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Why was early American cuisine so horrible?

>> No.14120458

>>14120450
>early
>advertisement in color
you must have been home schooled

>> No.14120535 [DELETED] 

I wonder if people actually brought this shit or if this stuff was just created to try to sell products.

>> No.14120545

I wonder if people actually made this weird shit or if this stuff was just created to try to sell products.

>> No.14120552

>mfw boomers call fruit with soybean oil a "salad"

>> No.14120553

>>14120450
I know this is a shit post, but someone will come along actually wanting to know the answer, so here it is.
When industrial food production started to really take off, especially after the depression and WWII, there were lots of new products available. In order to try and boost sales as much as they could companies hired marketing firms to make cookbooks and articles with new, novel recipes that featured their products. They were cranking out so much material they had to come up with increasingly bizarre combinations.

>> No.14120567

>>14120553
>increasingly bizarre combinations
Like peanut butter and jelly

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>>14120545
Yes. Yes they did. Shit like this really appealed to Midwestern boomers who grew up right after the war. The ideal 50s~60s wife cooking with all the modern space race kitchen of the future bullshit. My grandmother is that woman. I raided her recipie book a few years back when I really started to get in to cooking. She has several recipes that are 50+ years old that call for shit like oleo, dole whip, and other crazy shit she has had to make more than one substitution for as time has gone on due to ingredients not being made anymore/renamed/recalled due to safety. She has recipes clipped out of magazines that haven't been in print for 30 years. The women at her rotary club all make the same kind of shit.
It's all great and causes diabeetus and cancer.

>> No.14120774

>>14120450
Great depression is to blame

>> No.14120784

>>14120450
Why do these pears look like a uterus

>> No.14120792

>>14120450
White American food > big-titted cotton-picking jiggaboo food

>> No.14120822

>>14120784
you would serve this dish as a subtle signal when your in-laws came over. empty = still trying, miracle whip = husband creampied me so hard we're having twins

>> No.14120882

>>14120450
The Midwest isn’t the entirety of America euronigger

>> No.14120915

>>14120450
because it was dictated by corporations rather than tradition since americans have none outside of maybe the south

>> No.14120987

hard times made them eat a lot of weird shit

>> No.14121002

>>14120458
>you must have been home schooled
Homeschooled kids are more intelligent and have superior life skills compared to public fool system kids though. They are actually taught how to budget and shop instead of how to wear their hats backwards and suck off Tyrone and Enrique. Stop shilling rabbi.

>> No.14121006

>>14120987

The 50s-70s were the exact opposite of hard times.

>> No.14121031

>>14121002
Touch a nerve, home-school kid?

>> No.14121080

>>14120774
You're not wrong. Meatloaf was invented during The Great Depression. Better than starving I guess.

Prior to WWI, it was pretty common for rich and middling classes to hire domestics who've typically honed their cooking skills over generations. Before refrigeration, modern canning methods, and gas/electric ovens, it was imperative for cooks to get creative and use as much of the animal as possible.

Workers being laid off left a fertile ground for food companies like Kraft to ramp up production on cheap pre made meals, a trend that continued into the post war era as women were continuing to enter the workforce leaving less time to cook. Decreasing skilled domestic workers & more "time saving" technology coincidentally created a profitable market of middle class white women who had little prior cooking skills.

>>14120731
Wild

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>>14120450
>all these old advertisements were directed at housewives because back then they actually stayed home and had kids
>mayo and pears is clearly some kind of pregnancy craving
>no one has kids anymore so everything is just sugar and salt

>> No.14121122

>>14121031
>Touch a nerve, home-school kid?
I'm not a homeschool kid, I am a GATE kid tested by the state of California public school system to have an IQ of 137. That's why I know public school is trash for retards, because you retards tried your best to hold me back and slow me down for the sake of Tyrone and Paco.

My nephew is homeschooled by my sister who runs her own business and makes a 6 figure income because she is gifted as well, and my mother who had a scholarship from UC Berkeley in the 60s.

>> No.14121123

>>14121111
>because back then they actually stayed home and had kids
Most marketing was actually trying to convince women to stay home by showing how easy being a housewife can be with postwar innovations-- they wanted women out of the factories now that the men were all back from war.

>> No.14121127

>>14121123
no shit, men are more productive and don't cost the state as much.

>> No.14121158

>>14120553
Yes this is why you fuckers eat cake for breakfast and drink hot bean water

>> No.14121163

>>14120731
When I was growing up, my grandma called butter "oleo" and coffee "sanka". My grandpa finally had enough (I'm guessing in the 80's) and outlawed margarine and instant coffee and demanded real butter and whole bean coffee. They both had a fucking hard-on for canned fruits, cottage cheese, medium-well roast beef, and Progresso canned soup with saltines, though. I miss them. At least they were honest people unlike all of the faggots blundering around these days.

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>>14120450
People slowly forgot how to cook from scratch, or got lazy. American cuisine is fine enough, but when you only look at proletariat grub, it's either something you get from a fast food place or a fucking casserole because they're easy.

The rest of American cuisine borrows from other cultures. Bbq comes from black and jewish backgrounds, pastrami came from jewish backgrounds, spaghetti and meat sauce like a lot of us know it come from italian american cuisine, orange chicken and chow mein borrow from chinese cuisine, etc.

Pure american cuisine is shit like casserole, chili, and scrapple. Chili has to be one of the best things to come out of unfettered American cuisine.

>> No.14121178

>>14121122
Damn even with an iq of 137 you still act like a retard

>> No.14121183

>>14121163
>At least they were honest people unlike all of the faggots blundering around these days.
humans are products of their environments. the reason everyone today is a dishonest piece of shit is because were all raised to be that way, we're told thats its ok to lie and cheat in order to get ahead in life, in fact we're encouraged to do it. How many normies do you know who boast about having great jobs they're completely unqualified for? that kind of shit wouldn't happen in yesterdays world.

>> No.14121462

>>14120450
Big mayo used to wield significant power in the panhandle states. Magazines were coerced into creating these terrible recipes out of fear.

>> No.14121467

>>14121122
>mother HAD
>HAD
>my IQ is 137
hearty kek

>> No.14121481

>>14121123
They should have just paid married women to stay home.

>> No.14121484

>>14121173
I think chicken fried steak is pretty great

>> No.14121495

>>14121122
>137
Lmao ok retard

>> No.14121497

>>14121173
>>14121484
Oh yeah, I think clam chowder is American too
God bless usa bros

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>>14120450
My brother and his wife were traveling in India for an entire day once and they stopped at a little hovel of a place and she was craving fruit salad. They brought her mixed fruit with mayo.

>> No.14122171

>>14121122
imagine bragging about your IQ to strangers on korean basket-weaving forum

>> No.14122214

>>14121002
Hello Karen

>> No.14122229

>>14121710
Fruit salad always disappointed me at family dinners. It seems like a lot of work to make something worse than just eating whatever your favorite fruit is.

>> No.14122277

>>14121002
Vaccines cause autism, right?

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>>14121002
Imagine being this dumb

>> No.14122413

>>14122277
>dude I injected metal right into my fucking blood lol what do you mean I have brain damage
You have brain damage

>> No.14122416

>>14122404
>homeschool kids outperform public school kids
>lol don’t want that getting out better call him a retard
Fuck of moshe

>> No.14122434

>>14122413
>he doesn't have iron in his blood

>> No.14122459

>>14120731
>Shit like this really appealed to Midwestern boomers

HaHa! No.
Coastie boomers are who did this shit.
My midwest boomer grandparents, their friends and the church or Lodge dinners were always things like, pork chops, roasted venison, dumplings etc. things like good hearty home cooked meals.
On trips to extended family in San Diego or Staten Island it was they and their coastie boomers groups who did casseroles or disgusting shit out of a can and into a jello mold.

Seriously my midwest boomer grandma ragged on her coastie boomer sister for the crap prepacked mayo-drenched food that coastie sister prepared.

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14122488

Fear of gommunism let the military industrial complex trick flyovers into shoving poison into their bodies to trigger the leftie lib marxist university collegecuck feminazis

>> No.14122508

>>14120450
>Hey look I found a bad recipe in a cookbook
>Now let me tell you how all American food is horrible
This is like me calling Paula Dean a shit cook because of the Turduken

>> No.14122724

>>14121467
She's probably dead, anon. Not that hard to figure out.

>> No.14122762

>>14120458
there have been colors for as long as there have been humans, that advert could be mesopotamian for all i care and it still wouldn't change the fact that people used colors in their images for their whole history.

>> No.14122767

>>14121002
american school system is so bad that i actually believe you.

>> No.14122784

>>14121080
>You're not wrong. Meatloaf was invented during The Great Depression. Better than starving I guess.
Meatloaf is good though, retard

>> No.14122786

>>14121710
you might as well put a few bags of candy there and call it a day.

>> No.14122795

>>14121002
Homeschooling is based, good for you anon.

>> No.14122805

>>14122762
so you're saying miracle whip was invented in Mesopotamia?

>> No.14122807

>>14122805
yeah, miracle whip is as old as the time itself.

>> No.14122809

>>14122762
>there have been colors for as long as there have been humans
I still think it's one of our best inventions

>> No.14122817

>>14120450
Because it wasn't cuisine, it was marketing. Those companies were thinking of any way possible to sell more of their products, and consumers were less educated.

>People only use a thin spread of mayo on a sandwich at lunch, and rarely for dinner what do?
>Fuck it tell em it's a great dessert, by the time they figure it out they already bought at least 1 jar.

>> No.14122828

>>14122762
based retard

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>>14120450

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>>14120450
>Why was early American cuisine so horrible?

This was post-WWII, when the U.S. was rich and powerful and companies everywhere were trying to meet the demand from consumers for quick and easy everything, including food, which resulted in retarded shit like mayo on canned pears.

My WWII generation parents for example, (born in 1922 and 1925 respectively) drank instant coffee exclusively after the war (as did all their friends) despite growing up prior to WII with real coffee (in fact, my mom had an old school grinder hidden away in the back of the kitchen cabinet) because despite instant coffee clearly being shittier, it was gee-wiz space age stuff for them.

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>>14120731
that is one of the best cook books ever made. the recipes are way better for you than any modern ones and no they don't cause diabetes or cancer.

>> No.14122858

>>14121122
I was tested in 5th grade with an IQ of 140.

>> No.14122889

>>14121122
sup Chris Langan

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>>14122762
ah yes the pre human colourless world

>> No.14122918

>>14121163
good on your granddad for getting laid, that woulda been sweet.

>> No.14122927

>>14121002
yeah but you end up weird and unlikeable

>> No.14122976

>>14122927
You ended up like that anyway so might as well get handjobs from mom between geometry and US history

>> No.14122990

>>14122976
I had two dads, at least at normal school i got to see simpsons porn some kid printed off during the bus ride home.

>> No.14122992

>>14121002
>UM ACKTUALLY

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>>14122851
>JET PROCESS
Fucking retarded boomers I swear

>> No.14123011

To add context to all this shit, the reason why mayonnaise and gelatin are so firmly central to this type of cuisine results from French-influence on American diets at the time. Gelatin itself prior to instant gelatin was horrible to make because it required hours of cooking bones and then having the gelatin actually set. By this difficulty, it became associated with much high-brow cuisine. The French also gave the savory gelatin to American cuisine such as vegetable and meat gelatins, like Ham in Aspic. Both ingredients, to the housewife, had been culturally ingrained as fancy and served the decorative aspect of these fucked up recipes.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25616238?seq=4#metadata_info_tab_contents

Pretty awesome research article on it.

t. did research on this

>> No.14123016

>>14121002
Never met someone who was homeschooled that wasn't an autistic, narcissistic, brat. Sorry your parents told you were a precious gift, you're just like the rest of us, but more rude.

>> No.14124124

>>14122488
go back

>> No.14124141

>>14122927
lol you're on 4chan nerd.

>> No.14124154

>>14124141
yeah and?

>> No.14124184

>>14120450
Holy fuck that's disgusting.

>> No.14124214

>>14121002
Looks like homeschooling made you a stereotyping scumbag that can only listen to himself

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>>14121122
I don’t care retard

>> No.14124240

>>14121183
It makes me a little sad anon. We’ve all been conditioned to be conniving psychopaths who would fuck over anybody just to get a little ahead

>> No.14124242

>>14123011
thank you for providing an actual source on this

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>>14121173
America also invented the chocolate chip cookie without any outside influence, cookielets absolutely cannot compete

>> No.14124395

>>14121122
>137 IQ
>Went to college instead of becoming a Wendy’s executive chef

Yeah no.

>> No.14124464

>>14122809
>humans invented color

>> No.14124475

>>14122807
I read somewhere that hardened mayo found in king tut's tomb was still edible when melted, all those years later. Nature's crazy.

>> No.14124620

>>14120450
I can just imagine some 24 year old housewife getting beaten by her husband for serving him such a shitty salad 60 years ago

>> No.14124629

>>14120450
check townsends youtube channel. Colonial american food was fantastic

>> No.14124648

>>14120731
As nasty as some of them are, mid-century cooking was kino af

>> No.14124759

>>14122459
Not exactly Midwestern but on the border here
I've been to far to many potlucks to know that it depends if they want to cook or are forced to cook. Old people will bring stuff like green bean casserole in masses if they feel obligated to bring something, but if they like to cook, you get some top tier soups and roasts

>> No.14124848

>>14121002
oh no

>> No.14125028

>>14121163
>My grandpa finally had enough (I'm guessing in the 80's) and outlawed margarine and instant coffee and demanded real butter and whole bean coffee.

My moms cooking has slowly tasted worse over the years and it is happening at the exact same rate as her level of progress down the American “health” rabbit hole.

>> No.14125048

>>14121173
white, black, jewish, fucking green, if you're born here you're fucking AMERICAN ya commie bastard.

>> No.14125076

>>14121080
>Meatloaf was invented during The Great Depression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatloaf#History
>Meatloaf of minced meat was mentioned in the Roman cookery collection Apicius as early as the 5th century. University and author of A Revolution in Eating, How the Quest for Food Shaped America," believes that meatloaf has its origins in scrapple, a mixture of ground pork and cornmeal served by German-Americans in Pennsylvania since colonial times. "Meatloaf Gaining Popularity among Food Connoisseurs", www.buzzle.com, retrieved 3 May 2018</ref> [2] Meatloaf in the contemporary American sense did not appear in cookbooks until the late 19th century.

>> No.14125313

>>14122996
The blast processing of food

>> No.14125334

>>14121158
and eat a fucking weird fruit like a banana on a hardly nutritious cereal product peddled by a guy who wants to chop off your dick

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why don't cookbooks have cute illustrations anymore?

>> No.14125413

>>14121002
Also makes you into a social retard. School is not about the subjects but about learning to socialise and to deal with other people.

>> No.14125439

>>14120731
Small price to pay for living in the golden generation

>> No.14125460

>>14120450
I'm pretty sure stuff like this has always been popular. Not mayo and tuna jello salad specifically but the promise of the future in the from of cutting edge food has always been alluring. We only have to look at stuff like soylent and those, won't belive it's not meat, burgers.

>> No.14125468

>>14120731
my grandmother's recipes are like this except half of hers are complicated candy recipes. she would just stuff whatever scrap of paper into her typewriter and type a recipe on it. my mom was throwing it all away so I took all of them instead. it's a bunch of completely random shit like old bank slips and magazine order forms with recipes on the backs. some of the recipes call for whole boxes of products that are probably completely different now who even knows.

>> No.14125476

>>14121467
Dumb bitch lost it

>> No.14125492

>>14121122
you live in cali mcdonalds managers make six figures there

>> No.14125518

>>14121002
Eh depends, there are good public schools, and some 'home school' parents are actual child abusers. I've seen both sides of that. You on the other hand, have schizophrenia and should probably look in to getting that checked.

>> No.14125535

>>14122229
I think I'd like fruit salad if only they didn't put marshmallows and mandarin oranges in it, but I've never liked it

>> No.14125554

>>14124464
Who else, retard. You see any animals mixing up pigments?

>> No.14125564

>>14122784
It's just lazy person's meatballs

>> No.14125585

>>14123011
I did my thesis on aspic too

>> No.14125797

>>14120450

It wasn't all bad but the bad's remained in memory more just because of how bad it was.

>> No.14125799

>>14125048
This is why I can't stand this country anymore. Everyone is a civnat cuck that wants nigger and shitskin penises in everyone's anus.

>> No.14125815

>>14125363
Because Jews and commies hate beauty and all richfags (These people run the companies) are cosmopolitan faggots and every pleb fell for the civnat nigger dick meme.

>> No.14125828 [DELETED] 

>>14125413
All I learned from school is that all teachers are commies. Niggers and shitskind and Jews are terrible creatures that all normalfags are cuck slave faggots that love niggers.

>> No.14125829

>>14121002
Better life skills, definitely not.

>> No.14125838

>>14121002
>homeschooled
There's a 0% chance you're straight.

>> No.14125850

>>14125518
Why do you want erect dark colored male human genitalia inside of you and your family's rectums?

>> No.14125852

>>14120731
my granny used to make me mayonnaise and banana sandwiches and for a long time i just thought that was normal

>> No.14125857

>>14125838
There is a 100% chance that you are a nigger lover.

>> No.14125863

>>14122459
i am also from the midwest and it must be your family specifically because all the old people i knew ate disgusting shit like this all the time

>> No.14125870

>>14125852
I will now try this even though I know it is going to be horrible. I am going to go the general store a couple miles away to get a banana.

>> No.14125883

>>14125863
Silent generation had a sense of duty and honor and cucked themselves. Boomers are pure retardation brainfried NPCs.

>> No.14125891

>>14125850
i don't think you've even seen a black person before

>> No.14125901

>>14125870
it honestly wasn't even that bad just a weird thing to eat

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>>14120458
color existed before the 1950s

>> No.14125912

>>14125891
One of my favorite nigger lover arguments. T. Lived in the ghettos of Chicago for 10 years. Keep gobbling that nigger cock cuck.
>>14125901
Good to know.

>> No.14125928

>>14125912
those are just black people tainted from a toxic ouroboros of modern african american culture. real black people who are raised in a normal family are completely different. i don't consider niggers as black people they're are an entirely different race.

>> No.14125939

>>14121002
Home schooled kids lack socialzation with peers and are much more likely to have learning deficiencies and lack of preparation for being able to take care of themselves. When they turn 18 and 'graduate' they have nothing to do and no idea how to do it. Go suck a camel dick

>> No.14125954

>>14122990
Who is printing porn on the bus ride home?

>> No.14125958

>>14125928
>>14125928
I don't. They are animals to me, around blacks never relax. I had to dodge bullets and knives everyday.

>> No.14126052

>>14125828
implying this isn't something you should know. The best teacher is experience.

>> No.14126058

>>14125850
Do the voices talk constantly or do they come and go? Say hi to Terry for me when it's all over.

>> No.14126140

>>14121002
>oi! The schules need to teach our kinder to stretch a dime!

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>>14126058

>> No.14126173

>>14121122
>137 IQ
Do you watch Rick and Morty?

>> No.14126181

>>14121710
I was building a deck for a young middle Eastern couple. They were both very nice but new to North American culture. The one day, the woman made lunch for me. It was rye bread with ranch dressing and one spinach leaf on it. I dunno if she thought that's what we ate here or if they eat that over there but Jesus christ. I took a bite to be polite and when she went back in the house I threw it in the hole I dug for the post.

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>>14121002
Yeah, that's all well and good, but they also learn exactly zero fucking social skills and are over-sensitive. They can't handle the smallest social situation without having a meltdown because they never had to deal with bullies or people who didn't want to be their friend. All they dealt with was a father that constantly praised them and a mother that literally taught them to jack off and started performing sexual favors on them in their teens. I'm not even kidding, homeschooling and incest have such a high correlation it's not even funny. Look it up.

>> No.14126202

>>14122229
3 fruit salass are good. For example banana, apple and strawberry, etc. Dont add anything other than a touch of sugar in a big batch and let it sit overnight in a bowl and it makes a natural syrup that isn't overwhelming but nice and ripens the fruit just right.

>> No.14126215

>>14122404
He's right, for most countries. The problem with home school kids isn't their knowledge but their lack of social skills.

>> No.14126232

>>14122488
that girl probably never had to worry about a thing other than taking care of 3 babies

>> No.14126240

>>14122724
He's a lowly 124 iq. He cannot into past and present tense.

>> No.14126246

You retards are taking the image too seriously. You made an actual salad and used miracle whip as a dressing. An actual salad with lettuce and sliced pear. The "pear halve" part is because that it the only way they used to can them. You had to alive them yourself.
The image is just to catch your eye. As you can see the quality isnt so great and thin strips of a white thing would not convey the ingredient as well as the unmistakable shape of a pear half.

>> No.14126249

>>14122786
you're thinking of "cool whip". "Miracle whip" is essentially mayonnaise

>> No.14126256

>>14120458
this statement is retarded beyond disbelief.

>> No.14126260

>>14120450
>Why is American cuisine so horrible?
Fixed

>> No.14126293

>>14122817
I used to work for a company that made caulking. It was almost a monopoly. At least regionally and if you wanted the other brand you'd have to travel farther than most people would want to for a $2 product. So the company decided to make a clear color and a white color. No one wanted the clear (it was for wood working and shit). We purposely made the colors difficult to tell apart so customers would have to buy more when they bought the clear one.

>> No.14126366

>>14122889
are you talking about the chris langan who had a roller backpack and had his own lunch table lmao

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14126514

>>14126366
>He doesn't walk around like an autistic Chad rolling and carrying backpacks and tables every where he goes.
NGMI lad.

>> No.14126713

>>14125564
you're mom suck my lazy meatballs all night long

>> No.14126776

>>14121002
I have never once met a kid who was completely homeschooled who wasn't weird as shit, and of the 6 private school kids I'm friends with only one got a real job. Two of the others live off their trust funds and a third is a professional dog walker now because his helicopter parents could march him through high school but couldn't stop him from spending his days snorting coke and playing madden all day once he went off to college

>> No.14127236

>>14125909
Early America was centuries before that

>> No.14127435
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All the weird stuff that was made, the one thing I remember my grandma making was Golden Glow Salad. Stuff was the bomb and grandma always made it during Thanksgiving

>> No.14127500
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>>14126256
This
I just found this picture of Benjamin Franklin, and ITS IN COLOR
And I bet that's a color printing press he is using too

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>>14120450
Not everyone cooked like a midwestern housewife.

This is a menu from a nyc hotel in 1950

>> No.14128041

>>14125828
I don't live in America so I can't relate

>> No.14128224

>>14120450
>lets fill an entire continent with mayos
how is this surprising?

>> No.14128280

>>14127812
I'm sure you could put the bulk of that shit in a memetic staged 50s add with a brand name attached and people would ridicule it. That's just how this works. Imagine an ad for Green Giant peas describing how you could make and omelette with green peas, heavy cream, butter, and flour.

>> No.14128308

>>14121122
Bro look I'm a GATE kid as well and I still use my hands to count.

>> No.14128314

>>14126232
that's a man

>> No.14128446

>>14125870
>bananas from the general store a couple miles away
How's the fur trapping business treating you, stranger? Anyways keep an eye out for them apache injuns parder.

>> No.14128456

>>14126181
This happens to a lot of people living in another country because they dont recognize half the shit in the store so they just make shit up

>> No.14128539

>>14121122
Haha bitchboy

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>>14120450
>>14127812
Post menus lads

heres one from 1949

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>>14120450

>> No.14130833

19 fucking (You)s to that bait as of this writing. You are all idiots and retard-enablers.

>> No.14131255

>>14126232
yeah and alcoholic abusive husband who would rape her

>> No.14131259

>>14120450
>1950s
>Early American
Anon read a book

>> No.14131267

>>14122927
Can confirm, am currently posting on /ck/

>> No.14131327

>>14121173
>Bbq comes from black and jewish backgrounds
no it fucking doesn't. what kind of jewish propaganda is this?

>> No.14131610

>>14120450
are we all just willing to accept the 60s as “early american” now

>> No.14132430

>>14121173
>chilli con carne is an invention of america, not borrowed from another cuisine
admittedly mexico is quite nearby, but it still doesn't count

>> No.14132671

>>14127812
$40 for clam juice? This must have been a really fancy place to justify that cost

>> No.14132696

>>14131255
>raped
>by husband
Pick one

>> No.14132713

>>14132671
Those are in cents anon, note how more expensive stuff as a space between the first and second digits from the left. Before inflation really took off whole numbers almost always represented cents on a menu, and if they didn't a dollar sign would specify otherwise.

>> No.14132766

>>14132430
Chilli con carne was an invention of the Spanish colonists, long predating the US annexation of Texas from Mexico, but Texas is a part of the US now.

>> No.14132841

>>14132766
yes, but it was created by hispanics, not by native WASP americans, so it falls under the same category as the things he listed in his second paragraph.

>> No.14132919

>>14129530
The crazy thing about that menu is comparatively how much fresh vegetables cost. You can get an Alaska Shrimp Cocktail for .85 but crisp celery is .40? And a Crab Meat Cocktail for .75 but sliced cucumbers with dill dressing is .40? Crazy.

>> No.14133087

>>14132919
Consider that potatoes are pennies per pound, but a large order of fries is several dollars. I wonder if this isn't the same strategy.

>> No.14133353

>>14120450
>immediate glut of mass production products after famine times of Great Depression and WWII
>New products pushed out experimental recipes to try to get people buying their stuff

>> No.14133364

>>14120784
Mechanically prepped canned pears.

>> No.14133372

>>14120915
Most pre-WWII traditions were what people brought with them from Europe.

>> No.14133381

>>14121002
>t. Quiverfull mom of 15th kid and 8th grade education

>> No.14133463

>>14121173
Burgers are technicaaaally german back when it was a "hamburg steak" which eventually was served on a bun in state fairs. A lot burger places and other small restaurants that pioneered american food was greek immigrants for some reason.

>> No.14133490

>>14125363
Probably because photos are more practical. Maybe because drawings arent popular with people that buy cookbooks or they want to be more serious and less casual.

>> No.14133913

>>14120450
when I was growing up my mother would put mayo, not miracle whip, and shredded cheddar cheese on canned pear halves. I admit I ate them and they were pretty good. Sweet, a little salty, the more cheese the better.

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>>14120450
Heres a menu from a NYC restaraunt in 1889. I wouldn't call it 'horrible'.

Lots of pies, roasts and stews on the dinner menu. The all day menu looks pretty good. The wierdest things im seeing is pickled lamb tongues and the milk stew with oysters.

Also, boullion soup? Isnt that just broth? and what is Green Turtle soup?

>> No.14134284

>>14134120
>Porterhouse, .50c
>About $14 today
Damn, even adjusted for inflation that's pretty cheap.

>> No.14134364

>>14121173
>bbq
>jewish
What the hell are you on? You think the Jews were roasting hogs in their shtetls?

>> No.14134377

>>14134284
Yeah, but there wasn't much "science" into the beef, for better or worse, so it was just a slab of whatever fed cow without much finishing or "effort" put into the animal outside of just being beef.

>> No.14134386

>>14134364
Anon was >implying that smoked corned beef brisket is a Jewish thing, thus technically bbq as we know it today, albeit smoking and salting meat for preservation is synonymous with multiple cultures over every continent since forever.

>> No.14134388

>>14122459
Are you people retarded it wasn’t any boomers doing this shit the boomers were three years old it was their parents who created and cooked these recipes

>> No.14134479

>>14133463
Yes it came from my hometown of Hamburg which was a mayor departure point for immigrants to the US

>> No.14135111

>>14134120
>You could have a tenderloin steak with onions, lamb chops, Welsh rarebit, and golden buck for a single dollar
what the fuck
how did something so valuable in the late 19th century become so utterly worthless today. You'd need over a 100 dollars to pay for that shit, but we aren't earning 100 times as more. What the fuck.

>> No.14135386

>>14122849
Don't flatter yourself fatty

>> No.14135456

>>14120450
Because the US has convinved it's population it lives in the greatest country of the world, all the while cornering them into surviving off cattle feed. The whole thing is so upside down that complex multi-step preamde artificaial products are cheaper than actual produce with nothing added except water.
Amricans love their good old "working class apple pie Americana", but hte truth is that a simple fruit or veggie that hasn' been fucked with is a luxury item in the US, most people can't afford to eat like that, and everyone finds that normal.
I'm the first to recognize the gigantic steps forward thet have occured in the US in the last decade, but the situation is so bad these steps seem to barely make a dent in the problem.

>> No.14135461

>>14122851
I got addicted to coffee instant type 2 due to steve's videos.

>> No.14135574

>>14134120
>Green Turtle soup?
People used to eat turtle a lot. It was hugely popular. This is why there are very few turtles now

>> No.14136575

>>14135111
>but we aren't earning 100 times as more
Most of this is because the Right Wing won back in the 80s, killed high marginal tax rates that push more of the profits to payroll, and retarded minimum wage increases that set the wage floor.

>> No.14136738

>>14136575
The process that has driven Americans from fair wages/prices to low wages/high prices can be traced back to the new deal.

>> No.14136959

>>14135574
Green turtle soup may not be eaten now, but snapper turtle soup is still popular in several states, and they're not exactly endangered either (the species is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN). A fun fact is that turtle soup was President Taft's favourite meal, and he brought a chef to the White House to specifically cook this dish for him.

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>>14120450
>Why was early American cuisine so horrible?

Because early Americans = Europeans.

>> No.14137042

>>14120545
my grandma will eat this shit with shredded cheese on top all day

>> No.14137562

>>14136738
No, it can't. The New Deal and tax increases unfucked the systems that lead to the Great Depression, and we're in a far worse economic equity state now than we were then.

>> No.14137596

>>14135111
America collapsed in 1971 and the general population hasn't caught on.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>> No.14137647

>>14137596
>Gold standard retardation
The Gold Standard being retired is why we haven't had another depression you twat.

>> No.14137651

>>14137647
Meh, I'm not trying to obliquely hint at the gold standard. Lots of shit has been getting worse since 1971 and the end of Bretton Woods is only part of it.

>> No.14137807

>>14127500
No that's a water color done over a black and white print. very common and cheaper in the short run than color printing.

t. art his student

>> No.14137820

>>14131327
>>14134364
lol jews are so delusional and conceited. They claim to have also invented frying fish. From the wiki page for fish and chips:
>The tradition in the UK of fish battered and fried in oil may have come from Western Sephardic Jewish immigrants from Holland.

>> No.14137955

>>14126199
bruh, this is some projecting

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>>14121002
yikes

>> No.14137994

>>14121710
>travels around in india
>Craves fruit salad
what the fuck? your brother should have said "no"

>> No.14138002

>>14126181
my dad thought american breakfast sandwiches involved a two slices of wheat bread, some eggs, ketchup with tomatoes and ranch. this is what my parents gave me so i wouldnt have to go to class with fucking indian food.

>> No.14138082

>>14138002
>wheat bread, some eggs, ketchup with tomatoes and ranch
I've never eaten that, but that doesn't even sound that bad.

>> No.14138215

>>14137651
Reagan's tax cuts turned what would have been a short-term economic downturn into an uncontrolled norm.

>> No.14138251

Enjoy your vaccines, devils cattle

>> No.14138522

>>14125554
actually there are many cases of wild animals interbreeding retard even polar bears and northamerican brown bears get it on from time to time fag.

>> No.14139135

>>14126181
Thats a funny story.

>> No.14139162

>>14120450
Americans and especially boomers are extremely susceptible to advertising. So when miracle whip and jello etc came out they advertised it literally any way they could think of. And surprise, they bought it.

>> No.14139178

>>14122851
Wasn't instant coffee actually potentially better than the crappy percolator coffee everyone drank back then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9avjD9ugXc

>> No.14139228

>>14120450
That's early corporate America

>> No.14139698

>>14137562
>hurr durr lets transform this giant continent into a welfare state
Sure it had nothing to do with it

>> No.14139984

>>14139698
I'll remind you that we were at our economic best during that period, and are even worse than the events leading to the Great Depression now.

>> No.14140313

>>14120450
you know its just a fucked up variation on a waldorf salad, right? Top it with granola and a grape, whatever.

>> No.14140628

>>14123016
The big difference I've seen is how many siblings there are (and how closely spaced they are) and how integrated the family is into different social circles. I met a lot of homeschooling families back east, and the ones with one or two kids, or kids spaced way out so as to not have any sibling peers, were always super fucking weird. The families with 5+ kids that were had in relative proximity and participated in various social functions (church, sports, music, whatever) were totally normal.

>> No.14140800

>>14121122
>>14121002
how to make an incredible post for remembering embarrassingly years later

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>>14121173
did you foget we invented the mission burito and tex mex?

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>>14121173
also we invented pepperonis
italy had something similar but it wasnt pepperoni

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>>14131255
>yeah and alcoholic abusive husband who would rape her
mate mate mate, those are outliears

also women drink too , hell women drink all the time

>> No.14141267

>>14121002
Based upper echelon anon

>> No.14141294

>>14120450
WW1/2 attempts at homogenizing the country with idealogies like 'food is fuel' and 'drop the hyphenated' (i.e. you arent German-American or Italian-American, you're just American.)
Food culture being hugely important, it failed.

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>>14121031
>>14122214
>>14122277
>>14122404
>>14122927
>>14122992
>>14123016
>>14124214
>>14124848
>>14125413
>>14125518
>>14125838
>>14125829
>>14125939
>>14126199
>>14126776
>>14133381
>>14137963
Fluoride is a neurotoxic chemical and an endocrine disruptor that lowers IQ. It is in the same class of chemicals as lead, arsenic, and mercury.
Premature cutting and clamping of the umbilical cord for cord blood banking deprives newborns of their rightly due stem cell rich blood that is necessary for their early unhindered development.
The circumcision of male newborns causes a crippling sensory deficit noticeable after puberty, but more importantly completely fries the brain by inflicting prolonged acute pain in the most sensitive part of the body, which might cause depression later in life and will definitely cause shellshock to be embedded deep within one's psyche.
The current CDC schedule for vaccinations is designed to expose the developing infantile brain to as many heavy metals and neurotoxins as possible to ensure more brain damage.
The American diet is designed to stunt growth and destroy health, and cause addictions to poisonous food. You know about processed food and sugar and their link to obesity and diabetes, now look up aspartame / sucralose and the gulf war syndrome.
The American education system is designed to permanently beat in what's left of the child's mentality. Designed from a program that conditions from an early age to be able to do factory work, the ES drives a stake in the child's community, teaches them according to the ZOG narrative, and encourages bullying et al forms of foul behavior that would otherwise not happen if you didn't take 20 stunted children and force them in a cage for the entirety of the day.
All denounces are simply going about their programming to brag about being genetically modified goyim.

>> No.14142479

>>14124240
>>14121183
seek out brad troemel - hustle report