Coffee Time General /ctg/

[Anonymous No.13506020]

Doppio edition. This thread is for all coffee related discussion and inquiries.

>what are you drinking
>where is it from
>getting anymore

Previous thread >>13418556

[Anonymous No.13506078]

first for moka pot chads

[Anonymous No.13506227]

>>13506020
I use nescafe gold colombia, it really gives a nice fruity aftertaste if you use it to make latte

[Anonymous No.13506740]

>>13506020
I don't get the appeal of coffee at all. I drink it at work just to be social.

[Anonymous No.13506859]

>>13506740
I’ve never heard of a social coffee drinker before. Why not drink tea or hot chocolate or sparkling water if you don’t like coffee?

[Anonymous No.13506866]

>>13504676
Thanks for the tips, I'm going for a v60 and a cheap hand grinder, the whole thing is like 40 eurobucks combined so I'm not exactly ruining myself here.

[Anonymous No.13506943]

>>13506740
People who "don't get the appeal" of coffee are like lesbians who "don't get the appeal" of penis. They just haven't had a good one yet.

[Anonymous No.13507007]

>>13506859
We don't have sparkling water at work, otherwise I might, and I don't tea or hot chocolate. My coworker usually invites me to get a coffee from the staff room, and I feel rude if I don't go.

>>13506943
What is good coffee?

[Anonymous No.13507310]

>>13506020
I just bough an espresso machine, I want to grind my own coffee, any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.13507327]

am i the only one who coffee/espresso just gives stomach ache and uber shits?

[Anonymous No.13507339]

>>13458542
>>13465104
Just got here. tc4+ is still otw so I just fucking ran it. 86 grams green, 75 roasted. I'd call it just past a full city with first crack at 4:45 and I stopped it and cooled at 7:30. Offgassing now so I'll pull a few shots in the morning.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/sweet-maria-s-liquid-amber-espresso-blend.html

https://www.sweetmarias.com/ethiopia-agaro-kedamai-cooperative-6121.html

https://www.sweetmarias.com/sweet-maria-s-new-classic-espresso.html

https://www.sweetmarias.com/peru-fair-trade-organic-utcubamba-don-rigoberto-6220.html

Those are the 4 free lbs I got.

[Anonymous No.13507343]

>>13507310
Kinu or bust. M47 phoenix is a fucking STEAL.

[Anonymous No.13507351]

Would blooming the grounds in room temp water before adding hot water change anything in a french press?

[Anonymous No.13507362]

>>13507343
thanks

[Anonymous No.13507451]

>>13506866
>cheap hand grinder
Get a timemore slim for ~$80 on aliexpress instead. https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32955636398.html..
Don't get the Slim S version because it's more money and has espresso burrs, which you don't want because the grind adjustment is too coarse for espresso, and the standard burrset is better for pourover. Or if you can a MadeByKnock Aerspeed or Aergrind grinder for within $20 of that price, one of those might be better.

The cheap ceramic-burr hand grinders like hario, porlex, javapresse, rhinowares, etc. are NOT worth the money. They might seem like a a good value, but they're not. They're unbelievably shitty. They'll produce lots of fine powder and big chunks that will simultaneously over and underextract, and they take for FUCKING EVER to grind anything. They're almost as bad as a blade grinder because they're not hugely better in terms of grind quality, but take longer to use. Worse, they'll trick you into thinking you have a coffee grinder when you actually don't. You have a coffee toy.

That said... DO NOT buy anything "better" or more expensive than a timemore slim or MBK aerspeed/aergrind unless and until you want a Kinu. (The Kinu M47, Simplicity, and Phoenix go for $344, $260, or $200 respectively. They're the best hand grinders in the world bar none.)

Because, the timemore slim and the Kinus are so good that NOTHING will be enough of an upgrade to be worth it until you get a Kinu. The Timemore Slim is probably the best value "budget" hand grinder on earth. The grinder's body and axle support is one solid piece of machined aluminum, the catch cup is machined aluminum, the burrs are machined steel, the axle and crank arm are steel, and the axle is stabilized by two bearings. It feels solid, grinds quickly, and does a pretty good job.

My grinder history:
>rhinowares ceramic burr grinder (utter shit)
POWER GAP
>Timemore Slim (good)
>Kinu M47 (absolutely God-tier)

[Anonymous No.13507452]

>>13507310
You didn't list a budget so Kafatek Monolith Titan Flat

[Anonymous No.13507474]

poor college student how to get good coffee?

[Anonymous No.13507476]

unless you have a fancy espresso machine at home, gas station coffee is better than anything, especially starbucks.

[Anonymous No.13507511]

>>13507474
go to 7-11 my dude.

[Anonymous No.13507517]

>>13507451
ok, noted, but I'm not dropping that kind of money on a grinder for now, would you still recommend grinding my coffee myself or just buying pre ground ?

[Anonymous No.13507566]

>>13507476
Even cowboy coffee at home would taste better than gas station coffee.

[Anonymous No.13507571]

>>13507474
v60 + one of the cheap grinders this bro just elaborated on.

You can start roasting for $28 shipped with that sweet marias deal I linked. Seems like a no brainer.

[Anonymous No.13507584]

>>13507517
Preground is going to taste like shit. Something something oils exposed to oxygen for periods of time. Grind fresh, budget out a grinder you'll only have to buy once.

[Anonymous No.13507625]

>>13507584
I'm not dumping 200 into a grinder, I just want some decent tasting coffee, compared to the shitty caps you can buy at the supermarket and fuck around a bit, pardon me if I go cheap at first.

[Anonymous No.13507648]

>>13507625
Decent is relative. I get a ridiculous amount of value out of a $200 grinder I use 4x a day. Real cheap budgeted out over a month or two, inconsequential budgeted out over a year. Buy a hario skerton, buy the upgraded OE bushings, throw it in the trash after 4 months when you realize you wasted your money.

[Anonymous No.13507823]

>>13507517
If you're buying freshly roasted coffee:

If you have a local cafe or roaster that will freshly grind 1-2 weeks worth of coffee for you, that's a reasonable compromise. Tell them it's for a v60.
Or if your grocery store has decent beans and a bulk grinder, grind enough coffee that you'll use it up by the next time you visit the store.
Otherwise, if they have decent beans but no grinder, and you have a blade grinder, keep using that but shake it while you pulse the power button and just kind of pray it works.

If you have access to good beans but no way to grind them, then it's kind of a tossup on whether it's worth getting a $20-$30 javapresse clone. Maybe. BUT if you can budget for a Timemore Slim within a month or two, then I don't think it's worth it to buy a throwaway grinder just to use in the meantime. I'd just buy the best pre-ground I could find.

If you don't have easy access to fresh (within 3 weeks of roasting) beans:
Just buy pre-ground. The whole bean stuff on the shelves is probably just as stale as the pre-ground, except if you grind it yourself without good equipment, you'll end up with stale+shitty grind instead of merely stale. Try to find the bags with the best expiration date.

It's probably not worth it to spend the money on great beans if you have a terrible grinder. Halfway decent beans, yeah. But more than like $16/lb is just not worth it because you won't taste what you're paying for.

>>13507625
The timemore slim is a genuinely good grinder for around $80. A $200+ kinu is a purely optional upgrade in case you really want the best, or need an espresso grinder.

[Anonymous No.13507864]

[Anonymous No.13507872]

>>13507474
>>13507571
For good cheap coffee without roasting it yourself: sometimes local roasters have good prices, and happymug sells good coffee for a good price. Especially if you buy enough 2 lb bags that shipping is free. Otherwise shipping is a flat $3. Their sophisticated ethiopia tastes like strawberries, and the Ethiopia Halo Bariti tastes kinda like blueberry muffins at times. Their sumatra raja batak pretty much just tastes like a good sumatran to me so far, nothing too special.

[Anonymous No.13507881]

>>13507476
>>13507511

[Anonymous No.13508523]

>>13507625
Then drink shitty coffee you dumb nigger. Don't get into hobbies that you can't afford then complain that it isn't good when you don't buy the right tools to be successful.

[Anonymous No.13509169]

>>13508523
dude chill

[Anonymous No.13509361]

>How do I make coffee better?
>Spend money
>No

[Anonymous No.13510063]

How long does it take to grind 30g of coffee with one of these things then? Only used a Hario mini mill before and even grinding 15g sucks ass. I want coffee to give me energy not take it away

[Anonymous No.13510088]

>>13507864
>enjoy you're coffee
kek

[Anonymous No.13510332]

>>13510063
I've never used that particular model but for your reference, I can grind 30g of pour-over through an Italmill 38mm conical burr set (this is a commonly used burr set for ~$200 hand grinders) in about 20 seconds. Espresso would probably take over a minute.

The ceramic set in the Hario mini is awful. Upgrading to steel makes a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.13511041]

I usually do melitta pp filter
Coffee is arabica, $1 per 100g and taste good enough for me

>>13506740
It actually depend on your emotional health.
As for me the time I didnt think coffee taste good is when have mild depression level.

[Anonymous No.13511064]

>>13509169
>BTFO by obvious truth
>why u so serious dude

Loser

[Anonymous No.13511220]

>>13510063
If you're worn out after grinding an oz of coffee, you should probably buy a jumprope or do pushups or something. Jesus christ dude.

[Anonymous No.13511275]

>>13510063
Maybe 20-30 seconds, depending on the grind setting, bean, and how fast you turn the crank. The coarser your grind the faster it is, the more you grind the slower. But generally you grind a little coarser as you up the coffee dose for most brewing methods, so the time it takes doesn’t increase as much as you’d think. I only ever ground 14-22grams at a time for Aeropress or v60 and the time it took was measured in seconds, never minutes. My m47 is a bit faster since it has bigger burrs, but it’s not such a big difference that it really matters. Ceramic burr hand grinders are a waste of time and money, as I’ve said.

>>13511064
I’m not this >>13507625 anon.
I simply think that just cuz we’re more enlightened than the unwashed coffee plebs doesn’t mean we should be cunts about it. You don’t need a stagg ekg, kinu m47, and 90+ rated coffees to make decent coffee.
If we’re huge assholes to everyone then we’ll scare them away from learning anything. We tend to forget how little we knew about coffee when we first started out, so try to be patient when newfags who just wants something better than keurig or stale-ass Folgers brewed in a mr. coffee balk when we tell them that if they don’t spend hundreds of dollars they’re retards who shouldn’t even bother.

Yeah this is a thread for coffee autists but if we’re as superior as we think we are, we should be magnanimous wisemen instead of insufferable dicks.

Not everyone who wants better coffee also wants a new hobby.

[Anonymous No.13511285]

>>13511275
Fuck off fag

[Anonymous No.13511291]

>>13511275
Smart post. Thanks for even bothering to write it and do it well knowing how likely it was to go unnoticed.

[Anonymous No.13511326]

>>13506020
>Doppio edition
Is that a motherfuckin JoJo's reference?

[Anonymous No.13511360]

>>13511275
> We tend to forget how little we knew about coffee when we first started out

Yeah, but when most of us started out we did a 20 minute cursory googling to figure out what we'd like to learn.

>How I coffee better?

Is not a question.

>Not everyone who wants better coffee also wants a new hobby.

The best thing about getting a high quality grinder that doesn't slip is you just kind of set it and then consistently grind your beans for years. Leaving things on your counter is not a hobby.

[Anonymous No.13511396]

>>13511275
>if we’re as superior as we think we are, we should be magnanimous wisemen
Well look who's a narcissistic asshole. No one here besides you thinks they are morally superior. We only think we have superior taste in coffee. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.13511568]

>>13511291
Th-thanks y-you too

>>13511360
You’re right.

People shouldn’t be asking
>how do I into coffee?

But they still ask us. Knowing where to start can be confusing and lots of people end up with shitty advice from plebbitors extolling the virtues of Hario skertons.
So I think we should make a sticky to give people a starting point, so we don’t end up answering the same foundational questions over and over again.

>The best thing about getting a high quality grinder that doesn't slip is you just kind of set it and then consistently grind your beans for years.
That’s a REALLY good point. Stuff like that belongs in a sticky.

>>13511396
kek I didn’t mean it like that. I meant we should be giving people sane, informed advice instead acting high and mighty.
I uh... I might’ve been a bit too theatrical about it though.

[Anonymous No.13512188]

We do need a simple sticky/guide. There's so many basic rules of thumb that aren't always common knowledge but are completely necessary to make a good cup of coffee. That said, I'm gonna masturbate and then get drunk with the boys. Peace anons

[Anonymous No.13512214]

>>13511568
>>13512188
/tea/ has a real good pastebin. We could knock off their format. I might get real stoned and compile some shit if another bro wants to edit my rambling. Its going to have anti aeropress propoganda in it though.

[Anonymous No.13512218]

I use a Mr. Coffee with Cafe Bustello, then sweeten it with stevia drops and add cream. Pretty neat, huh?

[Anonymous No.13512222]

>>13512214
Why? Aeropress is peak dorm room /comfy/ and it makes consistently great cups. Pour over has higher highs but aeropress is basically infallible

[Anonymous No.13512249]

Thoughts on pic related? Personally, I think his knits are comfy, but his hair is whack. I think his french press method is brilliant though.

[Anonymous No.13512255]

>>13512222
Its an immersion brewer made by a 3rd rate frisbee salesman. The "press" does not alter the pressure enough to actually affect the cup. Its a french press with paper filters.

[Anonymous No.13512280]

>>13512218
NO! Youre a bad guy

[Anonymous No.13512283]

>>13512255
Frisbees are good, french presses are good, it's portable. What's not to love? Apart from its shills of course

[Anonymous No.13512287]

>>13512249
Coffeegay knows his shit. I tried his coffee soda with a real neutral kombucha base and it was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.13512296]

>>13506020
So coffee aficionados
I like coffee and I like it sweet, creamy, and especially in ice
What names are more traditional for something like this

[Anonymous No.13512313]

>>13512283
Its a $30 toy. Frisbees are great, aerobies are for fgrs. An $8 plastic v60 and $10 aliexpress french press will take you way further.

[Anonymous No.13512628]

>>13507625

I spent 178 on this grinder and saved thousands.

[Anonymous No.13512665]

>>13512296
Worthless coffee snobs will tell you different, but Lavazza Oro beans are wonderfully smooth. Espresso ground or drip through.

[Anonymous No.13512718]

>>13512628
At 6.50/lb for the greens I'm drinking, I'm paying 26 cents for a double. I just joined a green coffee co-op(shit like that should probably be in the pastebin) so cost is only going down from here. Invest in your shit people, it pays out dividends.

[Anonymous No.13512782]

>>13512313
It's easy to use, super easy to clean, versatile, plus very forgiving of technique, bean quality, and grind quality/size. It's also the fastest method I know of to brew coffee. The main drawback is that unless you make a concentrate, it only makes like 200ml coffee max which is dumb.

I like it. But since getting good at making pourovers, I hardly use it. Although it served me well as my introduction to specialty coffee, I'm divided on whether it's a good recommendation for babby's first brew method.

Pros:
>Extremely user friendly
>Fast (depending on recipe)
>Hard to make outright bad coffee if you use halfway decent beans
>You don't need a gooseneck kettle or have to worry about pour over technique
>It's $30 and comes with a shitload of stuff
>It can make small amounts of coffee
>Durable
>Cheap filters

Cons:
>such versatility means there's a fucking ocean of recipes and techniques out there to confuse the everloving fuck out of you
>It's $30 and it comes with a shitload of stuff
>It can ONLY make small amounts of coffee
>A v60 makes better coffee once you git gud
>It's easy, but it has more steps than 1. add coffee 2. add water 3. wait in a v60 or french press

[Anonymous No.13512943]

>>13512782
I dunno man, a v60 makes better coffee if you can tie your shoes. It doesn't take that much fine motor control to precisely pour without a gooseneck. You could microwave water in a pyrex measuring cup and be absolutely fine. Size 02 plastics are $8 on amazon, I ordered one for a friend last night.

[Anonymous No.13512966]

>>13512296
Look for coffees described as being "classic" or "traditional" with tasting notes like "earthy, chocolate, roasty, caramel, intense, nutty, sweet, smooth, smoky" and probably medium to dark roasts. Indonesian stuff like Sumatran or American coffees like Colombian are usually in that vein. If you like "donut shop" type coffee, then you'll probably like stuff that's roasted medium. If you like more starbucks type smoky/bitter/roasty coffee then get dark roasts. (But avoid so-dark-it's-fucking-cremated roasts.)

Fruity, acidic, flowery, etc. coffee — like most African coffee — and lots of lighter roasts won't hold up as well to a bunch of cream and sugar, because they'll mask a lot of the nuance. Also, lighter roasts will be more acidic and might not taste like the coffee you're used to. You should still try them though, because once your tongue wraps its head around them, they're quite nice. If you make it right (and maybe get a little lucky), a fruity ethiopian coffee with cream and sugar can taste reminiscent of a bit blueberry milkshake.

Regardless, you ideally want fresh roasted coffee ground just before brewing. No matter what coffee it is, no matter what flavor profile, no matter what you add to it, coffee tastes much better fresh than stale.

If you're adding ice to it, then you'll want to brew your coffee stronger by using a higher coffee to water ratio, and you'll want more intensely flavored coffees. Because:
>Ice dilutes your coffee
>Cold things taste less flavorful because cold slows down molecular wiggling, so volatile flavor molecules are less volatile, and you don't taste them quite as much.
That's why melted ice cream tastes sweeter than frozen ice cream.
If you're doing a lot of iced coffee, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApBycDrPo0

I'd suggest that before adding both cream and sugar, first try a sip of your coffee black, then try it with just cream or sugar, then finish adding the rest. You might find you like it.

[Anonymous No.13512983]

>>13512943
>It doesn't take that much fine motor control to precisely pour without a gooseneck.
M-maybe for you

[Anonymous No.13513068]

>>13512943
Also a v60 is much less forgiving of grind quality in my experience, and people are reluctant to spring for even an $80 timemore.

Wait.

For like $90 you can get a v60 and timemore slim.
Or get an aeropress and hario grinder for $70-$90 depending on which shitty grinder you get.

I've 100% changed my mind FUCK the aeropress.

[Anonymous No.13513104]

>>13513068
(At least for people that don't already have a good grinder and v60.)

[Anonymous No.13513225]

>>13513068
>For like $90 you can get a v60 and timemore slim.

And be fucking happy for YEARS. Able to sample whatever fucking beans you want online by the lb.

[Anonymous No.13513278]

>>13513225
Yeah. That needs to be in the sticky, alongside
>For $90 you can get a v60 and timemore slim.
>Or you can get an aeropress and hario grinder for $70-$90 depending on which shitty grinder you get.
If your first brewer is an aeropress, you got memed.

[Anonymous No.13513343]

>>13507339
Did a darker roast on the same greens. 9:30 till the second crack just started. For $28 I'm ecstatic. Shot was rich, full, chocolatey, extremely smooth. Way better than the 7:30 roast. Only going to get better when I get it wired up to artisan.

[Anonymous No.13513376]

>>13513343

[Anonymous No.13513554]

Hey anons, redpill me on homemade cold brew

[Anonymous No.13513838]

>>13513554
I use it to get rid of beans that are too gross to brew any other way since it usually results in something drinkable if a bit boring.

It's a pain in the ass to filter and clean up after making it though. Also I've only got a manual grinder and while it grinds quickly, I usually make big-ass batches of cold brew at a time so it can get tiresome when grinding well over 100 grams in one go. I don't usually measure too carefully when making cold brew since the coffee:water ratio doesn't matter as much, and I'm literally making cold brew with beans I'd otherwise throw away. I usually do something like 1:8 coffee:water though.

I'll make it in a french press (the only time I use a french press is making cold brew lol) or in one of those huge mason jars. If I make it in a french press, I'll use that to filter it. Otherwise I'll dump it in a mesh sieve to get the bulk of the grounds. Then I filter it through a v60 or aeropress. I don't think cold brew is really worth it enough to me to get a dedicated brewer for it.

I haven't experimented much making cold brew with nice coffees since I typically get breddy gud results brewing them normally.

[Anonymous No.13513930]

>>13513838
Man I bought a shitty primula cold brew bottle for some reason. It has a sleeve for travel. I don't take cold brew places :/

[Anonymous No.13514384]

Coffee loving drawfag over here. No vibes like coffee on a sunday morning.

[Anonymous No.13514560]

>>13513343
Just past the second crack is also my favorite for espresso.

[Anonymous No.13515098]

I wanna buy a Comandante but 220€ is steep. If I could pick it up for 180 I would go for it. But it seems like it never drops in price.

[Anonymous No.13515132]

So I don't know if you guys have already heard about it, but if not this might significantly change your filter coffee life.

There's a new chink grinder around with ghost burrs that has become quite the hot topic in the German coffee scene as well as home barista. It costs a mere 130 bucks and grinds really fucking uniform. It even comes with an inbuilt sifter so you can reduce fines even further. For comparisons sake, some people are saying this produces an even clearer cup than the Comandante (while being cheaper AND automatic) and others even go as far as to call it the baby EKG. For 130. Needless to say it's an unreasonably good deal and wrecks electric rangers more than three times its price. Only major downside is that it is really not suited for espresso - it's a pure filter coffee grinder. But if that's what you want to make and you can't be arsed to get a Kinu or Comandante this is your best bet. No one should be buying an Encore in 2020 with this around anymore.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32933018712.html

[Anonymous No.13515147]

about to take a fat shit

[Anonymous No.13515996]

>>13515132
I’ve heard of these. It’s basically a chink knockoff of the Fuji royal. It’s the cheapest ghost tooth grinder I know of. I’m still not 100% sold on the build quality, but it sounds like the people that are happy with it are REALLY happy with it.

It’s not remotely suited to espresso, and if you brew Moka pot or Aeropress with a really fine grind, it won’t grind for those either. But with the ghost tooth burrs it produces an extremely even grind with very few fines, making ghost tooth grinders the best in the world for making filter coffee at their price range.

If you’re completely obsessed with pour over or French press, and want a one trick pony just for that, then a good ghost tooth grinder WILL beat a Comandante or M47 for flavor clarity and note separation. (And at least one guy says pour overs with his Kinu m47 traveler using the new pour over burr isn’t quite as good as his Orphan Espresso Apex grinder, which uses ghost tooth burrs.)

I’ve already got an m47 that I adore, so I’m not gonna bother with a xeoleo. I’ll probably just get the ~$50 pour over burr later. But ghost tooth grinders are something that should be in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.13516244]

>And at least one guy says pour overs with his Kinu m47 traveler using the new pour over burr isn’t quite as good as his Orphan Espresso Apex grinder, which uses ghost tooth burrs.

I don't think that guy has ground enough coffee to break in his BRAND NEW kinu burrs.

[Anonymous No.13516308]

Image from the first time making espresso.


Got the Flair and the Lido E, but I want an electric grinder. Any suggestions? Anything good under $700?

[Anonymous No.13516330]

>>13516244
Probably not, no.

Also, the traveler doesn’t seem to be as perfectly aligned as the other Kinus, due to having a central axle that’s thinner than the axle on the Phoenix, Simplicity, and og M47. Because of that, they use a brass(?) collar that slips between the axle and the inner burr to keep it snug. My traveler had very little play but it must have had some effect, because when I returned it to get an M47, the M47 pourovers seem to taste slightly better. I could be wrong since there was a hellish week spent grinderless between the traveler and M47, and the M47 is so beautiful, and so exquisitely made that it probably introduced bias... but still.

(I returned the traveler not because there was anything wrong with it, but because it was too hard for my mom to turn with the shorter handle. Also the plastic catch cup produced insane amounts of static. Also I just really wanted an M47.)

[Anonymous No.13516335]

>>13516308
I have no hands-on experience with it, but the Niche Zero seems to be a very highly regarded sub-$700 electric grinder, especially for espresso.

[Anonymous No.13516346]

Y'all wait just a goddamned minute. You tellin' me my Aeropress is pleb-teir coffee brewing now? And really, I just use it to seperate the grinds from the water. I Just put the grounds and hot water in a coffee mug and let it sit about a 1½ minutes and pour the resulting brew through the press?

Am I doing it wrong? Why do coffee shops offer Aeropressed coffee if it's decidedly shit?

[Anonymous No.13516355]

>>13516330
Yeah the only - I could mention when I was recommending my phoenix a few threads ago was the static. I guess I could spritz water in or whatever but I can't be fucked. Super interested in having those pour over burrs in my back pocket tho.

[Anonymous No.13516367]

>>13516346
Stop talking like an autist.

[Anonymous No.13516369]

>>13514384
>King plague doctor and blue pacman ghost brew up their latest plan for world domination so that girls will notice them.

I prefer my "coffee vibe" on warm sunday mornings outdoors on a porch, but am in Texas and not cold rainy london or something. A gentle breeze and the whispering trees calmly swaying. The morning sun in my lover's eyes. Coffee vibes.

[Anonymous No.13516381]

>>13506020
i like to mix these two together, they have a really chocolatey and nice taste with some kind of a berry undertone.

[Anonymous No.13516446]

>>13516346
>You tellin' me my Aeropress is pleb-teir coffee brewing now?

Always has been.

>Why do coffee shops offer Aeropressed coffee if it's decidedly shit?

Because 55% of consumers have trouble tying their shoes daily. I could piss into a carafe and call it yirgacheffe and noone would question int.

[Anonymous No.13516465]

>>13516346
Not really. Just that it’s the last thing you should buy and it’s a bad investment as your first brewer because Aeropress +shit grinder almost costs the same as a v60 and timemore slim, which is a FAR better setup.

The Aeropress is more of a novelty than a smart first brewer so you shouldn’t get one until you already have at BARE MINIMUM a good grinder, and preferably a v60 too. If you can afford to get an Aeropress, timemore, and v60 all at once, then go for it. If not, prioritizing the Aeropress is stupid, because it takes money away from a timemore, and your grinder is far and away the single most critical piece of coffee equipment you will EVER own. Otherwise the Aeropress is fine.

[Anonymous No.13516505]

>>13516355
I swipe the handle of a tiny espresso spoon under the tap and stir the weighed out beans with the wet spoon before dumping them into the grinder. It’s fast, simple, easy, and works perfectly. I use the grind catch from an old rhino wares grinder to weigh the dose. It’s the only useful part on that piece of shit.

There’s some debate as to whether the static is a good thing for pour overs because it traps mostly fines, and acts almost like a sieve. In my opinion, it’s not consistent enough in what the static catches to be a useful technique, and some beans produce enough static that there’s a good bit of non-dust grinds that get stuck. So I de-static pretty much everything I grind.

Ive heard fines seem not to make as big an impact on espresso as they do in pour over so there’s even less reason not to de-static your beans. The whole static thing belongs in the sticky too.

Learned the wet spoon trick from a James Hoffman (PBUH) video.

[Anonymous No.13516564]

>>13516465
This is really dumb advice. There is no such thing as the "better" method, they brew completely different cups and some people are gonna prefer one over the other. Also Aeropress is easier so it's worth it for that alone for newbies.
>talking about price for things under 30 bucks

[Anonymous No.13516623]

>>13516564
Seething aeropresslet. Its a paper filtered french press. The "press" does nothing. Its a fucking immersion brewer for stay at home moms who don't vacuum.

>>13516308
Looks watery. Do you have the pressure gauge or are you going on time alone? Visually I'd say finer grind.


Went back to finish off the last of the lighter roast. VERY VERY different as I go coarser on the grind. Intense sweetness, almost a tea like undertone and finishes very chocolatey. Jumping between roasts of the same bean is pure fuckery.

[Anonymous No.13516677]

>>13516623
Ah okay, you're just a shitposter. Figured.

[Anonymous No.13516751]

>>13516465
Well, thanks for that rundown. Our first brewer was a bulky countertop monument drip brewer. After that were a couple french presses, all of them were awful to use, trying to clean, and didn't make good coffee. I began to think a good cup would only come from hipster coffee bars.. Dimly lit dives with copper sconces, glowing macbooks, and general hipster scorn. A $20k Lamborghini brewer and a worn out couch.

Then came the Aeropress and a chinese hand grinder and I thought I finally found flavor country. I was a happy clam but then my woman bought us a Baratza grinder, pic related. (Another chinese grinder but motorized this time). Makes almost the same coffee. She was just tired of watching me turn the manual hand grinder a thousand times per cup. I personally didn't mind.

Anyway, so I guess this pour-over thing will be my 5th or so brewer.

>>13516564
>they brew completely different cups
I did some googling and while I don't think his advice is "dumb", I think also agree they would brew different cups for different tastes. If I'm understanding right, the main difference between pour-over and immersion brewing is how much water hits the coffee and when. Immersion you add all the water at once. Pour-over you add the water in increments. Immersion sounds like "campfire" or "cowboy coffee" while pour over sounds a bit more refined and subtle. Coffee has a lot of subtle flavor many people like. While the other camp seems to just love all body, regardless of all else. I've room in my heart for both.

>>13516623
>The "press" does nothing
That can't be right. I haven't experimented in a long time, but I think the coffee tastes different depending on how much body weight I put on the plunger. If I weigh 200 pounds and the plunger is barely moving down, certainly there's a lot of force pushing that water through. If I put ¼ of my weight on it, it would certainly see less pressure. How could it be otherwise?

[Anonymous No.13516801]

>tfw got a job at a local, growing coffee shop
>they have 3 OF THESE

[Anonymous No.13516839]

>>13516751
https://www.aeropress.co.uk/pages/faqs
>How many bars of pressure can you achieve in the AeroPress?
>The AeroPress filter is 2.5 inches in diameter so the area of the filter is 4.9 square inches. If you press down firmly on a scale, it is relatively easy to get the scale up to 25 pounds and then if you press hard on the scale, you can certainly get it up to 50 pounds. Therefore if you press similarly hard on your AeroPress while brewing coffee, the firm pressing will be at 5.1 psi (25 lbs/4.9 sq in) and the harder pressing will be at 10.2 psi (50 lbs/4.9 sq in). Since a bar of pressure is 14.7 psi, the former is .35 bar and the latter is .70 bar. We have done taste comparisons between minimal and maximum pressure on an AeroPress and our taste buds can’t tell the difference.


Sorry bud, .7 bar peak pressure isn't going to extract any solubles that a french press wouldn't. Its a paper filtered french press. Its not going to brew "espresso style" coffee like they claim. Its not going to brew better or easier coffee than 30 grams in an 02 plastic v60 for $8. Its drawer clutter.

[Anonymous No.13516880]

>>13516623
Time alone and I've adjusted the grind. It's an old picture and my first attempt back in 2018.

[Anonymous No.13516919]

>>13516880
Ah gotcha, didnt look at the img date. PGK is absolutely worth it, and that other bros right. Look into that niche and report back.

[Anonymous No.13516962]

>>13516564
I meant it was a bad choice for coffee newfags who are making their very first foray into good coffee, and are starting from scratch.

They probably don't want to spend a lot of money at first, so it sounds insane when we tell them to spend $80 on a timemore grinder that—horror of horrors—isn't even electric. Especially when r*ddit gives them the terrible advice of buying a $30 aeropress and a $40-$60 hario grinder. $40 for a grinder seems much more reasonable by contrast. But they're wrong.

You can get an aeropress and Hario grinder for $70-$90.
Or, for $90 you can get a v60 and timemore slim, which will serve you far better.

Yeah, the aeropress is more forgiving of poor grind quality than a v60, but a timemore is good enough you WON'T NEED something forgiving.
Yeah, the aeropress is harder to drastically fuck up, but once you get the hang of it, a v60 almost always gives better flavor definition and sweetness.
My recommendation is less about hating on the Aeropress, and more about getting newbies to buy a real grinder from the beginning.

Don't get me wrong, I like my aeropress. This morning, I made a cup with it and enjoyed it. Even though there are many valid criticisms, and I much prefer v60 brews, I think people that hate on it are either incorrect, prefer other methods, are trolling, or some combo thereof. But the aeropress shouldn't be your only brewer, and it should NEVER be prioritized over a high quality grinder.

>>13516751
The press doesn't extract more solubles from the coffee. What happens is if you press hard, you force more solids through the filter, leading to a thicker body/mouthfeel. If you press slowly (regardless of pressure exerted) the coffee sits in the brew water for longer time and extracts a little bit more. The aeropress differs from a french press because of the paper filter (big difference), the speed, and the stirring. (You can stir a french press but you'll be drinking silt cuz no paper filter.)

[Anonymous No.13517003]

>>13516839
>>13516839
Sorry I guess I wasn't clear on my intentions with different pressing pressures. I started considering pressure in pursuit of a consistent cup. I'm not trying to emulate espresso with the Aeropress. I just wanted to make excellent coffee at home. And I found pressure is definitely a variable.

>https://www.aeropress.co.uk/pages/faqs
The trouble with this faq is that they used a 90 pound hipster for the test and excluded metal portafilters. First, I could easily reach 75 pounds and with some clumsy poses I could make more if I was willing. And if I put it on the floor, forget it. I could put over 160 pounds on the thing but I'm not brewing coffee off the kitchen floor nor slav-squatting over a coffee press so forget that number.

So if you used a metal portafilter with a .5" total aperture at 75lbs of pressure that works out to 150psi. Which translates to 10.204 bar. I'm told ideal espresso pressure is 9-10 bar, but still under debate. I don't know. Haven't made much of that.

All that said, I don't think aiming to make espresso with an Aeropress is a good idea. But it's definitely not because of some inability for the press to reach high pressures. It makes more sense that Aeropress cannot into espresso because it doesn't use steam. But since I've never experimented with Aerospresso, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.13517004]

What do you guys use for creamer? I can't drink coffee without it but I want to stop using shitty chemical coffeemate and other stuff you can buy at the grocery.

[Anonymous No.13517105]

>>13517003
If you scroll up you'll see I posted a picture of some faggot whiteknuckling the ap on a rock to show how convenient it is. If you try to put 75lbs of pressure on an aeropress you're going to shatter your mug like a sperg and we're all going to laugh at you. Its an immersion brewer. Its going to immerse grounds in water. Its not meant for pressure brewing, and its just not going to make a better "american" style coffee than a v60. Its the worst of both worlds at 3x the price.

[Anonymous No.13517128]

>>13517003
>But it's definitely not because of some inability for the press to reach high pressures. It makes more sense that Aeropress cannot into espresso because it doesn't use steam. But since I've never experimented with Aerospresso, I don't know.


>Doesn't use steam

?????

[Anonymous No.13517141]

>>13507007
Any whole bean that you burr grind yourself and is not folgers or another namebrand

[Anonymous No.13517147]

>>13517004
use milk or cream you faggot.

[Anonymous No.13517148]

>>13513343
looking good my dude

[Anonymous No.13517163]

>>13517105
>If you scroll up you'll see I posted a picture of some faggot whiteknuckling the ap on a rock to show how convenient it is.

Yeah, he looks like a tool but he's hiking somewhere I hope. I never drink coffee on any hike more than a one-day foray. Just tea.

>If you try to put 75lbs of pressure on an aeropress you're going to shatter your mug like a sperg and we're all going to laugh at you

Yanno, I always mentally prepare for the mug to implode when I press a coffee but it hasn't happened yet. I'm honestly suprised. But I'm guessing I only use about 3.5 bar of pressure. I wouldn't do 75 pounds on a ceramic mug regularly without taking a video for the public's viewing pleasure of the inevitable violence.

>>13517004
You mean you want just use half and half? My woman puts flavored syrups in hers to get that "vanilla" "almond" "cottonfuckingcandy" flavor in there when she feels like drinking a milkshake. I find excellent coffee doesn't need or want other flavors. Maybe upgrade your coffee first instead.

[Anonymous No.13517182]

>>13517004
Milk, Cream, or Liquors

[Anonymous No.13517188]

>>13516962
Thanks. This sounds like sound advice. I can empathize with the sticker shock on a grinder. It must be a handmade peice with precision .001" manufacturing tolerances usually reserved for racing crankshafts. I'll get the v60 right away and the hand grinder later. My chinese grinds seem real even, without pulling out the microscope and digital calipers.

Somewhat related: I'm reading a lot of people using an aeropress "inverted". Please don't do this. It will brew a dose of rubber plunger as well as coffee. Which should taste awful, feel awful, and there are cooler ways to get cancer.

Unrelated: f*uck r*ddit. "Upvoting" circus of circle-jerks.

[Anonymous No.13517193]

>>13517128
Rephrase: "It makes more sense that Aeropress cannot into espresso because Aeropress doesn't use steam".

[Anonymous No.13517204]

>>13512943
I have an aero but it was a gift so I take that into it. I also have no tastebuds and use kirkland ground coffee
My roommates have a Technivorm moccamaster and buy organic costco beans, shits good. But Im not sure id want to ever drop the money on a technivorm. Does anyone else have one?

[Anonymous No.13517208]

>>13516381
Fuck Nestle
Now that I got that out of the way, I did really like (and I think it was nespresso) a variety that was mexican style and had cinnamon blended in, I can't find it anywhere. Did I dream it?

[Anonymous No.13517272]

>>13517208
Your description reminds me of this stuff. Maybe you can't find it because it was the creamer you were using and not the coffee itself. Either way, mexican mocha might be your tastes.

What do you do for a living that you can't remember what coffee you drank? I thought I was busy.

[Anonymous No.13517278]

uhhhhhhh, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.13517283]

>>13516751
>The main difference between pour-over and immersion brewing is how much water hits the coffee and when. Immersion you add all the water at once. Pour-over you add the water in increments.

Not quite. Brewed coffee is a solution of the stuff inside coffee beans. Immersion and percolation are different approaches to extracting said stuff.
>Immersion steeps coffee grounds in water
French press, cowboy coffee, cold brew, clever dripper, siphon, and aeropress (mostly).
>Percolation moves fresh water through coffee grounds
Espresso, pour over, drip machines, kyoto style cold brew, and percolators (kinda).

The biggest difference between immersion and percolation is immersion relies on standing water to extract coffee solubles, and that standing water is itself the brewed coffee solution.
As the brew water becomes coffee, it loses the ability to extract the grounds because as the solubles in the water go up, the solubles still in the beans stop wanting to come out.

And since percolation means fresh water is constantly passing through a coffee bed, it extracts more efficiently since the brew water isn't already full of dissolved solubles.

Basically it's easier to get higher extractions from percolation than from immersion, so it has greater potential to taste really good or really bad. Also, you need to bloom your coffee by adding 2-3x its weight in hot water and letting the beans offgas CO2 for 30-45s. This way the brew water has an easier time getting up close and personal with the coffee.

(Immersion might be easier to get even extractions though. Maybe.)

>Aeropress "mostly" immersion
If brewed standard, some coffee dribbles into the cup. You could grind coarsely and use an aeropress as the world's most retarded pourover. You might find the right ratio/grind/time/press to make a legit high-speed percolation.
>Percolator "kinda" percolation:
First, it moves fresh water through coffee. Then it moves brewed coffee through coffee. So... I dunno.

[Anonymous No.13517293]

>>13517278

Way too much and salt tends to help more if the coffee brew comes out sour.

[Anonymous No.13517306]

>>13517278
It probably works best if you brew shitty bitter coffee since salt helps mask bitterness. I don't know about coffee that already tastes good on its own, since I haven't tried it. Maybe it's great though, who knows?

[Anonymous No.13517443]

>>13517188
The rubber on the plunger is actually the least worrisome part because it's silicone which is pretty safe.

Also the Timemore is itself a chinese grinder. They're based in I think Taiwan, but it's probably made in China. If you want the kind of engineering autism you're talking about in a hand grinder, you're gonna have to get a Kinu for $200-$344 depending on the model. But hooooly shit what a grinder. One full rotation of the adjustment mechanism is subdivided into 50 micrometrical steps. Each tiny division moves the burrs exactly 0.01 millimeters with a little click.

Depending on which model baratza, you might be better off skipping the timemore and saving for a Kinu. I've never owned a baratza so I can't say how it compares to a timemore, but unless it's, say, a baratza forte, it won't come close to a Kinu.

>>13517193
>Rephrase: "It makes more sense that Aeropress cannot into espresso because Aeropress doesn't use steam".
Making espresso doesn't have anything to do with steam, only pressure. Steam is one way to generate pressure, but it's not the best. Most espresso machines have a pump to generate the requisite water pressure to make espresso. And manual machines like the robot and flair don't even use electricity — you pour in hot water and use lever arms to force water through the puck of coffee.

A moka pot, for example, generates steam pressure, but it can't make espresso because it can't reach the right pressures. It makes strong coffee, but it's not espresso.

The reason an aeropress can't into espresso is because the aeropress can't into espresso. It has nothing to do with steam.

[Anonymous No.13517484]

>>13517278
>Salt in the coffee grounds.
No.
>Salt in the creamer.
No.
>A touch of salt in the half and half before you froth it into foam.
Yes.

My ex used to put a dash of cinnamon in the brew basket of the auto drip brewer. That did seem to take some of the battery-acid taste out. But just brew good coffee instead. Dash some cinnamon on your milk froth if you want that.

>>13517283
This theory makes sense. It seems like there's too many ways to use the AP. I only use the AP at the last possible second to filter out the grinds. I combine the hot water and grinds in a hot ceramic mug. Definitely immersion brewing.

Once I git gud with the v60, I'll know the correct drip-rate for good pour-over coffee. Then with that reference I'm going to try AeroPotato-pourover. For science.

[Anonymous No.13517512]

>>13517204
God damn moccamasters are great. 99% of EVERY other drip machine uses the same aluminum element. It doesn't get up to temp and inevitably fails. Moccamasters(and a few other high end drips) use solid copper elements. Truly buyitforlife quality.

>gift aeropress
Its the thought that counts but if you want decent coffee its just going to take up space. Use that moccamaster while you've got it available. Maybe order some real nice beans online every once in a while to thank the roomies.

[Anonymous No.13517572]

>>13513838
Thanks Anon. I tried hard to find a decent pour over without ordering one online, cause fuck (((bezos))) ya know, but I ended up getting a pirmura cold brew carafe to experiment with. So far so good, I'm using a local roasters espresso roast on a coarse grind, 12 hours of brew was a little too mild for my taste but we'll see how good it is in the morning. Definitely had a strong enough kick though, I might have to dilute it Americano style

[Anonymous No.13517679]

>>13517004
Personally, I drink my coffee black. Partly for weird diet reasons, but mostly because I make good enough coffee that I feel adding cream or sugar would fuck it up.

If you don't like your black coffee and don't want to use weird concoctions like coffeemate, use actual cream. Or milk. Or half and half.
If you want it sweet, use sugar. If you don't want the carbs from sugar, use swerve or lakanto.

>>13517572
Oh. Yeah, you dilute cold brew if you make it as a concentrate (and 1:8 is moste definitely a concentrate) because it's 1. strong and 2. an ungodly amount of caffeine unless you use decaf. Cold brew usually tastes smooth, with little bitterness or acidity, because cool/cold water is much worse at extraction than hot water. Interestingly it extracts the caffeine just fine. Some people say cold brew tastes flat or stale and is a waste of high quality beans because when you extract using cool water, you're leaving flavor on the table. Which, yeah, you are, but that just means you can use cheaper (even pre-ground store bought) beans to make decent cold brew. For example, while I haven't tried it myself, people apparently really like pic related as cold brew.

[Anonymous No.13517849]

>>13517512
Thanks for the input. All I know is my parents fell in love with a Vorm at a vacation house a million years ago, and its been at the top of their wishlist for a while now. I'll probably buy them one soon. I love the carafe on ours.
As for coffee, I usually only drink a cup of theirs to wake up (they can't finish the pot themselves anyway) then switch to my own cheap shit with the Aero. My sister (and the roommates) go to Hawaii couple times a year, between them all maybe 4 times a year. Whenever they go I give them money to bring back good coffee.
So now my question is, which Hawaiian coffee should I seek? Kona seems like a meme, and obviously its up to preference, but maybe there is one that is better than the other..if only for price, or someone that knows inside workings, or variety?

[Anonymous No.13518075]

GUISE
Used Kinu M47 for $310 https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/kinu/m47-us-e-kinu-sp

>>13517849
Kona pretty much IS the variety. It's like Geisha or Jamaican Blue Mountain or Yemen. Just try not to get blends with low percentages of actual Kona, get actual 100% kona coffee. IIRC Hawaiian coffee growers sued some people for selling coffee blends labeled "Pure Kona" that only had 10% actual Kona coffee in it, because the blends were giving legit Kona a bad rap. Get it roasted fresh.

Ideally, buy it yourself online so you know it's legit and freshly roasted. It's pretty expensive relative to other specialty coffee if I recall, and I can't tell you whether it's worth it since I haven't tried any.

Kopi Luak or whatever it's called IS 100% a meme. Apparently it's just smooth low acid coffee—and indonesian coffees are already smooth low acid coffees—that's famous just because it used to be the world's most expensive coffee, and that one Jack Nickelson movie.

>>13517572
>cause fuck (((bezos)))
?
You can order from places other than Amazon you know.
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/hario/v60-02
Get a plastic one because plastic=better thermal insulation=better temp stability=better coffee. Or get ceramic or whatever if you're (justifiably) paranoid about plastic. Make sure to get size 02 filters too. Many people prefer tabless because they drawdown maybe 20s faster than the tabbed, and think they brew slightly better. I haven't tried tabless cuz so far, tabbed work great for me, and I can buy more at a time.

[Anonymous No.13518377]

>>13506020
Apparently I've been making too strong of coffee, french press 60g for a 12oz cup.

[Anonymous No.13518393]

is hoffman a hack?

[Anonymous No.13518512]

>>13518393
No?

[Anonymous No.13518556]

>>13518393
James Hoffman, the slightly gay british coffee guy? No...

Why?
>>13518377
Strength is really a matter of taste, so if you like it then it's not too strong. Still though 60 grams holy shit lol

[Anonymous No.13518614]

how the fuck do I roast my own coffee? Put beans in my saucepan?

[Anonymous No.13518630]

>>13518556
>Strength is really a matter of taste, so if you like it then it's not too strong. Still though 60 grams holy shit lol

I've been doing it this way for years so I'm kind of just used to it now. I'd also let it steep for like 15-20 minutes too. Going to try 30g and 5min tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.13518638]

>>13506020
I love me some instant type 2 coffee
nothing tastes better than this

[Anonymous No.13518639]

>>13517004
evaporated milk

[Anonymous No.13518660]

>>13518614
>>13507339
>>13513343

https://www.sweetmarias.com/nostalgia-electric-popcorn-popper.html

[Anonymous No.13518843]

>>13517004
What the fuck? Cream, half & half, or milk.

[Anonymous No.13519803]

>>13518638

[Anonymous No.13519926]

>>13518638
get that onto a tray, be looking pretty nice

[Anonymous No.13519945]

>>13518638
>comes with mandatory iodized salt packet to keep Moshe from stealing sips of your coffee
based

[Anonymous No.13520310]

Bought a batch of some nice specialty coffee last month and now that I went through it all going back to industrial coffee feels wrong. It barely smells like anything and is actually difficult to drink.
Got myself another expensive hobby it seems.

[Anonymous No.13520318]

How does the french press compare to the moka pot? Let's say I use the same ratios and beans.

[Anonymous No.13520323]

>>13520318
One uses a weak pressure to extract, the other steep infusion. Moka tends to be a bit stronger I hear, though both are going to be more similar to each other than pour-over.

[Anonymous No.13520327]

>French pressing coffee before I go to teach children
>Mfw I love my job so coffee makes it even better

[Anonymous No.13520331]

>>13518638
What do you think Steve would have thought?
https://youtu.be/VNmXy8IW0e0

[Anonymous No.13520334]

>>13506020
What would happen if you injected 10ml of coffee intramuscularly?

[Anonymous No.13520355]

>>13517004

[Anonymous No.13520404]

What cure my coffeine withdrawal?And how many coffee i may drink after this without withdrawal?

[Anonymous No.13520451]

>>13520404
Don't drink it for two weeks. Then only drink one coffee a day. That's what I did.

[Anonymous No.13520460]

>>13520451
Well,i don't drinl coffee and tea from Monday.Today i feel very bad.How i make feel better without coffee?

[Anonymous No.13520474]

>>13520460
That's normal, after the first week the big withdrawals should go away. After the second week you'll more or less completely reset your tolerance.
Nothing you can do except wait it out, just keep in mind that it will be all gone in a few days. Drink a lot of water, do exercise and other things you enjoy. If you have headaches take aspirin/ibuprofen.

[Anonymous No.13520486]

>>13520474
Thanks.What sort of instant coffee you recommend to european?

[Anonymous No.13520520]

>>13520486
Gevalia boi

[Anonymous No.13520722]

Who else doing their morning calibrations?

[Anonymous No.13520765]

Drinking some French Press Ethiopian Keramo roasted in the SR800 shits cash.

[Anonymous No.13520825]

>>13520765
It's so light, it's beautiful

[Anonymous No.13520879]

>>13520765

[Anonymous No.13520920]

Thinking of buying one of those crisis capsule espresso machines. Are they good or a meme?

[Anonymous No.13521048]

>>13520920
Save your money.

>>13520765
Looks fantastic. What time did you hit first crack at?

>>13520722
I "rebuilt" the vent/chaff trap on my roaster last night and now my times are all fucked :/ Might have to restrict the oven a bit to keep temp up.

[Anonymous No.13521062]

>>13520722
Victoria Park? If an autistic looking dude gives you a strange look some time this week it's probably me.

[Anonymous No.13521072]

>>13521048
>hit first crack
Around 8 minutes.

[Anonymous No.13521196]

>>13521062
Correct. You must be one of my regulars.
>Autistic looking guy
Could just be my reflection in all fairness.

[Anonymous No.13521986]

>>13506020
Today I had my coffee black with a spoon of low sugar vitamin added nesquik powder and a small Italian chocolate cake

[Anonymous No.13522026]

So I've got these little chips of pressed bud from making rosin. I think the next move is smallbatching some ghee/mct oil and making medicated bulletproof coffe or whatever. Any thoughts? Little spoonful of high quality budder to round out rough mornings.

[Anonymous No.13522242]

>>13521986
>black
>a spoon of low sugar vitamin added nesquik powder
So not black.

[Anonymous No.13522266]

>>13522026
I did an alcohol extraction using 151 rum and sous vide the other day. Still playing around with dosing. I added 1 tsp to a cuppa and it added some rum flavor but didn't seem boozy.

[Anonymous No.13522494]

Lads, we just got this CV while I was on break. According to my colleague who received it, pink hair and overweight. I already work with a "non binary anarcho communist". Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.13522821]

>>13522494
>this is coffee related

[Anonymous No.13522987]

>>13522242
lol I literally had a post like that typed up, captcha completed, and then deleted it because I figured it's possible that by
>I had my coffee black with a spoon of X
He meant
>I had my coffee with nothing but a spoon of X

[Anonymous No.13523344]

>>13522821
>this is coffee related

this is coffee related

[Anonymous No.13523381]

>>13523344
How? There is little context

[Anonymous No.13523569]

>>13523381
What do you mean? Its clearly this guy....

>>13520722
>>13522494

[Anonymous No.13523586]

>>13523569
I thought it could be, but nothing on there says Barista though.

[Anonymous No.13523671]

>>13523586
>DSC_0001.jpg (2.89 MB, 3264x2448)
>DSC_0004.jpg (2.83 MB, 3264x2448)

>What do you mean? Its clearly this guy....

[Anonymous No.13523683]

>>13523671
Call me retarded then and get it over with. Also the person applying is stupid if they think anything on that resume would be relevant to making coffee.

[Anonymous No.13524008]

>>13523683
Lol I don't want you to feel bad, I want you to be more observant. Comes in handy.

Back on topic I roasted some of these up and forgot to time it. Fuck. Roasted a little bit into second crack. Going to let it offgas for a couple days like he says.

[Anonymous No.13524245]

What's the best instant coffee?

[Anonymous No.13524272]

My S and W coffee is coming in tomorrow lads. It took longer than the Happy Mug I usually get, but it tastes better so it's fine. I'm hyped to make a cup in the morning.

[Anonymous No.13524279]

>>13507451
>not getting a Lido ET
>not changing the burrset to etzinger

The upgrade definitely is worth it.

[Anonymous No.13524282]

>>13507007
>What is good coffee?
Find a third wave cafe around you and ask for a light roast brewed with a pour over. Drink it black and realize what you've been missing. I had a Colombian today at such a cafe. I don't love Colombians, but it was fucking tasty. It reminded me of diner coffee, but with just a hint of dark chocolate and a pleasant sweetness.

[Anonymous No.13524286]

>>13507474
moccamaster

[Anonymous No.13524308]

>>13524279
Lidos are junk.

[Anonymous No.13524318]

>live with sister in town home, she deployed for 6 months but is coming back in less than a week
>only noticed 10 minutes ago she left coffee in the pot before she left
>thick layer of mold floating over the months old coffee

I can just soak this shit in soap and it'll be okay, right?

[Anonymous No.13524535]

>>13524279
>Lido
SHIGGY DIGGY

[Anonymous No.13524539]

>>13524318
Dishwasher maybe? Bleach solution and then dishwasher if you wanna be sure. I'd be more worried about the machine cuz that'll be harder to sanitize

[Anonymous No.13524678]

>>13515132
I am tempted. I have an encore that I could give to my girlfriend's brother while getting this.

[Anonymous No.13524872]

>>13524008
From the looks of it I'd be more concerned with inconsistency than duration. What roaster are you using?

[Anonymous No.13524934]

>>13513068
dude, french press with the right grinds and water from a kuerig makes it perfect every time. 4 to 5 minutes and pour it.

[Anonymous No.13525129]

>>13524934
Even the cheapest french press is gonna be more expensive than a v60 (unless you get it at a thrift store maybe) which makes it easier for newfags to get a good grinder.

And a French press sucks ass to clean. (Unless you're the sort of retard who pours coffee grounds down the drain.)

I just don't like them, personally. I prefer the v60 flavor-wise, and French Press takes longer to brew. But it's simple, doesn't rely as much on technique, and it can make more coffee at a time if that's something you need. It also pulls double duty for making cold brew if you're into that sort of thing. (That's literally all I use my french press for.)

So while I think the v60 is the better choice for babby's first brewer, a french press could be their second. Probably everybody should get one at some point.

[Anonymous No.13525229]

>>13524872
Air roaster. Its not too inconsistent, just a blend.

[Anonymous No.13525254]

>>13515132
>>13524678
I just ordered it. Pretty excited to try it. Will post my thoughts here when it arrives if you guys are interested.

Oh and apparently there's Chinese new years or something in a bit, so if you're interested you should either order now or wait until it's over.

[Anonymous No.13525286]

>>13525229
Are you blending pre-roast? Looks like you could improve your blend massively if you dial in each roast individually.

[Anonymous No.13525502]

I only ask it's organic and whole bean
But rule 1 applies first

[Anonymous No.13526102]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13526164]

>>13525286
Yeah its this shit. Not my blend, just a free lb sweet Maria's sent.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/sweet-maria-s-liquid-amber-espresso-blend.html

[Anonymous No.13526168]

Why do people say French Presses are hard to clean? I just dump out the grounds and rinse everything off it takes less than a minute. Maybe once a month a deep clean.

[Anonymous No.13526351]

>>13526168
I can only speak for myself, but... I never want to have coffee grounds go down the sink because they don't dissolve and can cause blockages. Because of that, scooping all the soggy grounds into the trash when they're trying to cling to the glass of the press fucking sucks. I always end up with just few enough grounds in the bottom that they won't fall out on their own, but they're still too much to rinse into the sink. After getting rest of the grounds out, I rinse it.

Also, the metal mesh filter, filter holder/support mechanism, and the spring around the outside edge of the filter is a bitch to get all the grounds out of.

Compared to a v60 or aeropress it's much more tedious.

[Anonymous No.13527331]

How good does your home roasted coffee come out? Is it comparable to the quality of, say, happymug? How do light, fruity, African coffees turn out? You ever roast decaf?

[Anonymous No.13527384]

>>13526351
I use the no plunge method so the grounds are still a bit watery at the end I just dump them in the trash and rinse out the rest. I also unscrew the filter and quick rinse and wipe with my fingers gets all the grounds out.

[Anonymous No.13527778]

>>13507327
fuck you

[Anonymous No.13527832]

>>13506078
So strong

[Anonymous No.13527989]

>>13523586
>>13523671
Can confirm it was me.
It's been a long day boys, absolutely dead, anyone else here work in a coffee shop?

[Anonymous No.13529323]

bump

[Anonymous No.13529923]

Timemore C1 seems to be the only grinder that fits my budget. Anyone with a timemore wanna tell me if its decent? Will be using for drip and french press, maybe espresso in the future

[Anonymous No.13529935]

>>13527778
Whats with the fuck you? People get shits from coffee. I do and I fucking love the shit. I revel in the shits. Fuck my rectum.

[Anonymous No.13530129]

>>13529923
Save another month and get this instead
>>13515132

[Anonymous No.13530262]

>>13529923
It'll be better than anything like a hario or porlex with ceramic burrs, but beyond that I don't know since I don't have any experience with the c1. I can tell you for sure that the Timemore Slim is pretty good. The axle on the slim is stabilized by bearings, and it seems the c1 is stabilized by a plastic sleeve.

The c1 isn't in the realm of "high end" grinders. I'm guessing it's more like "the best low end grinder" which is like being the world's tallest midget. The Timemore slim is probably going to be much better. The c1 is brand new and I don't know of any reviews for it but I can personally vouch for the slim. Either way, judging from my personal experience and what reviews I've seen, Timemore make solid grinders.

That said, NO Timemore grinder is capable of grinding for espresso. The adjustment mechanism uses big steps, so you can't make the fine adjustments needed to dial in espresso.

Also, NO ghost tooth burr grinders like the xeoleo mentioned here >>13515132 or a Fuji Royal or an OE Apex are capable of grinding for espresso either. So if you're serious about eventually getting into espresso, you're probably looking at a Kinu M47 Phoenix at least. Even at $200 it's the best value espresso grinder on earth in terms of cost/performance, but it doesn't sound like that's in your budget right now.

tl;dr:
>Timemore=good
>Timemore Slim=good
>Timemore C1=?

[Anonymous No.13530666]

>>13530129
That takes too much space in my tiny kitchen

>>13530262
The M47 is waaay out of budget right now, sucks to be a poorfag student, I was looking at the cheaper harios but none of them felt well built. The C1 I can get for a little more, and it seems like it could be good.

[Anonymous No.13530684]

>>13530666
They're a better option than the harios but not at the level of the great ones. It can't do espresso, like already said. If you're fine with that buy it, else save up.
Also consider the Comandante instead of the Kinu if you choose to save up, it is superior for filter but worse for espresso.

[Anonymous No.13530751]

Anybody know about blue bottle coffee franchise?
Had the chance to go into one of their shops in Tokyo, very nice. ~5,50€ for one of those cappucino cups.

[Anonymous No.13530777]

>>13530751
>paying that much to get served coffee in paper cups
>going to japan to visit an american chain
bruv

[Anonymous No.13530831]

>>13530777
Are you implying I shouldn't have paid 5,50 but instead go somewhere else in tokyo where it is cheaper and the quality is the same? How would I know where this shop is?
Are you implying I visited Japan solely for the reason to see american franchises around the world?

[Anonymous No.13530928]

So what's the best V60 method? I tried James Hoffman's method and the 4:6 method and couldn't tell much difference desu

[Anonymous No.13530940]

Can I use Hario v60 02 filters in my 01 v60? I guess they'd just go a bit over the edge or something?

[Anonymous No.13530963]

>>13530928
>the 4:6 method
It's doesn't do shit, just wast your time. I have a hario smart 7 coffee maker, set it to different methods, use different V60 cones, different grinding size, it change nothing. The 4:6 method is pure japanese bullshit crap.

[Anonymous No.13530970]

Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.13530977]

tfw poorfag so no grinder for maximum taste

:(

[Anonymous No.13531070]

I'm almost out of coffee, need to buy some more.
Either I get the basic bitch San Marco pur arabica or I spend extra on a grinded Columbian or Kenyan stuff at the coffee/tea seller.
Used to use the pressing one but you can only use it with a special grind diameter and not the industrial ones.
The Italian machine works fine and gets me two mugs.

I'm out of sugar so I added a bit of cinnamon to trick my tongue.
Minimum 2 mugs at breakfast, 4 shitty ones at the coffee machine at the job and 2 more mugs when I get back home.
When I'm out of coffee, I switch to chicory.

[Anonymous No.13531091]

>>13530970
You could also make your own coffee and add hazelnut, chestnut or gingerbread syrup.
At breakfast it's great.

[Anonymous No.13531148]

>>13530684
I'd say the build quality on the comandante is worse enough than a kinu and they're close enough in the cup for filter coffee (plus it sounds like kinu's new burr may surpass the comandante) that the Kinu is the better choice.

>>13530666
Last I checked the Timemeore Slim ($80) wasn't much more than the C1 on aliexpress and it'll definitely be worth the extra cost. And until you decide to make espresso you won't exactly "need" a better grinder once you have the Slim.

[Anonymous No.13531152]

>>13531070
how's the alessi?
>>13530977
save up for a timemore slim from aliexpress. You'll be amazed at the difference it makes.

[Anonymous No.13531167]

>>13531152
Pretty great. I got it from my father.
Only con is that the handle conducts the heat so you need to be careful holding it.

[Anonymous No.13531202]

>>13531148
Than the Phoenix? Not really. There's really no reason not to go for Comandante if majority of what you do is filter. It can do espresso too later with the red crix thingie.

[Anonymous No.13531390]

>>13531167
Is it steel or aluminum?
>>13531202
At $250 the comandante is $50 more than the phoenix, and within $20 of the Simplicity. It's not $50 better than the Phoenix, and the Simplicity is basically an M47 with a plastic catch cup. I just don't see the commandante as a good value.

[Anonymous No.13531423]

>>13531390
It costs 210€ here. Only 10€ more. The Comandante makes noticeably clearer cups for filter.

[Anonymous No.13531490]

>>13531423
>It costs 210€ here.
Oh. Well that makes way more sense lol. If you just want filter and you’re a eurofag then the Comandante’s a pretty good choice.

[Anonymous No.13531523]

>>13531390
Steel. Inox 18/10.

[Anonymous No.13531611]

>>13530666
I think you'll be way happier saving for the phoenix. You're only going to buy it once, it'll take care of all of your grinding needs. You buy that timemore? It's going to get replaced. Maybe you've got a buddy or family member to pass it to, most likely its going to sit there on your counter as an $80 reminder of your impatience.

[Anonymous No.13532574]

Cortadito time

[Anonymous No.13532603]

>>13532574
>That's so sad
>Alexa make a cortadito

[Anonymous No.13532608]

Just bought a gevi 15 bar, currently blending some Nicaraguan peaberry. I've been pulling 10g per shot with 50g liquid output. 16 second pull. Fucking DANK. Any tips on how to increase my pull time?

[Anonymous No.13532624]

>>13532603
It's from wawa; I get them unsweetened. Also I dont have thot bot Alexa. I do want to follow through and make a Jarvis though.

[Anonymous No.13532943]

Where do I order coffee from? There is only one roaster nearby and their single origins are kind of mediocre so I have been ordering from Brandywine. Usually Brandywine has free shipping over $30 so I buy two bags but I went to order more earlier and it was trying to charge me for shipping. I thought about Drinktrade but I don't need coffee that frequently.

[Anonymous No.13533034]

>>13532943
Find what you want on drinktrade and find the roasters website. They'll be more than happy to sell to you.

[Anonymous No.13533595]

>>13524008
Single origin or a blend anon?
They all look about the same size so I'm curious.
How can one learn to roast coffee without spending $1,000+ on a course?

[Anonymous No.13534032]

>>13533595
Its this shit. https://www.sweetmarias.com/sweet-maria-s-liquid-amber-espresso-blend.html

Buy the $20 popper they sell, watch some youtube videos, wire it up to artisan with a tc4+.

[Anonymous No.13534165]

>>13534032
I've never thought about roasting coffee in a popcorn popper before. It sounds like a meme, but on paper... Should, work?
Is that how you do it?

[Anonymous No.13534344]

>>13534165
Yeah, its just a small batch(85gram) fluid bed roaster. Forces hot air through a moving bean mass. I've only done about an lb through it so far, but I'm very happy with the shots I've been pulling. You can drop another ~$100 and wire up the heater and fan to individual channels on an arduino + pid for artisan integration. That's what I'n working on next. Once I burn out the popper I'll still have the artisan control board to build something custom like this next. Seems like a no brainer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1EvRdQgnXg

This is exactly how the popper works. Heater + fan.

[Anonymous No.13534403]

Anyone own a Dedica? Thinking of getting one with an pressurized basket. Either that or a Duo Temp Pro for my first machine.

Any other recommendations welcome, will be pairing with a sette 270

[Anonymous No.13534525]

>>13510332
>Espresso would probably take over a minute.
into the trash.
Anyone reccomend a decent electric grinder. I am not an autist I just want it to not ruin the coffee. Coffee beans that would deserve an grinder forged by virgin elves in a cave aren't sold here anyway.
I want something to go with a espresso maker to make americanos and shit

[Anonymous No.13535332]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13535367]

>>13534344
I was thinking that it'd work as a good fluid bed roaster.
I eventually want to open my own place back home and use a fluid bed for my own coffee.
Apart from that, morning lads.
>17g of espresso
>24 seconds total extraction time
>40g of espresso out
>sweet, with a hint of sour. Nice earthy chocolate and light honey notes

[Anonymous No.13535384]

>>13534525
order beans online

[Anonymous No.13535404]

Because there has been talk about cortados in this thread, thought I'd post this picture of a ristretto shot and a cortado shot side by side, the ristretto on the left has been sipped on, the cortado is on the righ and only extracted for 12 seconds. You start counting from when the espresso starts to leave the portafilters.

[Anonymous No.13535454]

Timemore slim or wilfa svart? Can get them for more or less the same price, I like the transportability of a hand grinder but the wilfa is less daily effort. Is there a significant difference in grind quality for french press and v60?

[Anonymous No.13535698]

>>13534525
Kinu M47 Phoenix. It's got 47mm burrs. It won't take anywhere near a minute to grind, say, 17g for espresso. Maybe 30-45 seconds depending on the bean? I'm not the phoenix/espresso anon but I do have a Kinu and it's fast and easy to grind.

>>13535454
The timemore is pretty good. Don't have experience with the wilfa. But generally speaking, a manual grinder will outperform an electric at the same price range. If you're going to be grinding a lot at a time, then the wilfa will have a larger capacity than the Slim's 20-25g. Grinding two batches with the slim isn't a problem but if you'll mostly be doing 60g at a time than maybe the convenience of the wilfa will beat the timemore.

Also I don't think the wilfa is a zero retention grinder if you care about that.

[Anonymous No.13536110]

>>13534525
>>13535698
Over a minute was my estimate for 30g of espresso. If I'm grinding for the 14g basket on my machine it's around 30 seconds. I don't think it's worth paying extra for the 47mm unless you're grinding for a crowd or you really like making Turkish.

[Anonymous No.13536151]

>>13535367
>pulling ristrettos in 2020
Care to explain yourself before I eviscerate you for your lack of taste?

[Anonymous No.13536172]

>>13535404
Huh. I didn't realize so little coffee went into a cortado. Is it so it balances better with the milk? I know you mentioned in another thread that cortado are supposed to have a sweet and sour taste to them. That'd why you pull them shorter so you extract only the sour and some sweet notes.

[Anonymous No.13536183]

>>13536110
what grinder are you using?

[Anonymous No.13536217]

>>13536183
Helor 101. It's an excellent grinder but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone outside of China. The international price is very inflated. I picked one up cheaply when I was over there.

[Anonymous No.13536220]

>>13536151
In the place I work, I'm using ristretto shots for a few reasons. Chiefly, it's easier to train in other staff to how we do things if we keep a standard. I can calibrate my coffee to make a delicious shot that runs form anything between 27/32 seconds but I can't do that and expect staff with limited coffee knowledge how to make a cortado or flat white with those timings on the fly.
So that's one reason, the other is that ristrettos are a little stronger in flavour as they aren't getting watered down with anything past 21 seconds, which allows me to put a double ristretto shot that weighs in at around 40ish grams into a 16oz cup and still taste like coffee. I'm not saying that I feel that coffee should be served in a 16oz cup at all. I firmly believe that 8oz is the perfect size and 12oz is pushing it. My boss wants a 16oz size drink and I have to accommodate her with a coffee shot that is simple enough for the other staff to get to grips with and still maintains most of its flavour across all sizes of drink we serve.
I'm not happy serving drinks in a 16oz size but I do enjoy getting paid.

>>13536172
Yeah. And for reference that glass is 4.5oz. If I served it in anything bigger it would get diluted down and just taste really milky.

[Anonymous No.13536240]

>>13536220
Sorry, I didn't realise you were the barista anon who has been posting in this thread. I thought you were pulling ristrettos to drink on their own.

Long milk drinks are a blight on the industry. Stay strong.

[Anonymous No.13536434]

>>13536217
>The international price is very inflated.
yeah it's insane

[Anonymous No.13536589]

what's a good quality coffeemaker that makes a single small cup but isn't Keurig

[Anonymous No.13536665]

>>13536589
v60 retard

[Anonymous No.13536684]

>>13536589
If by small you mean like 200ml, an aeropress or v60 01, if anything more than that, a v60 02. The aeropress will be faster than a v60 but the v60 will be simpler to use and probably make better coffee.

If you don't already have a good grinder, you'll need to get one.

tl;dr: v60+grinder

[Anonymous No.13536781]

>>13536684
sounds good I just know I want an amount that would be a regular sized coffee cup and somewhere between 4-6 ounces I don't want to waste coffee or drink too much of it anymore

[Anonymous No.13537670]

>>13535367
Where's home? America's fucked, let me bounce with you and have a job lined up. I'll master roasting in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.13537716]

>>13506020
I usually only drink one in the morning. (with the 'senseo' machine pads) if I get one or 2 coffee at work, that's ok.
always black without sugar.

I recently started grinding coffee beans with a small old coffee grinder from 1952 from my grandma.
works great, but I only had a French press for like 1,5 liters, so this shit doesn't work with just 1 cup of coffee, bought a small silver one last week, works great for just 1 big cup of coffee. it's great.

[Anonymous No.13537740]

What do you guys think about the Chemex?

[Anonymous No.13537767]

>>13536781

200ml is about 6 oz retard

[Anonymous No.13537773]

This thread has turned into Goop level vintage Lego collectors.

Stop fucking humping coffee beans or you'll look like a weirdo. Anti-vaxx level voodoo bullshit.

[Anonymous No.13537776]

>>13537740
I have one. It's not bad desu

[Anonymous No.13537836]

>>13537773
>not humping your coffee

[Anonymous No.13538107]

Spray Dried Instant Type II only

[Anonymous No.13539132]

>>13537767
where did I say it wasn't moron

[Anonymous No.13539173]

>>13537740
It looks like a less convenient v60, although I haven't tried it so maybe there's a special magic thing about it you need to experience. But probably not, and it's known to break all the time.

[Anonymous No.13539686]

>>13537670
Ireland, it's a lovely place and a shit hole at the same time.
>morning calibrations
>18g
>85ml
>47g shot
It's butter smooth lads

[Anonymous No.13539803]

>>13537740
It’s pretty. I’d never get or use one though. I think the smooth glass cone at the top is a much worse design than the ribs on literally any other pour over ever.

If chemex did a crossover episode with Hario, and made the top cone essentially be a v60 of appropriate size, THAT would be cool. I might get one of those.

[Anonymous No.13539826]

>>13539803
Plus I'd imagine that the inside of the smaller sizes are a pain to clean out properly

[Anonymous No.13539837]

luv me chicory
luv me french press
luv me cafe au lait

Simple 'as

[Anonymous No.13540190]

Anyone use one of these things regularly? It looks like it would be crazy handy for travel but I wonder if the parts are good enough to make a consistently good cup of coffee.

[Anonymous No.13540228]

>>13506078
based moka pots. The staple of any Italian home

[Anonymous No.13540230]

>>13506020
I’m new to /ck/ but I’m a big beanoid (that’s what I call coffee connoisseurs)

Is there a paste bin or wiki for coffee? I’ve got run of the mill type coffee stuff but I would like the opinions of people who have put more hours into brewing, grinding, tasting percolating them beans

Any info on coffee does and donts are what I’m looking for also what kind of equipment/brands I should get if I want to go from entry level to intermediate to advanced in coffee

[Anonymous No.13540261]

>>13516801
Take one if they don't want it or offer to buy it.

[Anonymous No.13540386]

>>13540230
We talked about it for a few posts this thread, then gave up like usual.

[Anonymous No.13540399]

>>13540228
>Italian

The worst whites.

[Anonymous No.13541163]

Stopping by my favorite coffee shop this week to restock. Getting a nice variety from Sump coffee, if you are anywhere near St. Louis or Nashville I highly recommend it. Until then I have a teeny bit from Sump, and a bunch of Cafe Du Monde and Clipper coffee(local St. Louis brand)

[Anonymous No.13542147]

Guys, since everybody is talking about moccamaster and these things cost a lot new, does it make sens to buy them old? I have spotted a few around my area for 50$, is it a good value?

[Anonymous No.13542185]

>>13542147
Absolutely. Post pics.

[Anonymous No.13542194]

>>13542185
There is only this one

[Anonymous No.13542349]

Coffee makes me sleepy. I'm so tired, bros.

[Anonymous No.13542764]

>>13542194
BUY IT IMMEDIATELY

[Anonymous No.13542799]

This is my setup and the hopper is full of Lavazza Oro, you coffee snob dinks.

[Anonymous No.13542806]

>>13542799
>Lavazza Oro
lol

[Anonymous No.13542811]

Is a french press a good way to make coffee ?

[Anonymous No.13542815]

>>13542799
As long as you're happy, why would you give a shit what we think?
Drink your coffee and be happy.

That's the whole point.

[Anonymous No.13542821]

>>13542806
Tastes fucking amazing, sorry bro. Smooth as fuck.

[Anonymous No.13542823]

>>13542799
>drinking shit coffee to own the coffee snobs
yeah you sure showed us buddy

[Anonymous No.13542824]

>>13542811

No, get a drip through stainless one cup. It's less bitter.

[Anonymous No.13542827]

>>13542821
Thank you for proving that you know nothing about coffee by using only "smooth" to describe a shot lmfao

[Anonymous No.13542832]

>>13542823
I don't give a living ass fuck about you idiots. But you always bitch about it like little cunts. So I preempt you dull pricks by mentioning it. You go off and get Jorge to roast your beans just how you like. I'll drink something that tastes amazing. You're like wine sommeliers that don't know their asshole from their appetite.

[Anonymous No.13542835]

>>13542827
Dude, talk to me about single malt, I'll give a shit, coffee, I don't pretend with you fucking Seattle dullards. It's nutty, with chestnut and heather, with a hint of vagina.. You fucking people disgust me.

[Anonymous No.13542837]

>>13542799
open a lot of cans, do ya?

[Anonymous No.13542848]

>>13542837
Make a lot of bread too, honey. And I might just use the toaster oven and that micro-fancy-wave.

The fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.13542858]

>>13542811
If you 1. like immersion brews and 2. drink more than 200ml at a time, yes.
If you like immersion but only drink small cups, get an aeropress since it's easier to clean and faster.
Otherwise get a v60. Actually just get a v60 anyway. And get a grinder. I recommend a Timemore Slim for $80 or a Kinu for $200-$344.

[Anonymous No.13542867]

>>13542835
Dude, talk to me about coffee, I'll give a shit, single malt, I don't pretend with you fucking Seattle dullards. It's nutty, with chestnut and heather, with a hint of vagina.. You fucking people disgust me.

[Anonymous No.13542874]

>>13542867
Dude, talk to me about coffee, I'll give a shit, single malt, I don't pretend with you fucking Seattle dullards. It's nutty, with chestnut and heather, with a hint of vagina.. You fucking people disgust me.

[Anonymous No.13542887]

>>13542832
>>13542835
Yeah bro keep drinking mass produced trash you're totally owning us we're all seething because you're wasting your money bro

[Anonymous No.13542987]

>>13542349
Coffee puts me to sleep if I drink it after 8pm.
If I overcome the drowsiness and refuse to sleep, I'll be unable to sleep all night.
Maybe it being a hot drink has something to do with it.

[Anonymous No.13543208]

Just moved to Seattle. What are the best shops to visit, and where should I shop for espresso to take home?

[Anonymous No.13543851]

For a coffee thread there is very little talk about actual coffee here.

What origin beans are your favorite?

[Anonymous No.13544007]

>>13506078
based

[Anonymous No.13544096]

With the Chinese having made some way too good grinders for their price now, how much longer until they make equal value espresso machines? I found one already but it has only one order yet. Looks damn cool though

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000051819625.html

[Anonymous No.13544161]

>>13542764
Will do. How easy is it to make coffee for one person?

[Anonymous No.13544223]

>>13506020
I just recently started drinking coffee over the past year. I've found that I prefer using 1.5x the amount of coffee per cup as recommended. Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.13544236]

>>13544223
What amout and recommended by who? There's wildly different recipes out there. There's also a good chance you're grinding/brewing wrong, so you're compensating for underextraction by increasing the bean quantity.

[Anonymous No.13544247]

>>13544236
Amount/recommendation by the manufacturer of whatever coffee im using. I use a french press, pour water after kettle has been off of stove for 10 seconds just over grounds and let steep 15 seconds, then I add in the remaining about of water and let steep for 4 minutes.

[Anonymous No.13544266]

>>13544247
I don't use french press but James Hoffmann is very reliable, try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

[Anonymous No.13544275]

>>13544266
thx fren

[Anonymous No.13544553]

why does half n half taste so much better in coffee than 1% milk bros?...an isocaloric amount I mean

[Anonymous No.13544563]

>>13544553
Because it has about ten times more fat.

[Anonymous No.13544583]

then how come half n half is also better than heavy cream?? I tried that as well

[Anonymous No.13544590]

>>13544583
Because it masks the coffee less.

[Anonymous No.13544666]

I fucked up using a cezve again

[Anonymous No.13544692]

>>13507566
there is literally nothing wrong with cowboy coffee

[Anonymous No.13544711]

Does espresso need to come out of a $1000 machine to taste better than pour-over or will no amount of investment fix preferences?

[Anonymous No.13544739]

>>13544711
The machine doesn't matter much, it's the grinder that's important. But a good grinder is as important to pour over. So yes, it's preferences, they do different things. Filter tends to do best with fruitier, lighter roasted beans and espresso tends to be better for milk drinks and darker roasts (though light roast espresso is definitely a thing as well).

[Anonymous No.13545186]

>>13544711
Like the other anon said, grinder is most important, as well as having your grinder dialed in for your machine. You can pull an amazing shot with a $200 manual lever or a $500 basic bitch machine, it just takes patience and skill.

[Anonymous No.13545195]

>>13543851
Ethiopian. I'm just a sucker for fruit bombs.
>>13544096
I don't know. I wouldn't get an unbranded generic one though.
>>13544711
Like >>13544739 said, as long as it's an actual espresso machine, the machine itself is less important than your grinder. A manual machine like the flair or robot will make great real espresso for ~$200-$360 if you've got a great grinder to go with it. Pair one of those with a Kinu M57 Phoenix for $200 and you've got an espresso set up that would only need "upgrading" if you wanted to electrify it.

But it's a matter of taste. I don't have any coffee friends whose espresso I can try, and every coffee shop I've gone to makes battery acid shots, except for the little coffee bar in a local diner. They make something pleasant to drink. Oh, and once upon a time, a coffee shop pulled a shot that tasted like bananas. So I'm not sure if I mostly dislike espresso or if I've only had bad espresso, and I don't really know if I want to invest the time and money making it myself just to find out.

I'm not really sure what good, well made espresso is supposed to taste like. I know what good filter coffee tastes like, and I can't get enough.

Well that turned into a rant and didn't do a whole lot to answer your question lol.

[Anonymous No.13545244]

>>13545195
Where are you from? You should find good espresso anywhere you can find good filter coffee - small third wave specialty shops.

[Anonymous No.13545288]

>>13545244
Central Texas. I’ve only become interested in espresso recently, so I’ve only tried espresso from random drive through coffee stands, local coffee in Austin, a roaster/cafe somewhat close by who do a bad job of roasting, and a roaster/cafe called what’s brewing in San Antonio. Also said nearby diner.

The first Local coffee I tried made the nice banana espresso. The next Local I had high hopes for since they weighed and timed the shot output, but it was disappointingly sour.

It seems that almost nobody orders a straight espresso.

[Anonymous No.13545360]

>>13545288
But do you get great filter coffee from those places?

[Anonymous No.13545374]

>>13545360
I'd say it's mostly good, and great every once in a while. I make better pour overs at home.

[Anonymous No.13545676]

>>13544711
Flair with pressure gauge + a kinu m47. You can save a few bucks by trying to get a scratch and dent flair, but you'll want the pressure gauge.

[Anonymous No.13546025]

>>13506020
Someone gave me some supposedly nice and fancy coffee, it's the most acidic thing I've ever tasted. Is this intentional? Do people enjoy coffee like this? To clarify, I like very light roasts, I've had a shitload of different coffee, and I don't have a sensitive palate. I'd drink sanka if that's all there was, I just like coffee.

This, however, is like biting into a lemon. How is this possible?

[Anonymous No.13546145]

For me, its cafe Caribe!

[Anonymous No.13546161]

>>13546025
what exactly is the coffee you were given?

[Anonymous No.13546201]

>>13546145
I wish many of these brick coffees weren't just burnt to hell.