/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14153101]

Yesterday had sushi for the first time and i really don't get what all the fuss is about.
Me and my flatmate decided to treat ourselves to mixed platter from a local place which is very highly rated. Was expensive as shit but it was his birthday and he's a fucking weeb so of course he wanted some japanese shit.
Anyway, ye. It's just raw fish and rice. Why do people rant and rave about it? Why do people spend extortionate amounts of money to eat it? I feel like i'm missing something.
Don't get me wrong, it was alright, especially when dipping into soy sauce or the wasabi, but really nothing remarkable. And the amount of fish you get for the money doesn't seem like good value for money at all.
I'd much rather a bit of smoked salmon.
is sushi a scam? or am i an uncultured swine?

[Anonymous No.14153113]

>inb4 some retards make comments about you having a flatmate/roommate/etc

[Anonymous No.14153150]

Yes you are a uncultured swine, and americanized sushi filled with imitation crab cream cheese and avocado is trash.

Get some nigiri and sashimi. Sushi is suppose to be simple.

[Anonymous No.14153168]

>>14153101
I felt this way the first time I tried it, when I was 11. As an adult I've come to learn the value of simplicity. Adding soy sauce actually spoils the experience.

[Anonymous No.14153192]

>>14153113
i actually have 3 flatmates, 2 hungarian girls and a polish guy (the weeb).
welcome to life in a major British city.

I can afford to rent by myself but I find living alone really depressing. plus the hungarian girls cook a mean goulash and paprika chicken.

[Anonymous No.14153205]

>>14153150
it wasn't americanised.
it was from a proper japanese place which has actual legit slanty eyed chefs.

[Anonymous No.14153214]

>>14153205
Doesn’t matter, was it in the US? If so, it is.

[Anonymous No.14153218]

>>14153214
Maybe i should say its westernized.

[Anonymous No.14153238]

>>14153214
well there was no cream cheese in it.
it was nigiri, sashimi and hosomaki, made with tuna and salmon plus various rolls, including chicken katsu rolls which were the nicest thing.

[Anonymous No.14153248]

>>14153101
A big part of sushi is ceremony and presentation, the Japanese are big on that. Food rolled in rice is a big thing in all of Asia and if you go to your local Asian markets you can find some good shit for not much money. There's a Korean market near me that does bigass rolls for $4, they're kind of sloppily cut but delicious and at least rolled well so they don't fall apart. Note that different places will treat their rice differently. What makes sushi is the rice which is treated with vinegar, kimbap is treated with sesame oil.

[Anonymous No.14153263]

Generally if you are not going into it actively looking to taste the differences in fish, high quality sushi is more or less the same as low quality sushi. Based on your story you want something to fill up on with your room mate and sushi wasn't to your taste preference, which is totally fine and respectable.

[Anonymous No.14153268]

>>14153150
1. He never said what country he was in
2. Everything that isn't Japan =/= America
3. Go be a weeb somewhere else >>>/a/

[Anonymous No.14153280]

I lived in Japan for a couple years, the sushi there was sublime compared to Americanized garbage.

Simple, delicious, worth it every time.

I've had plenty of sushi here in the U.S. that just didn't cut it. Like someone else already said, have some sashimi or nigiri. Authentic if possible.

If you still don't like it after that, it's probably just not up your alley, which is whatever. You do you.

[Anonymous No.14153290]

Should've said *****Non-Japanese***** sushi, not "Americanized". For you faggot ass edgelords out there. (You know who you are)

[Anonymous No.14153316]

>>14153280
>sashimi or nigiri
thats literally what i had.
like i said, raw fish and rice.
whats special about sashimi?
it's just a bit of raw salmon/tuna.
why is that so fucking expensive or special?

Maybe it's because i grew up on west coast of scotland where fresh salmon is readily available that i find it unimpressive. As i said, to me, a nicely smoked bit of salmon is a greater culinary experience than sashimi, and significantly cheaper, which is strange since there is more preparation involved.

[Anonymous No.14153422]

>>14153192
>Going out with the Polish guy
>Not going out with the Hungarian chicks

[Anonymous No.14153427]

>>14153101
Special yamato technique makes it taste bad only to redditards who use the word "ye"

[Anonymous No.14153433]

Reminder that if you don't eat your sushi off a naked person it isn't really sushi

[Anonymous No.14153497]

>>14153422
Hungarian women are either current prostitutes or former prostitutes, depending on if they are older than 22.

[Anonymous No.14153511]

>>14153433
>Body hair, sweat and acne
no thanks

[Anonymous No.14153514]

Sushi is all about the rice's quality. Most sushi places I've been in were of a pretty trashy quality (France and Ireland). Whenever you're going to a restaurant with chefs that know what they're doing and want to do right it's quite an exquisite experience.
You're not supposed to dip the rice into the soy sauce, only the fish. If you dip your sushi in the sauce so much that you don't get the taste of the fish you fucked up. Get multiple types of sushi, fish, veggies, try out a variety of them and it's recommended to eat a bit of pickled ginger in between them as a palate cleanser in order to get the maximum of each fish's flavour.
It's considered a luxurious food so it's overpriced everywhere, even when it's amateur-made using shitty ingredients.
I would recommend you to steer clear of the usual tuna, salmon and california-style ones and try out mackerel and local fishes sushi if at all possible. Eel if you're a picky eater.

[Anonymous No.14153522]

>>14153150
ur killing the fishes normie. i heard somewhere that sushi is about as authentic as debeers

[None !2Code3TV3M No.14153536]

a good sushi buffet is a decent enough value and is pretty refreshing but you won't catch me paying for those artisanal by the roll places, those ones really are a scam
its a good option when you wanna get stuffed with friends but don't want hot food

for the same price as the 10 piece plate i can go to a sushi buffet and get 6 plates the same size and the fish will be fresher by virtue of production volume

[Anonymous No.14153544]

Sushi is the Chinese martial arts of food. Pretentious as hell because they make some guy wash rice for 50 years before he can even touch fish.

[Anonymous No.14153602]

>>14153280
its literally raw fish and vinegar rice. you can easily make it anywhere if you have fresh fish

[Anonymous No.14153687]

>>14153101
It's clean and easy and different. When I have good sushi I feel cozy. But yes, kill the weebs.

[Anonymous No.14153689]

>>14153192
To hear British are this multicultural is depressing.

[Anonymous No.14153700]

literally wasted his entire life "mastering" putting raw fish on rice.

that would be like me being a master at grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.14153720]

Deep fried sushi is good
Fight me weebs

[Anonymous No.14153846]

>>14153536
You're having the worst ingredients anon. Don't fool yourself.

[Anonymous No.14153877]

I don't get what the big deal is with sushi either. It's not bad as a snack food.

Japanese food is good though. I like the fried eel in sweet soy sauce.

[Anonymous No.14154067]

>>14153700
>Master grilled cheese
>Sell them for $300
I'd hardly call that a waste. You could probably get away with that in certain places.

[Anonymous No.14154087]

>>14153689
People from around the world living in harmony with each other makes you upset?

[Anonymous No.14154110]

>>14153150

Sushi is literal trash tier bar food, designed to be consumed by drunk people in bars. Japanese equivalent of nacho chips and cheese.

Food snobbery surrounding sushi is an American thing.

[Anonymous No.14154137]

>>14153101

ILL TAKE A PHILADELPHIA ROLL BUT ADD SOME OF THOSE CRUNCY THINGS PLEASE

[None !2Code3TV3M No.14154280]

>>14153846
you've having it either place

[Anonymous No.14154303]

>>14153101
Naruto roll is best unironically

[Anonymous No.14154319]

I like the combination of the greens, rice and fish. Its a mellow complimenting taste.
And diluting the wasabi in soy sauce for exactly the right consistency tastes awesome.

>>14153602
Yes, and that is the wonderful part.
I've had sushi 2 times before my sister and her fiance made sushi in a cabin far off the grid.
Served somewhat more properly with proper usage of wasabi and a bit more folkish vegetables turned out great.

Consistency and taste is great. Condiments makes is a lot better.

[Anonymous No.14154328]

>>14153248
Gimbap is nice, the koreans love to eat spicy rice cakes and dip gimbap into the sauce

[Anonymous No.14154489]

Been to $100/meal sushi joints and $12/all-you-can-eats and have even intentionally tried "dubious" sushi from gas stations and Walmarts. Usually I find if your meal cost you more than $30 to get comfortably full you're overpaying.

Don't listen to sushi elitists. My personal favorite sushi place serves buffalo wings. Authentic, academy trained sushi masters are a meme.

[Anonymous No.14154586]

>>14154110
>>14154489
How embarrassing. Kill yourselves while you can.

[Anonymous No.14154794]

>>14153268
Based north Korean flag-owner

[Anonymous No.14155021]

>>14153101
Sushi is about the quality of ingredients.

If you have mediocre fish, you have mediocre sushi.
If you have mediocre rice, you have mediocre sushi.

You can't mask the quality behind countless spices and sauces.

[Anonymous No.14155039]

[Anonymous No.14155042]

>>14153101
As much as I want to love Japanese food, I can't. Outside of Ramen and Okonomiyaki most of the food has the same flavor. It's not bad by no means but it isn't isn't on my bucket list when I think of foods to try out. Why is Japanese food taste the same?

[Anonymous No.14155059]

>>14155042
Because they're a tiny island nation with almost no farmable land because of all the mountains.

but then again every nation's cooking taste the same. American food just tastes like sugar, French food just tastes like butter, British food tastes like WWII rations, etc.

[Anonymous No.14156437]

>>14154110
No, people have skewers in bars.
Sushi has been considered luxurious food since they started to season the rice with sake and vinegar, which was ages ago.

[Anonymous No.14156444]

>>14155042
It doesn't.

[Anonymous No.14156591]

>>14153101
Don't go to sushi places. Sushi is trash, especially for the western palate, especially in the west. It's literally just rice, vinegar, raw fish if you're lucky, and whatever imitation crab shit they put in it. Your flatmate's an idiot and I hope he learned his lesson instead of deluding himself. If you really want to try weebshit, go look up how to make tuna mayo onigiri, that's 90% of the good part you can easily make at home.
t. asian weeb

[Anonymous No.14157005]

>>14154137
>ILL TAKE A PHILADELPHIA ROLL BUT ADD SOME OF THOSE CRUNCY THINGS PLEASE
muh nigga

[Anonymous No.14157019]

>>14153101
>I'd much rather a bit of smoked salmon.
Then why didn't you get smoked salmon nigiri sushi?

[Anonymous No.14157030]

>>14153720
>Fight me weebs
Why would they? Godzilla rolls are delicious and popular, and are literally maki sushi tempura.

[Anonymous No.14157037]

>>14153192
Fellow bonglander here who has been eating sushi for years. It's very hard to get good sushi in the UK; expensive Sushi outside of London is at best edible.

You'll get much better sushi at the same price in many other countries, and sushi in JP is a different ball game.

So chalk it up to quality (and I'm well aware of how expensive itis despite being bad).

[Anonymous No.14157057]

[Anonymous No.14157068]

[Anonymous No.14157942]

>>14153514
My colleagues would fill inari pockets with wasabi, and play russian roulette with us waiters when they packed the nights leftovers for us.
We'd get back at them by switching the coffee in their iced coffee with soy.

[Anonymous No.14159224]

>>14153101
It's about enjoying the taste of the fish in as simple a form as possible.

[Anonymous No.14159279]

>>14153238
Don't worry, you'll get weebs on here talking all sorts of shit about 'authenticity' because you didnt travel to Okayama to eat. If you weren't that bothered it's fine, sushi does get overrated a lot.

[Anonymous No.14159306]

>>14155021
this. i've had a lot of mediocre sushi and never really cared about it until after becoming weeb, which is when i realized you can't just grab gas station or buffet sushi and say you've had sushi. having it made fresh for you at a sushi bar to be eaten immediately or as soon as possible seems to be the best way to experience sushi. i had to try various things before i found combos i really liked tho.

[Anonymous No.14159629]

>>14157037
>It's very hard to get good sushi in the UK
May I ask why? You're an island nation, fresh seafood all around, and some of your most iconic meals are things like fish & chips and jellied eels so it's not like it's this radical new concept.

Are the cooks just like cooking the rice in a microwave or something? They put sugar instead of salt in the rice? Worcestershire sauce instead of soy sauce? What's going on?

[Anonymous No.14159682]

>>14153168
Maybe im buying into some western bullshit, but isnt it actually insulting to a sushi chef to dip his meal into sauces? Or is that sashimi? Also, is the correct term sushi "chef"? Since nothing is being cooked.

[Anonymous No.14159689]

>>14153192
post pictures of the hungarians

[Anonymous No.14159692]

>>14153101
It's just not your thing. For me, it was an acquired taste, and now the only thing keeping me from eating it every day is the exorbitant price.

[Anonymous No.14159697]

>>14153280
nigger the sushi in japan is literally exactly the same, in fact I would prefer to eat at the american places because there's some more variety

[Anonymous No.14159735]

>>14159682
It entirely depends on the place, even in Japan. in the higher tier sushi places it's however the chef says it should be. Anywhere else you always get the option of soy sauce and extra wasabi and it's fine.

It's not just sushi but a lot of food in general where Japan has the opposite attitude of "the customer is always right", it's all about letting the chef guide you into their culinary world and trusting their skills and experience.

[Anonymous No.14159754]

>>14159735
In other words, pleb filters.

[Anonymous No.14159781]

>>14159735
Dunno why this isnt adopted more widely. Im not a fan of squash, but if a top flight chef prepared it id definitely try it trusting that even if it doesnt change my mind, i at least know ive had it made very well. If im trying something for the first time, id trust the chefs judgement in its preperation. And if its something ive had and like a certain way, i certainly wouldnt make my "changes" after its been made differently

[Anonymous No.14159798]

>>14159781
>Dunno why this isnt adopted more widely.
We in the west we have a very Karen approach when it comes to food where everything has to be exactly the way we want and even when recipes call for specific things we still demand that we swap out one thing for another and add an extra bit of that while making sure that there's not a single trace of this, etc.

[Anonymous No.14159807]

>>14153101
i've been making sushi at home
once you figure out the rice, it's easy as fuck, cheaper, and you can stuff more ingredients in the roll

[Anonymous No.14159865]

>>14159798
Defeats the purpose of enjoying food in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.14159898]

>>14159865
Yup. We find our comfort zone when we're like 7 years old or something and a lot of people just stick to that.

Like somehow I must have had a bad experience with pickles as a child and I wouldn't sit down and eat a whole pickle to this day, but for 20+ years I would always throw the pickles out of whatever I was getting from McDonalds just purely out of muscle memory at that point. Then one day I forgot to take them out and I ate them and I was like "oh whoops this is fine actually". if McDonalds sold like 800 trillion hamburgers that come with pickles in them by default it means that they taste good with pickles in them.

[Anonymous No.14159962]

>>14153150
If he said flatmate its pretty obvious he isn't eating American sushi....

[Anonymous No.14160329]

>>14154110
They have cheap sushi in Japan, but they get very excited about the good shit.

[Anonymous No.14160351]

>>14153205
There are a lot of "proper Japanese places" that are just run by Koreans because they look the part. My favorite is this place my sister likes, you walk in and the guy tries to yell IRASSHAIMASE at you, but he doesn't actually speak Japanese so it's just some weird jumbled attempt, but he yells it with confidence, so I'm sure it's convincing to people.

[Anonymous No.14160379]

Gross, the fish is all raw and shit

[Anonymous No.14160758]

>>14159629
Quality of raw ingredients is the main issue - penny pinching chefs and a lack of discerning customers, a lack of highly skilled sushi chefs outside of a few restaurants. Also, no locals - England doesn't have any Japanese areas really.

By way of contrast Frankfurt has some very good Sushi (despite being in-land), well known and expensive, but found in its Japanese area and always filled with a mixture of Japanese customers and Europeans. The impact of a discerning local community cannot be understated.

Also, regarding fresh sea food, unless you're at the sea and knpw the fishmongers all seafood of quality is very expensive in the UK. For example, Scottish lobster and Dover sole is cheaper in France than in England. This is true of most produce and goes a long way to explaining the perception of UK gastronomy; excellent at a high level but much less accessible than international counterparts when related to quality. I theorise this is consequent of a 'cheap and cheerful' culture among much of the working class, but that's another conversation.

[Anonymous No.14160766]

Protip: Crab meat and cream cheese signify a shitty sushi roll

Buy squid, eel, and salmon rolls for the best rolls possiable.

[Anonymous No.14160775]

>>14153101
When did whites start sucking the collective Jap dick so much?
I don't get it either anon.
For that money you can have a steak dinner with all the fixins
And chinese food is even worse because they'll add any meat ....and I do mean any meat they see to your dinner.
And the cooks are all dirty greasy nerds that pick their nose and then touch your plates.
At least Japs are clean tho.

[Anonymous No.14160781]

>>14160775
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

[Anonymous No.14160795]

>>14160781

[Anonymous No.14160825]

>>14160781
is today opposite day?
Why didnt anyone tell me! sheesh!

[Anonymous No.14160903]

for me it's the Philadelphia Roll, Eel Roll, and Spicy Tuna Roll.

[Anonymous No.14160916]

>>14160903
I, too, enjoy Kroger Sushi

[Anonymous No.14160923]

>>14160916
gross. i get those 3 basic rolls at any sushi joint and they're usually good. if they're not then that place isn't worth going too.

[Anonymous No.14160952]

I dunno man a good salmon roll with a dab of soy sauce is just near the ultimate food for me. only time I'd use the term "mouth feel" and feel justified in being a pretentious shit.

tuna belly tops it but cant get a lot of that.

[Anonymous No.14161167]

>>14153101
If you don't get it then you forgot to order yellowtail.

[Anonymous No.14161178]

Yeah shushi is bland, it's all about the soy sauce, wasabi and ginger.

[Anonymous No.14161185]

>>14161178
*sushi

[Anonymous No.14161187]

>>14161178
Okay, tastelet.

[Anonymous No.14161192]

>>14153101
Ceviche is the better raw fish dish, OP.

[Anonymous No.14161247]

>>14161192
>Ceviche is the better raw fish
It's not raw, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14162633]

>>14153101
It's great because of its simplicity, your taste buds have been burnt out by fatty foods.

[Anonymous No.14162639]

I wish I could deliver this Japanese sushi to you.
It's about $25 and it's delicious but nothing special.
We Japanese avoid using sesame and oil in sushi.
I'm not denying this sushi, but I want you to remember.

[Anonymous No.14162677]

>>14160758
can't believe i've finally read an accurate post about british food on /ck/
well put

[Anonymous No.14162860]

>>14153205
Chinks

[Re No.14163470]

>>14153101
>I ordered shitty sushi made by chinks and did not like it.

[Anonymous No.14163647]

>>14162639
Fuck i miss japan, sushi everywhere else is jacked up in price and not as good.

[Anonymous No.14163757]

>>14153101
I think you mean exorbitant

[日本人ですが No.14164632]

写真の寿司は日本人が作った物とは思えません。日本にない寿司も映ってます。日本の店でも日本人を騙る人がおおいので。
それが本場の寿司だと思われたら悲しいです

[日本より No.14164958]

是非日本へ本当の寿司を食べに来て下さい。(^^)

[Anonymous No.14165091]

>>14164632
I once had the singular embarrassment of asking a chef at my local teppanyaki what part of Japan he was from.

Vietnam. for those wondering. To be fair, the owner is a little old Japanese man who is a first generation immigrant.

[Anonymous No.14165227]

>>14159697

[Anonymous No.14165753]

>>14164958
Take me there pls

[Anonymous No.14165846]

chicken katsu!?
it is a not japanease sushi.

[Anonymous No.14165862]

>>14153101

The sushi you ate were not authentic sushi at all.
I recommend you go to Japan and try it there.
more yummy and cheaper than in your country.