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why vegans just don't eat real meat

>> No.13880195

>>13880184
Because their brains are fucked and cause them to experience too much empathy

>> No.13880216

>>13880184
It' s hatred born from ignorance.

>> No.13880229
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>>13880184
>trying to turn plants into meat
>not just finding good vegan recipes

>> No.13880235

>>13880195
eggsplain why vegans don't have empathy for humans

>> No.13880240

>>13880229
Most vegans can't cook sadly.

>> No.13880305

>plant protein
Paper?

>> No.13880306

>>13880184
Some are transitioning from a meat diet and want to trick their kids into eating vegetables.

>> No.13880327

>>13880184
Why don't straight people marry the person they're dating if the purpose of dating is to be together with someone?

GOT EM

>> No.13880329

>>13880184
Not the heckin cowerino, everyone knows animals just live in happiness and plenty in the wild and die peacefully of old age

>> No.13880338

>>13880184
Why do you think? Try to think REALLY hard what could be the reason. Instead of asking stupid questions.

>> No.13880399

We’ve been over this. Mechanical planting and harvesting kills between twenty and thirty thousand small mammals per acre, every year. These animals are not instantly killed with a captive bolt gun, but they are crushed to death in their shallow burrows or ripped to shreds by whirling blades. Their atomized gore ends up permeating every single pulse, grain, bit of rice you eat. Unless you believe that somehow a cow’s life is worth more than a vole’s or a rat’s, which is totally stupid thinking as I’m sure you agree, you’re causing more suffering and animal death than if you exclusively ate beef, where you could easily kill only one cow per person per year.

It’s not the meat industry that kills the most animals per year. It’s big grain and soy.

No, only a sick freak of a vegan would eat grains and pulses and beans. It’s absolutely cruel! This is why, as an actually ethical vegan and not just a slave to big grain, you shouldn’t eat mechanically harvested crops of any kind. Imagine this little animals getting crushed, mangled, their guts spurting out in wormlike coils as they are crushed, entire families of them! Tiny little baby bunnies and voles, their eyes just opened for the first time, and the only thing they EVER saw was their poor mommy’s skull getting smashed and her brains coming out, right before that soy harvester kills them too.

Vegan people are sick freaks and they’re in a Satanic death cult - lying and saying they’re saving the planet when their soybean hunger is deforesting the Amazon and they deal much more death than a strict carnivore. All the while lying to themselves and everybody else.

Veganism is positively Satanic unless you do it like the Jain.

>> No.13880410

>>13880195
Is too much empathy a bad thing though?

>> No.13880412

>>13880184
>pictured in photo: actual steaks, not the "vegan" ones they invented

>> No.13880426
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13880426

If you don't hunt/fish/raise your own meat, you're just as much of a soyboy as vegans. You don't deserve to eat a steak that someone else raised, killed, butchered, and cooked for you.

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>>13880184
that's real meat in the OP. this is the actual product

>> No.13880441

>>13880184
vegan parmesan is just a shaker of cellulose

>> No.13880449

>>13880437
...so its just vegetable pate in the shape of a steak? And how much did that tiny slice of slime cost to make? Or rather, what are they selling it for?

>> No.13880474
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13880474

Vegans should eat exclusively offal. That way, no additional animals are killed and dead animal's bodies don't go to waste partially. You can literally NOT refute this, it is the absolute truth.

>> No.13880494

What if we turned meat protein into imitation plants

>> No.13880501

>>13880494
Would be too close to Dead space.

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>>13880494

>> No.13880525

>>13880410
Yes. It makes you a soft faggot.

>> No.13880530

>>13880329
that's why small farms are better for animals than living in the wild most of the time, but i'd probably rather live in the wild than be a chicken in a battery cage

>> No.13880581

>>13880474
>Your "food" is about as wanted as Jimmies sage garbage.
That has to hurt.

>> No.13880625

>>13880449
More than regular beef to sell supposedly if more people buy it'll be cheaper but that doesn't make sense as if the cost to make them is so much lower, the price should be lower to. But eh whatever im not a paid shill for fake meat.

>> No.13880668

>>13880184
>edible
Sounds delicious

>> No.13880783

>>13880426
This but unironically, even the most hardcore carnists refuse to touch animals even for the meat they're dedicated to. its because nonvegans only care about animals as meat machines and vegans care about them as companions

>> No.13880796

>>13880184
>>13880229
So like some vegan recipes? Delicious. I'll eat them once in awhile for variety. That's the thing though, if you can ONLY eat vegan recipes you're going to get fucking bored.

As someone who just likes variety I'm fine with this, but some restaurants are already touting these vegan meats as healthier alternatives and they are definitely NOT. Aside from the plants being extremely overly processed, they're pretty comparable in fat, calorie, etc content as real meat.

>> No.13880806

>>13880184
As a vegetarian I don’t really miss meat

>> No.13880812

>>13880806
As a vegan I don't miss meat either, I don't remember the taste of animal products either. I only remember eggs because of the acidic eggs and I sometimes taste my own throat acid and it tastes the same as a egg does

>> No.13880948

>>13880327
They don't?

>> No.13880951

>>13880399
Based based based based

>> No.13880961

>>13880399

is this the based department?

>> No.13881011

>>13880437
Seems to fall apart easily

Like a vegan

>> No.13881036

>>13880235
because they don't see humans as animals but rather these deities overlooking all other life on the planet they live in
they also don't understand how the food chain works in the nature and that animals do indeed kill each other for sustenance and don't question whether it's morally wrong to kill another animal for food, they just do it
they think that humans are supposed to be the saviors of animals instead of letting them be and sort themselves out

Veganism is a result of people having nothing better to do with their time. Go back +40 years and life was all about survival and nobody had the time to think about their diet or transformation to different sex. Easy times make weak men, hard times will come soon

>> No.13881062

>>13880327

If i even recognized my gf as my gf we'd be ruined financially.

>> No.13881068

>>13881036
veganism is just the white man's burden mentality writ large

>> No.13881130

>>13880783
>carnists
What's a 'carnist?'

>> No.13881191

>>13881130
A normal person.

>> No.13881200

>>13880437
Ewww, it looks like overcooked liver.

>> No.13881375

friendly reminder that this is a normal practice and is agreed among many to be a fairly humane method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVR7NjnMkIc


personally, I think it makes a great sound track to play on halloween to scare trick or treaters

>> No.13881764

>>13880399
Informatively based

>> No.13881866

>>13880184
Because it's not vegan

>> No.13881871

>>13881036
All that's understood. Why should any of that lead to the conclusion that we should maximize suffering?

>> No.13881881

>>13881068
Veganism is rooted in Afro Asian culture more than anything. This just sounds like you disingenuously playing moralizer to deflect your own guilt

>> No.13881883

>>13881375
Post a kosher slaughter video so we can have /pol/ shitposting as well as vegan shitposting.

>> No.13881966

>>13881883
no way im posting that savagery, that shit's one step above beating and boiling dogs alive

>> No.13882117
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>>13881375
Oy vey, it's another shoah

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>>13880184
Don't like the texture on most of it. I only really like chicken wings and fish and honestly I can go without them. I know not having them doesn't actually do anything to help alleviate factory farming or needless suffering, but I'm getting close to the point where I can go full freegan jain.

Ideally if I ever eat fish or chicken again in my life it'll be because I caught or raised it myself.

>> No.13883506

>>13881871
>kill animals as painlessly as possible, make use of all meat
>let them grow old and decrepit while destroying their environment to make more room for bulk crops genemodded to feed human useless eaters as much low-nutritional-value plant biomass as possible
>hamstring them and eating them alive as predators do per natural law
Pick the moral option, veganigger

>> No.13883658

>>13880399
most grain and beans are used as livestock feed, that beef you eat is mostly soy fed.

>> No.13883676

>>13880195
Retard statement.

>> No.13883684

>>13880525
Retard statement

>> No.13883726

>>13880184
Because real meat is real meat you idiot.

>> No.13883818

>>13881375
What the fuck? Why not any other gas? CO2 can be detected by animals and it's the feeling you get when suffocating.

>> No.13883958

>>13880426
we couldn't afford to kill everything we eat but we do get animals to kill somewhat often, I've probably cut the heads of over 100 chickens in my life, we had 8 deer last year that I helped with the butchering as much as I could (retrolisthisis my back is fucked) and depending on how things go now we might butcher a pig and do it over a fire soon, haven't had a cow in a long time though, and I was too young to do much but watch the butchering process.

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13884233

Whatever, dumbass. I don’t like anything that resembles meat personally but it helps a lot of people cut out animal products so who cares.

>> No.13884248

>>13884233
>Why do meat eaters not shape their nuggets like dinosaurs?
Look at this absolute retard.

>> No.13884252

>make a radical change in your diet, basically forcing you to relearn how to cook because everything you've eaten always has had meat in it
>some fat retard on /ck/ who hasn't cooked for himself in his life and eats domino's four times a week judges you for using any convenient drop-in substitutes

>> No.13884255

>>13884233
what about people and who have whole turkey or chicken?

>> No.13884266

>>13881036
There are plenty of reasonable arguments against veganism. None of them are present in this sad excuse for a post.

>> No.13884274

>>13880184
I don't think vegans are denying that meat tastes good.

>> No.13884278

>>13883658
>not eating grass fed

>> No.13884280

>>13880184

How do they know it's meat like in texture and/or taste if they abhore meat in the first place and likely never had it (or haven't had it in years)?

They must be working with meat-eaters to make those claims. Hypocrites.

>> No.13884284

>>13880235

Vegans are overwhelmingly liberal lefties. They are already deficient and ready to throw their fellow man under the bus unless they have redeeming qualities such as being a POC or ethnic minority. Their ideology trumps forgiveness - don't like their agenda = you can die as far as they are concerned and they would cheer for it.

>> No.13884358

>>13880512
looks like a turd.

>> No.13884407

>>13880184
Because anybody want go look at and then if at the idea of with the end.

>> No.13884413

>>13880229
>this same tired argument
I’m not even vegan but you don’t need to be a genius to know that most people aren’t born vegan and grow up enjoying meat. They have nothing against the flavor of meat and even crave it still so like having choices they seem “ethical” so they can still get that

>> No.13884569

>>13880184
Why nothing happens when I click on play?

>> No.13884585

>>13880410
yeah

killing isn't innately bad

>> No.13884586

Mmm, yes, please give me more of that ultra-processed plant product.
Fuck that, just let me have a salad.

>> No.13884588

>>13880449
using animal products is probably the greenest you can get with your food and products. That includes fur and leather.

Meanwhile vegans are over here trying to use smokestacked industrial buildings just to recreate something that already exists

>> No.13884597

>>13881881
He doesn't actually mean it's THE White man's burden in terms of race, he's referring to the mentality of superiority. Vegans feel that humans are vastly superior to animals in terms of intellect, judgement and morals, making humans the rightful stewards of the planet and that they have been born into excessive privilege that animals cannot enjoy. As such, it is their moral responsibility to do everything in their power to benevolently uplift animals.They humanize animals, assign moral values to them and anthropomorphize them in various other ways. They really do believe that animals deserve to be our equals despite the aforementioned superiority complex.

>> No.13884613

>>13880437
Small, anemic and pitiable. Just like a vegan.

>> No.13884694

>>13880184
the lack of any nutrients in their diet causes them to become incredibly stupid

>> No.13884710
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>>13880195
Not a bad basic logic but wrong. They feel like they are inferior, persecuted, subjugated, tormented, subdued, or otherwise lesser than others, which is why they identify with the perceived oppressed (the animals) than the perceived oppressor (humans), it's one big inferiority complex.

Same with all the social justice people who always side with whoever they perceive as oppressed (Mexicans, Africans, women, LGBTQBRAAP+, whatever), which is why almost every single vegan is leftist, and those that aren't are usually more about the health benefits to themselves than "muh animuls".

>> No.13884723

>>13883818
Helium is expensive as shit and needed for MRI machines and nitrogen is for welders

>> No.13884734

>>13884585
We don't just kill them. We cause them unnecessary agony because it earns more shekels.

>> No.13884761

>>13884588
>using animal products is probably the greenest you can get with your food and products.

How is growing plants to feed an animal and then eating the animal more ecological than just eating the plants? Sure it was efficient back in the day when we could just let the animals eat all the inedibles from nature but these days the animal eat the same stuff they grow for humans

>> No.13884768

>>13884585
Nothing is innately good or bad. Morality is a human construct, it doesn't exist in nature

>> No.13884792
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>>13884768
dare i say based

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>>13880399

>> No.13884846

>>13880229
they're so confused due to their mentally ill diet and they crave meat but they forget they can just slaughter and get the meat from an animal instead of making oestrogen sponges

>> No.13884850

>>13880399
Yeah, we have. And you get btfo every time you try to make this argument. It's getting sad. Are you incapable of learning?

>> No.13884901

>>13880184
It's really simple and it's the exact same thought process behind someone drinking sugar free cola, or buying FairTrade™ chocolate - they like the product but they don't like the downsides associated with said product. Whether they want lab made meat (or 'mock' meat') for ethical reasons, environmental reasons, health reasons, or any other reason, depends on the person but it's not a hard concept to grasp fucknut
>>13880426
ridiculously based. paying someone to kill and gut an animal for you is sÖy incarnate.

>> No.13884921

>>13884413
Just eat meat. Stop being brainwashed.

>> No.13884924

>>13880235
Malthusian tendencies and a misunderstanding of animal relations. Vegans also support things like rewilding which results in massive ecological damage and huge numbers of dead animals, but it's seen as morally good cos 'Nasty humans aren't hurting the animals'.

>> No.13884946

>>13884761
>grow plants
>feed plants to animal
>eat animal

nothing artificial (unless you're talking about factory farming).

vs

>take oil out of the ground
>strip mine metals from the ground with machinery
>ship the oil to a factory to turn it into plastic
>smelt the ore into steel
>ship that to an assembly plant to make 3D printers
>ship that to a consumer
>make artificial meat

also, leather and fur rots naturally overtime. Nylon and plastic haha good luck.

>> No.13884960

>>13884233
Are you asking why we butcher animals and cut up their meat instead of eating a whole cow every time we want a sandwich?

>> No.13884972

>>13884921
let the toddler eat what he wants

>> No.13884976

>>13884972
He'll eat what's in front of him because that's all there is. And when he gets hungry later, it'll be waiting for him.

>> No.13884981

>>13884976
and i'll be waiting for you with my dick out

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>>13880530
I'd rather be a beautiful heritage breed of chicken on a regenerative farm, so my life will be more meaningful than just feeding people.

>> No.13885006

y'all can just eat street chicken
honestly its easier and cheaper than buying meat

>> No.13885009
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13885009

>>13884233

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>>13884761
>but these days
These days are changing, buddy.
OM= organic matter

>> No.13885023

>>13880399
Okay cool, but why do they still need to pretend they're doing it anyway?

>> No.13885030

>>13885023
wat

>> No.13885046

>>13885014
Devil's advocate, this is starting in 1993 from decades of piss poor farming practices depleting the soil.
I'd be curious to see what natural, untouched soil from the areas surrounding said farmland looks like in terms of organic matter.

>> No.13885179

>>13885006
>y’all
Back to your trailer, Cletus. The educated are talking.

>> No.13885191

>>13885046
that land still has animals living on it

>> No.13885199

>>13885023
its not like they don't like meat, its that their aware of the pain physically that animals endure just because we eat them and shit. its not like they dont 'want' meat. its that they just morally can't, its like they saw the 'meat video' about meat industry and they feel the same way for all the chickens cooped up in cages and cows being shredded for steak as they do the way they feel about their pet dog. they see them as animals. period. not a convenience/resource.

the only problem i have with this logic is the fact that plants too are living and they're more than happy to chop down a few to make some salads or fake pizzas amirite but hey thats JUST A THEORY

>> No.13885205

>>13885199
plants aren't sentient

>> No.13885514

>>13885205
Just like most animals

>> No.13885523

>>13885514
Most animals are sentient

>> No.13885530

>>13885205
plants are living but not sentient.

got it, retard. anything else while we have you on this rare occurrence, numbnuts?

>> No.13885549

>>13883658
Vegans always tell this lie even though they know it is a lie.

And you will just repeat this lie again even though you are given information showing it isn't true. Such is the behaviour of a cult member trying to recruit more cult members.

https://www.cgiar.org/news-events/news/fao-sets-the-record-straight-86-of-livestock-feed-is-inedible-by-humans/

>> No.13885574

>>13885523
By what definition? That they have senses? Thermometers perceive and react to temperature, do they feel hot? Low capacity organic computers retract from molecular disruption and can store limited memory on what caused it, easily programmable in a synthetic as well. Does that prove sentience as a useful concept in ethics? I don't think it does.

>> No.13885626

>>13885523
You know mammals are just a tiny part of Animalia right?

>> No.13885637

>>13880437
Nice sear, this """"""""""""""steak""""""""""""" deserves a good ol' serving of 'chup

>> No.13885650

>>13880812
>acidic eggs
>some times I'd taste my own throat acid and it would taste the same as the eggs

What the FUCK does that mean you fucking schizo?

>> No.13885655

>>13884981
What dick? Fucking veggietranny.

>> No.13885764

>>13884710
The difference between vegan and the “plant based” label is essentially caring about the animals vs. self. (Aka why some vegans get mad if you tell them you’re vegan “for your health”)

Vegans are more about ethics than anything else.

>> No.13885782

>>13884710
>>13885764
Environmentalism is a bigger driver for veganism than both of these

>> No.13885796

>>13885549
You're not really convincing anyone by saying we're taking up swarths of farmland for food not even for us

>> No.13885814

Why do eggs taste like sulfur?
There is frequently the odor of sulfur. This is due to a reaction between traces of iron in the yolk and sulfur in the white. It happens only when the eggs have been overcooked. Perfectly cooked yolks are moist and deep orange.Apr 22, 2011

>also
>schizo

Let's get real already, you're more unstable than I am if you're resorting to insulting people with random mental disorders

>> No.13885849

>>13885814
>couldn't even respomd to me directly

Veggietranny coward.

>> No.13885873

>>13885849
I swear I clicked your post number and I even re-read, are you a 4chan mod or am I unironically blind?

>My face when a 4chan mod trolls vegans just because someone told them to lay off the dairy cheese once and now he constantly seethes

>> No.13885905

>>13885814
>sulfur
>having anything to do with you eating acidic tasting eggs
>Apr 22, 2011

What the fuck are you on about, are you actually schizo?

>> No.13885910

>>13885873
No just hallucinating

>> No.13885919

>>13885205
So when are you going to go culling the comatose, brain dead, and significantly retarded? I’m down when you are.

>> No.13885931

>>13883818
yeah like >>13884723 said
other gases are more expensive and it all comes down to the bottom dollar, it's the same method kill shelters have been shut down for using but on an industrial scale, only slightly better than using car exhaust on a barrel.

however, there are alternatives that are similar in running costs, but the initial investment is larger and you need a proper maintenance team on the robot-bits
https://youtu.be/adtjQDW9rVE?list=UUhBcB2ogxBjSx3sWJ8jg4rA&t=702

the sticking is still done by a worker instead of automated because otherwise blood and grease would get into the mechanical bits and cause further health risks, while co2 prevents no further challenges to deal with than needing ear protection and a stone cold hearted worker or two, which you need in either method
the gas method is just as dangerous for the workers though, if someone fell into that fit they would not survive, and in the first video around 38 minutes a loose pig crashes to the bottom, meaning someone at the end of the shift had to go down there to pull the pig out after venting the co2

where it starts to get really fucked up though is when you start to realize, the pneumatic guns used on cattle aren't used solely because they need to kill a far larger volume of pigs compared to cattle
the pneumatic guns present no challenges for use or clean up, the stun is instant, but wrangling the pigs would slow down the production line too much, cows just sometimes curiously lick the gun instead of resisting.

>> No.13885943

>>13885919
Those are all sapient beings.

>> No.13885954

>>13885943
Cool story, but we’re talking about /sentient/ beings here.

>> No.13885955

>>13885943
How are they

>> No.13886109

>>13880426
we live in a society

>> No.13886142

>>13880229
TECHNOLOGY BAD
MEAT INDUSTRY GOOD

>> No.13886155

>>13881036
>Go back +40 years and life was all about survival
>Implying an average person had to farm and hunt to put food on the table in the 80s.
Anon, I...

>> No.13886565

>>13886142
where did that post say meat industry good you daft cunt

>> No.13886578

>>13881375
but how did they burn 6 million pigs?

>> No.13886615 [DELETED] 

>>13880184
Eating bacon is antisemitic anyway so I don't. Not dome child killing baby rapist trump supporting bigot shitlord.

>> No.13886671

>>13885009

based arteger watcher.

>> No.13886674

>>13880184
Because the lack of protein and nutrients deteriorates the logic centers in the brain.

>> No.13886684

>>13884413
It's not really an argument. It's just exposing dumb vegans who don't know how to cook, eating ultra-processed foods which are worse "for the environment" (and often your own health) than just eating a cow. I've never really gotten into it, but it seems to me there are plenty of vegan recipes out there.

>>13886142
>THINKING BAD
>FORCED MEME GOOD

>> No.13886704

why must vegans and vegetarians be so fucking obsessed with avocado? It's like niggers and watermelon but worse.

>> No.13886755

>>13881375
>personally, I think it makes a great sound track to play on halloween to scare trick or treaters
Incredibly creative idea.

>> No.13886758

I just eat meat and vegetables.

>> No.13886867

>>13884710
You don't need to be personally oppressed to recognize that it's a bad thing

>> No.13886881

>>13886704
i was vegetarian for like 5 days and quite liked avocados, dunno why,

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13886896

Or I could just eat a steak.

>> No.13886898
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>>13886704
its the plant that most tastes like cholesterol. Humans naturally covet cholesterol as it is crucial for brain health and development.

Of course, avocado doesn't actually have any cholesterol.

>> No.13886919

>>13880184
Because some vegans like the texture/taste of meat but for various reasons don't want to consume meat.

Are you so brain-dead that you couldn't consider that? Fucking retard

>> No.13887056

>>13880195
they have so much empathy that they can LITERALLY FEEL the feelings of the animals as they are being slaughtered
it's almost as if they are being slaughtered themselves
truly it is the vegans who are the real victims of animal abuse

>> No.13887080

>>13885549
>DURRRR THE VEGANS ARENT EVEN EATIN THAT GRAIN
THAT GRAIN AINT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US
BUT SHURR IS GOOD FOR THEM THAR COWS I WANT TO EAT ONE OF A DAY LIKE A FUCKING TIGER
HYUUUUCK

i'm not even vegan
you are just so insanely dumb
i hope you like to eat sheep
because those are the only things you seem to interact with

>> No.13887092

>>13886898
this is shopped
also shes literally a child
you do not get to judge her actions
they have no moral weight
god kid haters are as dumb as kid fuckers

>> No.13887107

>>13886704
tons of healthy fats
its like the banana of "my body needs FAT ASAP" world

>> No.13887113

>>13887092

fuck off retard. 9

>> No.13887152

>>13887092
if she wants to judge me and she gets to talk in front of the UN then her words have some weight and can be judged as well, you want to bitch at people then get ready when you are also criticized.

>> No.13887191

>>13886565
defiance of the development of meat alternatives is pro-meat industry. you're the daft cunt here, pal.
being concerned about the ecological damage incurred by mass livestock farming doesn't instantly make one a vegan, let alone a vegetarian

>> No.13887195

>>13887092
>also shes literally a child
When exactly do you consider someone to not be a child?

>> No.13887234

>>13887092
>16 or so years old
>kid

>> No.13887236

>>13887092
>she is literally breathing out co2 right now bros.
>shes contributing to """climate change"""!
>she should kill herself t stop it lol
the amount of butthurt against a child trying to do good for the world is astronomical, pure partisan contrarianism
even if you dont want to be a vegan yourself or dont want to give up your gas guzzling SUV, her giving up those things benefits you

>> No.13887612

>>13887236
She's not doing any good at all.

>> No.13887697

>>13884761
>grow plants for human consumption
>humans can't eat most of the crop
>feed to livestock since they can digest it

It's not that hard.

>> No.13888599

>>13880399
B A S E D .

>> No.13888768

>>13880512
this ruined my night

>> No.13888790

>>13884734
>ex-abbatoir worker here
why does everyone think we are beating the cows for fun?
the feed lots I saw were not this "knee deep in shit" that everyone goes on about
now im sure that some places are really bad, I only worked at one so I cant account for the others
ours was a halal slaughter house, so one of the biggest rules was "don't stress out or hurt the cows" and we would be written up if we did
that said, some people did not give two shits, so yeah, it does happen sometimes

>> No.13888844

>>13884946
I was obviously talking about eating plant-based wholefoods vs. animal-based wholefoods
>also, leather and fur rots naturally overtime. Nylon and plastic haha good luck.
True, but so does cotton for example. Wool would be a good choice too since it's renewable

>>13885014
There are obviously some benefits in modern animal production but i doubt they outweigh the bad ones

>>13887697
Thats what i was referring to in my post but now they just feed the parts fit for human consumption to the animals too.

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>>13880327
>The opposite of "vegan" is "straight"

>> No.13889294

>>13880184
reminder that 3D printing vegetable proteins and colors to look like a steak is "perfectly vegan", but fishing in Animal crossing is "a murderous hate crime".

>> No.13889772

>>13880184
mental issues, otherwise they woulnd't go about their vaganism like islamic integralists.

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>>13880437
wow, I can’t even tell the difference!

>> No.13889820

>>13880410
It is when it leads to antinatalism.

>> No.13889976

>>13884413
Just accept the consequences of your lifestyle and get some fucking willpower.

>> No.13889990

>>13889291
Yes.

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>>13887092
I mean if she wants to act like she's more woke than the common man she better actually act like it. She can start by not eating industrially produced foods that destroy the environment through their production and distribution.

She has the means to take up land stewardship and produce her own fucking food. Is the change she wants to see in the world really people STILL going to the supermarket for 100% of all their own food? Are you serious???

>> No.13890122

Why can't they like the taste of meat but have the self control to avoid it due to ethical reasons?

>> No.13890738

>>13880195

The vegan diet literally causes brain shrinkage in the long term even when supplementing b12.

>> No.13890791

>>13889291
>>13889990
Hi, original poster here, it still works because its insulting a lifestyle, like OP is insulting veganism.

>> No.13890968

>>13880512
Based.

>> No.13891026

>>13887092
she is old enough to have a child

>> No.13891081

reckon its the centrepiece aspect of meat in a meal they're missing and trying to replace

>> No.13891091

>>13884252
>literally punishing yourself just to feed your self-righteous

>> No.13891102

>>13891091
>literally getting triggered over your inferiority complex

>> No.13891106

>>13883506
>meat eating isnt environmentally destructive

>muh nature

You're posting from a phone you stupid bitch

>> No.13891111

>>13891102
>vegans having the gull to call others inferior
LOL

>> No.13891114

>>13884597
This is just you ad libbing closeted homosexuality
No other explanation

>> No.13891187

>>13884358
A vegetable, yes

>> No.13891217

>>13880235
Self-hate

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>>13884413

>> No.13891630
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>>13880399

>> No.13891697

>>13885796
Dumb idiot. That's what you are at this point since you fail to understand. Most of the crop is INDIGESTIBLE to humans. What the FUCK are you going to do with the soybean meal that's left from extracting soybean oil? What the FUCK are you going to do with the sillage that can be used from the non-grain part of the plant?

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>>13880399
Do meat eaters actually think this is valid reasoning? Do they think humans consume the majority of soy and grain?

>> No.13892008

>>13880184
GOD Damn the mental gymnastic vegans go through WELL it's not technically meat but i want ti to look, feel and taste just like it!

>> No.13892184

>>13892001
Clearly a dumbass due to B12 deficiency

>>13891697
https://www.wifss.ucdavis.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Livestock_Production_Manual.pdf

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>>13886155
>the 80s were 40 years ago

FUCK YOU I DIDN'T NEED TO HEAR THAT NOOO

Also, checked

>> No.13893654

>>13880184
Oh damn. I'll be honest, i've been back and forth on being vegan for a long time but it's always so hard because meat just tastes so good. This is an absolute game changer!

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Kill your local vegan kike.

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Kill your local vegetarian kike.

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13893816

Greta KIKEberg should be assassinated.

>> No.13894070

>>13891697
>What the FUCK are you going to do with the soybean meal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean_meal#Uses_as_human_food

>> No.13894075

>>13887152
Imagine being BTFO by a kid and needing this sort of cope.

>> No.13894076

>>13893802
>>13893809
>>13893816
I'm sorry, sir, but we've received some complaints from the neighbours. I'm gonna have to ask you to turn down that BASED.

>> No.13894089

>>13894075
seems like a pretty valid criticism. If you are a public figure wanting everyone else to change their lives and restructuring the entire world economy. Especially given this public figure is meeting with the leaders of nations to discuss policy.

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>>13894075
You sound like a triggered kike. You literally sound like a desperate, seething kike. You're definitely a jewish kike and need to be gassed to death in the oven. You kikes all go into the oven now. Now, you all go into the oven.

>> No.13894095

>>13884710
>LGBTQBRAAP'
>BRAAP
hang on if liberals are pro-booty does that make me a liberal?

>> No.13894101

>>13884792
>>13884768
That's demonstrably false though, Stirner, reciprocative co-operation is an instinct primates evolved pretty early on as a survival mechanism. Not only is morality found in nature, it's a successful quality for organisms to possess.

>> No.13894105

>>13887092
it's pretty hilarious how fucking triggered boomers got by this one teenage gremlin going around verbally shitposting at them

>> No.13894107

>>13880184
>>13880184
this thread tldr
>VEGAN STUPID
>NO MEAT EATER STUPID
and repeat until thread limit

we really need a /ckv/ containment board.

>> No.13894114

>>13894105
They've never been criticised in their lives. They're used to just being accepted as being right regardless of their expertise on the subject they are talking about, so the suggestion that they may be wrong confuses the hell out of them.

>> No.13894120

>>13892001
We will be if we end meat, dairy, and egg production to appease the vegans.
Fact is, we're going to keep killing animals to meet our needs. It's an incontrovertible law of the universe we live in. All life succeeds by consuming other life, whether it be killing prey or driving out competitors for the same resources you're targeting. Ultimately, the food chain ensures you'll be eating the processed remains of a dead animal somewhere along the line.
Only humans are dumb enough to start assigning arbitrary value to other species not based on what they can do for us but on their own personal feelings.

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>>13894114
>>13894105

>> No.13894128

>>13894105
>>13894114
I find her annoying as well, but mostly just annoying in what it forces me to do as a reaction to it so I more blame the people who put her there

>> No.13894137

>>13894122
Race has nothing to do with it. Old people laugh and say she's just a kid, maybe she should listen to people who know better. But she's parroting people who know better. Old people don't know how to listen to intelligent people, they only know how to criticize people who speak against their preconceptions.

>> No.13894140

>>13894101
>eciprocative co-operation is an instinct primates evolved pretty early on as a survival mechanism
this is true. However I don't think that is what the poster is trying to get across. I think what he is trying to say is the human concepts of good and bad are opinions made by humans and there is not some absolute set of morals

>> No.13894154

>>13894137
shes a tactic to use an uncriticizable person, in this case a little girl, to put forward ideas that need to be heavily criticized. It is a pretty annoying and disingenuous way to go about things.

Especially given the vast exaggerations she makes and moral lecturing tone she takes

>> No.13894156

>>13894154
Try disproving the science instead of attacking a child who gets some sense of the science. You can't. How convenient that (((they))) have sent such an easy scapegoat for you.

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>>13894137
>>13894114
>>13894105
>>13894156
You literally sound like a soyfed liberal cuckold and kike. Kill yourself kike. You're a disgusting rat jewish kike. For the good of the WHITE RACE, you kikes must all be gassed to death in the oven. Die, kike, die.

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>>13894157

>> No.13894164

>>13894156
the science of Greta telling me that I have stolen her dreams and ruined her childhood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMrtLsQbaok

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Leftists are subhuman and should be killed. It's okay to run over leftists in a crowded street with a big truck, crush them into a bloody mess. It's okay to bring a gun and just shoot every leftist kike dead in the street. Leftists are born nation-wreckers and should be killed. Executed. Their lives should be ended forcibly. It's okay to grab leftists by their stupid fat faggot head and just twist, just twist their head right off. It's okay to crush leftists' skulls with a ball-peen hammer. Just hit them real hard, one hundred and seventy five THOUSAND fucking times in the head with a ball-peen hammer. Kill them all. No one is going to save them now.

>> No.13894193 [DELETED] 

>>13894171
this is a cooking board man

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>>13884233
awful b8

>> No.13894249

>>13894238
yeah, but most people don't eat like that

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>>13880399
>Unless you believe that somehow a cow’s life is worth more than a vole’s or a rat’s, which is totally stupid thinking as I’m sure you agree, you’re causing more suffering and animal death than if you exclusively ate beef, where you could easily kill only one cow per person per year.
Devil's advocate: the amount of leave required to grow the feed for cows is larger than just growing crops for human consumption.

>> No.13894495

Ah, I seem to have stepped in the support thread for grandpas coping with the changes in modern society.

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>>13894495
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>>13887092
>this is shopped
lies!

>> No.13894591

>>13884233
i don't like to eat bones and feathers uezs

>> No.13895255

>>13894156
i can. The entire mess of climate change falls apart if given even a cursory glance. It's a complete fraud and worse than that, it's a harmful one as it ignores actual pollution in favour of an obsession over Co2.

>>13894495
Like so many societal changes, it's driven from the top down onto a society against its will, being done for poor reasons and has multiple deletorious effects. You don't have to be old (not even 30 myself) to see that this has happened multiple times before, from the destruction of tram networks and 1960s 'slum clearences' to the widespread use and adoption of lobotomies, to socialism.

>> No.13895279

>>13887191
>cares about ecological damage
>farming to make and process plant burgers uses more space than cow burgers
Don't blame the entire meat industry for big agriculture/industry

>> No.13895349

>>13895255
I'll bet you fell head over heels for the COVID-19 hoax peddling your masters' were doing. Got news for you: This current stuation will look like a schoolgirl picnic compared to the effects of global warming! Enjoy!

>> No.13895367

>>13880184
>omnivores offended at vegans and feel personally attacked
>vegans just feel offended at the animal blood and waste of animal butchering
>omnis cry at imaginary offenses
Not everyone wants their house to be a slaughter house

>> No.13895378

>>13880399
The argument has never worked because every calorie of meat you generally purchase, at least in the states, are fed with grain. Beef requires more field space than just barley. It will never be perfect, but it is about minimizing cruelty. I also want to move away from factory farming in many forms to more safe for animals farming methods.

Again, the argument never makes sense because a pound of beef requires enormous amounts of grain to produce, so it's not grains or beef, it's grains or grains and beef.

>> No.13895777

>>13887092
how dare you!

>> No.13895781

>>13889778
if you ask me, impossible steak is better than real steak

>> No.13895793

>>13895378
A pound of beef can be produced with zero grains. Your comment is meaningless.

Besides the grains are ONLY fed in the feedlot for fattening up, it's not the cows whole life. And some cows are 100% grass fed.

Why do vegans even care anyway, when their hands are dripping with blood? Why do vegans pretend to care about animals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGHKr-NoqQ

>> No.13895809

>>13895777
How dare you get those sevens REEEEEEEEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gT9ZFcqegY

>> No.13896338

>>13880184
bc ethical reasons, not culinary ones
gee that was a hard one

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>>13887092
>this is shopped
No shit sherlock
>also shes literally a child
You should be upset with the people manipulating her into being their mouthpiece then.
>you do not get to judge her actions
Meanwhile she judges the entire world. Talk about hypocrisy.
>they have no moral weight
Hard to make that claim when she talks to UN and gives speeches at climate cult protest and there's a whole cult following with her as their messiah and when she's convinced kids to skip school because those old stupid boomers don't know anything
>god kid haters are as dumb as kid fuckers
You don't believe in God otherwise you wouldn't be such a hypocrite. Also, someone who hates kids barely harms kids compared to child rapists you dumb fuck. Raping a child is effectively murdering that person, their life, their spirit, their future. Hating a child, unless they're related, it's not going to do anything. You are 55 IQ retarded. Climatology is entirely based on false and doctored science, oil won't run out, a carbon tax won't solve industrial pollution or farming pesticides or pharma toxins.

Fuck you for making me post this.

>> No.13896395

>>13880235
They were rejected by their main relationships before social maturing, so find an unhealthy amount of solace with animals, until that becomes everything they are.

>> No.13896423

imagine all the suffering that animals are causing each other right now, animals are pieces of shit and abuse animals constantly, way more than even humans and factory farms do, fuck animals

>> No.13896474

>>13886867
You put too much faith in others to think that they wouldn't in turn oppress you if they acquired an advantage over you once you'd deconstructed your own. Leveling doesn't eliminate hierarchy, it just leads to the creation of a new one; it is thus at best painfully naive, and more likely a reflection of concealed desire to create a new hierarchy in which you occupy a higher place than you do in the current one

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>>13880437

>> No.13897753

>>13896395
>projecting THIS hard

>> No.13898150

>>13885002
They literally have no higher purpose.

>> No.13898155

>>13898150
>Implying animals belong to you or the human species
Theres animals right now living away from humans, small brain. The deepest extent people interact with animals is using them for money, and people can get money from somewhere else

>> No.13898739

>>13880184
>3D printed food
What the fuck is the composition of 3D food?

>> No.13898816

>>13894249
My family has had an annual pigroast for over 40 years.

>> No.13898831

>>13898816
40 years huh of roasting pigs? Wow, how many people are left in your family? Are there plenty of lil piglets to help carry on the tradition?

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>>13880184
>why vegans just don't eat real meat
while that IS the prevailing question, the OP and >>13880437 are meant to bring meat-eaters to the vegan side by giving us steak without giving us animal

>> No.13898844

>>13898816
t. subhuman filip*no

>> No.13898848

>>13898844
I'm as white as the driven snow.

>> No.13898867

>>13884761
>the animal eat the same stuff they grow for humans

most feed is made from soybeans nowadays iirc. It's more likely the excess soy used to feed animals is being packaged up and popularized for humans. The reason we're eating the same thing is because we're eating the excess meant for the animals

>> No.13899871

>its not like they don't like meat, its that theyre aware of the pain physically that animals endure just because we eat them and shit. its not like they dont 'want' meat. its that they just morally can't, its like they saw the 'meat video' about meat industry and they feel the same way for all the chickens cooped up in cages and cows being shredded for steak as they do the way they feel about their pet dog. they see them as animals. period. not a convenience/resource.

Then 2 seconds later they gas trillions of small creatures to death, (chemical pesticides on vegetable farms)
and gun down entire families of hogs and pigeons.

Veganism is a Anorexia cult. They do not care about animals, in fact vegans hands are drenched in blood of innocent wild animals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGHKr-NoqQ

>> No.13899875

>>13899871
Wow, thanks for informing me about this. It's a good thing that cows and pigs eat air instead of grains.

>> No.13899882
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>>13899875
>Just keep hammering those ingrained vegan talking points.

Is grass now a "grain?"
Are these cows in a "factory farm?"

>> No.13899883 [DELETED] 

>>13880184
at the end of the day, a mixed diet of meats and vegetables is what's best for you, it's not healthy to eat nothing but tofu and beans, neither is it healthy to eat nothing but raw meat, your body needs nutrients and sustenance from both plant and animal sustenance, sure, it's hard to see animals die, but it's a necessary evil and a fact of nature that you have to take life to sustain life

>> No.13899890

>>13899882
If the person farming the cows in that stock image expects to make a profit, he is destined to be sadly disappointed and will probably go to prison because of his debts. Land is much more valuable than that.

>> No.13900023
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>>13899890
Right the countless farms across the nation are all just my imagination. The cows I literally see every day? Outside, in the sun?

My active imagination.

>> No.13900275

>>13899871
GO ON KETO TO GET ANOREXIA AND TO GET SKINNY BUT DONT USE PLANTS TO GET SKINNY

Explain why it's okay to be skinny on Keto, we all know you're a dairy farmer or a beef producer trying to get extra money for your next imported third world wife.. or the next epstein in the making lol

>> No.13900280

>>13880184
Why don't you post the foking link?

>> No.13900682

>>13899871
>Then 2 seconds later they gas trillions of small creatures to death, (chemical pesticides on vegetable farms)
Organic agriculture.

>> No.13901059

>>13880399
this

>> No.13901121

>>13886142
And the companies that make fake meat must be wonderful people

>> No.13901477

>>13899871
this post was most definitely typed by old, wrinkled hands, keep deluding yourself grandpa

>> No.13901570

>>13901477
>Yes my hands are dripping with blood
>No I don't give a fuck about animals.

Everybody knows that about vegans already, but thanks for your honesty.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

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>>13881062
mind expanding on that?

>> No.13901729

>>13880184
why do you care so much?

>> No.13901750

>>13901570
That's wrong because 1) meat eaters still eat vegetables so the body count up until then is roughly the same and 2) animals are fed vegetation so in addition to the animal itself being slaughtered, animals still die to feed them.

You can do as much mental gymnastics as you want, but veganism and vegetarianism still minimize harm done to animals.

>> No.13901850

>>13880474
>>13880581
Honestly, this is partly due to the price I bet.. I prefer veggie meats for their taste but damn they are so much more expensive that I can't afford shit like a boca burger or whatever to be apart of my daily diet.

>> No.13901857

>>13880474
>things with a smaller market don't sell as fast as things with 10x the market
wow you're really onto something here

>> No.13901863

>>13880581
hurts to know that a majority of people still have the "flyover-state boomer" mindset, sure

>> No.13902077

>>13901570
>grandpa suddenly caring about the well-being of mice & lizards
Yeah, fuck off gramps. Keep deluding yourself into thinking that evil vegans are consuming anywhere near as much as all of the grain-fed livestock in the world.

>> No.13902097

>>13895279
>source : ass

>> No.13902121

>>13901857
>market

There is no market in this case. This is panic buying, and even desperate people are coming to the rightful conclusion that this is not proper food.

>> No.13902128

>>13902121
>Panic buying
So only the irrational and stupid are represented here? Vegans are smarter.

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>>13901750
>Animals are fed vegetation.

Did you write that so you could pretend eating grass outdoors under the sun is the same as factory farming?

If you care about animals ... Feel free to stop killing animals??? Are you going to do that???

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>> No.13902365

>>13902077
Say whatever you want, nothing can change the fact that your vegan hands are drenched in blood.

Veganism is a death cult. Vegans don't care about animals or the environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stfuoAgn-DQ

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>>13902128
You vegans are absolute geniuses. Stay the course and stay vegan.

>> No.13902481

>>13902353
>>13902365
>if I regurgitate the same delusions over & over again, they'll eventually work
You're not even trying anymore. Not that you have much material to work with. Hit that big, red X in the top-right of your screen and be quiet ojiisan.

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>>13902481
Just eat your vegetables and be happy. Do you have any news on the latest vegans to die? It's been almost two weeks since a young vegan died of malnourishment.

>> No.13902622

>>13902353
Their feed is grains. Grains are vegetation. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand that.

>> No.13902629

>>13902373
>saving trannies
You're one sick freak, boomer

>> No.13902636
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>>13902622
You are a recruiter for the Anorexia cult, and you call me stupid? Ok.

>> No.13902662

>>13902585
keep coping with the new ways of the world until you die abuelito

>> No.13902667

>>13902636
>I'm a drooling idiot and you call me stupid?
Yes

>> No.13902691

>>13884613
Of corse because if you tried to 3d print a full streak it would've perished in that time.

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>>13902662
After you...

>25 year old vegan activist drops dead
>Clutching scientific studies proving the vegan diet to be superior

>> No.13902707
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>>13902667
1.eat your vegetables.
2. Shut up
3. Die young so I can laugh at you too.

>> No.13902754

>>13885549
Vegans absolutely cannot handle this fact, they only try to deny it. This whole thread is proof of this.

>> No.13902822

>>13902700
>old man frantically upboating his own posts and searching "vegan deaths" on Yahoo as he laughs & wheezes maniacally

>> No.13902869
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>>13902822
Die with a degree of dignity vegan.

>> No.13902983

>>13881375
When I was researching into Islam, I found some pretty amazing things, including their treatments of animals intended for food:

>"The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade tormenting any kind of animal to death. Muslim also narrated from Shaddaad ibn ‘Aws (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has decreed kindness (or proficiency) in all things. when you slaughter, slaughter well. Let one of you sharpen his blade and spare suffering to the animal he slaughters.”

I also learnt that the animal should not be present near other animals when it's slaughtered so as not to frighten the other animals.

>> No.13903107

>>13880184
Because they are starving and crave food that will satisfy three nutritional needs
>>13880195
Starving people (vegans) feel no empathy. They are only concerned with staying alive. That's just basic science.

Veganism started in India as a fasting diet used for spiritual purposes. It was meant to help you starve yourself for longer without feeling so hungry. In modern times a bunch of spiritual leaders and literal Marxists adopted it to fool idiots and make money and power.

>> No.13903114

>>13894070
enjoy your processed shit food

>> No.13903119

>>13880184
So why aren't we putting money into trying to make artificial vegetables out of meat?

>> No.13903123

>>13880305
protein, not fibre

>> No.13903138

>>13903119
because there is literally no reason for that other than to coddle seething boomers?

>> No.13903186

>>13903107
>omnis - aware of how meat is made, don't care & keep consooming
>veg - aware of how meat is made, make the choice to refrain for good or until shit drastically changes
>somehow veg lack empathy & only care about staying alive

delusion, not even in a buzzword sense

>> No.13903226

>>13880184
Why are American "macho" personalities so focused on meat? It's legitimately pretty homoerotic and pretty sad that you have to CONSUME something to have an identity.

>> No.13903256

>>13895781
no one is asking you

>> No.13903276 [DELETED] 

>>13903256
it what a rhetorical question

>> No.13903283

>>13903256
it was a rhetorical question

>> No.13903321
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>>13903226
Can you name these macho personalities please?

>> No.13903330

>>13902869
keep coping until you die

>> No.13903351

>>13903226
>HUHHH MASCULINE STRAIGHT MEN ARE HOMOERTOCI SECRETLY GAYY HUHUHUHUHUHH PWEASE FUCKK MEEEE NORMAL STRAIGHTT GUY IM SICK OF ALL OF THESE DISGUSTING MENTALLY ILL FAGGOTS LIKE MEEE THAT I HAVE TO FUCKKKK WEHHHHHHHH LOOK ILL TURN MSELF INTO A GERRLLLL NOW WILL U FUCK ME PLEASE MR MACHO MAN??? NO??? WELL YOURE FUCKING GAYY!!!!!! YOU RE GAY!! YOU FAIODYG AOYSG IADYGIPADYGIADY GAYDGPIYDAGADYGAYDPIYPGADPI

>> No.13903363

>>13903351
Seething.

>> No.13903409
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>>13903330
I will for about 100 years. How long are you going to last pro-Ana cultist?

>> No.13903419 [DELETED] 

>>13902754
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feedgrains/feedgrains-sector-at-a-glance/
Corn is the primary U.S. feed grain, accounting for more than 95 percent of total feed grain production and use.
>grows hard breed corn to feed to animals
>"s-see, humans can eat what we are growing so it would go to waste"
no they would grow human edible crops instead

there are groups paid to advertise and research for industries, been that way for decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Institute#Stealthy_techniques

>> No.13903438

>>13902754
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feedgrains/feedgrains-sector-at-a-glance/
Corn is the primary U.S. feed grain, accounting for more than 95 percent of total feed grain production and use.
>grows hard breed corn to feed to animals
>"s-see, humans can't eat what we are growing so it would go to waste"
no they would grow human edible crops instead

there are groups paid to advertise and research for industries, been that way for decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Institute#Stealthy_techniques

>> No.13903497
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>>13903438
And all of those techniques are employed by vegan agenda actors especially seventh day Adventist industries, and processed junk food Inc like Kellogg's. All supported and funded by vegan troll farms like "physicians for irresponsible medicine" etc.

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>>13903497
>900 completely retarded radical feminist whamen, led by a man.

Wow that's exactly what Veganism/Nvxium cult is.

>> No.13903593

>>13903409
>>13903497
>>13903511
Imagine being over the age of 18 & still this deep into delusional theories.
back to /x/ with you, schizo boomie

>> No.13903722

>>13880184
Because they're just shit fad vegans and not actual ones. Shit like this and the impossible burger exist for people who aren't actually committed to their supposed "dietary choice" and only want to tout the label for themselves. If you're an actual vegan or vegetarian you'd have tried this fake meat crap once or twice just to see what it's about, notice it's inferior to the actual plants you're already eating for your diet (probably unhealthier too since it's some unidentifiable slurry grown in a lab), and never fucking care about it anymore.

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>>13903593
>When the vegans arguments are gone
>Just weak pathetic ad-hom

Just rest now Vegan. You are obviously exhausted.

>> No.13904043

>>13880426
I used to do all my own slaughtering but now I live in town, does that mean I shouldn't get to eat chicken?

>> No.13904044

>>13903997
>he says, after posting his thirtieth MSPaint-tier image macro
No batshit /x/ conspiracies this time though, you sure you're not getting tired?

>> No.13904300

>>13902983
that is a bit curious isnt it? it's just like how people are christian but have any idea what is in the bible.

I did say I wouldn't post it, but this one is a good comparison video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXmB9zsAQ_E

this is what people are paying extra for

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>>13886142

>> No.13904509

>>13880399
>Unless you believe that somehow a cow’s life is worth more than a vole’s or a rat’s, which is totally stupid thinking as I’m sure you agree
How is saying that a cow's life is worth more than a rat's life any different than saying that a human's life is worth more than a cow's life. And if you don't believe a human is worth more than a cow than how do you justify eating cows? By what measure are you judging the worthiness of each life? Or do you believe all life is equal?

>> No.13904523

>>13898840
>Literally a flip-flop
>Steak
Pick one??
I can't tell if you're shitposting or not anymore.

>> No.13904591

>>13880796
Kill yourself. Vegan recipes are shit because vegans are terrible human beings. There are, maybe, being generous, 3 or 4 vegetable which taste like anything besides watery dirt, and vegans are so retarded they won't even use them. I saw, with my own two actual eyes, an article about vegan tacos, and NOT ONE recipe included any kind of peppers or spicy anything. YOU PEOPLE ARE GENETIC FAILURES who evolved the taste of eating NOTHING because that's what your brain is convinced you DESERVE

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>>13880229
>>13880195
you retards are genuinely stupid. Shit like OP happens because they are trying to stop subsidizing meat. eventually meat will be too expensive for any goyim to own.

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>>13890791
>haha I trolled you
want to try your nuts to my fist style next?

>> No.13904654

>>13904591
t. flyover state boomer

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>>13891106

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>>13884278
this is the only answer, eating 3rd party products like beef through soy feed is degenerate as fuck.

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>>13887092
>REEEEE how dare you goyim criticize our hypocrisy
fuck off jew.

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>>13894114
can confirm as someone who hates sjws and vegans this is how boomers act. they have egos the size of balloons. meanwhile my generation, which knows less and is aware of all the plausible conspiracy and is struggling to know what to believe, has cultivated humility, and a garden of things that are great candidates for truth, and incredible nutrition to develop critical thinking skills.

>> No.13904708

>>13904687
This thread is war between vegans & boomers.
If you're neither then stop jerking yourself off & get the fuck out.

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>>13904708
>REEE PICK ONE OF MY SIDES THAT I CONTROL GOYIM!
no?

>> No.13904725

>>13904710
You reek of a boomer trying to fit in.
Never mind, continue.

>> No.13904749

>>13903438
See, if you would have actually read the first link, it literally tells us that you using lies and half-truths.

>> No.13904973

>>13884710
Stop putting effort into you shitposts, it's cringy as fuck, save it for read it.

>> No.13905025

>>13902128
>not even irrational and stupid people fall for the vegan scam

>tfw too intelligent to not be malnourished

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>>13904044
My stuff must be really good if I have my own ad-hom bot assigned to all my posts. Thanks for the positive reinforcement. I was going to give up on anti-veganism, but if my stuff is really this good I'll keep going! Try to keep up!

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>>13905188
Vegans really are beautiful thriving people amirite?

>> No.13905209

>>13905188
My stuff must be really good if I have my own schizo boomer bot assigned to all my posts. Thanks for the positive reinforcement. I was going to give up on veganism, but if my stuff is really this good I'll keep going! Try to keep up!

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>>13905209
You are probably not even vegan. Your posts don't even mention Veganism or the subject. But it's 100% you are some kind of radical faggot libtard. So seethe for awhile and kill yourself. TIA!

>> No.13905300

>>13905234
>p-please preach to me about veganism so I can m-meme on you & save it to my anti-vegan f-f-f-f-folder

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>>13905300
Note to mods- I am not paying this person to promote my memes..

>> No.13905399

>>13905365
>n-note to vegans... please... please n-notice me... hate me... it's all I h-h-have...

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>>13905399
If you insist .... I have plenty more memes obsessed freakbot. (Not all mine, just my favorite memes)

And it's pretty clear that you are not vegan, you never even mention Veganism or make vegan arguments.

>> No.13905450

>>13905411
>p-please... i'm practically b-begging... preach to me about v-veganism so I can tell e-e-everyone how annoying and desperate and G-G-G-GAY you all are...

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>>13905450
Wow you're not a fucking nutjob.

>> No.13905783

>>13903438
Are vegans illiterate because of their deficient diet, or liars, or both?

>What most livestock in the world mostly eat is grass and other forages and crop ‘wastes’ and by-products.

>... livestock rely primarily on forages, crop residues and by-products ...

>If not consumed by livestock, crop residues and by-products could quickly become an environmental burden as the human population grows and consumes more and more processed food.
https://www.cgiar.org/news-events/news/fao-sets-the-record-straight-86-of-livestock-feed-is-inedible-by-humans/

>> No.13905827

>>13905697
>haha... you fucking w-weirdo... check out 62/758 from m-my "i hate vegans so much i want to kill them all and feed them their own meat" folder... hahaha...