?

[Anonymous No.14198479]

>>14198467
>Welcome back to normalcy.

yeah, ok

[Anonymous No.14198484]

>>14198460
Yeah it was actually pretty cool in hindsight but when you become an adult most people in vegan communities at large are fucking idiots

[Anonymous No.14198485]

>>14198471
Boom. OP confirmed toothless antivegan faggot.

[Anonymous No.14198492]

>>14198475
Are you blind? That’s not cheese it’s butter you retard

[Anonymous No.14198493]

>>14198475
There's no cheese in that pic. What's wrong with your eyes?

[Anonymous No.14198496]

>>14198472
Nah I never did any of that b12 supplement stuff, you can get b12 everywhere

[Anonymous No.14198503]

>>14198485
kek

[Anonymous No.14198508]

>>14198420
>iPhone filename
>GUYS LOOK AT ME AND MY FOOD CHOICES

[Anonymous No.14198510]

>>14198492
>>14198493
you suck

[Anonymous No.14198516]

>>14198496
what did your typical diet include? im not asking for a complete rundown but some staples
id imagine legumes and nuts/seeds besides the obvious vegetables

[Anonymous No.14198520]

>>14198508
What’s wrong anon? Too poor to afford premium tech?

[Anonymous No.14198523]

>>14198420
Why should I care? Seriously, what makes you think you are worthy of an AMA? One of nearly 8 billion humans changed their diet. Wow. Congratulations!

[Anonymous No.14198527]

>>14198516
Before it was mostly roasted veg, chickpeas, legumes, sometimes meat substitutes. My diet is now more or less the same but now with meats/eggs. Don’t really fuck with cheese often cause it’s full of shit

[Anonymous No.14198531]

>>14198523
Kek get therapy you low self esteem loser

[Anonymous No.14198533]

>>14198520
Dumb phoneposter.

[Anonymous No.14198554]

>>14198479
Cope

[Anonymous No.14198844]

>>14198420
Hello OP.

Eat what you want and be happy man.

I'm slowly changing my diet, I intend to adopt a plant based diet, eating meat just two to three times a week. I'm struggling to find any good vegan/vegetarian recipes.

Since you was a vegan for 14 years, can you recommend any good recipes that you eat in a daily basis?

[Anonymous No.14198881]

>>14198420
I've been pescatarian for 4 years and I've never looked back. It is the pinnacle of diets. Healthy fats, lean protein, the taste of the ocean, an abundant variety of crustaceans and fish to choose from. Vegans are fags but so are carnists. There is nothing shittier than industrial, hormone pumped, chicken/beef/pork. It's all a bunch of SHIT. People in America eat far too much of it and I hope they all die. Farmed fish sucks too stay the fuck away from farmed fish or else you're a fag.

[Anonymous No.14199014]

>>14198881
>pescatarian
Opinion D R O P P E D
You're worse than a vegetarian

[Anonymous No.14199023]

>>14199014
Vegans are truly fucked in the head

[Anonymous No.14199050]

>>14199023
>jealousy with a side of cope

[Anonymous No.14199051]

>>14198420
Now that you are free, look into the REAL problems with modern agriculture.

You'll see the problem is you have been programmed to be a dependent consumer slave. If you knew how to raise and slaughter and butcher your own cow, you could eat for a YEAR if not longer.

Food sovereignty>>>>>veganisim

Pic related is butter. Butter you can NEVER get with money. Only food sovereignty can get you this butter.

Flee the city, abandon your oligarch masters, make the wealthy serve us, instead of the other way around.

[Anonymous No.14199059]

>>14198527
Bruh I have made farmers cheese with just whole milk and lemon juice. Don't knock cheese till you make it. It's even better if you can get raw milk. The raw milk I got had the cows food rations on it. Almost entirely fed pasture grass.

[Anonymous No.14199061]

>>14199014
You are very clearly mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.14199097]

>>14198461
I thought it was him again... he's determined to make everything a steak guzzling dullard again

[Anonymous No.14199113]

>>14199023
very true

>>14199014
Ill dispatch and eat anything coldblooded and sleep well at night

[Anonymous No.14199145]

>>14198461
The fact is that most people who try veganism eventually give it up.

[Anonymous No.14199153]

>>14199145
Proof?

[Anonymous No.14199165]

>>14199061
Cope

[Anonymous No.14199181]

>>14199153
Somewhere around 3% of Americans are currently avoiding meat but ~10% have tried to abstain but reverted to eating it.

https://faunalytics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Faunalytics_Current-Former-Vegetarians_Full-Report.pdf

I don't have a side here. And yes it's true that recidivism is much higher for vegetarians than pure vegans.

[Anonymous No.14199190]

>>14199165
fag

[Anonymous No.14199194]

>>14199181
>2014
>.5%
>not peer reviewed
Fake

[Anonymous No.14199227]

>>14198429
You don't have to be an ex-vegan to actually like some vegan and vegetarian dishes. Most people who say they're meat eaters say it in opposition to people claim they're vegan or vegetarian, to most people it's just a normal diet to sometimes have meat and sometimes not.

That being said, of course the ex-vegan makes a claim about themselves based on their food identity and manages to come off sounding superior to the people who just did what he did all along.

[Anonymous No.14199250]

I tried raw veganism for about two months. For science. It was good science and I lost a lot of weight and felt really good, physically. However, I realized that life isn't really worth living without the occasional slice of pizza. Sushi is off the menu too. What good is raw veganism if you have to forgo some of your favorite foods in life?

[Anonymous No.14199300]

>>14199250
We're all gonna die so might as well enjoy what you eat, within moderation of course. Eating shouldn't feel like a chore cuz you spend so much time in your life cooking and eating.

[Anonymous No.14199306]

>>14198420
Congratulations. Go buy a Big Mac. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.14199311]

>>14198429
Based
>>14198434
Cringe and case in point

[Anonymous No.14199323]

>>14199250
>vegan pizza
>vegan sushi
Huh

[Anonymous No.14199370]

>>14199323
Sushi isn't vegan. It has fish in it. The shit you call "vegan sushi" in the west is called a rice ball in Japan.
In fact, sushi (originally narezushi) it was a dish of fish fermented in rice. The rice was originally discarded and not even eaten.
I hate to weeb out here but I can't stand how shitty people are about food.

[Anonymous No.14199378]

>>14199323
>can't read
>missed the "raw" part

[Anonymous No.14199405]

>>14199378
How is rice and cucumber not raw?

[Anonymous No.14199531]

>>14199405
raw rice is fucking disgusting lol

[Anonymous No.14199627]

>>14199370

sushi is literally vegan by itself, as sushi literally means vinegared rice. Onigiri / rice balls in particular are not sushi as they are usually not vinegared.

weeb harder, nub

[Anonymous No.14199809]

>>14199627
https://youtu.be/DbvNrgY1AoU?t=104

[Anonymous No.14199824]

>>14199405
When was the last time you grabbed a handful of raw rice from the bag and shoved it in your mouth?

[Anonymous No.14200915]

>>14198420
I mean we bred wild animals into cows just for their tender flesh, and people used to kill eachother all the time, why not meat?
it's now just that in privileged countries people don't agree with their own human nature, or atleast the part that they don't want to hurt anything or anyone.

[Anonymous No.14200920]

>>14198533
so we fucked ourself?

[Anonymous No.14200983]

>>14198429
>we eat anything but also don't have a weird hangup about dishes that don't contain meat
i wish i didnt but its just not a meal

[Anonymous No.14201084]

>>14198420
fancy

[Anonymous No.14201119]

>>14198485
The Eastern European retard genetics are admirable in a way

[Anonymous No.14201122]

>>14198844
not op, but I've found Indian food and poor people food in general to be very good vegan food, as long as you spice it well. a few of my favorites are ratatouille, very traditional French onion soup (unfortunately haven't found a good replacement for cheese), dahl, vegetable korma, green chile and fried rice (with tofu).

[Anonymous No.14201154]

>>14198420
Just eat game from local small scale fishers, farmers and hunters.
I know the owners/gatherers of ~90% of the meat I consume.
Feels good to have butchers/fishmongers in the family.

[Anonymous No.14201480]

You could always focus on meat which is a byproduct, like veal or male lambs. They're going to die regardless.

[Anonymous No.14201506]

Lmao @ letting your distaste for other vegans make you drop your morals

[Anonymous No.14201519]

>>14198420
I was a vegetarian for 2 years, the tried going vegan and I hated it so much I actually went back to meat. I ate plenty of plant protein, but there's no replacement for animal proteins, I feel 10x better when I include meat and eggs in my diet.

[Anonymous No.14201524]

Vegans will win

[Anonymous No.14201527]

>>14198420
Good for you. I'm glad to hear you recovered from a normally terminal condition.

[Anonymous No.14201533]

>>14199153
is that graph intentionally scuffed, cummon vegans if your gonna make propaganda at least have it not be shit

[Anonymous No.14201847]

>>14198420
Why did you care about the community in the first place?

[Anonymous No.14201937]

>>14199051
Mega based, I approve

[Anonymous No.14202162]

>>14200983
are you just making meat dishes without the meat?

[Anonymous No.14202169]

>>14199051
this is rancid butter, you can see it from a mile away by the color

[Anonymous No.14202257]

>>14199051
This right here

[Anonymous No.14202272]

>>14202169
You have never seen butter from a private owned cow that has had a few carrots as treats I guess, diet affects color. This cow may have had pasture that had dandilions in it, the color of industrial butter is homoginized by mixing hundreds of cow product, also often less quality diet than a private owned small farm cow.homestead cows feed the family and are treated better often.

[Anonymous No.14202292]

don't care that you're not a vegan but this shows you lack willpower and have loose morals. kys

[Anonymous No.14202312]

>>14198420
looks delicious
like that's some really fucking good bread

[Anonymous No.14202329]

>>14201847
they were all faggots

[Anonymous No.14202330]

>>14202292
>thinks morals = willpower

[Anonymous No.14202369]

>>14198420
You should be eating anything you like, unless you are a fatty.

[Anonymous No.14202749]

>>14202169
here's another pic. This butter (from the same cow) is form the freezer.
I don't think it's rancid. its not my butter but this was a carefully selected, certified a2/a2 dairy cow, raised outdoors on a regenerative farm on high quality pasture.
I think you just don't know what butter is supposed to look like. it's okay, most of us grew up deprived but were taught that we are privileged because all of the low quality foods available to us by the oligarch masters.

[Anonymous No.14202769]

>>14199050
In your own words, explain what non-vegans are jealous of.

[Anonymous No.14202775]

>>14202272
I believe the poster says the butter gets it's golden color due to the season. Milk in the summer comes from a diet in very rich grass that gets tons of sun and is grown in high quality soil. Maybe in the later months when there is less sun the butter will be less pigmented.
I don't think it would come from dandelions since most of them go to seed by summertime.

This makes sense to me. The eggs I am getting now from my neighbors free range, pasture raised (self certified) chickens have yolks a similar color to this. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.14202785]

>>14198429
i went to a vegan restaurant where everything on the menu was a vegan version of a non vegan meal and it fucking sucked

[Anonymous No.14202919]

>>14198420
Switching back after that much time will kill you, you better stop. My uncle switched back and died two months later.

[Anonymous No.14202952]

did you spread the fish out after taking the picture? or just keep it in a blob in the middle.

[Anonymous No.14202988]

>>14198446
damn this kinda slaps

[Anonymous No.14203382]

>>14202785
I used to eat here when I was vegetarian. I used to wonder why I would always get the worst indigestion afterwards.

[Anonymous No.14203524]

>>14198420
Welcome to the Real World anon

[Anonymous No.14203823]

>>14202775
dandelion petals taste better than >98% of supermarket "vegs"

[Anonymous No.14203837]

>>14198420
Is it a salmon sandwich? God i love salmon,. smoked, cooked, fried or raw the japanese way or raw the skandinavian way :D

[Anonymous No.14204971]

>>14203837
sadly ((they)) are soon do to it the same as to crops

https://www.nature.com/articles/467259a

[Anonymous No.14206224]

>>14202169
Retard this is what butter should look like. It gets the color because it's from cows that are raised on a pasture and fed with grass nearly exclusively. The more yellow, the better- as it indicates higher vitamin A, D (especially), E, B12, & K2 content. The shit you buy at the store is that wretched white color because it comes from grain fed cows which are, in general, subject to worse conditions (think factory farming) than a cow raised on a pasture. Store butter is also made from pasteurized cream, where as what anon has is most likely raw butter.

[Anonymous No.14206232]

>>14202775
Deep yellow, almost orange color is what you want. Looks like a good egg to me. It gets this way as you mentioned, because the chickens are raised on a pasture, so they get ample sunlight. Biggest factor though is their diet. A healthy chickens diet consists of worms, lizards, bugs, etc... Perfectly safe to eat raw as well.

[Anonymous No.14206241]

>>14198446
Ethical vegans should feed themselves to bears like that grizzly man fag from that shitty cuck movie.

[Anonymous No.14206299]

>>14206241
Carnitards should succumb to the inevitable veganism cleanse.

[Anonymous No.14206324]

>>14206299
Notice how u have to say shit like carnist and carnitard like some sort of klansman. It’s a very us vs them mentality. I hope one day you will stop drowning in your own ego and look outside of yourself and see that we are all humans here, and that we all have more in common than your ego likes to lead you to believe.

[Anonymous No.14206603]

>>14198420
>community
>separatist
what the fuck does a community even have anything to do with what you do or dont eat?
why the fuck do you care?
if you dont want to eat meat then just dont eat meat.
it's not like you need support groups to hold hands and talk about it.

[Anonymous No.14206706]

>>14206603
This, unironically. Eating meat is already the default so there's no need to get help. Steakcucks are stupid and think eating something new for once besides daily steaks is abusive Stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.14206728]

>>14198420
fish and eggs was a good choice. Be careful with beef. Ease your way back in if you're going to.

[Anonymous No.14206729]

>>14198420
I see a white pube in there.

[Anonymous No.14206730]

Imagine being so deficient in healthy animal fats that your body has to send alarm bells to jolt you out of your delusional state.

[Anonymous No.14206743]

Never fully understood veganism. Well I guess I do understand it, but see no need for it personally. Eat what you want and justify it how you need to, but it should never be an all or nothing decision based upon a hardline ideology that ignores the complexity of reality. Either side has extreme and/or vocal advocates and the mentality is akin to tribalism, us vs them, bending facts to fit their bias. Things often are what they are ... rich and complex.

This can be taken as an attempt to justify meat eating, but I'm not trying to do that. I was a vegetarian for a long time and while I do currently eat meat it is pretty infrequently, 10-15lb a year.

Typically people are vegan as opposed to simply not eating much meat because they believe it is unethical to use an animal as a product. Just leave it there. They believe something. Don't need to drag often suspect data, nebulous evolutionary biology and socioeconomic musings into the mix.

Equally meat fanatics. How boring. Beef, pork, chicken, lamb. Rinse and repeat in an endless succession of very similar meals. Stack up your portions of prepared and plastic packages each week. Routine. Stagnation. Why even defend it?

The younger guys I work with usually can't imagine anything better than chicken, bacon and cheese. That is about all they want to eat. Suddenly at some point in their mid 20's they seem to realise they are bored of it and pissed off with never shitting.

Again though, do whatever actually makes you happy as long as you have the faculties to critically reflect upon your decisions. You don't need ideology.

[Anonymous No.14207851]

>>14206743
Hmm, weird how people categorize me as a meat fanatic, but I am against industrial ag and promote supporting small local farms and self certifying ethical practices through actually seeing the animals and how they are raised, and even slaughtered. I also support wholesaling and livestock shares, even learning how to break down primal cuts, therefore eliminating the need for cellophane wrapped styrofoam individual serving packaging. I also encourage eating nose to tail, and not trimming precious fat that can be rendered and used for not only cooking but also for things like soaps and cosmetics and other industrial uses.

I’m not even a “carnivore” I grow my own crops and manage land, with the hopes of restoring it. So much of the worlds fertile lands are degraded and poisioned, sprayed with ‘cides and artificial fertilizers, industrial mechanized tilling releases massive amounts of carbon, far more than a cows belch could ever hope to in his or her lifetime. Tilling is literally the equivalent of peeling the Earths skin off and exposing her tender flesh underneath.

If humans did what they were born to do instead of what they were told to do, they would return to their natural habitat and resume their role as stewards of the land.

Did you know that the United States was managed land before the settlers arrived? Native Americans found an agricultural system that was sustainable and regenerative. Herds of bison recorded to be 50 miles long packed with no visible pasture between them, and passanger pidgeons (now extinct) would blacken the skies for 3 days as they migrated.

Humanity is like the very hands we hold in front of us. We can use them to harm or we can use them to heal.

Choose wisely.

[Anonymous No.14207858]

>>14198429
from time to time i eat something without meat or dairy just for curiosity's sake.

not much into veganism but i don't think we will be able to eat meat every day in a few decades. and could be i will prefer plant based nutrition to fucking bugs.

[Anonymous No.14207869]

>>14207851
>If humans did what they were born to do
what persistence hunting?

[Anonymous No.14208010]

>>14207869
Land stewardship, you urbanite dimwit.

[Anonymous No.14208116]

>>14208010
pfeh you clearly have no idea what humans are made for.
also if everyone just tended to his land we would have no scientist no academics no smart phones no internet no space travel no tending gardens and hydroponics on mars and rotary space stations...

[Anonymous No.14208624]

>>14207851
you sound like a faggot ...is what many of my friends would say :(

[Anonymous No.14208706]

I went vegan once for two years but had to quit because of health reasons and because (for whatever reason) it was psychologically daunting. I didnt care all that much that I couldnt eat meat, but I felt that it had more to do with lacking essential nutrients that plants cant effectiently provide. For example, I used to think that (if I ate the daily amount of protein I'm supposed to eat) that I would be fine. But, the problem was that I defecient in protein because no one told me how little of protien I ate was actually usable protein. Of course, I found that out well after I quit from some pretty obscure sources that you have to really dig for. But regardless, I almost immediately started feeling better after eating meat. I was eating the recommended amount of protein per day and mixing the tofu and beans (my main sources of protein) in with recipes I found online. I'm not going to go vegan again with the knowledge I know and eat 5 fucking cans of beans a day. That simply is not going to happen. Also, quit with the dur "soy doesnt effect estrogen levels in the body" hur. That literally only applies to asians because theyve been eating it for thousands of years. I had frequent mood swings and I swear I grew tits over that shit too and I was fucking skinny (they werent large but they were noticable).

[Anonymous No.14208834]

>>14208706
>falseflagging
>too stupid to eat a proper vegan diet and too stupid to take a simple multivitamin

[Anonymous No.14208891]

>>14198446
patrician taste

[Anonymous No.14208908]

>>14198523
>why should i care?
he writes as he cares enough to post in the thread

[Anonymous No.14208918]

>>14198420
I don't think there is anything wrong with killing animals for food despite having alternatives, as long as they're not being slowly cooked alive or some shit. The problem is industrial farming.
>sick of the 'community'
There are loud obnoxious retards on every side of every controvery, you' re not obligated to give a shit or associate with anyone.

[Anonymous No.14208952]

>>14208834
>literally pissing money away
>calling others stupid

[Anonymous No.14208975]

>>14208116
I don’t need everyone engaging in land stewardship. Just go back to the pre 1970s numbers, which was like, 5 percent of Americans.

Today it’s 1 percent.
You don’t think 4 percet of people in urban dilbert cubiclesdon’t dream of a more meaningful life closer to nature, bathed in sunlight, fresh air, and green grass?

Technology will of course follow humanity, but imagine an app on a college canvas that could tell students that the strawberries in front of the engenieering building were ripe for picking?

In fact, regenerative farms regularly use modern technology. Lightweight electric fencing to keep predators out, automatic doors to move trained cattle to the next paddock, with cameras to make sure nothing goes wrong while the herds move.
There is advanced soil testing in universities right now checking the carbon sequestration and organic matter changes of regeneratively managed soil vs conventional vs unmanaged.
Just because I say we should look back, doesn’t mean I’m saying we should go back to being cave people.
Farming has changed so much in 50 years, what the hell do you think it should or could look like in another 50?

Regenerative farming is growing, and I hope it kills this hyper industrial, hyper globalized, petroleum demanding system of growing, harvesting, processing, adulterating, transporting, transmuting, and packaging millions of acres of near useless, government subsidized, artificially cheap cash crop based system.

[Anonymous No.14208981]

>>14198420
You vegans are insufferable even when you've stopped, no one cares how you eat

[Anonymous No.14209028]

>>14208975
I think the real issue is drawing a dichotomy between "office life" and living with nature. I recall reading about some guy in new jersey making what he called a "food forest", basically he ripped out all the turf grass in his back yard, planted fruit and nut trees, plus edible perennials. Looked like the garden of Eden.

I think an ideal solution would be neighborhoods collectively managing large scale versions of this, basically forming little nano-states. With the riots, people are throwing the idea around of downsizing the police in favor of armed "community patrols", which I think also plays into this idea. Humans are only built to deal with so many other individuals before our brains just don't work properly. We should focus on building communities where everyone knows everyone, and its in everyone's best interest to watch out for everyone else.

[Anonymous No.14209073]

>>14209028
For me, I think a good solution would be for the cities to depopulate. There's plenty of people who can move out and repopulate the countryside.
Rural areas of the "civilized" world are actually dying. Most small rural areas in the united states are practically ghost towns, with many shops boarded up. The place I live in had a hospital 40 years ago but due to depopulation its now just an assisted living center.
No time would be better than now for people to go to small towns and start businesses.

[Anonymous No.14209106]

>>14208834
Except I didnt have tons upon tons of money to have "a proper vegan diet". I couldnt go out and buy whatever the fuck I wanted like you are doing in your moms basement. I did the best I could do with what I had and obeyed strict dietary (yet flawed like the protein) guidelines.

[Anonymous No.14209153]

>>14209106
Don't worry, seriously.
Veganism by default is a deficient diet. If you require a multivitamin or any sort of supplementation without having any health issues you are eating a deficient diet.
Also I do extensive research on how all foods are made, I seriously can't figure out how the fuck supplements are made, all I can find is some really shady shit that involves kerosene and waste products from pet food, camera film production (this was outdated info, I'm sure that the byproduct from electronics is still a thing though), and processed food to make supplements.
It's creepy, I wouldn't eat supplements unless I had a medical issue and nothing else worked.

You didn't fail veganisim, veganisim failed you.

[Anonymous No.14209231]

>>14208952
>live on rice, beans, and veggies
>cheapest foods in the world
>take $0.10 multivitamin every day
>expensive
You seem like you've never been to a grocery store anon

[Anonymous No.14209242]

>>14209153
I've got news for you. There's not a single vitamin or mineral you can't get on a vegan diet, even if you remove supplements. Not a single one.

[Anonymous No.14209473]

>>14209242
A... are you implying that vegans can eat livestock grade b12 supplements?

[Anonymous No.14209494]

>>14209231
The guys in pic related tried to eat just rice beans and bananas while working like a 3rd world worker in Guatemala who would make a dollar a day, they end up getting horribly sick, end up changing their diet to corn and lard, then they feel better.

Tell me anon. Have you lived off of rice and beans while working a manual job outdoors in blistering heat for 12 hours a day?

[Anonymous No.14209506]

>>14209106
>proper vegan diet
when they say "proper", what they actually mean is "short-term"

[Anonymous No.14209525]

>>14209494
>vegans
>doing manual labor