/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13613971]

Raises price barrier and loses out on a regular customers.

Yea... tipper fags need to gtfo.

[Anonymous No.13613987]

this thread already exists, go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.13614139]

>>13613971
Based, wagies can go pound sand

[Anonymous No.13614146]

>>13613987
It just rolled off page ten, so of course the iPhonefucker needed to repost it because he has no life.

[Anonymous No.13614414]

>>13614146
>>13613987
>tips fedora

[Anonymous No.13614436]

based nontipper

asking about your tip is a form of aggression. you never know what a wagie might do after that. she's right not to go back

[Anonymous No.13614439]

>>13613971
cheap autists like you should just stay home and eat tendies anyways

[Anonymous No.13614445]

>>13614139
The wagie is the person most likely not to tip.
Never ever heard of a wealthy person not tipping in the usa

[Anonymous No.13614449]

>>13613971
Never worked as a tipped employee once in my life, but if your faggot ass can't afford to tip, don't eat out. What, do you people have a fetish about looking like stingy douchebags?

[Anonymous No.13614450]

What is the overall stance on togo tips?

Do you tip for a Togo order that involves you picking it up yourself? The cooks have wages, and the server or person at the register isn’t waiting on you, providing beverage or anything.

Sometimes I tip 1-3 bucks and sometimes I don’t, but feel guilty about it

[Anonymous No.13614454]

>>13614450
Fuck no, why would I tip the bitch at the counter for literally handing me a bag of food someone else made and wrapped and then sending me out the door

[Anonymous No.13614457]

>>13614445
It’s so easy to spot retards who’ve never worked in a service industry when you read posts like this one

[Anonymous No.13614459]

>>13614445
black athletes dont tip

[Anonymous No.13614467]

>>13614449
or....if the restaurant doesn't want people buying things with menu price then they should change the prices on the menu. they already are making a profit with which they can pay their employees

[Anonymous No.13614468]

>>13614449
If you can't afford to live solely on a job that earns gratuity, get a better job you fucking idiot.

It's not that I can't afford to tip, I just don't understand why I should reward mediocre to bad service.

[Anonymous No.13614492]

>>13613971
>be old man
>penis barely works, bitches still be hot tho
>only time this old hag isn’t paying attention is when I tip
>systematically tip cute girls more money than ugly girls or men
>wife notices pattern
>bitches me out for being an old dog
>tells me I’m never allowed to tip again
>bitchwhat.jpg
>been tipping since ‘48
>guess I can save money

>10 years down the line
>going to this nice breakfast joint for about 2 years now
>waitress asks why we don’t tip
>wife mad dogging me
>oh fuck what do I do
>tell her to leave a bad Yelp review, fuck that place
>still really miss my ham sammie brekkie

[Anonymous No.13614495]

>>13614468
what if the service is good though?

[Anonymous No.13614501]

>>13614492
cringe

[Anonymous No.13614506]

>>13614467
>I DON'T HAVE TO BE DECENT TO THE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THEIR BOSS ISN'T DECENT ENOUGH TO THEM

[Anonymous No.13614513]

>>13613971
If they actually asked if there was something they could improve on, I really don't see the problem. It's not like the customer was accosted. It was also probably the manager that asked, not the server. It's important to get that feedback if you're a business. If something is not working, they need to know so they can improve. If these people are too beta to confront them about service faults or too ashamed to admit they're just cheap assholes, that's their own fault.

[Anonymous No.13614515]

>>13614501
>implying boomers are supposed to be “not cringe”
Fuck off underage b& newniggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.13614524]

>>13614450
Never. I tip at restaurants. If a to-go place has a tip screen built into their credit card terminal, I never return to that place. Leaving cups or buckets is fine, whatever. But forcing you through a screen to give a tip is a shitbag move.

[Anonymous No.13614525]

>>13614506
>wahhhh take pity on me in a free market economy!!!
no. I don't donate my money to people based on pity because they get paid a small amount. fast food workers also have low wages and lots of other jobs

[Anonymous No.13614528]

>>13614449
>American restaurant prices don't iinclude the cut for servers
>American stores don't include tax in the price

You fucking retards

[Anonymous No.13614555]

>>13614528
>American restaurant prices don't iinclude the cut for servers

Are you seriously under the impression that restaurants typically pay out a cut of the nights profits to servers as a bonus or something?

>>13614525
>no. I don't donate my money to people based on pity because they get paid a small amount.

No, you tip them so you aren't being a stingy cunt lmao

Have fun with the extra few bucks each time you save by being a dick, I guess.

[Anonymous No.13614558]

>>13614445
Wealthy people statistically tip less than middle and lower class people

[Anonymous No.13614574]

>>13613971
Tipping is retarded. Period. If you tip/expect to be tipped, you're a dumb piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.13614577]

>>13614524
It's especially bad when they set the default tip options to 15%, 20%, or 25% so you have to go to the tiny menu at the bottom and manually input your tip.

[Anonymous No.13614582]

I mean, these people are willing to work for less than minimum wage with the expectation that they're going to get tips. Expectation is rude. I don't usually tip, and even if I do a percentage is stupid, I'll give at most 2 dollars because that makes up for your bad life decisions by bringing your wage to the minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.13614593]

>>13614495
If the service is good I don't mind tipping 20-30%. But I would say about 3/4 of the time it's mediocre, and then less frequently it's just straight up bad, because they don't give a shit. Why put forth any effort when you expect to get your reward in the end anyway?

[Anonymous No.13614616]

>>13614501
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.13614632]

I usually tip 10 or 20 rand

Which is like 70c to $1.50

As someone who worked as a chef, fuck waiters

None of the work for all of the praise

[Anonymous No.13614636]

>>13614616
Write a better story then. Or at least one that's coherent

[Anonymous No.13614648]

>>13613971
>order pizza on phone
>not a chain, from a local-owned joint that does dine-in and has a full restaurant with wait staff too
>nice pizzas, they're like $25 here for one 14-inch
>gonna be 15 minutes
>walk in to pick up
>pay with card
>spot for option tip
>I don't tip, I'm literally just walking this out to my car from the counter
>"Hey man, if you can't tip, we don't want your business"
Are you seriously supposed to tip on to-go orders? All he did was put it in a box. He's not even a waiter.

[Anonymous No.13614655]

>>13614648
Give them the finger and never go back. Unless you live in a desolate shithole, there's more options for pizza.

That or tip something ridiculously small like a penny.

[Anonymous No.13614664]

How has it come to this? Why can't you retards just increase prices by 15% and make tips optional? A national accord of chain restaurants would just need to agree to do it, then everybody would follow.

[Anonymous No.13614723]

*hits pipe*
I can't imagine or comprehend anything more cucked than tipping.

[Anonymous No.13614778]

>>13614648
Nah, I sometime tip a buck or two on takeout but that dude was 100% in the wrong and he should honestly be fired for saying that shit to a customer. Or he's the owner, either way fuck him and fuck that place.

[Anonymous No.13614789]

>>13613971
the fuck, you're expected to tip for milkshakes? I always thought you tip only if you actually go down and sit down and get a service.

when I go out to eat burritos do they expect me to tip?

[Anonymous No.13614791]

I feel shitty for waiters because often that's just the job available to college age kids and they get stuck in this loop of bad bosses not paying min-wage and extremely online tards thinking that's somehow the fault of the servers. I tip because I know it's not the fault of the waitstaff and their bosses are shit.

That being said, I don't blame this couple for not coming back. Now that the waitstaff knows they're not getting any tips from these people, the food quality for them is going to plummet. They're always going to be last in the ticket queue, the food will come out cold, they'll be given old ingredients, all that stuff.

[Anonymous No.13614802]

>>13614664
>Increase the price
>Pocket the extra money instead of increasing wages

Cheap illegal immigrant labor so good

[Anonymous No.13614839]

>>13614528
>>American stores don't include tax in the price
This is actually really important for keeping the public informed and aware of the taxes they're paying. Most people from European countries actually don't have a complete grasp of how taxes figure into the price of their goods and lack an appreciation for just how much of their money goes into taxation.

[Anonymous No.13614841]

>>13613971
Why do waiters whine so fucking much? They should only get maybe 20% of the tip at most. Rest should be going to the back of house aka the restaurant. Besides you’ll get enough tips that a couple not tipping you means you’re still making bank.
T. Former dishwasher, line cook, bartender and waiter

[Anonymous No.13614848]

>>13614146
>this mad over iphone posters

[Anonymous No.13614852]

>>13614802
The wouldn't happen if the government removed the exception that allows tipped minimum wage to be below regular minimum wage, which is an implied component of removing tips and just increasing the menu prices.

[Anonymous No.13614857]

tipping is theft

[Anonymous No.13614858]

If you are too poor to tip, stay home.

[Anonymous No.13614859]

>>13614467
That's not how business works. Go to a communist country if you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.13614869]

>>13614839
yep. anytime there's some outrageous tax on anything(like liquor for example) the cost is always conveniently built into the overall cost because people tend to rightfully get pissed when you're paying $4 for a product and $6 for taxes

[Anonymous No.13614875]

>>13614858
I actually agree with this, not in support of tipping, but if you're that hard up you should be cooking at home

[Anonymous No.13614884]

>>13614859
setting prices using shame and social pressure isn't very capitalistic

[Anonymous No.13614889]

>>13614875
that's generally not the point though

[Anonymous No.13614891]

they provided me a service for maybe a total of 120 seconds at most, tipping is never worth more than $1

[Anonymous No.13614905]

>>13614891
>oh, wow, four whole american dollars!

[Anonymous No.13614908]

All a waiter does is take an order and then later ask hows my meal. They don't even bring me the food.

[Anonymous No.13614914]

I only tip as a random donation, not by %. If I happen to have 3$ in change floating around in my pocket, they can have it. If it's 1$, or 0.25$, then that's what they're getting.
I like to keep my wallet orderly.

[Anonymous No.13614925]

>>13614891

I think it would be funnier and worth the cost to do that with a 20.

[Anonymous No.13614998]

This is how you tip

[Anonymous No.13615010]

>>13613971
I false flag as a jew whenever I dont tip and write something like "sorry but i cant tip gentiles :)" and draw a tiny star of David.

[Anonymous No.13615015]

>>13614998
>This is how you tip when you're old and your romance is dead.
*accidentally spills your drinks on your money
"I'm soooo sorry, sir."

[Anonymous No.13615017]

>>13614648
Ideally you tip for a service, like waiting or getting a hair cut. Though it seems most locally owned food businesses have an option for tips. I think they then divide that amount between all the employees. Sometimes I tip a buck, but it shouldn't really be a big deal. It helps the business a bit more. If the business is needing tips to survive then they probably need to fix their model.
That guy should fuck off. Write a yelp review about it, that will show them.

[Anonymous No.13615023]

>>13615010
Should just write you consider not tipping as a form of reparations for muh 6 gorillion.

[Anonymous No.13615024]

>>13615015
Being old and married and so familiar to each other that all the romance is dead sounds like the best thing in life. I want it so much but will never have it because you have to struggle through the insipid romance bullshit first.

[Anonymous No.13615026]

>>13615015
You seemed to have also spilled some salt there lass.

[Anonymous No.13615073]

I only tip when I'm dining in a proper restaurant and I receive good service. I also never tip by a percent. It shouldn't matter if I order something cheap or expensive. It's not more work to bring me a more expensive dish. I'll tip whatever I feel like.

The worst part about tipping is the whole entitlement aspect. Servers should be grateful for ANY tip. I don't know them. I don't give a fuck about them. I don't have to tip you 15%. I don't have to tip you at all.

btw LMAO @ dumb faggots who actually tip for fucking TAKE OUT

[Anonymous No.13615086]

>>13613971
I tip only because I know I've been fucked by the whole situation just like they have. I only eat out because of social obligations, so when it happens I have to order pizza or something I just tip a dollar. Nothing huge, but at least it is a gesture of good faith. Honestly though, I prefer to order from a place that REFUSES tips, even if they're getting rare these days.

[Anonymous No.13615202]

Why would you tip?
That's like going to McDonalds and choosing the pay $15 instead of $10, or actually giving money to that nigger charity the cashiers shill at whole foods

[Anonymous No.13615213]

>>13614914
Based autist

[Anonymous No.13615376]

>>13614648
You could probably get that guy fired desu

If he’s the owner, offer him the tip of your dick next time, if he turns it down tell him his wife was more gratuitous

[Anonymous No.13615395]

Doesn't it lower the price barrier? Wealthy people tip more often, which lowers the cost to hire servers, effectively subsidizing the cost for people who can't afford or are too cheap to tip.

[Anonymous No.13615428]

>>13615376
Wish I could think of things like that to say in the moment instead of in the car ride home

[Anonymous No.13615442]

>>13613971
>asked them if there was something we could improve on service wise.
More like some uppity waitress asked
>why dont you ever tip

[Anonymous No.13615447]

>>13615428
You could always just go back and see if that faggot is still working there and demanding tips so he can feed his amphetamine/opiate addiction

[Anonymous No.13615450]

>>13614457
lmao
imagine having so little insight you think the retard is the one who has never worked in the service industry

[Anonymous No.13615487]

I probably wouldn't go back either; I don't dine out so that strangers can get confrontational with me.

[Anonymous No.13615579]

>>13615395
>Wealthy people tip more often
laughingface.jpg

[Anonymous No.13615588]

>>13614513
They were regulars. If there was an issue, they would not be regulars. You know this yet you make excuses for bitches being greedy. If it ain’t on the bill, you don’t have to pay it. It’s optional. The bitch knew they don’t tip because they are cheap and tried to guilt them into it. I hope she got fired. Not like it would be hard to replace her or for her to find a new waitress job...

[Anonymous No.13615642]

>>13614857
Tipping is bribery.

[Anonymous No.13615705]

Tipping is against my religion. Rule of Acquisition Number 3, "Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to. "

[Anonymous No.13615711]

>>13613971

>Pay $30ish tab at a pizza restaurant
>Tip $3 because the service was pretty awful (never brought out the beer I ordered, put my pizza order in late, didn't refill our drinks) but I didn't want to totally stiff her
>As we are approaching the door, she stops us. I assumed we forgot something at the table.
>She starts questioning my girlfriend about why she only received a $3 tip (even though I was the one that paid her)
>GF is super uncomfortable with confrontation or just talking to strangers in general, so I intervene and immediately ask the hostess at the podium if I can speak with a manager
>Inform manager of the situation, server tries to argue
>He excuses the two of them, and asks if we can wait a few minutes. He comes back (without the server) and gives us a gift certificate and promises that we don't have to worry about any further problems with her anymore
>Apparently she'd done this to multiple patrons and he'd had enough of her shit

I swear to god some people in the service industry are fucking psychotic. I never went back to that place either and still have the gift certificate shoved in a closet somewhere.

[Anonymous No.13615716]

>>13614450
>giving the roastard money for handing you a bag of food
miss me with that gay shit

[Anonymous No.13615770]

>>13614450
For to go, I don't tip unless I really like the place, and the tip is "keep the change" which they won't do so I put it in that jar or whatever they have. Don't understand it but I don't say keep the change anymore

[Anonymous No.13615772]

>get sent by friends to get drinks at the bar all the time because they hate waiting and they'de pay for my beer with the money
>never tipped because it wasnt my money to spend
>constantly get glared at and sarcastic remarks
bar women are the worst with tipping, servers usually don't say shit when they dont get a tip but in my experience bartenders will confront you about half the time.

[Anonymous No.13615786]

I was deeply against tipping until I gor a delivery job. Tipping cured me of my antisocial behavior, and it's clear as day when a person isn't going to tip. You can see it in the life that they live. It is always obvious. If you dom't tip, you suffer in many ways in your life. If everyone tipped everybody for everything you could always get yourself a sandwich. It makes both parties feel better. That's simply the point. It's in fact so satisfactory and keeps me so stress free having this constant stream of polite behaviors in my direction that my life has improved in so many ways. I'm finally realizing a lot of my own personal goals. Tipping was theraputic. Society had left me poisoned and angry before then.

[Anonymous No.13615792]

>>13615786
tl;dr only unhappy victim complex losers don't tip

[Anonymous No.13615796]

>>13615786
Based LSD-tripping schizophrenic poster

[Anonymous No.13615798]

>>13615792
I'm reluctant to tip because it feels like giving into extortion. Not because I'm a "victim."

[Anonymous No.13615799]

>>13615796
It's not my fault that unhappy people are commonly obese, unkept, stress in their faces, etc, etc, etc

Bad people make bad choices and deserve the badness in their life.

[Anonymous No.13615803]

>>13615799
Lol nice projection there schizo. Maybe try not being 35 and working as a delivery driver for Jimmy Johns.

[Anonymous No.13615805]

>>13615798
I had the same opinion before I got my delivery job, had a hard policy against it. I had totally not considered the psychosocial benefits on an individual level as well as the benefits to society at large. To understand it you would probably have to get a delivery job yourself.

[Anonymous No.13615806]

>>13615798
>Hey kid, that's a nice sandwich you ordered
>Would be a shame if something happened to it
>Tell ya what, kick in an extra 20% and I'll make sure we take good care of it

[Anonymous No.13615807]

>>13615786
They're being condescending, and you just happily lap it up like the little dog you are. Cute.

[Anonymous No.13615813]

>>13615803
I make more money than you and run 2 businesses while I drive through traffic youll never be as productive as me

[Anonymous No.13615815]

I understand not believing in tipping, but seriously, if that's what you believe, then take it out on the industry as a whole by not going out to eat period. Don't take it out on the server by making that individual who is already at the bottom of the totem pole work for free.

[Anonymous No.13615820]

>>13615805
>work a shit job so you can understand the psyche of middle aged burnouts

[Anonymous No.13615823]

>>13615815
This.

[Anonymous No.13615825]

>>13615815
They still get paid.

[Anonymous No.13615826]

>>13615807
I deliver to a wide range of people

[Anonymous No.13615827]

>>13615813
Of course you do, schizo. If you're so successful why are you a delivery driver?

[Anonymous No.13615832]

>>13615813
>I sell heroin laced with fentanyl along with bottlecap magnets on the side therefore I am a successful businessman

[Anonymous No.13615834]

>>13615820
oh? do you not observe the world aeound you? I enjoy delivery so much I refuse to focus on my own businesses which make more money. Certain economic practices are good for the brain.

[Anonymous No.13615838]

>>13615832
>>13615827
i work from when i wake up to when i go to sleep

I can make money while I operate my businesses, in other ways, so I choose to do so

[Anonymous No.13615840]

>>13614450
Unless im a regular or are friendly with people who work there, im not gonna tip. Its to go.

[Anonymous No.13615843]

>>13614459
This is sadly true
My sister used to work for a very popular bbq place in Colorado. She worked there a few years and often did catering. Nigball players would call in and would try to get discounts because they played for some horse team that I'm pretty sure you've heard of. They'd tell the managers that they'd tweet that the food was great and they never did. Got hundreds of dollars in discounts and wouldn't tip my sister a dime after she set up and served their whole noggin' party.

[Anonymous No.13615849]

>>13613971
What point is the person making the cap/text even trying to make?

[Anonymous No.13615854]

>>13614459
blacks dont tip at all

[Anonymous No.13615855]

>>13615838
>>13615834
What a pathetic existence.

Stay in school, kids.

[Anonymous No.13615859]

>>13615849
emotional manipulation for likes. shes claiming that the wait staff simply asked how they could improve their service when the review states otherwise

[Anonymous No.13615861]

>>13614636
It's coherent, you're just stupid.

[Anonymous No.13615862]

>>13615825

Not really, no. It's like 2 dollars an hour or some shit. It is expected that most of their pay will come from tips.

Again, I don't blame you for hating the system. But the way you're doing it, you're not hurting the system, you're ONLY hurting the server.

[Anonymous No.13615865]

#NoTipsCrew

[Anonymous No.13615871]

>>13615862
By law they have to receive minimum wage at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.13615874]

>>13614998
This shit is from Third Rock From the Sun. Stop acting like it's some genius form of rebellion

[Anonymous No.13615878]

>>13615855
You know nothing about me your imagination is grabbing amything it can from my poorly described statements, which you're totally entitled to do because I won't put fourth more efforr and you sir are in fact a retard.

I live like a king and I'm easily in the 1% income bracket for my state.

I have no bosses and I do what I want. For example, here I am shitposting.

[Anonymous No.13615882]

>>13615861
schizo

[Anonymous No.13615885]

>>13615878
>I'm lying on the internet! Weeee!

[Anonymous No.13615887]

>>13615865
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.13615889]

>>13615885
genuinely my path to success would be very useful to much of /pol/

wish you boys the best of luck in finding out how to make life work

[Anonymous No.13615923]

>>13614848
That is at an amazon warehouse right?

[Anonymous No.13616031]

>>13614449
make me

loser

[Anonymous No.13616038]

>>13614495
the service is always supposed to be good

doing a good job is the basic standard

[Anonymous No.13616064]

>>13615815
>if you believe this
>you should believe this other thing instead

lel stay mad wagie

NO TIP

[Anonymous No.13616068]

>>13615882
Based retard mimicking others

[Anonymous No.13616076]

wagie

get my cart

[Anonymous No.13616096]

>>13613971
Obviously the service was not fine if they were getting harassed for tips. If it was me I wouldn't go back again either. Tipping is optional, not mandatory. Many countries don't do it at all.

[Anonymous No.13616115]

>>13614139
>>13614445
This but unironically. As a poorfag, I don't want to tip for shit, but if I were a big-bucks millionaire, I would literally throw out hundred dollar bills like I was lending out pens to college freshmen. I wouldn't even do this because I want to bring joy to the world; I would literally tip in hundreds just to show off my wealth and dab on the poorfags wherever I went.

[Anonymous No.13616117]

>>13615862
If (tips + wage) / hours != minimum wage, then the employer must compensate the worker with additional wages to make up the difference. The server will get paid no matter what.

[Anonymous No.13616122]

>>13613971
Based Angie

[Anonymous No.13616125]

>>13616115
This sort of mentality is exactly why you will never be a big-bucks millionaire.

[Anonymous No.13616133]

>>13616125
Jokes on you, I'm actually a big-bucks BILLIONAIRE

[Anonymous No.13616151]

>>13614925
this the emotional high and lows would be much stronger than if they just got 3 dollars less.

[Anonymous No.13616162]

I tip but I always ask the waiter how much they want. It's hilarious watching them squirm. They know they really didn't do shit to earn it so most will actually lowball themselves or say a tip isn't necessary with a grimace.

[Anonymous No.13616165]

>>13614593
this. I've smugly smiled at cunt waitresses giving them no tip when all they gave me was attitude.
I'm not sorry your life is shit, dont you fucking dare vent your bullshit on me I'm already going through my own bullshit.
I love it when they confront me too, because then i get to say to their face they did a bad job.

[Anonymous No.13616173]

>>13614632
this.
foh is paid to look pretty and be respectful and these loathsome cunts cannot manage that simple task.
i love getting a slice of their tips and getting in arguments when i say cooks need more.

[Anonymous No.13616176]

>>13615428
You're supposed to catalog hundreds of sick comebacks in your head so that you can pull them out anytime you need. Scout's motto; always be prepared.

[Anonymous No.13616181]

>>13616133
dubs confirms can you pay-pal me $20CAD?

[Anonymous No.13616191]

>>13615865
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

[Anonymous No.13616197]

>>13616162
I'd unironically love to see this done, as a social experiment or something. Waiters are such entitled fucks. Do you tip your mechanic?

[Anonymous No.13616203]

>>13616181
Pffft, I ain't NEVER tip, homie. Tipping is for SUCKAS.

[Anonymous No.13616249]

I've worked in food service and customer service where I made minimum wage and tips were like 30% of my income. I never tip except when I pay cash for pizza delivery and I gotta stop doing that too. If you don't like your wage talk to your boss or get a real job

[Anonymous No.13616261]

Can someone who tips explain to me why you don't tip literally every employee of every store or business you've ever been in? Offering a service is literally your job, why does a waiter deserve a tip for doing their job? Is being a pleasant person literally that hard for you that you think someone deserves extra money just for not dumping your food in your lap?

[Anonymous No.13616290]

>>13615815
If you don't like your wages quit your job. how the fuck is the customer "taking it out on the server" for not tipping. am I "taking it out" on the guy at the gas station making minimum wage that swipes my credit card for me by not tipping him? why is carrying food to a table and showing basic courtesy to customers considered above and beyond the call of duty for waiters that you need to receive extra compensation for it? if you think your wage is low why is the customer considered the one "taking it out on you" and not your boss being a stingy asshole?

[Anonymous No.13616318]

>>13614524
>I tip at restaurants

For bringing the food over? Why don't I tip them for wiping their own ass?

[Anonymous No.13616548]

niggers tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.13616561]

>WTF GO- I MEAN VALUED CUSTOMER YOU CAN'T JUST BUY MY MASSIVELY MARKED UP FOOD PRODUCTS AND THEN NOT ALSO PAY MY WORKERS' WAGES??? WHAT ARE YOU TOO FUCKING POOR TO PAY FOR ALL OF MY LABOR OR SOMETHING???

[Anonymous No.13616577]

>>13616261
restaurants pay workers less than minimum wage. the argument is to make meals cheaper. the menu price is lower, but with a tip it all evens out. it evolved into a selling point, because all the food "appears" to be 10-20% cheaper.
it became an obligation in america because of widespread adoption.

[Anonymous No.13616579]

>>13613971
these type of things are always bullshit. the tweet implies that they didn't directly ask about tips but instead just tried to be helpful and ask how the service was. in the review, the customer CLEARLY knows the the comment was about tipping. the tweeter is obviously being disingenuous about the conversation. even then, the review is pretty much true. they said the service and food were good, but that the server very boldly asking about tipping was a turn off. seems pretty generous of them not to use the opportunity to shit talk like "the food was always trash here anyway"

tipping is one of those things you should definitely do, but it's extremely distasteful to discuss. customers shouldn't make comments like "the service was great, i'm giving you a big tip!", that's awkward even if they mean it as a compliment. even more so, the restaurant shouldn't bitch about it, especially if it's a regular customer. server should unironically be fired.

[Anonymous No.13616585]

>>13616577
not in Canada where the practice is still as widespread as in the US and what states don't require employers to pay minimum if its not met with tips? That argument doesn't really apply anymore though if you just mean that's why the practice started, sure. hasn't really applied for over a decade though

[Anonymous No.13616594]

>>13616585
> what states don't require employers to pay minimum if its not met with tips?
same goes for cops not having quotas.
if everyone else is earning enough to get by, but you aren't, then there's something wrong with you, and your job will be on the chopping block.
like how a cop who writes fewer tickets will be punished by his superiors.
it's not explicit, but that's how the game works.

[Anonymous No.13616601]

>>13616594
okay, fair enough. I still don't accept that obligates the customer in any way though. of course if a business is exploiting its workers in a clear way you should rethink giving them your business but then it goes back to the question of should I tip literally everyone who makes minimum wage?

[Anonymous No.13616603]

>>13616261
the custom is pretty weird. you tip at a sit down full service restaurant, you don't tip at a restaurant where you order at a counter even if they then bring the food out to you when its ready. always tip for food delivery to your house. restaurants have gotten jewish and now basically any credit card receipt has a line for a tip to be added even if you drove to a restaurant and waited in line for take out, but nobody with any self respect tips for food unless it's full service/waiter experience.

only exception to this is a bar, where it's customary to tip even if you have to walk up to the bar, wait for a drink, and then take it back to your seat yourself. even if they're literally just pulling a lever on the beer draft spout and not making you some fancy cocktail, you're expected to tip, it's pretty bullshit. some people tip at coffee shops too, but i don't, shit is expensive enough, especially if it's some big corporate chain like starbucks.

you're also supposed to tip some non-food stuff. tipping for a hair cut and tipping for movers (like the guys who load/unload your shit on a moving truck) are probably the most common. some people tip like a plumber or other types of maintenance people, but I think that's less expected

yes it's retarded, no the rules don't make any sense beyond "everyone tips here, they expect a tip, you're a jerk if you don't tip". on the bright side, if you don't care about being a jerk, shit is pretty cheap

[Anonymous No.13616623]

>>13616601
i agree that it is unfortunate. you only "have to" tip food service workers. you "can tip" literally anyone if you like how they work and want them to give you preferential treatment. outside of restaurants, it's effectively a bribe.
tip your barber so he takes extra time on your haircut. tip the bartender so he takes your drink order before anyone else's. tip the valet so he takes care of your car.

in food service, "we" are fucked because of the choices restaurant owners made around a century ago. the only way it could be fixed would be an entire systemic change-- that is to say i do not think it will ever be fixed.
restaurant owners would have to decide to pay their workers full wages, and instruct customers to only tip if they want to. more often than not, waiters would not want this, because in busy restaurants they often make substantially more than minimum wage through tips.

[Anonymous No.13616665]

>>13614492
Kek; enjoyed this

[Anonymous No.13616669]

It's not my responsibility to subsidize your labor costs. Pay your damn workers what they need yourself, I'm not playing guilt games.

[Anonymous No.13616683]

>>13614492
start tipping cute boys instead, she cant bitch if she doesnt suspect a thing
i left a 50 for this hottie and all i had was a coffee and a sandwich, i like to watch his ass when he presses down my french coffee

[Anonymous No.13616702]

>>13616683
Kek, gay old men are huge tippers if you’re a young good looking guy, my friend (waiter, duh) has definitely learned this. He says if it’s two gay guys though, it’s usually a fairly normal tip.

[Anonymous No.13616704]

>>13614648
fuck no. never tip for food unless it's delivery or there's a waiter who takes your order/refills your drinks/busses your table. if you have to go up to a counter for anything, whether it's ordering or picking up your food, then the servers aren't real waiters and you don't have to tip just like you wouldn't tip at mcdonalds.

[Anonymous No.13616709]

>>13614648
>here's a tip: GET A REAL JOB

[Anonymous No.13616722]

>>13616623
>>13616603
>>13616601
>>13616594
>>13616585
The only way tipping would make sense (the way our current capitalist system works) is if waiters/waitresses were literally freelance and required not being employed at the restaurant, and therefore the people “serving” you were only being paid by you (the customer).
Because that’s not how shit works, the cost of employment should be covered by the employer, and since the customer is not the employer, the idea of a customer contributing towards wages (beyond actually paying for services rendered) is absolutely ridiculous. The unfortunate part of this is that, to compensate for having to pay more for employees, the employer would either have to hire less employees (increase in unemployment AND shittier service), or simply charge people more money for the food.
This is, of course, assuming the profits are relatively low and the people at the top of the ladder aren’t making money hand over foot, but typically they are, so realistically all that would be required is to actually pay the workers the appropriate wage. Unfortunately, when there’s a state minimum, this destroys all senses of “supply/demand” in the free market and completely upsets any natural order that could possibly exist within businesses.

[Anonymous No.13616743]

you guys need to understand tipping is a self regulating system, it rewards people who tip well and incentivizes good service in return based off perceived compensation. There is no hard minimum, but it's a standard courtesy to leave a tip for good service, and a better tip for outstanding service.

Why? Because it enforces the feedback loop. Good service stays good because the incentive never goes away, the employee is always going to work for the tip which benefits both parties because the employee eventually works his way up to making bigger tips and really cashing out. It's a win win.

Also I can't tell you how many times I've dined abroad and just been totally appalled at the amount of time I had to wait to see a waiter or staff member. Yes I've had good service some places but a lot of places I felt abandoned at my table. I gladly left zero tip, they clearly didn't deserve anything.

Now some may not prefer to be annoyed and would rather just play a flat fee regardless, but that is simply not how it works here. These jobs are low skill as it is, by keeping them tip restricted, they shift the burden of performance from the company to the employee. This is a benefit to both the employee and the company because it allows both to control their own destiny. If the employees provides good service, he will get tipped accordingly, which will result in the customer coming back which rewards the company owner.

It's just the most logical system. People hate it because they don't understand it, and they take personal offense to it when it has a time and a place. Really your parents should have taught you anytime someone does something small for you with their hands, like bring your bags up to your room, park your car, clean your shoes, cut your hair, rub your dick, you tip them. It's just the bare minimum if we are trying to be polite.

I hope everyone understands now and has a better idea of why the tipping system is superior and still exists.

[Anonymous No.13616753]

>>13613971
>>13614841
Can confirm that waiters are usually the most annoying fuckers in a restaurant who often do the least amount of work overall. Once worked at a restaurant where the average server made $40/hr and only worked two or three days a week and if someone tipped less than 20% we'd hear about it all night.

Also most of the times when servers are going above and beyond, it's usually from annoying the fuck out of BoH

[Anonymous No.13616758]

>>13616702
I'm not fucking old
You are probably older than me, the average poster here is middle aged and divorced

[Anonymous No.13616763]

>>13616758
Ok gramps

[Anonymous No.13616765]

>>13616758
You realize my greentext was supposed to imply I was the old guy in the OP’s story, right?
If you’re younger than me, you need to get right on the GTFO train

[Anonymous No.13616772]

>>13616743
This actually makes a lot of sense, and I never really thought of it that way. It stands to reason that this is why performance and expectations at fast-food restaurants are so much lower than at a regular restaurant.

This just pushes me further to my idea though
>>13616722
By issuing a “minimum wage” you are destroying the natural order of waiters/waitresses being paid dog shit so that they actually work for their money. If you implemented the same system you described at every business, performance would skyrocket across the board. You’re essentially describing why laissez-faire economics WORK, and it even points to the ideas of why our shitty socialist-modulated-capitalism is lending to poor performance in work places across the country.

[Anonymous No.13616781]

>>13616722
>This is, of course, assuming the profits are relatively low and the people at the top of the ladder aren’t making money hand over foot

the people at mcdonalds hq are doing fine, but the individual restaurants have razor thin margins that aren't that profitable for the owner. i don't know about "real" fine dining restaurants with waiters and shit, but the average owner of a fastfood franchise only makes like 50k/year. i find it hard to believe a fastfood restaurant with a constant stream of people all day using the absolute cheapest possible food is doing much better than your average "nice" restaurant that is only even remotely busy friday/saturday nights and has to deal with purveyors/rent in a swanky part of town/a couple employees making way above minimum wage like the GM, chef, and bartender/etc.

[Anonymous No.13616791]

I don't make enough money to eat good food AND tip, simple as. Don't care about this perceived waitress/waiter struggle cause I'm in a struggle myself and I'm convinced most of them actually make a lot of money, more than I do and when the tips slow down and they start seeing their base wage they get mad and self entitled. I'm not going to live off cold hotdogs because I can't tip so serve that hot lunch wagie.

[Anonymous No.13616792]

>>13616772
I have never had a problem with the performance of any waiter in any restaurant I've been to and nobody tips here. What's so special about Americans that you need a carrot visibly dangled in front of you before you understand do your job?

[Anonymous No.13616794]

>>13616781
Yes, im very aware that the economical situation of a single restaurant is vastly different than a corporation. I wasn’t trying to sandbag small businesses in with all of the big boys out there. If anybody wants a business to succeed, especially a small one, contributions go a long way. Just don’t expect the waiter to go give your $100 to the manager.

[Anonymous No.13616797]

>>13616772
it's not like with minimum wage, the server has a job for life and don't have to try any more, they'll still assumedly get canned if they're a shitty server and therefore bad for business. scrutiny might be even higher if the owner is having to sink more money into them.

besides, in my experience, people 99% of the time stick to 15-20% tip regardless of service. unless the server is straight up rude, most people i know don't stiff a waiter, even if they aren't the most attentive or are pretty slow. like-wise, i don't think i've ever been in a situation where me or someone i was eating with said "you know, they were pretty fast on the refills, i'm bumping them up to 30% tonight!". tipping is already treated as basically a flat rate that you just throw on every meal, why not just fucking codify it?

[Anonymous No.13616809]

>>13616792
Because we are the richest country on earth. People here have an idea of entitlement that absolutely does not belong in the 21st century, especially considering the tight ropes our civilization is walking on concerning natural resources.
That being said, knowing (as a dumb, young, entitled little retard) that if all you have to do is the bare minimum and not get fired to get paid, then you may as well do the bare minimum.
This trend in US society, where the idea of “do the bare minimum, as long as you keep your job” is something that has spread like wildfire among young people, and as a young person myself, it’s truly disgusting and embarrassing to me that millions of people are doing their job like shit, up to and including people paying tens of thousands of dollars to attend (((university))) in order to just treat uni like a post-high school party locator.

[Anonymous No.13616821]

>>13616797
Because people are going to go to as many restaurants knowing that there’s 10-15% tacked on to it as a requirement, it’s the same thing that incentivizes people to avoid deliveries and the idea behind the sin tax for tobacco/alcohol that supposedly incentivizes people into not buying it as much.

[Anonymous No.13616829]

>>13616791
for some in this thread, in their utopia where there is no tipping and everything is a flat fee and the workers get 15 an hour you DEFINITELY won't be able to eat good food, ever

[Anonymous No.13616848]

>>13616821
>Because people are going to
Supposed to be
>because people are NOT going to

[Anonymous No.13616851]

>>13616829
You can already get good food at a fast food or takeout place that dont operate by tips. The waiter doesn't cook your food either so them getting no tips doesn't affect the foods quality.

[Anonymous No.13616855]

>>13616851
were talking about sitting down and actually eating a meal, not fast food

by all means eat all the fast food you want, there is a reason there is no tipping in that game

[Anonymous No.13616889]

It's wrong that some late 20's broad can make a living as a waitress. 150 dollars a week by their employer, 3-600 a week in untaxed tips, they get amazing tax returns every year cause they're poorfags on the books but are actually making more than someone working a dangerous physical job. It's a failed system.

[Anonymous No.13616893]

>>13616855
We're talking about tipping waiters, who usually are the first to whine about tipping out back of house, so what does tipping your waiter have to do with the quality of the food?

[Anonymous No.13616898]

its almost always women and fags who complain about not receiving a high tip. being a waiter in general is not something a sane man would do. so you get mentally unstable and highly entitled cunts and fags complaining about % points. this is why the poor are looked down upon, always complaining.

[Anonymous No.13616944]

>>13614449
Or maybe these bums should get a job where they don’t basically work for free.
They should ask their boss for tips, not their customers

[Anonymous No.13617075]

>>13614468
how black are you?

[Anonymous No.13617083]

>>13616889
>what trust fund cucks actually believe

[Anonymous No.13617112]

>>13614998
>Do your job.
>fuck up with bread
>Woops, gonna get bread and some extra to make up for the fuck up.
>This fucking clown car person think its because he's treating his server like a dancing monkey.
I'm not 100% sure if its a baby boomer, but I'm just going to pretend that it is.

[Anonymous No.13617114]

>>13614998
wow, 5 whole american dollars. Do it with 20s next time for some real fun.

[Anonymous No.13617126]

>>13614998
>>13617114
>"Sir, you're free to use your own, but we do provide napkins here.

[Anonymous No.13617134]

>>13615770
because that makes you a cheap jew, it's worse than not tipping at all because it's a trivial amount, so you didn't forget, you're just giving them a really small tip.

[Anonymous No.13617146]

>>13616722
yeah, I want to be able to rent a food safety certified, insured and bonded valet by the hour and have him serve me at any restaurant I go to

[Anonymous No.13617150]

>>13614436
Once I ate with my gf at a restaurant. I only had enough cash on hand to pay the bill, not tip. So I paid the bill and we left. I had walked about a block when either the owner or manager chased us down demanding to know why I hadn’t left a tip. I said I didn’t have enough cash to leave a tip. What a psycho. I don’t have to leave a tip. Never went back.

[Anonymous No.13617152]

The expectation of a tip keeps me from eating at restaurants at all. At most I'll order sushi for this one place I like, order less than $20 of food and leave a $20. Everywhere else can fuck themselves, pay your workers assholes

[Anonymous No.13617161]

>>13614925
>>13616151
>overweight early-40s couple sniggering with their phones pressed up against the window trying to record the moment the server collects the tip
>they just pocket it and wipe down the table
What did you expect, a fucking victory dance?

[Anonymous No.13617171]

>>13613971
>waiter gives me the wrong order
>late
>and cold
>ask for a coffee just before i ask for the bill
>spill the coffe on the table
>sprinkel some sugar on top
>stick a single on my masterpiece
here is your tip

[Anonymous No.13617175]

>>13617150
That is illegal. You should have called the police.

[Anonymous No.13617190]

>>13617171
>shit that never happened
Nice power fantasy, dweeb.

[Anonymous No.13617206]

>>13617190
I did that
dad got so angry he refused to have lunnch with me for a year

[Anonymous No.13617320]

>>13614839
>He can't even read a receipt.

[Anonymous No.13617347]

>>13617146
There truly is no ideal in our current world concerning true laissez-fair economics, we are consistently bounded by rules and regulations to abide by certain practices that disable the consumer and enable the businesses to do literally whatever they want whenever they want. Sure, there are many regulations that must be followed by the business, but this just supports the enabling of businesses to do what they want whenever a government employee isn’t breathing down their necks, and the government doesn’t have the money to employ that large of a work force.
Truly, all of the rules and regulations surrounding us only make us more complacent in our beliefs that businesses will maintain and abide by moral business practices, but there are many cases and many situations where this is obviously not true. The government has attempted to emulate the idea of an “informed public” in laissez-faire economics by setting up many rules and regulations, but instead set the public up to be ignorant 99% of the time such that many businesses work around the rules and regulations in order to profit more, and unless some watchful eye is able to catch this occurring and bring it to public view, the unethical business practice may not be able to be stopped for many years.

[Anonymous No.13617353]

>>13617347
God, you sound almost as retarded as a communist.

[Anonymous No.13617378]

>>13617353
You are an extremist, not everyone want a fully unregulated market or a totally regulated market.

[Anonymous No.13617388]

>>13617353
Communism is definitely far more retarded than what I wrote, if you think what I wrote is anything as retarded as communist, you should probably go drink the fun looking bottles under the sink, or whatever else retards do to kill themselves.

[Anonymous No.13617406]

>>13617388
No, I want to live and see what morons like you do to the world. Will you understand your error or will you double down on cognitive dissonance? My money is on the latter.

[Anonymous No.13617431]

>never eat out
>server loses job because there's no one to wait on
>restaurant dies

mission accomplished

[Anonymous No.13617441]

>>13616683
Go on

[Anonymous No.13617454]

>>13617406
He’s brining up some very basic and well established ideas in economics. What is so dumb about that?

[Anonymous No.13617499]

>>13615786
>you could always get yourself a sandwich
But then you would also have to tip.

[Anonymous No.13617519]

>>13617175
which law is it violating

[Anonymous No.13617524]

>>13614449
i dont want service so i will not pay for service
id rather pick up the food from the kitchen myself

[Anonymous No.13617532]

>>13614436
>tfw I behead the waitress with my McKatana after she broke the NAP by asking why I do not tip

[Anonymous No.13617535]

>>13613971
>"We just asked them about our service, we swear!"
>"Just look at this evil review they put up that clearly shows we a lying and our greedy cunt worker harassed the couple."
I mean, what did they think this outcome would be?

[Anonymous No.13617841]

The only reason why tipping is STILL a thing is due to boomers with poor business skills that want to be a business owner because that's the american dream.
If they couldn't rely on tipping to provide an adequate service leads them to go out of business it's not some crazy overarching socioeconomic circumstances that are at fault but instead the fact that they can't run a business in the first place. If tipping was abolished you wouldn't see an increase in prices, what you would see is a holocaust of shitty restaurants and food joints. And while the demand for eating out wouldn't change, the few places that can run a place would see an increase in customers and thus due to rising demand they could either raise prices without losing customers or satisfy everyone at the same prices.
In summary tipping culture is the same as bank bailouts.

[Anonymous No.13617921]

>>13615843
did your sister get blacked?

[Anonymous No.13618088]

Lmao, do americans REALLY? Fucking pussies, why the fuck would I pay to someone who's already has a work in the place where I'm eating? Can any of you fat mutts explain it to me?

[Anonymous No.13618095]

>>13617921
Mutt's law, like clockwork, every fucking time

[Anonymous No.13618139]

>>13618088
because servers here can be nasty cunts and they will spit in your food if you come back after not tipping

most of the time its just giving into social pressure.

[Anonymous No.13618150]

>>13616893
fast food workers aren't waiters you dumb fucking retard

[Anonymous No.13618154]

>>13618139
The absolute state of the land of the freedom, lmao

[Anonymous No.13618183]

>>13617532
>implying there's tipping under AnCap

[Anonymous No.13618199]

>>13618183
Why not? Dome places might have it, some not, it's up to owner to decide

[Anonymous No.13618204]

>>13618154
you have any other input or are you going to spout memes like an /int/ranny

[Anonymous No.13618219]

>>13614852
then you're putting people at the mercy of retarded minimum wage laws where they are overpaid for doing monkey work and lose their job as a result

it's much more cost effective to get an ipad and a food runner than it is to keep team of employees making 15 an hour to punch items into the ipad themselves
hand it to the customer, cut out the middle man

[Anonymous No.13618225]

>>13615815
>waiters are the bottom of the totem pole
i forgot the diswhashers/busboys don't exist.
And in any case, oh poor waiters, how tough they must have it doing the literally easiest job in the whole restaurant and expecting to make bank in tips. What's with the pity party for the easiest "min-wage" job in existance? A job that pays extremely well if you're good at it.

[Anonymous No.13618233]

>>13617320
It's not just VAT.

[Anonymous No.13618234]

Weird how restaurants in the rest of the world works perfectly fine without tipping, and how servers are pleasant and helpful without having to bribe them to keep the implicit threat of food-fuckery at a minimum. Seems like paying people a regular wage also works to keep them motivated enough to give good service, since they'll get fired if they suck at their job.

[Anonymous No.13618246]

>>13618199
Why is it up to the owner? In AnCap I can decide to divest my money to whoever I want. Violating the contract I have formed with the legal entiy that represents the worker outside of your corporate interests and their role in your company is VIOLATING the NAP.

And we all know what that means.

[Anonymous No.13618250]

>>13614492
>>systematically tip cute girls more money than ugly girls or men
For what purpose exactly?

[Anonymous No.13618252]

>>13618250
>For what purpose exactly?

are you new here on planet earth?

[Anonymous No.13618287]

Do you guys tip pre or post tax?

[Anonymous No.13618376]

>>13618287
I DON'T TIP BECAUSE I'M NOT A KEKMERICAN

[Anonymous No.13618389]

>>13614445
I make about 50k a year. Its not a lot but a few years ago when i was making about 30k it was hard to get by. I can drop an extra $5 on a meal for a tip and not really notice. The tips at the end of the day for the other guy/gal makes a huge difference.
Of course it would be better if they just got paid an appropriate amount in the first place so i dont have to worry about it.

[Anonymous No.13618397]

>>13614582
They do get paid minimum wage. Otherwise it would be illegal.

[Anonymous No.13618401]

How do you feel about tipping for delivery

[Anonymous No.13618407]

>>13617075
None, how black are you since you demand handouts?

[Anonymous No.13618418]

>>13618250
Tipping will never amount to a date or sex unless you're tipping $1,000s when your bill is $10. But, by then you're just paying her for sex or to be your GF, so hire a hooker instead.

[Anonymous No.13618419]

>>13614998
If i saw that i would make a point to fuck up in 5 very obviouse ways. And then i would continue making mistakes and add a dollar to his table from my pocket for each one.

[Anonymous No.13618425]

>>13617112
but aren't tips supposed to be what you get from a good service? THere's no problem here.

[Anonymous No.13618426]

>>13615428
Anyone know the french term for this? It means something like "stairway wit". You think of a witty comeback after the encounter is over and its too late

[Anonymous No.13618502]

oy vey I like this thread good job goyims

[Anonymous No.13618627]

>get a taxi
>paying by card
>option to give a tip
>give 0.01$

[Anonymous No.13618632]

>>13618426
l'esprit de l'escalier

[Anonymous No.13619014]

>>13613971
if i pick food up from a counter, fill my own drink, take care of my own dishes, I am not leaving a tip
if someone actually takes my order, fills drinks, and is physically present, yeah sure maybe 10-15%
if someone is friendly, makes a personal effort, is nice, or attractive, 20%

anything more than 20% is retarded. if you fuck up my order, don't refill drinks, or forget about my table I am not leaving that 2$ you so desperately need to survive.

>b-b-b-but we don't get paid enough!
tough tits. I know plenty of waiters/waitresses that can bring in 2k on a weekend. Get a better job.

[Anonymous No.13619033]

>>13613971
>NOOOO YOU CANT HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIORS, YOU CANT DO THAT, NOT THE WALLETERINO, NOT THE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT VOLUNTARY DECISION TO SPEND MONEY EATING OUTERINO
Stingy tippers should be gassed.

[Anonymous No.13619043]

>>13615862
the business has to make up the rest of the money at the end of the month.