/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13777103]

Is craft beer an overpriced meme?

[Anonymous No.13777110]

Other than the M to F ratio that looks like a pretty adverage ass spread of people

[Anonymous No.13777111]

What the hell is up with that bar graph?

[Anonymous No.13777115]

>>13777111
Ask Corinne Winthrop and Katie Huss

[Anonymous No.13777120]

>>13777110
But, is it something that people have been tricked into buying? I've wanted to get into it but I don't want to piss away cash.

[Anonymous No.13777135]

>>13777120
stay away from drugs and sugar my dude

[Anonymous No.13777172]

>>13777103
>35-49
I dont think so
Craft beer is mostly a faggy millenial hobby as far as I can tell
Like avocado toast or french press/chemex coffee

[Anonymous No.13777203]

there is a lot of overpriced craft beer, but there is reasonably-priced craft beer as well. the increased price compared to macrobreweries usually translates to increased taste. it's practically impossible to compete price-wise with breweries that produce 100 times more beer.

>>13777111
it looks like the range of ages of craft beer drinkers

[Anonymous No.13777245]

>>13777203
But there seems to be no relation between the percentage values and the size of the actual bars.

[Anonymous No.13777257]

>>13777245
Of course not, the data doesn't fit their narrative

[Anonymous No.13777287]

>>13777111
Lol didn’t even notice til you pointed it out

[Anonymous No.13777293]

>>13777103
It is if you drink it for image. If you like it then no.

[Anonymous No.13777299]

>>13777103

[SUBMIT No.13777300]

>>13777120
>is it something that people have been tricked into buying
Shut the fuck up, retard

[Anonymous No.13777302]

>>13777103
That's one of the most poorly made infographics I've ever seen.
>the incorrect bar graph
>the poorly labeled pie chart with the male/female distribution in the middle for some reason

[Anonymous No.13777305]

>>13777172
>nuh uh, these stats don't align with my accepted stereotypes.

[Anonymous No.13777308]

>>13777120
It's just beer dude. You don't "get into it," you just go out and drink. You either like the taste of beer or you don't, it's not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.13777314]

>>13777103
do americans really drink meme craft beer that is overpriced?

>>13777110
only americans think its an average ass spread of people

>>13777111
do americans really ask about the bar graph?

>>13777115
only americans ask corinne winthrop and katie huss

>>13777120
only americans get tricked into buying

>>13777135
do americans really not stay away from drugs and sugar?

>>13777172
only americans dont think so

>>13777203
do americans really buy overpriced beer as well as reasonably priced beer?

>>13777245
only americans think there is no relation

>>13777257
do americans data not fit the narrative?

>>13777287
only americans didnt notice

>>13777293
only americans drink for image

>>13777299
only americans post that

>>13777300
only americans need to shut the fuck up

>>13777302
only americans make infographs poorly

>>13777305
only americans stats dont align with accepted stereotypes

>>13777308
only americans dont get into it

[Anonymous No.13777326]

>>13777103
If you buy it because it has zany cartoons all over the bottle/can and rick & morty references, then yes. If you buy it because it's legitimately good beer and much better than the Bud/Coors/Miller pisswater they mass market to boomers, then no. Pic related, an awesome brewery by me that has a great selection. They're much larger than they were when I started drinking their beer almost 20 years ago, but the quality has not dropped and they still fit the microbrewery model.

[Anonymous No.13777329]

>>13777326
only americans buy it for the zany cartoons

[Anonymous No.13777358]

>>13777245
it looks like they flipped the bars for 26-34 and 35-49. did you really expect accuracy for a picture like that?

[Anonymous No.13777386]

>>13777358
>it looks like they flipped the bars for 26-34 and 35-49.
It's not just that.The shortest bar is 1/4 the size of the longest one, even though the percentage value it represents is 20 times smaller.
>did you really expect accuracy for a picture like that?
Well, yeah. I mean, Excel will do that shit for you automatically. It's actually takes more time and effort to make up a wrong graph like that.

[Anonymous No.13777395]

The only thing I noticed about "craft beer" is that its all about trends and experimentation meanwhile Euros have been drinking the same beers for over 100 years and they seem fine with it. So yeah while I do enjoy craft beer, the entire industry is a bit of a cancer.

[Anonymous No.13777397]

>>13777395
>experimentation is cancer
Are you dense

[Anonymous No.13777402]

>>13777203
I personally stick with the reasonbly-priced craft beer which is like 10 bucks a 6 pack give or take a few dollars. Once you get into the $16-20 4 pack stuff I'm far less interested. Id rather just go to the brewery directly to get that stuff rather than at the store. Makes it more special.

[Anonymous No.13777405]

>>13777397
Yeah like I said people in Europe drink the same beers for over 100 years and dont care about experimentation if that means throwing all kinds of fruit in the beer to "experiment."

[Anonymous No.13777413]

>>13777405
Stagnation is death.

[Anonymous No.13777416]

>>13777413
Not when people drink Bud and Heineken more than any other beer. They dont seem to care.

[Anonymous No.13777417]

>>13777416
They don't care because they are already dead.

[Anonymous No.13777425]

>>13777416
The fact that there is a huge, viable market for craft beer that is present in any town over 2000 population says that a lot of people do care.

[Anonymous No.13777496]

more like

[Anonymous No.13777505]

>>13777172
french press isn't a meme, it's legitimately the easiest way to make good coffee

[Anonymous No.13777515]

All beer is an overpriced meme.

[Anonymous No.13777517]

>>13777496
kek

[Anonymous No.13777696]

>>13777172
French press coffee is a 90s meme
You don't even know what you're making fun of

[Anonymous No.13777803]

is it expensive at times? yes, are there too many IPAs? yes. but craft beer is overall good for beer and good for the economy, I have been to towns where I would expect the average person to work at a mill and drink molson, and they have local craft breweries, if you can combine them with restauraunts it creates cool places to hang out and makes your town more desirable to stop at for hipsters.

[Anonymous No.13777879]

>>13777103
i still dont know what the fuck craft beer is? is it just normal beer but with a fancy sticker on it?

[Anonymous No.13777892]

>>13777103
What's with that weird age chart.

35-49 years old are 41%, why is the bar for 26-34 longer? And why is 21-25, which is only 5% so large?

From those numbers, the median Craft beer drinker is over 41.

[Anonymous No.13777921]

>>13777103
Prior to prohibition there were 4800+ craft breweries in the US. The rugged rough and tumble pioneers who carved a civilisation out of a savage land drank craft beer and their wives and daughters could have kicked your ass to hell and back. Many of the founding fathers brewed their own beer. The tasteless pisswater adjunct macrobrews became popular after prohibition to satisfy the sickly men (with bone spurs and such) too weak to fight in WW2 and the women. Macrobrews, not craft beer, are designed specifically to appeal to feminized men and women.

[Anonymous No.13777923]

>>13777103
So in other words, normal people?

[Anonymous No.13777928]

>>13777103
This graph made me upset.

[Anonymous No.13777943]

>>13777405
Imagine being this ignorant about the history of beer in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot

[Anonymous No.13777947]

>>13777103
>here, have my lemon-grass-infused 60-minute IPA mixed with hints of lambic and sold in old wine bottles that we openly gloat about tasting like shit on the bottle and call you a pansy for not liking something that tastes like a bathroom after it's been cleaned with pinesol
>not your thing? How about my chocolate chai coffee oatmeal imperial stout casked in old rye whiskey barrels and infused with seasonal, off-season spices, none of which you can taste because we'd made its 19% ABV because imperial stout lmao
>oh, there's a new fad in beer that's come around? Bet you can't guess what my entire product line will now be
If these are what you are referring to as "craftbeer", then yes, of course it's nothing but a meme.
If you were talking about microbreweries like >>13777326, then no. Most of those people are just interested in making beer that's good, which is why it's rare to see them do some jackass stupidity like what I greentexted above. No one is immune to market fads, though, which is why everyone here in Texas is currently doing a pickle beer.

[Anonymous No.13777967]

>>13777103
nice graph retard

[Anonymous No.13778012]

>>13777879
Typically craft beer is beer made in much smaller quantities compared to industrial beer like Budweiser; there is also a greater emphasis on experimentation and flavor. There are also "psuedo craft" beer like blue Moon, cause while not as mass produced as Bud, are still made in larger quantities compared to very local small breweries; but that's the pendant argument.

[Anonymous No.13778035]

>>13777103
>posts a graph
>proves he’s a seething poorfag, brainlet
L O L

[Anonymous No.13778040]

>>13777386
They prob made that shit in mspaint homie

[Anonymous No.13778042]

>>13777103
What a terrible infographic. Why are the age brackets on the left so disproportionate? 5.4% over half 41.5%?26.4% significantly larger than 41.5%?

[Anonymous No.13778048]

>>13777103
Its not overpriced if you are ok with the price. Im not a poorfag so if im gonna drink beer its not going to be hillbilly swill like budwiser

[Anonymous No.13778053]

>women in charge of making graphs
lmao

[Anonymous No.13778070]

>>13777103

[Anonymous No.13778084]

>>13777103
>70% of craft beer drinkers are over 35
>they still portray him as a 20 something hipster

[Anonymous No.13778192]

>>13777172
/ck/ really hates avocado toast and I don't get it. There's better toasts out there but I ain't gonna say no to one

[Anonymous No.13778213]

>>13778012
So it's just special snowflake beer? Sounds gay.

[Anonymous No.13778218]

>>13777172
>Craft beer is mostly a faggy millenial hobby as far as I can tell
Based on what? You've clearly never gone to a brewery or a tap house.

[Anonymous No.13778264]

>>13777947
honestly a lemongrass infused 60 min ipa with some lambic in old wine bottles, minus the stone you're not worthy joke, sounds tasty as does a chocolate chai oatmeal imperial stout, minus unnecessary spices. thanks for the ideas

[Anonymous No.13778270]

>>13777302
>>the poorly labeled pie chart with the male/female distribution in the middle for some reason
Yeah I don't really get which percentages are suppose to what on that part.

[Anonymous No.13778274]

>>13778192
Things associated with millennials and liberals are usually hated here. But I agree, avocado toast is pretty damn good. Especially with bacon and eggs. Avocados in general getting hate is retarded. Anyone who says guacamole isn’t a fantastic dip is lying

[Anonymous No.13778280]

>>13777103
>enjoys biking and hiking alone
I feel like hipsters are more likely to do this in groups.

[Anonymous No.13778281]

>>13778274
I hated avocado before it was cool

[Anonymous No.13778287]

>>13778218
He's a faggy loser that doesn't go out. Might not even be old enough to drink. Definitely wouldn't go to a craft beer bar.

All the college kids shit on craft beer as well. They can't afford it and they want their beer to taste like water. Never see any college kids at the craft German lager brewery at the edge of town.

[Anonymous No.13778291]

>>13778213
it’s a beer for people who don’t want to constantly drink the same beer every time they drink. I love hamms and grain belt, but I also like getting craft beers once in a while. There’s nothing wrong with drinking craft beers and supporting a smaller brewery if they make a product you enjoy. A lot of people on 4chan would probably enjoy craft beers or any of the numale stereotypical things if they didn’t use 4chan and weren’t insecure about doing things that other people also do.

[Anonymous No.13778293]

>>13778274
I just think it's pointless. It's a wad of fat that tastes vaguely of grass. I want flavor if I'm going to have to deal with a gob of fat in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.13778295]

>>13778281
There’s nothing wrong with that, as long as you’re not just disliking it because 4chan told you to.

[Anonymous No.13778298]

>>13778293
Try guacamole with corn chips, it (usually) has seasoning it in.

[Anonymous No.13778318]

>>13778280
Naw. That's your perception. The reality is easy to see. Actually go out on a hiking path or bike trail and they're mostly alone. I should know, I'm actually out there hiking myself.

I get to see both sides, rednecks and hicks vs hipsters and urban. I'm an electrician in the PNW. Mostly it's just the former getting mad about the existence of the latter, going so far as to spend thousands on a coal rolling truck just to piss em off. It's real sad. Hipsters are mostly enjoying their life while these ol boys are angry, bitchy shitters.

Work in construction. You'll see that grown men gossip, bitch, and complain as much as office women. Petty shit like an electric car triggers em. They're also incredibly insecure of their masculinity, taking jokes waaaaay too far.

[Anonymous No.13778343]

>>13778318
Idk where but there was a thread about construction workers. They were insanely triggered over some anons suggesting they probably won’t ever make a six figure income, or even over 60k a year. I don’t even know how true that is but I was amazed at how many anons who worked construction got so butthurt over that. At the end of the day, you can do more with a 4 year college degree in literally anything than someone who’s worked construction their whole life.

[Anonymous No.13778350]

>>13777103
The bars are wrong on the age graph and the man pictured is younger than average. Also, I'm assuming that the 75:25 split is male:female, but it isn't specified.

[Anonymous No.13778360]

>>13778213
>local, small businesses are gay
Lmao craft breweries are one of the only things saving small towns nowadays. Everything is shifting towards mass produced garbage made in the big city, meanwhile breweries attract tons of visitors to smaller towns that would otherwise be dead. It's not "manly" to drink mass produced pisswater.

[Anonymous No.13778361]

>>13778274
>muh millennials
Anybody 20-40 is a millennial, which is 80% of this sites population

[Anonymous No.13778385]

>>13777172
How about you go outside you fuckin retard

[Anonymous No.13778399]

>>13778343
I dunno about that. My gross last year was 143k. Construction is full of skilled trade labour. That's where the big money is. You have to give up drugs completely though. Lots of testing. Hard on the body. There's some really smart people in construction as well, due to changing careers from their college degree related field.

You're so correct about getting triggered lol. The non-trade guys are especially angry. A lot of them are like a walking stereotype. Angry young men, very conservative and mad at the world for their place in it. I think they just want attention.

[Anonymous No.13778402]

>>13778350
Total beer industry is the ring, craft beer is in the center. That's at least easy enough to comprehend, but still shit.

[Anonymous No.13778403]

>>13778361
20-23 year olds are zoomers. 80% of the site? Where the fuck are you getting that info from? Also, even though probably the majority of the site are ‘young people’, the culture on 4chan is a hive mind that dislikes most things associated with young people, pretty ironic.

[Anonymous No.13778409]

>>13778360
Very very true. They bring in huge money and tourists. Breweries and local food movements are saving some small towns.

[Anonymous No.13778421]

>>13778399
>143k
Damn man, you have other avenues of income or was that all from your job? Do you consistently make that much every year or do you have good/bad years? Invest some of that shit if you’re already not

[Anonymous No.13778426]

>>13778360
I’m still living in my small college town until this summer and this is so fucking true

[Anonymous No.13778428]

>>13777803
truth. im going on a solo roadtrip this summer and i'll be stopping at craft breweries so that im not surrounded by feckless retarded boomers in every unfamiliar hamlet i swing through

[Anonymous No.13778430]

>>13777103
>Is craft beer an overpriced meme?
Other than in a restaurant or in remote village in some travels , I've never seen beer actually overpriced in any way. Stupid people might go to a bad grocery or fake 7-11 reseller to get ripped off, such as some bodega. Beer is pretty cheap stuff otherwise.
Craft beer can be made by the same people who make the mass produced brands, so if you consider that some form of cheating, you could call it a meme, but that's the reality.
You either like to have a variety of flavor, or you want clean lager (immature people pick on the mass produced top vs bottom brewed lagers as somehow being cheap or bad, which they aren't, it's just a style). Sometimes craft beers are utterly overflavored (in your opinion) or gimmicky/holiday in theme, but it's on you to have enough experience in what you like to consider buying it in the first place. You may or may not want lemongrass aroma in your beer, for instance.

[Anonymous No.13778453]

>>13778421
It's my first year making this much. I moved to the PNW and transferred to a local IBEW. You can easily make 40 an hour up here as a journeyman. Trades are good money, and they certainly are not for idiots. I started 5 years ago making 16 an hour, completely green to construction. Paid off my unrelated college loans in that time! Look into any and all apprenticeship programs. Plumbing HVAC machining tooling even just setting up giant machines is a great paid union gig! Be drug free, be on time, don't look at your phone and you're a good candidate.

[Anonymous No.13778457]

>>13777103
>41.5%
>shorter than 26.4%
>5.4%
>half the length of 26.4%

Lol wut

[Anonymous No.13778462]

>>13778421
Oh and I did side work for friends and family plus massive amounts of over time. The overtime was very significant in making that 143.

[Anonymous No.13778465]

>>13778453
If I didn’t go to college already I would’ve gone to trade school in a heartbeat. I’m just trying to get into data analysis rn with a non traditional major. Making 17.5 an hour working a healthcare tech job at a nonprofit. Not terrible but I’m really hoping to get to 60k salary within the next five years. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable goal ether. Still, your occupation sounds tempting. But I would have to quit dude weed lmao

[Anonymous No.13778481]

>>13778465
That doesn't sound bad at all for an entry level job. If you jump ship every few years you'll hit 60k I'm sure.

Lots of people start learning trades in their 30s surprisingly. People switch careers into it. I think the mode age for my class was 28. If you're ever looking to start again or make more money you have some great back up options.

The weed part hurts man. Some shops don't care but my union does. Once it's federally legal and insurance HAS to be updated to work with it we'll finally be free.

[Anonymous No.13778497]

>>13778481
What’s weird about the pot thing is I know a lot of construction workers smoke weed after work. I don’t see the issue as long as you’re not high on the job. Someone coming into work hungover and operating heavy machinery could easily fuck something up or hurt someone/themselves

[Anonymous No.13778510]

>>13777135
Sugar is fine just stay away from fats

[Anonymous No.13778522]

>>13777172
>>13777305
I think hes right, the bar graph seems to have a mistake on it. It looks like the 41 percent and 26 percent got switched.

[Anonymous No.13778530]

>>13777496
massive kek

[Anonymous No.13778556]

>>13777111
>>13777245
>>13777302
>>13777305
>>13777386
>>13777892
>>13777928
>>13777967
>>13778040
>>13778053
>>13778084
>>13778350
>>13778457
>>13778522
its shooped

[Anonymous No.13778569]

>>13778497
Yup. You're 100% correct. I went drug free in order to sell myself better. Get more overtime and calls to work. There's guys that smuggle piss or have others piss for them though. No electricians in our union, but I've seen plenty guys have "safety meetings" on shift lol.

[Anonymous No.13778703]

Ignorance is bliss. I'll stick to my bud light and save the cash

[Anonymous No.13778718]

>>13777172
jokes on you tough guy avocados make my tummy hurt
>t. millenial

[Anonymous No.13778720]

>>13777103
British journal of customer marketing is trying straight up to lie.

[Anonymous No.13779721]

>>13777103
>gen x and faggot boom booms make up almost 70%
>better post picture of faggot ass millennial
For some reason this really irks me.

[Anonymous No.13779729]

>>13778556
the bars are still horribly off

[Anonymous No.13779735]

I'm 24, I don't have any kind of college degree, I never buy organic foods, I don't bike or jog because that's for pussies and faggots, and my gook girlfriend is the one who introduced me to craft beers.

[Anonymous No.13779768]

>>13777172
This post sure triggered a lot of soylent chuggers

[Anonymous No.13779789]

>>13779721
Because it's shopped >>13778556
Craft beer is mostly a faggot ass millenial thing

[Anonymous No.13780226]

>>13777172
millenials are 40 now dude.

[Anonymous No.13780283]

>>13777103
I dislike craft beer and mostly drink Pabst

[Anonymous No.13780525]

>>13777103
if by craft beer you mean all IPAs all the time all day everyday hops hops hops then yes

[Anonymous No.13782006]

>>13780525
So dessert chocolate cheesecake beer is better

[Anonymous No.13782010]

Craft beer is getting its shit pushed in by seltzer

[Anonymous No.13782021]

>>13779789
faggot-ass millenials are pushing 40 now.

[Anonymous No.13782059]

>>13777103
yes. Craft beer tastes just like old socks but craftcuks will defend it and say that my tongue isn't advanced enough to experience the superiority of craft shit over any other beer but they are just kidding themselves.

[Anonymous No.13782099]

>>13778403
23 year olds are still millenials they were born in the mid 90s

[Anonymous No.13782451]

>>13782099
97 isnt mid 90s
If you were a barely sentient baby during the 90s you're not a millenial

[Anonymous No.13782487]

>>13782059
What craft beer have you tried?

[Anonymous No.13782488]

>>13777103
I love how the meme is that hipsters are still thin and athletic. They're all chubby fat fucks now from too much craft beer and not enough exercise.

[Anonymous No.13782495]

>>13782488
Hipsters don't exist anymore, boomer.

[Anonymous No.13782580]

>>13782488
And bald

[Anonymous No.13782677]

>>13782488
With soy tits too

[Anonymous No.13782727]

>>13782010
Different audiences. Seltzer audience seems to be entirely women, mainly club goers or barhoppers. Craft beer audience is all male.

[Anonymous No.13782745]

>>13782727
Apart from wheat beers and sours.

[Anonymous No.13783134]

>>13779789
Ahh I see now, makes much more sense.

[Anonymous No.13783168]

>>13777103
Craft beer is just a way to introduce variety to beers.

Not every craft beer is going to be good or even better than bulk lager but if you enjoy the process of taste testing or just have the patience to shift through tons of mediocre beers you will eventually find something that you like more than any bulk lager.

Whether it's overpriced is subjective. Beer is not a necessity so any money spent on beer is excess. If you're asking whether they're needlessly inflating their profit margins then no, producing something at a smaller volume is much more expensive. Whether it's worth it to you as the customer depends entirely on how much enjoyment you get from drinking it. There is no universal correct answer to the question.

[Anonymous No.13783195]

>>13782010
>Craft beer is getting its shit pushed in by seltzer
No, macro beer is what is losing to Seltzer

Blue Moon and Leinies have lost more volume to seltzer than there is craft beer

[Anonymous No.13783328]

>>13782727
>Seltzer audience seems to be entirely women
doubt

[Anonymous No.13783616]

>>13777496
lel’d

[Anonymous No.13783631]

>>13783328
sorry, women and gays

[Anonymous No.13784098]

>>13777947

I mostly homebrew desu, heck of a lot cheaper. Just read your greentext and kek'd a bit, in the autumn I sometimes do a red ale, lightly hopped, and try to use just enough chai tea to have a little hint in there. I dunno, I'm fucking tired of memebeers just for the sake of standing out - also kinda why I started homebrewing, but I got the idea and have done it twice so far.

Honestly, whatever, I'm not here to shit on people for making or drinking beer, I'm just tired of the billions of kinds of IPAs and whiskey barrels and doughnut flavoured beers and bullshit like that.

[Anonymous No.13784434]

>>13778510
I want to murder you

[Anonymous No.13784658]

>>13784098
Chai beer?

[Anonymous No.13784702]

>>13777103
No. There's really good shit to be found and enjoyed. The meme aspect of craft beer comes from the kind of faggot who "only drinks the real stuff". I love nitro stouts, session IPAs and would probably drink myself into a coma given enough La Trappe Quadrupel, but I'm also gonna kick back quite a few cans of Bud if the host is offering. And there's nothing wrong with it, ice cold macrolagers are a good fit for summer BBQs. You can enjoy nice things, just don't be a pretentious faggot about it.

[Anonymous No.13784716]

>>13777103
what is the other .5% of genders

[Anonymous No.13784731]

>>13784716
Trannies

[Anonymous No.13784793]

>>13778318
based post anon.

[Anonymous No.13784803]

>>13777103
>26 is bigger than 41

[Anonymous No.13784942]

>>13778318
Agreed

[Anonymous No.13784965]

>>13777120
It's more like they got into it because its a social event at craft beer festivals. You get a ticket, drink as much beer as you want and then you start to notice a lot of the beers are better than budweiser.

[Anonymous No.13784969]

>>13784965
Maybe I should try that.