/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13589284]

Hit me with your best simple keto recipes.

[Anonymous No.13589297]

>>13589284
based heart disease anon

[Anonymous No.13589306]

>>13589284
tell me what keto does to make you lose fat faster than a calorie deficit would?

[Anonymous No.13589317]

>>13589306
Nothing. Keto is a wellness diet, not a weight loss diet. We could argue all day about whether or not it's valid, but it would be a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.13589318]

Take one lean chicken breast. Cook it until it's cooked. Eat. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.13589370]

>>13589306
Cause keto means you dont have to feel hungry. Also I feel better mood wise on keto, I'm also very sedentary so hard to burn carbs in my life at the moment. I had my health checked recently and across all metrics my issues disappeared from high blood pressure to lipid levels in blood. My dermatitis is also much better. The anti keto people on here are 19 year olds who can eat shit and carbs all day and still burn it off due to their young metabolism and furious masterbation. Get back to me in your 30s and tell me you can still live that way.

Anyfucks....I asked for recipes not fucking keto cock blocking. This is a food board and I'm allowed to request certain kinds of food..right?

[Anonymous No.13589374]

>>13589284
Bacon wrapped bananas with ricotta cheese and peanut butter

[Anonymous No.13589379]

>>13589284
Most keto recipes suck ass! I usually just eat shit like sautéed chicken breasts or baked salmon with a side of cruciferous veggies

[Anonymous No.13589397]

>>13589370
>The anti keto people on here are 19 year olds who can eat shit and carbs all day and still burn it off due to their young metabolism and furious masterbation. Get back to me in your 30s and tell me you can still live that way.
I was born in '86 and I think this keto fad is retarded. I've also been underweight my entire adult life through to the present. My secret is the amount of calories I eat isn't as much as the amount of calories you eat. I honestly don't get how people eat to the point of becoming overweight because even just 2000 calories in a day is a lot of food (e.g. a bowl of cheerios, four slices of bacon, and a quart of milk for breakfast plus a big mac and a can of Coke for lunch plus easy mac and a can of Coke for dinner would work out to under 2000 calories despite containing a bunch of stereotypically fattening foods and drinks).
>Cause keto means you dont have to feel hungry.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15701207_A_Satiety_Index_of_common_foods
>The highest SI score was produced by boiled potatoes.
>SI scores also correlated positively with the water, fiber and protein content of the foods but inversely with fat content.

[Anonymous No.13589423]

>>13589379
You need more fat.

[Anonymous No.13589478]

>>13589284
MAN KETO IS SO AWESOME, I LOVE EATING AVOCADO, SALMON, CHICKEN AND BACON. LOOK! LOOK HOW HEALTHY I AM.

[Anonymous No.13589514]

>>13589397
It's a crutch because they have no self-control to limit their carb intake. We'll be laughing our asses off in a few years when they all start dying off like the atkin's retards.

[Anonymous No.13589540]

>>13589423
Well salmon has plenty of fat on its own and I cook the chicken in a copious amount of butter also I eat a lot of eggs but I do appreciate your concern bro :)

[Anonymous No.13589544]

>>13589397
Spiking insulin like that several times a day is a great way to get the beetus. All calories are is the amount of heat energy burning a piece of food produces.

[Anonymous No.13589550]

>>13589284
>get chicken
>cook chicken
>wa la

[Anonymous No.13589555]

>>13589306
makes you more satiated with less calories

[Anonymous No.13589590]

>>13589397
> underweight
So a bitch.

[Anonymous No.13589601]

>>13589397
If they lose weight then it worked and plenty of people do lose weight on ketogenic diets. Why do you care?

[Anonymous No.13589606]

>>13589397
are you a midget

[None !!xcJF+8MBJQq No.13589613]

>>13589306
"Insulin is fat-sparing."

[Anonymous No.13590164]

So first the keto backlash and now the keto army kicks in.

JUST GIVE ME SOME FUCKING RECIPES!

[Anonymous No.13590221]

>>13589317
>We could argue all day about whether or not it's valid, but it would be a waste of time.
Not usually how it goes from what I've seen. Usually ketards make a wild claim claim then get asked for a source which they don't post.

[Anonymous No.13590225]

>>13589555
Source?

[Anonymous No.13590226]

>>13589544
What do you mean by "like that"? Are you referencing some diet?

[Anonymous No.13590248]

>>13590221
Kind of what makes it a waste of time. Obviously the body of research favours the status quo, as research tends to do. Obviously there is risk of vitamin deficiencies if you're not careful. There are suggestions of mental and physical benefits, but there is at present no real inventive for a credible body to rigorously prove them. In the end, it's a case of whether or not you're curious enough to try it. If you're not, don't fret so much about people who are.

[Anonymous No.13590267]

I'm so sorry for OP, having contrarian zoomsoys shitting up your thread.

I'm no cook but one of the French mother sauces and its spin offs sound very promised. Made from cleared butter and egg yolks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hq18uWPFVM

[Anonymous No.13590273]

>>13590248
>There are suggestions of mental and physical benefits
But I thought research favored the status quo?

[Anonymous No.13590302]

>>13590273

Can you stop pestering him, faggot? Oh no, someone posted a thread for dishes that are healthy for diabetics. And other people are starting to eat them too! You won't stand for this! Fuckwit.

OP, don't let yourself get baited into a /sci/ debate on /ck/, everyone has access to autistic youtubers' videos, complete with sources. There is obviously material supporting keto. He knows it, he just has some gripe about it or diets in general and tries to enforce his shit on the board.

[Anonymous No.13590439]

>>13590302

[Anonymous No.13590448]

>>13589284
weed.
just weed.
zero carbs. zero sugar. zero depression

[Anonymous No.13590522]

>>13589370
>Cause keto means you dont have to feel hungry.
clinical trials have proven non-sugar carbs are more satiating than fat

[Anonymous No.13590526]

>>13589544
i only eat once a day

[Anonymous No.13590578]

Big Mac Casserole:

1 lb ground beef
2 tsp chicken bouillon
1 1/3 tsp onion powder
2 tsp parsley
2/3 tsp garlic powder
1 1/3 c cheddar, shredded
1/3 c low carb thousand island dressing
2 eggs, beaten
1/8 c sour cream
Sesame seeds, for garnish

Brown the ground beef in a skillet and add the spices. Transfer to a bowl and mix with 2/3 cup of the cheese, the thousand island dressing, sour cream, and eggs. Add the mixture to a greased 9x9 baked dish and spread evenly. Sprinkle the remaining cheese evenly on top and bake at 375°F for 30 mins. Garnish with sesame seeds.

For the entire thing: 2000 calories, 24g net carbs, 150g fat, 134g protein. Great for OMAD, and it’s fucking delicious.

Anti-keto fags BTFO. I lost 70 lbs eating this dish at least once a week. I’m in better health than ever. Good luck, OP.

[Anonymous No.13590851]

>>13589284
this sounded interesting, i havent read it in years, so i dont remember if its simple

[Anonymous No.13590872]

>>13589306
this >>13589613
also reduces water retention so you look fuarkin shredded. i dont do it, though, too much of a pain in the ass when i can hit weight goals otherwise. but goddamn when you do keto for two weeks when hitting the gym, when you start eating carbs again your muscles suck up every carb they can, along with water, and you're the best you can look. its what bodybuilders do before competitions

[Anonymous No.13590887]

>>13589397
So you're a twink.

[Anonymous No.13590911]

>>13590225
idk if that guy's correct, but protein and fat take longer to digest, so you would definitely be satiated for longer. source: physiology 101

[Anonymous No.13590916]

>>13590526
fucking intermittent fasting meme diet

im just kidding mayne, you aight

[Anonymous No.13590920]

>>13590578

[Anonymous No.13590921]

>>13590522
sauce me up nigger

[Anonymous No.13591103]

>>13589606
>are you a midget
6'1 actually (140lb). I'm just one of the ultra-rare Americans left who not only isn't overweight but falls slightly on the opposite side of underweight BMIs. It wouldn't be weird at all if it were 50 years ago, but now we're living in some fucked up pathological indulgence-centric nightmare dystopia where being just barely what counts as a little below weight is freakish but being morbidly obese is normal.

[Anonymous No.13591110]

>>13590911
>protein and fat take longer to digest, so you would definitely be satiated for longer
Wrong. Fat's fairly non-satiating and the foods producing the most satiety are carbs like potatoes.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15701207_A_Satiety_Index_of_common_foods
>The highest SI score was produced by boiled potatoes.
>SI scores also correlated positively with the water, fiber and protein content of the foods but inversely with fat content.

[Anonymous No.13591147]

>>13591110
I don't know enough to say that's wrong, but it doesnt seem entirely cut-and-dry at least

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/

[Anonymous No.13591292]

>>13591103

>Its all indulgence, bro
>nothing to do with fucking kids' craving levels with constant insulin spikes and fat tissue buildup

A landwhale craves harder after a meal than a skelly fasted. Fattening up is inherently a mechanism of storing abundance of food and only caps off in nature when you run out of the food source.

Fact is you're either some outlier or had unusual upbringing. You're not virtuous or anything else like that, for that you'd at least have to peak above normal weight and then will yourself back down. 50 years ago you'd probably look like an anorectic gimp.

[Anonymous No.13591295]

>>13591103
Are you the long hair guy that likes Coke?

[Anonymous No.13591299]

>>13591110

>"Satiety index"
>by me, Peter

wowzers

Doesn't matter if you're feeling viscerally full or w/e that measures. Primary long term hormonal reaction of satiety is triggered by lipids and craving is triggered by insulin. Its pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.13591302]

>>13591147
>idk wtf im talking about so i should stop talking
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.13591307]

>>13591299

PS just looking through the description, its high protein and high carb foods only. lol

[Anonymous No.13591323]

>>13591299
>>13591307
the satiety index is the conclusion of over 300 clinical trials in which people were tested for satiety
>its just protein and carbs that were tested!!!
well lets look at the results
the most satiating food is boiled potatoes
the second most satiating food is a protein with zero fat
the third most satiating food is a carb breakfast with zero fat
the fourth is a low calorie, mid fiber, low sugar citrus fruit
the fifth is a high volume, low calorie fruit
the sixth is a carb with zero fat
all of these are considered to be more satiating than the first item, the seventh on the list, with any amount of fat in it
the least satiating foods on the index are all low in non-sugar carbs and high in fat
pretty simple conclusion from this information

[Anonymous No.13591328]

>>13591299
God what a pretentious fucking retard you are. Proven wrong dead in your face, eat shit.

[Anonymous No.13591374]

>>13591323

Doesn't matter, high fat was not tested. Even less so a keto meal, since insulin spike is present. Its telling you can't even locate the only two potentially ketogenic food items on the list. And I see no mention of the subjects being fasted, won't even bother though, study's shit.

Also satiety is a word w/o set parameters. It wholly depends on the definition in the study. I glanced through it and it only checks if you wanted to eat more up to 2 hours after. Well guess what, a day is more than 2 hours. The methodology was chosen for convenience of testing and is quite shit, the sample sizes are minuscule.

>pretty simple conclusion from this information

You can't conclude anything though, you obviously don't know the subject.

[Anonymous No.13591382]

>>13591328

Put results of a study on a graph and the brainlet will it his own shit if it tells him to. lel

[Anonymous No.13591429]

>>13591302
>A low-fat diet reduced peptide YY more than a low-carbohydrate diet. These findings suggest that satiety may be better preserved on a low-carbohydrate diet, as compared to a low fat diet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4873405/

>Ghrelin was significantly lower in participants assigned to the low carbohydrate diet compared with those assigned to the high carbohydrate diet
https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4583

[Anonymous No.13591621]

Intermittent fasting or One Meal A Day with cutting out vegetable and seed oils, processed foods (especially soy), and just more generally watching carbs fulfills all the pros of keto without the wonkyness of keto

[Anonymous No.13591628]

>>13591382
>brainlet will it his own shit
Nice one

[Anonymous No.13591685]

>>13589284
>1 stick of butter
your diet is bad

>>13589544
based retarded "muh insulin rollercoaster" poster

[Anonymous No.13591686]

>>13591628

>autocorrect into the wrong word ergo I win

peak form, Socrates

[Anonymous No.13591707]

>>13591685
>your diet is bad

Blaming saturated fats or cholesterols is pure fabrication, Kellog-level quackery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zWNabebxs

[Anonymous No.13591719]

>>13591686
>phonephaggot
Yeah you lost

[Anonymous No.13591724]

>>13591707
>PhD in watching YouTube lectures
Try again

[Anonymous No.13591729]

>>13591719

nope, I just clicked over w/o looking. This clearly means I win. Bow to my Linux desktop machine, casual user peasant.

[Anonymous No.13591735]

>>13591724

serum cholesterol doesn't correlate with cardiovascular disease. Not one study in history shows it.

[Anonymous No.13591744]

>>13591729
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

[Anonymous No.13591749]

>>13591735
I don't think you know what correlate means, you probably mean causation and you'd still be wrong.

[Anonymous No.13591769]

>>13591749

I meant what I wrote. Doesn't EVEN correlate. Thats right, motherfucker, this is the might of early 20th century American nutrition. Making shit up as you go, then obscuring evidence to the contrary.

[Anonymous No.13591799]

>>13591769
>it doesnt even correlate
Cool story. You're just doubling down because you dont know what correlate means
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0000103664.47406.49

[Anonymous No.13591983]

>>13591799
>>13591769

Awfully silent now are we

[Anonymous No.13592016]

>>13589306
it curbs your appetite

[Anonymous No.13592080]

Honestly, you really don't need "recipes" if you're doing low carb. People spend too much time making frankenfoods because they can't let go of junk food and desserts.

Fresh meat and offal, fish, lots of vegetables, nuts, seeds and some dairy (full-fat yogurt, butter, hard cheeses) is all you really need. Place emphasis on whole foods. Buy something different every time you go shopping and prepare things simply. It's really easy.

Granted, I don't do full-on "keto" anymore. I keep my carb counts just high enough to avoid going into ketosis. These days I don't go crazy on fats. It worked really well for the first 12 months/100 pounds, though.

[Anonymous No.13592150]

>>13589306
without consuming enough carbohydrates to sustain your body's energy needs it will resort to a function in the liver called gluconeogenesis where it converts proteins and glycerol (a significant portion of triglycerides which makes up your body fat cells) into an energy source.
Protein intake will protect your muscle mass, fat will make you feel full.

[Anonymous No.13592172]

>>13589284
Eggs and bacon
Grilled steak and brussel sprouts
Chicken and broccoli
Salmon and asparagus
Pork loin and homemade sauerkraut
I dont really know if all of these are keto but it's basically what I eat and feel great.
Everything is seasoned with S&P and oiled with leftover bacon fat I keep in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.13592355]

For me it's keto recipes by cooking with Jack