/wine/

[Anonymous No.14020006]

/wine/ thread - recent purchases edition

What have you bought recently? Drinking now or cellaring?

I'm really excited to drink my Chave Saint-Joseph, most of his wines are brutally expensive so it was nice that I could find one that was somewhat affordable. Also excited to drink that Bourgueil, never had a wine from the appellation before.

[Anonymous No.14020022]

>>14020006
>Chave Saint-Joseph
>buying or consuming wines that have been killed and poisoned with sulfites
I really hope you don't do this.

[Anonymous No.14020027]

>>14020022
What wines do you like then, nattybrain?

[Anonymous No.14020067]

>>14020027
New NSA-added bordeaux which can be aged. I wouldn't buy a dead wine (ie anything with sulfites) because it won't age.

[Anonymous No.14020068]

Only women drink wine.

[Anonymous No.14020092]

>>14020067
I would say the opposite. Wines with no added sufites often turn completely volatile after they're open for a day, whereas those that do seem to hold up. I haven't cellared any no added sulfite wines long-term though so I can't make that judgement. It also doesn't help that most no added sulfite wine doesn't have the structure to age.

I don't see why something has to have microbes in it to properly develop.

[Anonymous No.14020168]

Redpill me on Chilean and Argentinean wine. I haven't tasted much, but the bottles from those two countries are among the best I've tasted

[Anonymous No.14020178]

>>14020092
Yes of course after you open a wine which hasn't been killed with a chemical preservative, it will spoil quickly.

Not sure what your point is here. It's like pointing out that a good English cheddar isn't shelf stable like your Velveeta so it must be worse.

[Anonymous No.14020194]

just copped a couple bottles of Decoy sauv blanc
very nice, not too expensive crisp white.
I really love the Duckhorn sauv blanc but can't justify spending $60 on two bottles. Maybe when I'm older.

Similar price point, but very very good: Blindfold white blend from the prisoner. Highly recommend.

[Anonymous No.14020579]

>>14020068
Only manchildren think this.

[Anonymous No.14020709]

>>14020006
I got this unfiltered orange wine from portugal. Dunno how it's going to taste but I assume it's not going to boring

>>14020178
>>14020092
>>14020067
You guys are missing out on the real issue here: quality control/sanitation up to the point of bottling. If you're running a wine making op with surgical tier cleanliness on the gear, the humans, and the fruit, instead of just going by the seat of your pants and blasting everything with chemicals just in case, you're less likely to have a problem if you bottle without sulfur. The odds are still higher than if you killed the wine, but when you're putting that level of effort into it, you're also probably making pretty good quality stuff in every other respect

inb4 a mod deletes this thread because it isn't about panic buying /pol/shit, chicken tenders, or craft beer

>>14020068
t. flyover who selects beverages based on the ever-present risk of getting beaten up for liking the wrong things

[Anonymous No.14021265]

>>14020006
do you fellas have an infograph or something that outlines the different kinds of wines and how they taste in comparison to each other?
I'm a complete retard when it comes to wine beyond of red/white

[Anonymous No.14021272]

>>14020006
Wine is for women and fags

[Anonymous No.14021282]

My lovely grenache, to which I am extremely attached to.

I also got some Pinot Noir from Oregon (Firesteed), some French Burgundy (Maison Louis Latour), and a Californian red blend (Menage a Trois). I finished the French wine yesterday, am currently destroying the Spanish garnacha that I am so fond of.

[Anonymous No.14021308]

I spent my trumpbux on 8 bottles of L. Jadot Grand Cru
Beaujolais is usually the only red I can drink and appreciate and works great as a dinner wine

[Anonymous No.14021309]

>>14020006
WOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.14021874]

>>14021265
Winefolly has a terrible one (the one with like 1000 kinds of wine "organized" in a tree) and some ok ones that are just 2-dimensional axis. Trying to learn about wine without drinking wine isn't going to work btw.

If you're broke and afraid to take chances you'll just end up drinking same-ish clone wines marketed towards people who think just like you do. Take some chances and try weird things. Spend a little more than you're comfortable spending sometimes. It will reward you.

[Anonymous No.14021914]

Drinking now.

14%.

Decent.

[Anonymous No.14022158]

>>14020168
Gato Negro Cab Sauv is a very good Chilean wine

[Anonymous No.14022251]

>>14020178
Maybe I want interesting tertiary qualities that only come from an aged 'dead' wine.

>>14020709
That's the thing though, very very few producers are that clean and sort fruit that meticulously to be able to get away with no sulphur. Don't get me wrong, I like the funk and slight volatility you often get our of no added sulphites, but often they just can't age well. I like bottle variation too, but not when I might buy a bottle that's straight vinegar.

Nice orange btw, I haven't ever seen one from Portugal before.

[Anonymous No.14022361]

>>14021265
Wine Folly can be a good resource for wine education for the absolute beginner, especially if you're a Burger and/or like Burger wines.

[Anonymous No.14022371]

>>14021309
With all those awards, they'd have to be good!

[Anonymous No.14022387]

>>14021308
Which grand cru?

Honestly next time I would suggest buying a wine from a smaller producer from a lesser site. The site will obviously have lower potential, but the more careful and attentive work by the vigneron will probably make a better wine overall.

[Anonymous No.14022412]

>>14022251
It exceeded my expectations, which admittedly were pretty low because it has an animal on the label. I have only had one orange wine before this and it was from somewhere in eastern europe. I'd probably buy this again.

[Anonymous No.14022462]

>>14022371
really the best $10/magnum wine I've found

[Anonymous No.14023569]

>>14022412
Yeah, I really don't know who those sort of labels are supposed to appeal to. I see them all the time, sort of sleek design but no substance.

[Anonymous No.14023601]

>>14022462
Are cheap magnums a thing in the US?

[Anonymous No.14023660]

>>14021309
Hahaha comedy gold

[Anonymous No.14023720]

>>14022361
>burger wines
>judgement of Paris
ok bub

[Anonymous No.14023729]

>>14020067
of course it will age - wine is a colloid of increasingly intertwining bits and acids that change in potency over time and flavors, which tone down over time - its not bugs cooking it slowly

[Anonymous No.14023803]

>>14023720
What?

[Anonymous No.14023968]

Any recommendations for a Ribera del Duero?
I gifted someone a few months ago a 2012 Matarromera, we tried some and we liked it quite a lot. The only problem is that it's expensive as all hell. Is there any cheaper alternative or should I consider it as only a special event drink?

[Anonymous No.14023974]

>>14020006
i bought some mad dog recently, banana red, as always, what glass would you recommend i pour it in?

[Anonymous No.14023981]

>>14023974
One of these, definitely.

[Anonymous No.14023990]

>>14023968
Rioja is made out of the same grape, but the wines are lighter in body and fruit (more red fruited).

They also seem to be generally cheaper, which should help.

Keep in mind though that I'm not a big Tempranillo drinker, so someone might have a better recommendation.

[Anonymous No.14023995]

Friends, why does wine give me a headache? Particularly white wines, though reds do as well to a lesser extent.

[Anonymous No.14024006]

>>14023995
Because you drink too much of it and don't drink enough water.

[Anonymous No.14024008]

>>14024006
in turns of alcohol consumption I can consume a lot more beer/hard liquor than wine before the headache comes knocking.

[Anonymous No.14024023]

>>14023803
it's our resident flyover that gets gigatriggered when someone mentions that they prefer wines that don't taste like oak chips and mega purple. he doesn't actually like wine at all, and he's afraid of food that doesn't come out of a cardboard box, but he's got very strong opinions based on a wikipedia article someone posted on /pol/ once

[Anonymous No.14024024]

>>14024008
You must be buying some nasty shit then. Consider spending a bit more per bottle.

[Anonymous No.14024032]

>>14024023
I didn't even criticise American wines, I just called them 'Burger' because they're American.

[Anonymous No.14024057]

>>14024032
You talked differently from how an angry, racist, selfpitying, ultranationalistic flyover would talk. That alone made it a personal attack on him

[Anonymous No.14024064]

>>14023981
is there any reason for those existing or is it just a practical joke that spaniards play on the rest of us?

[Anonymous No.14024072]

>>14024064
>Spaniards

[Anonymous No.14024084]

>>14024072
Cataluña es, fue, y siempre será España

[Anonymous No.14024090]

Male wine drinker here. It’s funny buying a good Bordeaux. I usually get asked who I’m buying it for, Wife? Mother? Sister? Surely it can’t be for yourself. Then when I tell it’s for me, I get a shocked look. They recover and decide to ‘play along’ with me. Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about wine.
It’s at this point, if I can be bothered, I go through their shelves and tell them all the ones I’ve tasted and why I like them or not. Which regions I prefer, big up Marlborough, and why I’m not a fan of Californian and 100% prefer Spanish.
Now is when I think they feel bad. Because they always offer me loads of samples. I can usually free taste like 4/5 different ones min on every visit.
Having said that met a really nice man last time through the airport who was giving out Schlumberger samples. We had a great chat. He was awesome.
Now girls at bars when you order a large white find you immediately intriguing. They watch you take a sip. I think they are waiting to see if you make a face. When you look pleased then they have their in to strike up a conversation.
I don’t know a lot of other male wine drinkers but I wish I did. I can only go on so many tasting sessions with girls.

[Anonymous No.14024097]

>>14024084
They're for port, you fool.

[Anonymous No.14024100]

>>14024090
Congratulations on successfully imitating a Reddit post.

[Anonymous No.14024108]

>>14024097
TIL british-portuguese rapebaby wine is also consumed from a porron

[Anonymous No.14024111]

>>14024090
Is this pasta?

[Anonymous No.14024910]

>>14020006
Tried the Brian yet aussie bro?

[Anonymous No.14025858]

>>14024023
>>14024032
>>14024057
im from california
if the reference isnt immediately obvious, perhaps you shouldnt be drinking wine

[Anonymous No.14025907]

>>14020168
Chilean wines tend to be pretty non-interventionalist, since chile has almost none of the pest problems that the rest of the wine-growing world has. That being said, really good chilean wines are hard to get in the states, so you'll mostly find 15-20 dollar blends and chardonnays. Purple Angel and Don Melchor are about the only reliably-great higher end chilean wines you will find in the states.

[Anonymous No.14025953]

I like wine a lot but if I have more than 1 glass I end up pissing like crazy for the rest of the night. I think my kidneys are fucked but I’m not sure

[Anonymous No.14026018]

>>14025858
>im from california
Oh, that explains why you're so butthurt over this. You're the Al Bundy of wine. Your life peaked decades ago, your metabolism slowed, you got fat, you got ugly, and when you're feeling insecure you triumphantly bring up the fact that you scored a touchdown once and you look around for validation... finding none you just lash out angrily

[Anonymous No.14026027]

>>14023990
Thanks, I've tried some Rioja before, iirc it was Beronia. I know that is one of the most popular ones. Was good but I still prefer the stronger aroma of Riberas.
Might get some Rioja if I have the chance next time I go to a store, quarantine is a real bitch right now.
I was also planning on buying some Canasta since sweet wines are basically my guilty pleasure, especially Jerez, but the only way to get it here is online and any delivery is delayed right now.

[Anonymous No.14026029]

>>14026018
>yawns
well, you certainly sound pretty angry, dude
educate me on wine while i pop some Napa Valley corks

[Anonymous No.14026071]

>>14026027
Beronia (like some other riojas) sits on their wines for some time before releasing - more than the regulatory minimum - so they're quite soft comparatively speaking. I believe their current release Gran Reserva is the 2009, for example.

You ever had Condado de Haza? That's an old standby affordable Ribera. If you like aggressive wines though you might even want to consider Priorats.

>>14026029
I can smell the vanilla extract and megapurple from here.

[Anonymous No.14026091]

>>14020006
wine is for faggots

grow a pair of balls and go get yourself real alcohol

[Anonymous No.14026259]

>>14026091
Holy shit dudes this guy is BASED

[Anonymous No.14026284]

>>14026071
Chardonnay that tastes like really buttery toast is actually kind of good with shrimp/seafood though

[Anonymous No.14026294]

>>14026284
>buttery toast
these things are not real. this is all suggestion by the producer's tasting notes. you're being memed.

[Anonymous No.14026302]

>>14026294
Idk tastes like butter to me

[Anonymous No.14026391]

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[Anonymous No.14026411]

>>14020006
Gardet is fairly good taste, although I think their Brut is a bit mediocre. The 2004 vintage is nice on a warm afternoon though.

[Anonymous No.14026424]

>>14026294
even my grandma who doesn't drink wine and only eats well done steak can taste the butter in full malo chard

imagine having worse tastebuds than a 98 year old

[Anonymous No.14026428]

>>14026302
not him but every time I've tried this it tastes like angel food cake, sweetness and all. I get why it's the caymus of chardonnay, but it's really not for me.

The only truly great california chards I've had have all been from sonoma and have been burgundian in style

[Anonymous No.14026750]

>>14026428
What are some non-buttery ones you like?

[Anonymous No.14026775]

>>14026428
I don't trust anything from california pitched as "burgundian", because it's invariably not. there is one guy at one shop I go to who I would trust with that description if he were to say it, which he hasn't. anyone else when they say "burgundian" I assume they mean "the usual cougar juice but with a more pretentious label"

I've had exactly one california PN that could pass for burgundy and it was from nowhere near the napa/sonoma reality distortion field. I don't even remember the name because it was like $90 and I can't find it locally so I wrote it off

[Anonymous No.14026836]

>>14026750
Ridge's Monte Bello and estate chardonnay are fantastic and not even slightly buttery even though it's oaked for a year and change.

>>14026775
Not trying to get into a pissing contest, but there are lots of tiny sebastopol wineries, especially the biodynamic/dry-farmed ones, that sit very close to cru burgundy. Lynmar Estate produces easily the best US pinot and chardonnay I've ever tasted. But as you say, their prices range from 50-150. If you can still find their 2017 pinot noir on the shelf somewhere, I think it's $50, I highly recommend giving it a try.

[Anonymous No.14026837]

Anyone up for a nice glass of cali pinot noir?

[Anonymous No.14026897]

>>14026071
>I can smell the vanilla extract and megapurple from here
enjoy your blog cliches.
ill enjoy the wines.

[Anonymous No.14026970]

I don't alcohol, but have some I was given.
Two bottles of wine: Neropasso Originale Biscardo (2017) and Principe Del Sole Sangiovese (vintage 2013) - both supposedly decent for their price, tho I haven't looked them up, so I wouldn't really know.
Soberano Solera "Spanish brandy" (no date on the bottle/label, but the excise stamp says 2009). It's only 36% vol, tho.
Some kind of XO French cognac ("fine champagne cognac") that I know nothing about except the fact that it should be legit, since the company that presented it to me specializes in fancy packed fancy spirits and drinks and they would not give out crap.
Same with top tier Polish potato vodka in a fancy bottle.
That's all I hold by my bed. Could search my old folks' minibar for anything interesting, but would not want to wake them up right now. Cheerio.

[Anonymous No.14026982]

>>14026836
Nice, thanks. Do you know anything about wines from Santa Ynez or Paso Robles?

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14026989]

>drinking california wine

[Anonymous No.14027067]

>>14026982
Paso Robles is rapidly becoming supersaturated with wineries, but there are still really good ones, and even the mediocre ones are at least priced in the 10-15 range. I'm not a huge fan of Austin Hope or Justin because they taste over-extracted/overripe, but people like to swear that they're the best things coming out of Paso.

Santa Ynez I haven't personally tried in a long time. I've heard it's come a long way from 10 years ago, but it never grabbed my attention enough to make a note of any particular winery/wine.

[Anonymous No.14027109]

Anyone else feel overwhelmed when making a wine choice? I want to be able to get around and test different wines and brands but its impossible to glean any information from the label and most of the time there is little information on the shelf. I just wing it and hope that it ends up alright.

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027123]

>california
>wine

[Anonymous No.14027146]

>>14027109
New World problems.

[Anonymous No.14027162]

>>14027109
This is pretty normal, there's an initial barrier to entry when you're still identifying styles/regions you like. Most people at this stage latch onto a brand like Josh or Decoy, but resist the urge and keep exploring.

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027215]

>california
>wine

[Anonymous No.14027222]

>>14027162
Brand is all you can go by when it comes to American wine. It's like shopping on Wish, but worse

[Anonymous No.14027234]

>>14026897
>enjoy your blog cliches.
oh sorry only the wikipedia mobile link to judgment of paris allowed, right?

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027284]

>california
>wine

[Anonymous No.14027320]

>>14026837
you forgot MUH OAK

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027399]

>california
>wine

[Anonymous No.14027468]

>california
>wine

[Anonymous No.14027528]

>>14027234
i guess if thats all you have, its fine

[Anonymous No.14027539]

>>14027284
>>14027399
>>14027468
now do one of christian moueix
lol omg petrus am i rite?

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027546]

>>14027539

[Anonymous No.14027591]

>>14027546
nice self-portrait

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027604]

>>14027591
>he drinks california "wine"

[Anonymous No.14027625]

>>14027604
whats it like having a cellar full of pepes and bad wine?

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14027651]

>>14027625
I only drink the finest italian wines known to man. Herakles himself would be jealous of my physique and wine selection.

[Anonymous No.14027678]

>>14027651
>uses the greek spelling
ok, VINNIE
you couldn't find your way out of a fucking cannoli
you wouldn't know mulberry street from your dingleberries
fa un culo

[Anonymous No.14027755]

>>14027651
anon we forgive you

[Anonymous No.14027802]

This is now an Austrian wine thread. Was trinken Sie meinen österreichischen Brüdis?

[Anonymous No.14028083]

>>14024910
No, is it any good?

[Anonymous No.14028094]

>>14026411
I really only bought it because the place I work hardly ever stocks house Champagne and I wanted to see why we got it in.

[Anonymous No.14028097]

>>14027546
you forgot one you whiny embarrassed cunt

[Anonymous No.14028106]

>>14027109
Go to a good wine store and ask for advice. That's what they're for.

[Anonymous No.14028115]

>>14020006
I really am enjoying corsican reds. Clos Sulana Rouge was very drinkable. No bite. Nice flavor. Not a flavor bomb or super heavy, very balanced.

[Anonymous No.14028120]

>>14028106
no, theyre there to make sales.
sometimes that includes helping the customer.

[Anonymous No.14028131]

>>14028120
Depends where you go. Obviously all places want to sell you wine, but it's highly unlikely that there's not one bottle you'd be interested in there.

Places that sell cases of Champagne and shit like that often pay staff on commission, but smaller stores with stuff nicely merchandised bottles and larger ranges of wine don't.

[233lbs PURE MUSCLE No.14028232]

FUCK YOU JANNY. WHY YOU BAN ME FOR YOU CALIFORNIA "WINE" DRINKING FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.14028310]

>>14028232
>why was i banned?
probably for soliciting sex outside /soc/
pic related

[Anonymous No.14028325]

>>14028232
is this even english?
the fuck is this?

[Anonymous No.14028330]

>>14028131
are you telling me to curb my cynicism?

[Anonymous No.14028358]

>>14028330
Yes. I work at a small store and we're actually encouraged to find something a little under someone's budget if we can.

Obviously not all places do this (I've noticed other places I shop do though), but it encourages people to come back because they've gotten what they wanted at a lower price.

[Anonymous No.14028654]

>>14027802
BASED

[Anonymous No.14028694]

>>14020006
my father was on a visit in hungary recently and brought back some mighty fine slovak and hungarian moscatel bottles; tastes like summer in a bottle; if you like sweet wines, i highly recommend looking into wines from there

[Anonymous No.14028716]

>>14028694
I don't know if I've ever drank any Tokaji or any Slovak/Hungarian wine, but as I love sweet wines, I'm very keen to try them. I'm sure their dry wines would be an adventure too.

[BASED GIGA SMEGMA++++MINOR KAF(...) No.14029062]

>>14028716
fucking lol ok centuries of wine making are utterly irrelevant ok i know w right?!

[Anonymous No.14029741]

>>14028694
I stopped buying Hungarian wines after the country got taken over by nazis. Funny how German wines are more socially responsible than Hungarian these days, isn't it? Just need to get a PhD in German to figure out the labels...

[Anonymous No.14030160]

>>14023995
Allergy possibly, try taking some antihistamine before drinking

[Anonymous No.14030261]

>>14020006
>I FREAKING LOVE WINE, DUDE! IT'S SUCH A CLASSY DRINK FOR CLASSY INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS US!

[Anonymous No.14030269]

>>14030261
adorable, the soyposter found the wine thread

[Anonymous No.14030316]

>>14029741
>I stopped buying Hungarian wines after the country got taken over by nazis
Why would you blanket boycott of a country when only 50% of the country voted for Orban?

Also at least the Germans put the varietal of the wine on their label, can't be said for the majority of other European wines.

[Anonymous No.14030450]

>>14030269
>adorable, the soyposter found the wine thread

[Anonymous No.14030932]

>>14027802
Really want to give Tschida wines a go. I've heard very good things.

Had this months back and bought another immediately. Don't remember a lot about how it tasted but it was really supple and seductive; the wine of the night.

[Anonymous No.14031064]

>>14027802
What is it? Blaufrankisch rose? St Laurent rose?

[Anonymous No.14031099]

>>14029741
protip: if a lable says GG, it's fully dry. The best and some of the most expensive rieslings are GG, although some of the premium late harvests get very expensive too.
spatsburgunder is pinot noir
liebfraumilcht is a sweet white blend
dornfelder is similar to pinot, but with a much more grenachey palate. Comes in sweet and dry styles.
most of the other grapes are niche and you'll almost never find them outside of Germany

[Anonymous No.14031332]

>>14027802
Favorite Austrian I've tried was definitely a Weingut Knoll Ried Loibenberg GV smaragd. Super interesting wine.

[Anonymous No.14031346]

>>14028716
Tokaji is the absolute pinnacle of (non-fortified) dessert wine imo, especially with a bit of bottle age on it.

[Anonymous No.14031675]

Any winemakers here? I'd like to understand something. Shitty wine often has a ton of sugar added, to the point where it tastes bad. Why can't they add a lot of acid to balance things out? Or is this something they do? Why can I often taste "unbalanced sugar" but not "unbalanced acidity"?

When I make lemonade at home it's really not all that hard to get the balance right, is there some legal or technical reason why companies making shit wine (like california stuff or aussie stuff) can't just dump some extra acid powder in the vat until it's drinkable?

[Anonymous No.14031736]

>>14031675
Because the people who make 'bad' wine are actually making wine very meticulously designed to sell in massive quantities to people who know nothing about wine. Those people, generally, like sweet drinks, so they make their wine sweet. There's actually a HUGE amount of science involved in making that wine, their goal is just not the same as yours in terms of what a 'good' bottle of wine is.

[Anonymous No.14031797]

>>14031736
well done
hence
>>14021309

[Anonymous No.14031886]

Is it bad to chill red wine? I don't like the taste of room temperature alcohol and I don't have the expertise to detect the subtleties of a wine

[Anonymous No.14031917]

>>14031736
Damm. So you're saying that the government should scan instagram for pictures of people drinking shit wine, round them all up and sterilize them, and we could fix bad wine in one generation? I could get behind this.

[Anonymous No.14031945]

I'm gonna say it.
>Ahem

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[Anonymous No.14032010]

>>14031886
Room temp is too warm for almost any wine. Light-bodied red wines should be served slightly chilled, medium to full reds should be 'cellar temperature' which is about 13-15C.

[Anonymous No.14032017]

>>14030261
faggot

[Anonymous No.14032042]

I poured some yeast into a gallon of grape juice and stuck an airlock on top, am I welcome here?

[Anonymous No.14032172]

>>14032042
Of course you are welcome, weary apu poster.
Always consider checking out how other, more experienced people do what you are interested in, before investing anything into that thing.
This applies not only to winemaking, but to everything else. : )

[Anonymous No.14032198]

>>14031064
Cabernet franc

[Anonymous No.14032217]

>>14031099
GG is großes Gewächs which just means German Grand cru.

Trocken is the word you want for dry

[Anonymous No.14032246]

>>14032010
oh well i keep them in the fridge until i finish them

i heard that it's also not a good thing to drink red wine as soon as you open it and that you need to let it breathe first
is that something you should always do?

[Anonymous No.14032365]

>>14032246
You'll know it if you open a bottle that smells kinda "off" at first and it improves in the next hour without it being because of your drunkenness. Usually "barnyard" or "sulfur" or "musty" type aromas but sometimes what they call volatile acidity which is kinda like a whiff of vinegar.

The whole point is for it to be more enjoyable, if you like the way it tastes right away, then it's just hocus pocus.

[Anonymous No.14032731]

I'm not a wine person, but I always wondered how aldi can sell bottles of wine for $2.
Is there even any alcohol in it, what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.14032948]

>>14032731
I can buy a 96oz grape juice for $3.09

750ml is 25oz, aka about $1.50 worth of juice. Yeast is cheap. What's the mystery?

[Anonymous No.14033796]

>>14028083
Really good funky style, made by dredge and holyman honestly the 2 best small producers in tassie. Try some dr. edge by dredge too

[Anonymous No.14033813]

>>14031675
They can add citric acid

[(You) No.14034018]

>>14032042
no.
you have to go to /diy/

[Anonymous No.14034035]

Anyone else love the taste of mega purple in your fancy california pinot noir??

[Anonymous No.14034072]

>>14034018
:(

[Anonymous No.14034131]

>>14032217
correct, but legally all wines classified as GG must be trocken (less than 10g/l residual sweetness

>Issues in regard to Grosse Gewächse about which growers should be thinking (and consumers, too, be aware) include:

>1) Insisting on legal Trockenheit invites (and indeed has repeatedly engendered) the following:

>a. Rieslings "wrestled" to below 10 grams of residual sugar by yeasting, warming, blending, and so on that would have tasted better (and, in particular, better balanced) had they not been wrestled via yeasting, etc.*

>b. Dearth of Rieslings in the (roughly) 10–13 grams of residual sugar range (envisioned and enshrined, incidentally, in the Rheingau "Erste Gewächse"—the only legally protected category of its sort), a range that correspond to or correlated with…

>i. the behavior of many Riesling musts when left to their own devices.

>ii. a notably high percentage of the great "dry" wines from the late-19th-to-early-20th-century heyday of German Riesling, to which those who thought up Grosses Gewächs appeal in establishing the category.**

>iii. a level of hidden sweetness that proves uncannily food-friendly and takes Riesling places where frankly most of the world's utterly dry wines offer no synergy.***

Although the person in this article argues that because of the intensity of GG wines, the hard limit on residual should be removed or at least lessened.

https://www.larscarlberg.com/whats-the-matter-with-grosses-gewachs/

[Anonymous No.14034137]

>>14034035
Are you guys all shitpost addicts or something? The vast majority of shitposting in this thread is you guys shadowboxing.

[Anonymous No.14034141]

>>14020006
What's /wine/'s opinion on Texan wine?

[Anonymous No.14034146]

>>14034141
as a Texan, I find it pretty low-tier and overpriced. I like South American wines

[Anonymous No.14034148]

>>14034141
Well, didn't read the label on the image, google said it was texan. Pls no bulli

[Anonymous No.14034211]

Just got into red wine it's nice. Tried some Chianti classico, some barolo and some bordeux wine a friend gave me. Just gonna keep buying and trying

[Anonymous No.14034252]

>>14034131
I completely agree with that article. I find it absolutely silly that sweet wines can't be labeled with GG despite being from a Grosse Lage.

I'm not massive on government regulation of wine, but this industry regulation has sure come up with some odd outcomes.

[Anonymous No.14034259]

>>14034211
Why not try white, orange and rose too?

[Anonymous No.14035224]

>>14034141
My neighborhood restaurant has some because one of the owners is from texas. I’m pretty sure it’s a joke because the price is stupid

[Anonymous No.14035258]

Is there a wine for everyone?
I feel like I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.14035287]

>>14035258
Why do people act like they need to memorize a bunch of rituals and trivia before being allowed to drink wine? Hollywood has fried people’s brains.

[Anonymous No.14035417]

I've gotten somewhat hooked by frizzante wines. I like them because they don't have the sometimes aggressive gassy profile of spumantes, but they still bring that bit of zing.
They're also quite cheap, since there's somewhat of a stigma against them (as being low-quality), which makes boozing on a budget easier.

[Anonymous No.14035431]

>>14035417
I’m generally not into Italian bubbles in any way whatsoever but I enjoy popping a “still” wine and finding a bit of gas

[Anonymous No.14035470]

>>14035287
That ain't what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.14035522]

>>14035258
Some people have very underdeveloped palates, and thus won't like wine.

That being said if you're at least slightly adventurous there's something for you. Wine can be sweet or dry, savoury or fruity, light or full bodied, tart or smooth.

There's a lot of possibilities with wine as there are with beer and spirits.

[Anonymous No.14035527]

>>14035417
Do you have any examples? I enjoy pet nats sometimes, but I find most frizzante wines from Italy to be Prosecco, which seldom excites me.

[Anonymous No.14036405]

Bought a few of these, very nice. Still very much alive. Only €8.

[Anonymous No.14036430]

Western wine?
No thanks, I'd rather have a nice cup of Choya Sake to go with my Takoyaki.
Itadakimasu!

[Anonymous No.14036439]

>>14035258
The people who I have spoken to who ACTUALLY know wine, not just pretentious douches that don't own a single bottle have told me the following:
Everyone likes what they like. There is nothing else to it. People who say otherwise are pretenders.

[Anonymous No.14036464]

>>14020006
Bought to go buy a bunch of lucky duck or oak leaf, the cheapest wines at walmart ($3.97/$2.97 respectively lmao).
I don't give a fuck I just want some wine type swill cause I'm int he mood. Also I'm poor.

[Anonymous No.14036471]

>>14036439
What do you like?

[Anonymous No.14036525]

>>14036471
Berries.
Literally just berries smeared across my face and genitals.
Don't care if they're edible or poisonous or whatever.

[Anonymous No.14036607]

>>14036525
How about a nice pernand-vergelesses?

[Anonymous No.14036740]

>>14027109

use Vivino

[Anonymous No.14037479]

>>14036607
Nah, literally raw berries from random bushes.

[(You) No.14037487]

>>14036439
this isnt really true.
people that know wine leave the door open for people who dont by saying 'like what you like'
there are really strong individual flavors and characteristics that some people either really do or dont like - thats real. for example - even many of the best sauvignon blancs ive tried taste like cat piss to me. some people like that flavor.though. but, like most things, there is in fact objectively better.

[Anonymous No.14037507]

>>14037487
>there are really strong individual flavors and characteristics that some people either really do or dont like
You just said "you like what you like", but with extra words.
Not gonna lie, coming off as a bit pretentious right now anon.
Yeah, 2 dollar super market wine is not generally gonna be as good as a 50 dollar bottle, nobody debates that.

[Anonymous No.14037537]

i'm interested in white port, can someone spoonfeed me?

[Anonymous No.14037577]

>>14037537
I presume you'd provide the bottle and place to do it?
I might be interested are you on craigslist?

[Anonymous No.14037595]

>>14037479
Based and berry pilled.

[Anonymous No.14037613]

>>14037577
how can i provide the bottle if i don't even know which white port to buy?

[Anonymous No.14037659]

>>14037537
port just means fortified
most ports are fortified red blends
some ports are fortified white blends
they even have rose port, which is awful

white port by itself tends to be drier than red port, and for some reason reminds me of undersweetened cheesecake as far as flavor goes. For best results, mix a 3-4 oz pour with 3/4 ounce of lemon juice

[Anonymous No.14037989]

>>14037659
Most white ports are actually sweet..

It's just that most big producers make a dry white port, but most serious white port producers it is sweet or at the least off dry and then in a range of ages. E.g. kopke , c.d Silva, pocas, JH andreson

Kopke is king imho 10,20,30 yo

[Anonymous No.14038031]

>>14037613
Well, that's not really my problem, I am not gonna drink it, just spoon feed it to you, right?
If I have to drink some, it's gonna be extra and nothing sexual.

[Anonymous No.14038067]

>>14037989
thanks bro

[(You) No.14038296]

>>14037507
no i didnt say that
and i could give a fuck if some two dollar wine drinker thinks im pretentious.

what happened to the three bottle a night wine drinker thread?

[Anonymous No.14038468]

>>14038296
Anon, you may have missed the memo, but drinking wine doesn't mean you are required to LARP as snobby.
You literally said "Some people like things that others don't" in a more pretentious fashion, which really boils down to "people like what they like".
And that is not even simplifying it, but merely abbreviating.
Chill the fuck out.

[(You) No.14038771]

>>14038468
nope, i didnt.

[Anonymous No.14038883]

>>14038296
>i could give a fuck

[Anonymous No.14038918]

As we can see ITT, wine talk automatically makes a lot of people feel insecure by default. It's important to put them at ease by using excess vulgarity and generally carrying yourself like a manchild

[(You) No.14038936]

>>14038918
ahh, the lost art of projection

[Anonymous No.14038968]

>>14038936
I've been watching you bicker over someone mistyping "what you like" for the last 5 hours. You can try to argue that you're not feeling extremely uncultured now but I won't believe anything you say

[Anonymous No.14039027]

>>14038968
More like arguing meaningless semantics while even admitting the point.
I didn't mistype anything.

[(You) No.14039073]

>>14038968
i didnt even notice any typos and couldnt care

get yourself some reading skills - i said there are some real idiosyncracies that some people have - for example i think a lot of sauvignon blancs taste like cat piss - but i can tell when one is better than another even with pissy thiols.

thats not at all 'each to their own'

you can return to your bickering now.

[Anonymous No.14039088]

>>14020006
i've spent $600 on wine deliveries since quarantine started soooooo i need to chill

[Anonymous No.14039405]

>>14039088
BASED

[Anonymous No.14039612]

>>14037507
>nobody debates that
There are actually tons of morons who are desperate to discredit more expensive wine due to sour grapes and to feel smug and superior.

[Anonymous No.14039617]

>>14037537
I usually just use it for portonics. Much better than gin and tonics imo.

[Anonymous No.14039622]

>>14039088
Good stuff or are you just an alchie?

[Anonymous No.14039633]

>>14038918
Action Bronson is cringe

[Anonymous No.14040185]

>>14039622
Why not both?

[Anonymous No.14040316]

What are some producers to look for as a good introduction to French reds?
Nothing too cheap but nothing crazy like $100+.
How are Cru Bourgeois classified winemakers?

[Anonymous No.14040528]

>>14039633
No he is BASED because he swears and has tattoos
Acting like an adult is for soy cucks who watch BLACKED unlike me

[Anonymous No.14040649]

>>14040528
based

[Anonymous No.14040749]

>>14039088
I've only spent about $90 on wine since quarantine because half the quarantine was spent having coronavirus and drinking alcohol made me feel like I was having a heart attack for about a month straight

[Anonymous No.14040813]

Why are wines outside Europe usually made with only one variety of grape?

[Anonymous No.14040876]

>>14040813
They're not, but more on this later. The first "respectable" wines to make a splash internationally were sold under varietal names because at the time those regions had no name recognition and were generally associated with low quality wines made with bulk mystery grapes.

Once they had made an impression, there remained a perception that wine from those areas that had the kind of grape written on the label were higher quality, whether true or not. The varietal became the brand, it's gotten so ridiculous that big companies make "pinot noir" that is doctored up to taste more like syrah because it turns out a lot of people don't ACTUALLY like pinot noir, they like the IMAGE of pinot noir.

The fact is American wine is the wild west, not unlike China's economic miracle. Yes there are amazing wines from the US, much like how you can obtain amazing high tech from China, but it's buyer beware. You literally have to memorize the name and address of each good producer. You can't trust region names, AVAs, etc. Nothing is safe. Even the varietal name tells you nothing because significant amounts of blending are allowed and high tech "grape concentrates" like mega purple allow wine makers to only do a 0.5% addition by volume which behaves more like a 50% blend of something else.

[Anonymous No.14040899]

>>14039612
Oh, I never said there are no shitty 50 dollar bottles, there absolutely are.
How could there not be.
If you think just because you spend money it guarantees you quality, you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.14040904]

>>14020006
imagine drinking grape vinegar and thinking you're cultured

[Anonymous No.14040906]

>>14040904
imagine being a beer drinking pussy ass bitch lmao nice tits brother

[Anonymous No.14040912]

>>14040876
Thanks anon, that's interesting

[Anonymous No.14040913]

>>14040906
imagine being this seething when someone insults your big boy juice

[Anonymous No.14040926]

>>14040913
can't hear you baby, dick my cock is too deep down your throat fucking faggot lmaooo

[Anonymous No.14040927]

>>14040899
Your unwillingness to use your mouth when you drink isn't an excuse to be bad with money. I can go down to Hunt's Point and pick up a toothless crack whore for $20 and even if I pay her $2000 it won't make her look like Spitzer's call girl.

The fact is JJ Prum sells for more than Mommy's Time Out because JJ Prum makes better wine than Mommy's Time Out, not the other way around.

>>14040904
(You)

[Anonymous No.14040936]

>>14040926
imagine thinking hearing is the same as reading
>wine '''connoisseur''''

[Anonymous No.14040940]

>california wine

[Anonymous No.14040943]

>>14040927
You are willfully missing the point.
Answer the following:
If you pay 50 dollars for a bottle of wine, are you guaranteed something good?
No.
If you spend 10 dollars are you guaranteed something mediocre? No.

You even made the point about over paying the crack whore. That supports my argument, you see that, right?
You'd have to be retarded to state that, but I can tell you are just playing devils advocate for the fun of it and you don't actually think that.
Right?

[Anonymous No.14040950]

Y'all are such sad LARPers.
Half of you have anime porn open one tab over.

[Anonymous No.14040958]

>>14040943
1. Nothing in life is guaranteed.
2. I can find a drinkable bottle for $10 if my life depends o it, but I can't find $10 bottles that go well with every kind of food I eat unless I limit myself to only one kind of food, which I imagine wouldn't be so hard for someone who's scared to eat anything but hamburgers and pizza, but some of us actually like real food

[Anonymous No.14040962]

>>14040950
>implying people cant make there own decisions. Are you a janny you fruit cake fuck?? Step up. 233lbs

[Anonymous No.14041133]

are automotive wines any good?

[Anonymous No.14041212]

Anyone have any rhone valley picks for someone craving chateuneuff, but wanting something cheaper? Should I just get something from a neighboring cru?

[Anonymous No.14041219]

>>14041212
Chateaneuf is gross dude. If you like to be smashed in the face with an oak 2x4 just buy some argie shit and save your dough.

[Anonymous No.14041317]

>>14040950
Yeah and? That just shows we like the finer things in life.
Normies are plebs, that jack off to regular porn and they don't know wine.

[Anonymous No.14041396]

>>14040185
Possible, but you'd have to be rich.

[Anonymous No.14041459]

>>14040316
Loire
>Domaine de la Chevalrie
>Bernard Baudry
>Arnaud Lambert

Burgundy [obviously buy their wines from lesser sites]
>Sylvian Pataille
>Bruno Clair
>Domaine Berthaut

Beaujolais [gaining in price but still total steals]
>Jean Foillard
>Guy Breton
>Marcel Lapierre
>Yann Bertrand

Jura [hard to find producers under $100 these days]
>Domaine Roulot

Bordeaux
>Chateau Biac

Northern Rhone
>Herve Souhaut

Southern Rhone
>Chateau de Tours

Provence
>L'Anglore

South West France
>Chateau de Brin
>Domaine Plageoles

All in all I would suggest wines from Beaujolais, the Loire and South West France for good value.

[Anonymous No.14041483]

>>14041219
The best Chateauneuf doesn't see new small format oak or ridiculous extraction. Drink something not made for Americans for a change.

[Anonymous No.14041491]

>>14041459
patrician taste, how did you get on /ck/, leave while you still can

[Anonymous No.14041501]

>>14041459
Rolet, not Roulot lmao.

Roulot specialises in white Burgundy and it's mad expensive for the most part.

[Anonymous No.14041505]

>>14041491
Thanks senpai. I love French wine.

What do you like to drink?

[Anonymous No.14041544]

>>14041212
I love CDP that doesn't taste like CDP

[Anonymous No.14041545]

>>14041459
>[obviously buy their wines from lesser sites]
What?

[Anonymous No.14041573]

Is anyone a member of Kermit Lynch's wine club? I was thinking about joining - I've never disliked anything that he has imported.

[Anonymous No.14041587]

>>14041545
If you buy premier cru or grand cru red Burgundy, it's sure as hell not going to be under $100 for the most part.

[Anonymous No.14041670]

>>14041505
French wine, I like french wine

I'll drink wine from anywhere if someone else is buying, but if I'm buying it's about
>40% french
>20% eye-talian
>10% spanish
>30% assorted "other" (german, portuguese, greek, georgian, american, etc)

I want to try a Japanese wine but the store that got some is now out of reach because of lockdown

[Anonymous No.14041740]

>>14041670
For me it's:
>50% French
>20% Australian
>10% German
>10% Italian
>10% everything else

Yeah there's this Japanese cafe that stocks Japanese wine that I like going to, but I always go there by myself so I never order a bottle. Good pricing, but I have no idea if it's any good.

[Anonymous No.14041755]

>>14041740
The bottle I was looking for was like $40 retail (for reference guy breton's morgon is about the same price in this area), but the japanese wine is some weird japanese varietal I've never heard of

I'm assuming it's probably going to drink like some foxy white "indigenous varietal" that probably goes for about $4 if you buy it from the farmhouse or $40 from a hipster wine shop in a rich neighborhood

But who knows maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, mostly it's just curiosity for me

[Anonymous No.14041758]

>>14041219
OK any picks from Malbec-istan?

[Anonymous No.14041806]

>>14041212
There's some very good vacqueyras out there. Montirius for instance.

[Anonymous No.14041845]

>>14041806
Vacqueyras tastes like wine though. What anon probably wants is just a snoot full of lumberyard and alcohol vapors

[Anonymous No.14041963]

Why is Beaujolais so cheap in comparison to Burgundy?

[Anonymous No.14042001]

>>14041963
There is much more of it.

[Anonymous No.14042023]

>>14041845
Gigondas it is then!

[Anonymous No.14042122]

>>14041963
It's less popular.

[Anonymous No.14042487]

>>14041963
Supply & Demand. There is more demand for burgundy. It has nothing to do with the quality of the grapes, which is why I think there are some great values to be had with Beaujolais. I've had $45 bottles of Cru Beaujolais that will knock the socks off some $100 bottles of burgundy.

[Anonymous No.14042501]

>>14042487
Yeah and those were $25 bottles 2 years ago until they got memed into the stratosphere. Pretty soon they're going to be $60 bottles and every tom daisuke and zhang is going to be hoarding bojo cru and the region will start shitting out trash to meet demand

[Anonymous No.14042540]

>>14042501
Yeah I don't really think so though. Bojo doesn't really age gracefully due to the lack of tannin, so I don't think you'll see chinamen hoarding this crap like they do Burg and Bordeaux. Unless they just don't understand the grape (which is also likely). God I hate the chinks they are so tacky and ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.14042573]

>>14042540
Morgon ages fine. I hate wh*teoids so I guess we can agree to disagree.

[Anonymous No.14042581]

>>14042573
I agree morgon and maybe a couple other cru examples (I've had an aged morgon and could be fooled it was a burg) but have had others that have been pretty dead after 5 - 10 years.

[Anonymous No.14042608]

>>14041212
Cahors if you're just looking for rich dark fruit
Otherwise Gigondas for equivalent quality at a cheaper price. Anything that says V V is old-vine

[Anonymous No.14042614]

>>14041963
Gamay is easier to grow, the region itself is larger and less subject to wine law fuckery.

Also burgundy is conspicuous consumption for the old rich, whereas bordeaux is for young-money chinese

[(YOU) No.14043698]

>>14040876
this is only minorly true and is really more of a caveat emptor about bad players.

there is a lot of work done by good wine makers out there to ensure quality and reputation and value. No one calls a cab a cab unless it is a cab. every thing else is called a RED or a blend. or a WHITE and not a pinot grigio etc. many us/cali wine makers will tell you the blend percentages and AVAs have rules and laws which govern the use of their names on labels.

winemakers tend to be blenders (historically french negociants were blenders) but there are many that have an interest and affection for singular grapes from singular places which gives rise to the minimal/terroir approach of a single varietal.

[Anonymous No.14043920]

>>14043698
of course there are good wines in california but the point is you have to know EXACTLY who they are

california "cab" is actually allowed to be blended, the idea that "a cab is a cab is a cab" is crazy, where are you getting this?

lastly, mega purple is in widespread use, even with supposedly "fancy" wineries. it may not be as obvious as with the latest orin swift meme wine but it's technically "grapes" so people are allowed to do whatever they want

[(YOU) No.14044128]

>>14043920
>allowed
no shit i said people blend, but most blenders label appropriately, as i clearly said already. did i mention i said that already?

there is much more quality in cali wines than your fear-mongering represents.

[Anonymous No.14044147]

>>14044128
what "fear mongering"? I'm not afraid of california wine and I'm not suggesting anyone else should be. some people like to be surprised 100% of the time, are you saying that's bad? I like surprises too. within reason, so I don't buy california wine much. but if I'm in the mood to fuck around, sure, why not? it's not like it contains poison. it's just wine even if it's wine I don't enjoy.

"innovation", isn't that always the argument for the total lack of standards?

[(YOU) No.14044154]

>>14044147
>innovation
?
what wine blog are you even arguing with?

[Anonymous No.14044182]

>>14044154
oh, you're the guy who thinks everything is either the judgment of paris mobile wiki site or one specific blogger he got in an internet fight with

[Anonymous No.14045743]

>>14044182
if by that you mean im the guy you illiterates keep tryin to shoehorn words into my posts that arent there - then yeah im that guy

[Anonymous No.14046853]

Anyone here drank something by badenhorst?

[Anonymous No.14046868]

>>14045743
yeah no, you've contradicted yourself multiple times because you're anonymous and you think I can't tell it's you. blends aren't blends, oh but only BAD blends are blends, also many honest wine makers exist therefore fraud isn't real.

see the problem with associating yourself with criminals and scammers is that being "one of the good ones" only barely counts in internet arguments, and not for much. people who aren't in the wine industry don't have the time or the money to buy one bottle of every single wine made in california so they can make their own private database of which ones are ok and which aren't . even rich people can't do that, that's why 100-point wine rating mags are all the rage for california wine drinkers. because you need someone to tell you what's good out there, it's not enough to trust the words, because nothing stops someone from lying.

tl;dr california is the 4chan of wine

[Anonymous No.14046940]

>>14041963
Because its pretty much a ready to drink red that's not hard to produce and is a lot less intense then most reds so all the Robert Parker Jr. wannabes don't bother with the region. Beaujolais Crus are also very affordable solid medium bodied fruity reds.

[Anonymous No.14046982]

>>14046940
My local supermarket had Duboeufs Moulin-a-Vent on sale for most of the time. The 2015 was absolutely terrific, for just €10 a bottle, I grabbed most of them. Sadly the 2017 now on offer isn't nearly as good, much thinner.

[Anonymous No.14046991]

>>14046982
I had no idea duboeuf offered anything other than nouveau. Maybe I've seen it and I just automatically ignored it because I thought it was something else

[Anonymous No.14047008]

>>14046991
Duboeuf is the biggest producer in beaujolais, they make everything

[Anonymous No.14047769]

>>14046868
lol i never said that nor contradicted myself
its a waste bothering with you

[Anonymous No.14047814]

>>14047769
Chill out and drink some wine broh

[Anonymous No.14048014]

>>14039088

based
I've spent $500

[Anonymous No.14048032]

Portuguese = cheap and based
Strongly recomend for everyday wine

[Anonymous No.14048115]

Am a dirty pleb for loving this stuff? It's not going to change whether or not I drink it, but all my friends only drink local cheap beer or liquor and I don't know any other wine drinkers.

[Anonymous No.14048121]

>>14048115
Yes, but it's better to be a dirty pleb than to be pretentious and pretend to like something you don't like in order to impress the internet.

[Anonymous No.14048176]

>>14048115
To each his own. Personally that stuff doesn't even taste like wine to me but clearly they've developed this formula and it appeals to millions of drinkers otherwise they wouldn't sell as many bottles as they do,

[Anonymous No.14048223]

Many people still believe that if wine tastes like wood, it must be good.

[Anonymous No.14048808]

I have recently acquired a taste for wine, am a newfag. pls post best wines.

[Anonymous No.14048831]

>>14048808
what do you like
>best wine
best wine I've ever had is the 2010 Chateau Pontet-Canet, but it's also 200-300 dollars.

[Anonymous No.14048839]

>>14048831
red wines. the not so acidic and bitter stuff. but not very sweet either.

[Anonymous No.14048854]

>>14048839
Zinfandel/Primitivo
Montepulciano
Malbec with a cork enclosure (the screwcap ones are lighter and higher in acid, meant as table wines for rich food)
Bonarda
Touriga Nacional/any portuguese red blend in the 10-20 range
Mencia
Grenache

[Anonymous No.14048951]

>>14048854
thank you anon

[Anonymous No.14048982]

>>14048839
Rioja

[Anonymous No.14049063]

>>14039088
>>14048014
BVLLS

[Anonymous No.14049073]

>>14048121
>>14048115
Sure drink what you like, but the reason it’s pleb is because you can get better wines at the same price point
Costco is my go-to for cheap French swill

[Anonymous No.14050349]

>>14049073
>Costco
A man can dream. But I live in a country where anything above roughly 5.2% is sold by the nationally run liquor store. So not only is our selection limited (though getting better) the prices are ridiculous compared to most places in the States.

[Anonymous No.14050617]

>>14050349
Are you in Europe or South America?

[Anonymous No.14050690]

>>14048032
This is the best rose I've ever had and it was 7.99$

[Anonymous No.14050968]

>tfw Ontario prices
Any good reds I can get on the cheap at the LCBO. I'm new to this shit but I seem to like stuff that is high in tannins and is dry.

[Anonymous No.14051000]

>>14050617
Europe. Luckily there's apparently a service that delivers beer and wine to the home from Germany for a fraction of the price. I just got to ask my father-in-law for the name.

[Anonymous No.14051140]

>>14026091
based

[Anonymous No.14051336]

>>14026982
hey not sure if you're coming back to this thread or not but i live in paso. lot of hills offers a lot of micro climates so we have a nice variety of grapes. the city is kind of small-town so a lot of retirees investments in small wineries. good variety but not winning lots of awards as far as quality. justin is the biggest brand here and they're "big wine". frankly i wouldn't buy our wine from outside of the region unless you're curious about a few of our brands but coming here and seeing the city and visiting the tasting rooms is a really great experience. they say central coast is "up and coming" but i don't ever see it being competitive with napa/sonoma.

[(You) No.14051447]

>>14051336
paso gets a lot of press and has a lot of marketing behind it
i know some napa winemakers reaching into the area

[Anonymous No.14051449]

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[Anonymous No.14051460]

>spent all of my pandemic bux on wine

worth it
didn't even lose my job lmao

[Anonymous No.14051464]

>>14051336
>tfw I'm drinking central coast wine right now

you're correct with it probably not competing with napa/somona anytime soon, but it's really the most underrated region in California and there's a lot of variety available for the value

[(You) No.14051675]

>>14051449
cope, cuk

[Anonymous No.14052020]

have a bunch of these right now...
Otherwise have so pretty good Bourgogne, a very cheap and good Passetougrain from Irancy.
Steady supply of Graves from a family bulk order
Also have a magnum of Arbois wine, waiting for the right occasion

[Anonymous No.14052025]

>>14051675
Cope with what? Paying 40 bucks for a bottle of wine made from koolaid?? Fuck off. Heres your (you)

[(You) No.14052040]

>>14052025
hey there's toilet paper stuck to the traders joe's receipt stuck to your shoe

[Anonymous No.14052105]

What's everyones favorite drinkable but used for cooking wine? I don't know shit about wine but I just try not to buy the low tier shit. I mean maybe what I buy is low tier shit but I don't know, I'm just saying I try not to buy the 5-9 dollar bottles.

I like Dreaming Tree's wines reds and whites but like their Red Suav most. It's great for cooking. Should I try something else?

[Anonymous No.14052624]

>>14052105
More expensive doesn't necessarily mean better
what you cook with doesn't matter too much either, a cheap bottle is perfectly fine in most cases
but if you wish to match wine with the food you should always serve wine atleast one tier higher than you used in your food

[Anonymous No.14052639]

>>14052105
I cook with no-name spanish or southern italian wines

Las Rocas was my go-to for a while until it went up in price

[Anonymous No.14052701]

>>14052020
I really like that die cut label. I've never had a wine from that appellation, really been enjoying southern Rhone wines lately.

Could you invite me over for the Arbois magnum? :3

[Anonymous No.14052706]

>>14052105
Probably just a bottle of Pinot Grigio. It's often neutral and pretty boring but it's still drinkable and has the acidity I need for cooking.

[Anonymous No.14052767]

>>14020068
When exposed to something he does not have experience with, the poorfag will cope by calling it 'gay' or 'for women.'

[Anonymous No.14052778]

>>14031675
>shit wine from Australia/California
Funny way of saying 'good wine that my palate, which is a bitch's palate, cannot handle'

[Anonymous No.14052798]

>>14039088
Un-based and womanpilled
Restrain yourself

[Anonymous No.14052918]

>>14052798
>implying it's women flooding garagiste with orders for brett-damaged spontaneous fermentation kvevri orange wines made by war refugee oaxacan-ainu half-breed lesbian traps from three pre-phylloxera rotgipfler vines in the gaza strip

Women just buy whatever critter shit is on sale at costco, incel

[Anonymous No.14053841]

>>14052798
The virgin cringeoid v the chad hedonist

[Anonymous No.14054094]

>>14052918
Wife bought absolute shit wine, she couldn't even finish a glass. Asked her why she bought it, she says she doesn't know.

Ok no biggie right, I've made impulse buys too.

>Literally buys the same fuckin bottle 3 weeks later.

Almost lost it bros

[Anonymous No.14054314]

>>14052701
Only if you bring comté and sausages
Pic is local wine from the Drôme region, lots f organic or natural wine, feels good

[Anonymous No.14054602]

>>14052105
Basically just don't cook with anything you wouldn't drink too. But also don't use expensive wine for cooking, that's just silly.

[Anonymous No.14054699]

>>14052778
>cannot handle
Funny way of saying "I ruined my mouth with hot sauce so I need my wine to taste like vanilla extract, smuckers jam, and everclear"

[Anonymous No.14055415]

>>14052918
Hey, man, I'm sorry your life is full of low-agency women.

[Anonymous No.14055423]

>>14054699
You want wine as light as a fairy's touch because you yourself are a fairy. American wine is Italian-weather wine made with northern Euro varietals. Cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.14055465]

>>14055423
California is shit tier. I'm sorry you don't have a good selection of US wines in your shit hole country but I doubt you would appreciate wines from an actual good producer

[Anonymous No.14055722]

>>14055465
>I'm sorry you don't have a good selection of US wines in the US
As before, if you insist on framing a matter of personal preference as a matter of quality, I will insist on calling you a pussy bitch who can't handle the slightest hint of actual tannin.

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[Anonymous No.14055746]

>>14055722
>tannins can only come from oak chips
And this is why california wine is for Ron Swanson plebs

[Anonymous No.14055787]

>>14055746
>he drank bottom-shelf swill from the most mass-market region of the state and immediately afterwards considers himself an expert on the subject
>he considers having even the slightest tolerance for wood-based tannin to be reddit-core performative masculinity
I'm ashamed to live in the same country as you.

[Anonymous No.14055813]

>>14055787
Oh my bad. I must have gotten you confused with the guy who was saying "bitch ass pussy" to anyone who doesn't think Apothic and a Hungry Man frozen dinner blasted with Dave's Insanity sauce is the pinnacle of haute cuisine

[Anonymous No.14055816]

What is /ck/'s opinion on second growth Sauternes/Barsac? I dont like spending $70+ on a 375ml premier cru bottle, and ive had some really good ~$15-20 bottles of second growth Sauternes, particularly from Château Rieussec. I dont remember the vintages.

[Anonymous No.14055827]

>>14055816
I've bought that a number of times, not that actual year. I think it's pretty good. Ron Swanson here probably thinks it will turn you gay though.

[Anonymous No.14055889]

>>14055813
>he considers the enjoyment of delicate flavors and the enjoyment of strong flavors anathema to each other
Do the big bad Northern California bordeaux-blends give you a headache the next day, you bitch-made europhile? Your every post reads as cope. Indians cope that they can't swim because only dogs swim. Weak-tongued faggots cope that hot sauce is reddit because a few YouTube personalities use hot sauce. And you cope that hot-weather red wine is bad because "nobody could ACTUALLY like thing I don't like, right? They must be doing it as a flex, nobody could ACTUALLY like thing I don't like."
I would expect nothing less of you, weakling.

>>14055816
Chateau Violet-Lamothe is a good workhorse saut.

[Anonymous No.14055914]

>>14055827
What is your favorite second growth Chateau? And vintage if you can remember it. I know there are some charts online that rate the wine based on vintage and tell you when theyre optimally ready to be drank. I love Sauternes/Barsac so damn much. Id try Tokaji if it wasnt so damn expensive.

[Anonymous No.14055963]

I've been drinking nearly exclusively french red so far and I'd like to try some white. I usually dislike those I taste because they're too sweet and sugary. Any recommendation?

[Anonymous No.14055976]

what's a good wine bros?

[Anonymous No.14055987]

>>14055963
Try a Chablis, or a Sauvignon Blanc from NZ.

[Anonymous No.14055990]

>>14055889
Seethe, ron. Seethe. Then seethe some more. Lastly, log into aol and forward some racist image macros to your boom boom friends. He'll make america great again any day now don't worry.

>>14055914
Yeah lol no, I'm not at that level, it's literally the one sauternes they sell at my local shop that isn't Jeff Bezos price. I buy what's in stock if I want sauternes. I had another sauternes once that a rich uncle was paying for but that was after getting plied with multiple glasses of fancy wine so I didn't make a note of what it was and it would have been tacky to write it down.

[Anonymous No.14055994]

>>14055976
Step 1) Go to wine store
Step 2) Buy wine you haven't tried
Step 3) Drink
If it's good, success.
If it's not good, return to step 1.

[Anonymous No.14056016]

>>14055990
If you keep couching your personal preferences as statements of qualitative fact, I'll continue calling you a bitch-made faggot, and you'll continue to deserve it.
Play Binky's Facts and Opinions before even thinking about replying to this post.

[Anonymous No.14056068]

Why are there so many Americans here DESPERATELY trying to shit on American wine? Do they think that it impresses foreigners?

[Anonymous No.14056086]

>>14056068
A lot of middle-class wine hobbyists (mostly Americans, because like it or not this is an American website) feel the compulsion to act 'cultured.' In most cases, this means acting like a snooty aristocratic stereotype from a half-remembered childhood film.

[Anonymous No.14056110]

>>14056068
>>14056086
Samefag boomboom still can't accept that California is a washed-up has been, the Mike Tyson of wine producing regions. The only people who drink that trash are Brooklyn hipsters who will latch onto anything seemingly shocking or déclassé. It was that or the Chateau Diana.

[Anonymous No.14056131]

>>14056110
Try again, moom moom. It's embarrassing that you fall so hard into this cargo cultist mentality of 'act like rich people, consume rich people product, rich will happen to me.'

[Anonymous No.14056156]

>>14056131
You're projecting again, ron. I've never encountered more pretentious, stuck up faux-posh nonsense than a california tasting room. And then there's the wine shops. Look for anything that isn't a booze and oak bomb from the latest Parker list and they'll glare at you like you're about to pull out a gun and empty the cash register.

[Anonymous No.14056189]

>>14056156
>n-no u
You have never been to a California tasting room.

[Anonymous No.14056193]

Thread is maxed out

new thread

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[Anonymous No.14056211]

>>14056189
Yeah I've had this conversation with boombooms before. Then I name then and they go oh well those weren't the REAL california tasting rooms.

You do the same shit with your horrid ''''wine''''

>Oh THIS one is actually good though, they used 5% whole cluster and only 98% new oak, very OLD WORLD (sic)

Yeah no, fool me once shame on you fool me twice they can't get fooled again, as bush once said

[(You) No.14056711]

>>14056211
you've had some very strange experiences that dont correlate with anyone else's experiences
its like you signed up to eat ass and then bitch abut the taste and not getting a reach around
if you had any experience beyond your pathetic anecdotes youd die of shame from these posts
youre literally having an argument against talking points that no one has brought up or even slightly referenced
no real reason to talk to you

[Anonymous No.14057154]

>>14056086
Fucking kill yourself you absolute fucking pissbrained retard. You’re a pathetic wretched fucking dunning kruger shit eating gay boy. You fucking faggot. Fuck you. Fucking die in a hole you rotten piece of shit fucking retard. M-my mvtt wines can compete with hundreds of years of tradition. You’re JEALOUS of my mega purple. You fucking fool you fucking stupid mutt. Kill yourself

[(You) No.14057181]

>>14057154
thats both nonsensical and unnecessary, bud

[Anonymous No.14057185]

>>14057181
No.

[(You) No.14057188]

>>14057185
i am rightest.