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Have you ever been to a Michelin starred restaurant? What's the experience like?

>> No.14000499

We to Konda in Tokyo, it was a bit of a disapointment. The staff was nice and the chef Kanda himself was behind the bar, cooking. The food is good but not good enough, as there are big diferences between the different dishes. The tuna sushi was amazing and the meat was really good. The dessert, for example, was very simple, just an ice cream and some mochis. And the drinks were really good but the service was messy, maybe because in Europe we are used to pair the food with the drinks. And, bad detail, drinks were not included in the prize although everything we drank was delicious. So, yes, it was a great experience but we expected a little more. Everything is about expectations.

>> No.14000527

Gemany something called Öschberghof. we were invited by rich relatives. the food was ridiculously tasty and the meat was so tender. never eaten something like that.

the problem was that we were completely out of place. i was on my best behavior but all those regulate etiquette confused me and i felt weird the hole experience.

>> No.14000546

Pretentious bullshit. Waste of money.

>> No.14000567

Ive been to a few, food is really fucking nice of course and the wine pairing is fenomenal. I like the kind of food that they serve but some of my friends rather go to a nice ala carte place. Very exensive though so its not something that happens often, never paid myself i think always work or for my birthday.

>> No.14000577

Went to a place that I thought was just a street stall but later turned out to be Michelin starred in Bangkok. Raan Jay Fai. I saw a huge line of people waiting to get food cooked by this little wirey old lady wearing huge goggles and was like, "Alright, let's try it." Shared a crab omelette and some crab curry with my girlfriend. Was really good. Felt strange when I watched a Netflix street food documentary recently and realized I'd accidentally eaten at a Michelin restaurant.

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>>14000489
yeah, many times. when i was kid/teenager, my family we always went to italy/france and then visited restaurants every day, ive been in dozen of one-star and one two-star restaurant.

to my take away, in general they're not worth the money. its a cool experience to do once i guess, but if you do it on a regular basis like we its just not worth the money you pay.

best option is really to look for the BIB Gourmand, typicall the food is nearly the same as in one-star restaurants but in a much, MUCH cozier and relaxed atmosphere. Two-stars is just one-star but even more formal. Not really better.

Highly recommend making a road-trip through southern france and basically just looking for BIP gourmand every day.

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>>14000489
burgah

>> No.14000772

went to a few 1-2 star ones
dishes are unique
service is very good
priced too high to do it frequently

>> No.14000800

>>14000764
>stacking below
hmm

>> No.14000807

>>14000764
Why does his face look like PS2 graphics?

>> No.14000842

I've been to a couple. Noma in copenhagen and koks on the Faroe islands. Noma was pretentious as fuck from the get go, you're greeted by the entire restaurant staff standing in a long ass line while you get to your table. while the food was interesting, I wouldn't say it was worth it - I assume it was great at some point, but it feels like they're trying WAY too hard to stay relevant and innovative. It was fun and all, but it felt forced.

Koks was amazing, incredible setting, amazing food, nice and calm yet classy atmosphere, incredible serice. Fresh seafood straight from the water, and very interesting dishes and wine all round. 10/10 would recommend.

>> No.14000913

>>14000489
My grandfather is hugely into fine dining so as a kid I got to eat at some some of France's best restaurants during our trips to France. For instance for my grandmother's anniversary we'd eat at Taillevent in Paris for the main event. That must have been in 1999, back when they still had 3 stars.

I was still quite young, but I remember a ridiculously attentive staff and huge amounts of excellent food. I've later been told that we spent over 1000 francs(~150 euro) on water alone.

>> No.14000942

>>14000913
Isn't water supposed to be free? American here btw

>> No.14000956

>>14000489
I've been to a lot in New York, three in Chicago, one in Hong Kong, one in Paris, one in Lyon, and one in Strasbourg.

There are a lot of places that good that don't have a star. My answer, and this will sound patronizing but there's no way to say it without sounding that way, is that if you have to ask, you probably can't appreciate it. It will make you uncomfortable and you will feel defensive and ripped off.

If you know and love food and wine, you'll love it.

>> No.14000957

are there any other non-meme ranking systems by a company that doesn't primarily manufacture tires?

>> No.14000968

>>14000957
Pellegrino, they make bottles to put water into to sell at an extreme markup.

>> No.14000979

>>14000942
Not in europe. Places only have bottled water. I think they do it in order to conserve water. The amount of water wasted in american eateries is ridiculous (look it up).

>> No.14001095

spanish restaurant in london. one star. food was extremely good, counter seating only, no reservations afaik, you just line up before they open. the waitress actively tried to talk me out of ordering a certain kind of sherry, saying it wouldn't go with the food. she was right

>> No.14001119

>>14000489
I have been to a few including 1, 2 and 3 star places. They vary from anywhere between exceptional to disappointing.

Probably one of my biggest disappointments was Le Gavroche. It felt like it had 2 starts just because of its historical significance in British cooking. The actual experience overall was significantly worse than many 1 star places I have visited.

>> No.14001224

>>14000979
Good thing fresh water is practically infinite and it's no issue at all whatsoever.

>> No.14001255

>>14000489
>What's the experience like?
the staff made me pack my own takeaway dimsum, and charged me 10% "service".

https://mothership.sg/2013/09/tim-ho-wan-advantage-food-lovers-singapore/

>inb4 you should tip more like amurikans!

>> No.14001274

>>14000489
A fair few, but only in the UK. The food is reliably good, but you might have to contend with laboured presentation and/or pretense in general. Also, it usually adds 50-100% to the price (all else equal) if that means anything to you.

The wine is always bad. Always, here.

>> No.14001305

>>14000489
Yes, I went to Belmond Le Manoir aux Quat'Saisons once. It was pretty rubbish honestly. The food wasn't amazing, I've legitimately had better in pubs, the service was beyond pretentious (I've been to state dinners with less bells and whistles and airs) and the whole thing was basically a novelty. Awful place altogether. I'd actively talk anyone out of going there.

>> No.14001308

>>14000489
I have a few times. I genuinely think it's a scam.

>> No.14001400

>>14001305
Pretentiousness doesnt really surprise me. I always find Raymond Blanc comes across as quite arrogant in a lot of what he does on tv.

>> No.14001412

>>14001400
If it's starred, and you saw it on television, skip it

>> No.14001433

>>14000489
I've been to Alinea in Chicago when it was in the Top 10 on San Pellegrino's top 50. It's worth the price for sure, but you need to approach it differently than normal dining. It's not just about taste. The timing, presentation, smells, texture, service, and just the general atmosphere are all set up for the best possible experience. It's an experience to try once, for me it made me fall in love with fine dining and I still draw inspiration from it when cooking and that was close to 8 years ago.

>> No.14001442

>>14001412
I've been to quite a few 'celeb' chef places. Restaurant Gordon Ramsay, Dinner by Heston, Le Gavroche, Marcus Wareing at The Berkeley, Core by Claire Smyth. Mixed bag - some excellent, some not so good.

I guess that a lot of 2 and 3 star chefs become quite well known in the UK purely because there arent many of them If you are inclined to watch food/cooking programs then chances are you will know a good handful of the top chefs.

>> No.14001455

>>14001433
Not gunnu lie, I'm jelly. Sometimes you eat (or experience) something that just changes the way you think about food and what it can be. Rare moments but they stick with you.

>> No.14002443

>>14000842
yeh i bet you thought koks was amazing, fag

>> No.14002465

>>14002443
kek

>> No.14002469

>>14000979
Fresh water is pretty fucking easy to come by. It's fucking water.

>> No.14002668

>>14002469
>Fresh water is pretty fucking easy to come by.

hold my beer

>> No.14003752

>>14000979
What? Are you seriously arguing that tap water is not a thing in Europe?

>> No.14003803

>>14000489
Yeah

>> No.14003910

>>14002668
Is that a reference to the middle ages when the lake water was undrinkable due to the fact that everyone's feces was moved there after they dumped it out their windows, forcing them to rely on beer, or am I thinking about this too much?

>> No.14004015

>>14003752
Not OP, but a lot of restaurants will take advantage of you if you can't speak the language and try to push bottled water.

Many places in europe mainly subsist off of tourism, so service industry needs to make as much money as possible. Bottled water is an easy upsell.

>> No.14004065

In Italy, we speak on average of € 250 per person.
Very formal environments (which is pleasant but also somewhat inhibiting), ridiculous portions, very high quality of food and of combination of ingredients.
To be done maybe once in a lifetime if you really have a lot of money, but not more.
I'm from Puglia, and in Puglia you can live sensational culinary experiences based on fish and wine that are perhaps the best in the world with not even € 100.

>> No.14004689

>>14000701
Good advice mate! Some 1-2 stars are really worth the money but it's safer to go a notch below

>> No.14004693

Been to all the 1* ones in DC. I want to go to the 2 star ones but they seem pricey. I liked all of them, blue duck tavern had weak drinks for brunch though.

>> No.14004997

>>14000942
>>14000979
xou can get tap water in most regular restaurants, but ordering tap water in a michelin star restaurant is pretty much the same as ordering chicken nuggets

>> No.14005033

>>14004065

Italy is easiest the best dining experience if you on a budget, best food in europe hands down. If on a budget france aint got shit on you.

>> No.14005056

>>14000489
I've only been to Jiro's restaurant a few years ago. I wasn't the one paying, but holy shit it wasn't great back in 2015. It's crazy that it took Michelin like 4 more years to remove their stars.

Also how the fuck are there no Michelin rated restaurants in Mass?

>> No.14005061

>>14000546
A lot of times it is pretentious, but not always. There's that $2 chicken joint in Singapore that has at least one star. It's usually worth it if you enjoy good food and have the money to burn.

>> No.14005122

>>14000489
I had the tasting menu at Charlie Trotters way back in the day before his brain exploded. I thought everything was really good and overall was worth the cash.

>> No.14005334

>>14001442
How was heston?

>> No.14005377

I used to work at one

>> No.14005441

>>14000489
Like a pretentious Burger King.

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>>14000764
>total bun thickens exceeds meat thickness.
>not using thin bun
Pure heresy.

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>>14000489
I've been at Faviken, Swe.
Two Michelin stars.

It was good, really good.
Cozy and social experience.
As with fine dining like that, it's peculiar how justified the cost seem in relation to the experience.
Would dine again...if only it didn't close.

>> No.14005748

>>14000489
I've been to a Michelin recommended restaurant in France, Le Grand Vatel, in Vouvray, absolutely magnificent. They have a seasonal thing called fritters de la Loire, it's a small white fish that they deep fry whole sans guts and what not. Really quality place.

>> No.14005994

>>14005334
I thought it was ok, my wife rates it as one of her favourites on the list of places we have been.

Starters were meat fruit - looks amazing and is very nice. I have had better parfait, but it was certainly up there. Roast marrowbone which I loved.

Mains were spiced pigeon with artichokes and duck with smoked fennel. I was a little underwhelmed with the mains and they dont really stand out in my memory.

We ordered 3 desserts. Tipsy cake with spit roast pineapple was simple but deeply satisfying. Chocolate bar with ginger and passionfruit - fine but unremarkable. Taffety Tart which is probably one of the finest desserts I have ever had.

Hard to be that wowed with the place when the mains felt average. The service was a bit rushed and they made no mention of needing the table back at a certain time when booking, but then they essentially forced us to the bar in a not so subtle way almost immediately after dessert for the after dinner chocolates and coffee.

>> No.14006066

>>14005689

Ending meal with a snus is based

>> No.14006934

>>14003910
It's not just about a lack of human sanitation in the middle ages. The amoeba Giardia is commonly found worldwide in freshwater and causes moderate-severe gastrointestinal illness. You'd have to boil all water before ingesting to avoid things like this.

>> No.14007548

>>14000764
>half-burnt sesame seed bun
>rare patty
would politely return it desu

>> No.14007792

>>14000489
Yeah I went to one that was near Santa Rosa in California. Overall it was pretty meh, very pretentious and the servers wouldn’t stop folding my napkin for me and pulling my seat out every time I went for a piss, overpriced as well. Wasn’t a bad experience but I wouldn’t ever pay for it with my own money that’s for sure. Wait staff at these places pull in tons of fucking money and don’t really have to do any sort of memorizing as the menu is always set. Had a buddy who worked at a Michelin Star restaurant and he often pulled in close to a 100k a year and all he had to do was pamper rich retards.

>> No.14008306

>>14004689
and be careful of faux-fancy stuff, at least if there's a Michelin star the quality is 100% there, no matter if the price is worth it or not, and you generally have enough to eat. Fake high class just gives you small portions of cheap stuff and charge like a 1 star.
so even if there's no star you have to check Bib Gourmand like anon suggested or some reliable recomendation

>> No.14009490

>>14006066
Yep, I liked it and it was really flavorful and on point, even though it was my first time trying snus.

>> No.14010365

I've had din tai fung which apparently got a Michelin star. It's good but not amazing. No other experiences yet

>> No.14010506

It's all placebo affect. Also it's only worth it if you can afford it otherwise you will regret it. It's like going to Vegas with a tiny budget to gamble. Go big or go home.

>> No.14010589

>>14010506
Theres no need to go big or go home. I have been to places and had a lunch menu or small tasting menu and drank tap water. It cost about £50+service per person.

These same places serve tasting menus for £150, serve glasses of wine starting at £10+, and have bottles of wine on the menu that run in to the thousands. If you want that, you can buy it and no doubt it would be really nice. But it doesnt mean going there for a relatively cheap lunch isnt a great experience.

>> No.14011606

>>14004693
Which was your favorite? I went to Tail Up Goat a long time ago but I'm moving to the area and want to celebrate with a different place.

>> No.14011706

>>14000489
Morimoto's, peter Luger's, and Del Posto

They were all very good. Morimoto's has the best sashimi I've ever had. The ravioli at del posto was great. Peter Luger's steak was very good and I was surprised by how casual the dress code was (i was overdressed).

>> No.14011883

I had an ex girlfriend whose hobby was going to high-end places when she lived on the West Coast. She made it sound like the starred restaurants she went to were the second coming of christ, but she was also incredibly pretentious and superficial, and she never convinced me to go down to NYC or wherever and tried a starred place. She did buy me a birthday dinner at a non-star fancy steakhouse, and I walked out of there feeling deeply uncomfortable that I'd just had a $400 dinner that I was going to shit out the next morning with nothing to show for it.

Maybe I don't belong on /ck/.

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>>14000000
>>13999999

>> No.14015109

Yeah but it was a surprise for my birthday. I knew I was going to a somewhat nice restaurant so I got slightly dressed up. And didn't do anything with my ass length hair and extremely unkempt beard. I felt extremely uncomfortable for a little bit when I got there but there's something fun about being completely out of place in fancy restaurants. The food was incredible. I wasn't allowed to look at the price of the bill.