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am i becoming an alcoholic if i want to have a drink with lunch and dinner (but only 1-1.5)?

>> No.13885652
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>>13885640

>> No.13885671

people treat alcoholism like it's a binary condition one enters by crossing certain empirical lines. alcoholism is a state of mind. it's not about quantity it's about motivation. I drink only the weekends but my relationship with alcohol is that of an alcoholic, ie characterized by dependency and isolation

>> No.13885691

>>13885671
Surprisingly based response. This negro is right though, if you have 2 drinks a night you might by definition be a alcoholic, but not if you can give it up or you can skip it if need be

>> No.13885697

>>13885671
its true. you dont get diagnosed as an alcoholic anymore
its substance misuse disorder

>> No.13885724

>>13885640
>am i becoming an alcoholic if i want to have a drink with lunch and dinner (but only 1-1.5)?
Why are Ameicans like this?

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>>13885671
nice response, im a weekend warrior and this hits home :(

>> No.13885792

>>13885691
>if you have 2 drinks a night you might by definition be a alcoholic
that's moderate drinking by definition. the concern is that if i start drinking with every meal im just going to start drinking all the time and have more like 8 drinks a day (par for an actual alcoholic).

>> No.13885794

>>13885640
>want
How does your demeanor change if you don't drink it?

>> No.13885805

Do you want to or do you "need" to? Would you be irritable if you didn't have the drink? Do you have thoughts along the lines of "gee I could use a drink right now"? If the answer to those is yes, you're well into the journey to alcoholism. If you also drink in the evenings in addition to those lunch and dinner drinks you're absolutely an alcoholic by clinical definitions, as even drinking with two meals every day would place you in that category. Try tea or water instead.

>> No.13885807

>>13885671
>he's right you know.nig

>> No.13886279

>>13885671
wow maybe my ex was right about me.
fuck

>> No.13886483

>>13886279
nah your dick is just perfect <3

wait wut

>> No.13886513

>>13885640
I drink straight vodka from pretty much the minute I wake up until I pass out. Having having a drink with dinner is completely normal.

>> No.13886550
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I drink 1 to 2 tall cans at night after work most days. Just mellows the mood and gets me into chill mode. I'm 28, happily married, I have a job. I don't reek, I don't crave and I still hang with friends and pursue my passion aside from my 9 to 5. I wouldn't call myself an alcoholic, but it sure feels that way when the same people always see me buying my cans. But whatever, my life kinda rules in comparison to the people I know.

>> No.13886762

>>13886550
If you're exercising enough you're fine that's like 4 max. These retards have dozens per night

>> No.13886848

>>13885671
I'm 98% with this guy,
and I appreciate his candor and it's effect on other anons,

but I have one addendum-


>>13885671
>>13885640

AA used to have a 13nth step when it was first created- the 13th step was actually recovery.
Now a days it only has 12 steps, and there is no part of the program where a person can have a drink without being an alcoholic.

The 13th step, recovery, was designed to be there once a person has conquered their dependency/addiction to alcohol, and can go back to drinking normally without having problems. I think that the sheer fact that AA doesn't have a step like this is insanity- I believe that you absolutely must bring these kinds of ideas up to your consccious and subconscious brain in order for it to imagine/dream/work towards them in reality. I apologize if that sounds like new-age mumbo jumbo, but all I really mean is that you NEED the vocabulary in order to do things. People MUST have memetic concepts inside their mind in order to be able to access certain thoughts.


so, take this memetic concept, or this thought pump, the 13th step of AA, and realize that ADDICTION and ALCOHOL don't need to have anything to do with each other. Humans addict and withdraw from everything- sleep, hunger, sex, and of course all the normal things. We call it an addictive substance only when it is not used for survival- but I argue that sometimes that's exactly what alcohol is. We have a soul and a mind, and you must treat both of those things very well in order to truly live, and that means that sometimes you absolutely need to have a fucking cake,
and sometimes you need to fucking drink (not everyone obviously) but if you like alcohol, sobriety can be as much an addiction as the alcohol was.


TL:DR
sepperate addiciton and alochol in your memetic vocabulary, look into the 13th of AA that no longer exists,
and then listen to "Coffee, god and ciggerettes." by mischief brew, and you'll understand, and you'll be fine.

>> No.13886861

>>13886848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yzr-07SUPY

for anyone who doesn't want to google

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>>13885671
Well said

>> No.13887407

>>13886848
>the 13th step of AA
citation needed

>> No.13888659

>>13885691
not OP... but this is pretty reassuring... I was having 2 - 4 beers daily, always in the evening at around six or seven, but I gave it up for Lent. Easter is in less than a week and I haven't caved... First week, the cravings were there, around six or seven every night, but each week got easier. Been drinking a lot of soda though so I guess I didn't do that much for my health

>> No.13888751

>>13885671
i fucking hate getting drunk, i have better things to do and alcohol just gets in the way. but i just can't help myself, i like the taste of cider too much.

>> No.13888794

>>13885640
>lunch and dinner

yes

you're an alcoholic if you want/need to drink during a normal day. evening is fine, not day.

>> No.13888882

>>13886848
This post and folk punk are reddit as fuc

>> No.13888903

>>13888794
>muh arbitrary acceptable drinking schedule
Thanks, Mom.

>> No.13889027

>>13885640
>>13885640
kys nazi

>> No.13889154

>>13886848
I googled 13th step and it just gave me some crap about old time AA members fucking younger AA members. But I agree minus that god awful song you posted.

>> No.13889159

>>13885792
>that's moderate drinking by definition.
Ok alcoholic.
How is that moderate drinking "by definition", when two drinks a day is the medical treshold for "at risk of alcoholism" in men?

>> No.13889170

>>13885671
This is probably right. I go through phases where I can clear a bottle of vodka over two days and do it for two weeks straight, then I just stop and it doesn’t bother me at all. I never need to drink it - I just like to.