Do you enjoy vegan products?

[Anonymous No.13414257]

[Anonymous No.13414262]

>>13414257
this can't be real...

[Anonymous No.13414274]

18000000 times what though?

[Anonymous No.13414276]

>>13414262
DOCTOR said it. I'm gonna believe him.

[Anonymous No.13414286]

>>13414276
>someone contradicts my cult
no no no no no no no no no

[Anonymous No.13414340]

>conveniently omitting bovine estrogens, growth factors and antibiotics, bc muh doctors [spoiler]appeal to authority [spoiler] are not paid for that, but somehow paid to test the one vegan option in the entire menu
>equating phytoestrogens with actual mammalian sex hormones
yikes

[Anonymous No.13414345]

>>13414340
you can order a test yourself, probably.

send samples to lab and ask them to test for X.

presto

[Anonymous No.13414347]

>>13414257
OH BOY, A REPOST. MY FAVOURITE. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SAME 50 REPLIES AS LAST TIME.

[Anonymous No.13414351]

>>13414257
yeah, and some doctors (retired chiropractors) say that starch is bad and that dairy is healthy so who gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.13414385]

>>13414286
>Carnist cannot read.
Literally not even shocked.

[Anonymous No.13414392]

>>13414257
>Trusting doctors.
>The same people bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies.
>The same companies that actually make estrogen pills.
>The same companies that literally sell poison in the form of vaccines.
>"I can trust these people, they have special papers on the walls!"

[Anonymous No.13414394]

>>13414385
>think it's offensive to call people 'carnist'
Oh I am laffing

[Anonymous No.13414414]

I already eat plant-based meat, in the form of cows that eat plants. Vegans eat plants that were raised in fertilizer, and fed bone meal and blood meal. Vegans eat plants that are fed animals, I eat animals that are fed plants.

Eventually, I will eat vegans.

[Anonymous No.13414420]

>>13414392
All doctors aren't one person retard
>>13414414
Based

[Anonymous No.13414425]

>>13414257

Any degenerate dumb enough to eat BK deserves everything bad that ever happens to them.

[Anonymous No.13414428]

>>13414345
Note that I don't exclude the possibility for this product to be shit, as I myself don't eat over-processed foods for many reason.
It's the total ignoring of the modern omnivorous (especially the fast-food) lifestyle and the harm it causes whilst microfocusing on a plant burger that makes my blood boil.

[Anonymous No.13414446]

Eat meat! Not eating meat makes you a pussy! You frail sense of ma liness will keep funding factory farming that drives us closer and closer to extinction

[Anonymous No.13414450]

Eat meat! Not eating meat makes you a pussy! Your frail sense of manliness will keep funding factory farming that drives us closer and closer to extinction

[Anonymous No.13414462]

>>13414257
>i'll support to my dying breath the right of amerilard megacorporate dairy farmers to fill their cattle with carcinogenic rBGH hormones
>but I'll scream bloody murder when people eat harmless phytoestrogens because it's muh scary commie, socialist, globalist *gasp* p-plants

[Anonymous No.13414473]

>>13414462
>harmless phytoestrogens
enjoy developing breasts.

[Anonymous No.13414485]

>>13414450

Endless cycles of harvesting massive fields of monocropped plants that strip the ground of minerals & nutrients, while reducing bioderversity, that also pollute our water supply with herbicides/pesticides is a million times worse for the environment than factory farming. Not to mention shipping seasonal fruits and vegetables in refrigerated gas guzzling super tankers all around the world all year long since some plants only grow in certain climates.

[Anonymous No.13414498]

>>13414485
Every crop strips ground of minerals and nutrients.

Either you shit where you eat or you're slowly depleting the soil.

[Anonymous No.13414499]

>>13414498
>Every crop strips ground of minerals and nutrients.
Uhh

[Anonymous No.13414507]

>>13414462
>harmless phytoestrogens

Oh no no no no!!!!!!! HA HAHHA HA HA

[Anonymous No.13414509]

>>13414473
they don't do anything though

[Anonymous No.13414511]

>>13414507
The block estrogen you moron, they're an issue for women of a certain age.

[Anonymous No.13414514]

>>13414507
Imagine bragging about being a fucking neutered faggot. Jfc, the west needs to hurry up and collapse already, I cant handle this shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.13414515]

>>13414498

I only eat pasture raised grass fed & finished beef that literally shits and pisses ferterlizer while putting carbon in the ground.

[Anonymous No.13414516]

>>13414514
imagine being so insecure that this bothers you

[Anonymous No.13414519]

>>13414516
Kys

[Anonymous No.13414525]

>>13414485
>cows eat air

[Anonymous No.13414528]

>>13414516
> t. Castrated bugman.

[Anonymous No.13414530]

>>13414519
>>13414528
How's the inferiority complex working out, stormtards?

[Anonymous No.13414543]

>>13414515
They shit and piss the nutrients which the plants they ate took from the soil. Their flesh stores a lot of those nutrients as well though, which are not returned to the soil.

YOU have to shit where you eat to close the cycle, not the livestock.

[Anonymous No.13414562]

>>13414543
Its easier to reintroduce the missing minerals to field than carbon. Grassland with an appropriate amount of grassing animals does a great job at this.

[Anonymous No.13414566]

>>13414511
They bind to estrogen receptors and activate them the only difference is that the activation is not as strong as regular estrogen. No male has enough human origin estrogen in their bodies to continually bind to all of the much more numerous estrogen receptors. Also exessive xenoestroges lowers testosterone for the same reason injecting estrogen does: estrogen and testosterone are similar enough in structure that the hpt axis will down regulate production if either T or E are high enough.

[Anonymous No.13414582]

>>13414562
Because animals have nuclear fusion plants in their stomach which generates phosphorus and other elements from thin air?

[Anonymous No.13415687]

As a vegan, i don't even eat that shit. But you know who do, retards thinking it is healthy, which compared to the regular garbage beef patty, prop is.

[Anonymous No.13415699]

>>13414257
Scrolls thread for link .. piss poor propaganda.

[Anonymous No.13415758]

>>13414530
seethe more castrated cuckboi

[Anonymous No.13415759]

>>13414582
agrochemicals kill all the soil life (earthworms, microbes)

[Anonymous No.13416384]

[Anonymous No.13416507]

>>13414276
He's a vet.

[Anonymous No.13416808]

>>13414485
Most of the crops goes to feed the livestock.
9/10 of the crops' energy get lost in transmission.
Those crops could feed the world, but you prefer growing your fifth chin and dying at the of 40 instead.

[Anonymous No.13416862]

>tfw vegans have higher T levels on average
inb4 seething mental gymnast omnis

[Anonymous No.13416904]

>>13414257
Anyone that is eating an impossible burger is already of testosterone blockers anyways or might as well start.

[Anonymous No.13416908]

>>13416808
>Abloo bloo the starving chilluns in Africa!
You mean the same starving nations that kick out actual farmers and wonder how they don't have food now?

[Anonymous No.13417080]

>>13416908
>implying there is shortage of local hungry and homeless before we even mention the oogas
you should try getting out of your gated neighbourhood sometime

[Anonymous No.13417083]

Post here
>>13416823

[Anonymous No.13417084]

>>13417080
Don't worry about the homeless in the US.
I hear california is going to spend a few billion and give them a campground with hotel amenities.

[Anonymous No.13417089]

>>13414473
>being a chestlet
>2019
I bet you haven't even induced lactation via Impossible Whoppers yet, faggot

[Anonymous No.13417093]

>>13417084
personal sincere help moralizes the hobos more than the gibs from the government that they just take for granted tho

[Anonymous No.13417140]

Impossible Burger is almost 1to1 the same as Dog food and is full of Estrogen

[Anonymous No.13417281]

>>13416862
one can't produce testosterone without animal products.

[Anonymous No.13417377]

>>13414414
Based, and secondhand vegetarianpilled.

[Anonymous No.13417380]

>>13415759
>agrochemicals kill all the soil life (earthworms, microbes)
No, they don't. The soil would become compacted and unable to grow plants. They are reduced, but the soil isn't lifeless.

Western farmers are generally intelligent and adaptable. No/low till, crop rotation, micro-nutrient fertilization, they do whatever it takes to optimize profits. Killing the soil will not optimize profits. As long as the (fossil) fertilizer and water lasts western farmers will keep their soil alive.

Also the grasslands they use to graze cows ... not a lot of free range with infinite nutrient magic in Europe, we have to be a little more scientific.

[Anonymous No.13417386]

>>13414528
I would hate my wife if I got a vasectomy and she rubbed my nose in it like this.

[Anonymous No.13417407]

>>13414530
>everything I don’t like is racist
>even when the teasing has nothing to do with race

Goddamn. No wonder people make fun of vegans.
Eat a steak, anon, it’ll help you think a lot more clearly.

[Anonymous No.13417408]

>>13414257
What's the estrogen levels in drinking alcohol for most meals?

[Anonymous No.13417427]

>>13417093
>unironically believing professional drifting criminals will have a sudden change of heart because you give them a plate of organic rice

[Anonymous No.13417432]

>>13416808
>Those crops could feed the world, but you prefer growing your fifth chin and dying at the of 40 eating meat.

40 years is 39 more than true vegans get. (A true vegan is a forced vegan, from birth)

[Anonymous No.13417440]

>>13417380
>Also the grasslands they use to graze cows ... not a lot of free range with infinite nutrient magic in Europe, we have to be a little more scientific.

You have Ireland and England, and you have (underutilized) Ukraine. Furthermore if retarded huwhite nation's helped each other instead of feeding fucking Africa, between the US, and Australia and New Sealand we could easily satisfy all of Europe's needs for grass fed beef and lamb.

[Anonymous No.13417451]

>>13417440
Ireland and England aren't in the same league as the US and Australia. Cattle density is much higher on pasture than rangeland. They don't have the luxury of waiting a century for infinite nutrient magic to hit a wall, they have to fertilize or perish right now.

Unless your rangeland is on/near a floodplain (where eroded rocks provide high nutrient inflows) you'll have to fertilize sooner or later. Grazing and human consumption create nutrient outflows natural processes will not equilibrate before the soil is as dead as you pretend farmland is. Savory is a hack.

[Anonymous No.13417545]

>>13417281
>this is your brain on broscience

[Anonymous No.13417559]

>>13417432
>you can't possibly malnourish a child on an omnivorous diet
what is the multibillionaire supplement industry

[Anonymous No.13417561]

>>13417427
nice cope for a crab unwilling to part with half a penny

[Anonymous No.13417614]

>>13417451
My point was that England and Ireland do provide beef and lamb, and the US and Australia can pick up the slack and feed Europe. Furthermore having cattle on the land is the fertilizer, as long as you avoid overgrazing.

New methods have sheep and chicken following the cows around increasing productivity on the same land.

Beef production- Zero pesticides use natural fertilizers and the cows coexist with smaller critters (rabbits mice etc)

Vegetable farms-- forest is plowed over, massive perpetual chemical pesticides use and all animals large and small are killed fucking dead just as a part of the operation on gigantic monocrop farms.

[Anonymous No.13417618]

>>13417559
>Wat is the multibillionaire supplement industry

?? I guess that industry is something that vegans and other unhealthy people pay money to every day of their lives??

[Anonymous No.13417626]

>>13417545
prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.13417667]

you mean like lettuce?
yeah lettuce is pretty good

[Anonymous No.13417669]

>>13414257
I was a lifelong liberal Democrat, but shit like this is why I had to #walkaway.

[Anonymous No.13417679]

>>13414257
No. I also don't get what's so difficult about eating vegan. Just cook normal meals but leave out the meat. Still tasty.
All this crap food is just marketing bullshit.

[Anonymous No.13417682]

>>13414286
Are you retarded or just babbys first troll?

[Anonymous No.13417687]

>>13417618
In a room full of vegans and a carnist, how do you identify the carnist?
That's right, by his B12 deficiency.

Btw, the B12 in your meat comes from supplements. It's not natural at all.

[Anonymous No.13417706]

>>13414257
These are hilarious. It is almost to the point where I felt like I was reading satire. Here is the of source national file is referencing, I'm linking it because the nf source is basically a poorly worded regurgitation of the same article. Note: the source is a blog from Tri State LIVESTOCK news, so already biased source. The "Dr" lists his credentials as dvm, doctor of vetenary medicine. Also note, no sources for any claims anywhere. There is no analysis or study which actually looked at the difference between a Whopper and impossible.

https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

[Anonymous No.13417708]

>>13414499
He’s right. You can do crop rotation and cover cropping to prevent the damage and keep the soil nutritious, but industrial farms aim to grow the same crop 24/7/365. That’ll fuck the land.

[Anonymous No.13417711]

>>13417614
Yes its a negligible fertilizer while they degrade the soil and uproot the grass
>Beef production- Zero pesticides use natural fertilizers and the cows coexist with smaller critters (rabbits mice etc)
Complete and utter lie. Of course pesticides are used you lying fucking freak, does coexistence with animals include their deaths from displacing them from their habitats to protect the grazing land? When it gets foraged and tilled? Treated with pesticides? For the alfalfa that is flown in for the livestock feed?

[Anonymous No.13417714]

>>13417614
read
>>13416808
+ there is not just enough grassland to meet the everincreasing demand for meat and dairy

[Anonymous No.13417720]

>A non-meat product enjoyed by women and gays has estrogen in it

Never would've guessed, what a total shock. Oh man, I am in awe of this information.

[Anonymous No.13417725]

I eat vegan products every once in a while. Decent amount of it tastes pretty good.

[Anonymous No.13417744]

>>13414257
And soda has 6 gorillion times more sugar than water, yet you fatasses still chug it down like it's nothing.

[Anonymous No.13417746]

>>13417618
Vegans don't make even a percent of the total population, you can't earn such gigantic profits out of this tiny demographic.
So you can be health unconscious on any diet, especially the omnivorous one.

[Anonymous No.13417956]

>>13417714
>there is not just enough grassland to meet the everincreasing demand for meat and dairy

Let me translate from veganspeak lies--

"Not enough to feed China, and all of Africa*
*Africa gets it for free.

So Australia and the US government have decided to completely destroy their own forests, to feed niggers, for free. Obviously my fault right?? And I have to go vegan?

[Anonymous No.13417962]

>>13417687
>Btw, the B12 in your meat comes from supplements. It's not natural at all.

I eat game meat only, hunted from deer in the wild. Are you supplementing them too?

>Some sneeky ass vegan, supplements all the deer in the forest.

[Anonymous No.13417975]

>>13417711
>does coexistence with animals include their deaths from displacing them from their habitats to protect the cattle grazing land?

So cattle ranches on thousands and thousands of r acres they go around killing the mice? Rabbits? Foxes? Turtles not to mention insects????

Oh wait my bad that's where your vegan dollar goes, on the industrial scale animal Holocaust factories called vegetables farms, my mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stfuoAgn-DQ

[Anonymous No.13417993]

>>13414450
>anon typed smugly on her planned obsolescence plastics and conflict minerals electronic device made from components shipped all over the world

[Anonymous No.13418098]

>>13417962
Yes.

[Anonymous No.13418103]

>>13417956
Yes. So unless you plan on invading those countries soon and culling all the subhumans, what is your plan? Kill us all out spite?

[Anonymous No.13419322]

>>13416808
>prefer dieing at 40.
You got me there boyo. Not gonna be meat that does it to me though. It's gonna be the semi crippling alcohol addiction that gets me. Completely normal to an outside observer, never late to work, never fuck things up or get arrested so nobody worries about me, but I piss the bed drunk after 30 beers every night.

[Anonymous No.13419524]

>>13419322
Who washes the sheets and how often?

[Anonymous No.13419613]

>>13419524
I do and every day it happens. Doesn't actually happen every single day, probably 3 times a week or so.

[Anonymous No.13419619]

>>13419524
>>13419613
You didn't really think anyone else lives with me did you? Although I do have an ex that tried. Miss her sometimes. Still talk sometimes

[Anonymous No.13419624]

>>13419619
>Miss her sometimes.
Man, you get so drunk you can't even piss on someone?

[Anonymous No.13419646]

>>13419624
Actually that's one of the reasons I miss her. That's true maybe. Never pissed it while she was there. She knew I did it, but it never happened when she was spending the night. 5 years gone

[Anonymous No.13419851]

>>13419613
I don't piss the bed but occasionally I come out of a stupor where I'm pissing on the floor. Happened on Christmas eve. Not a happy feeling.

[Anonymous No.13419882]

>>13414274
>if meat has .000001 mg of est per beef patty
>fake meat has 18 mg of est per patty
>birth control is only 20mg
the math is not good, bitch tits.

[Anonymous No.13419896]

>>13419851
I've got a brother that does that. Yall work too hard, feels just as bad. Stay in bed and sleep till it finally gets cold

[Anonymous No.13419905]

>>13416808
That is completely untrue.

85% of crops given to cattle are parts of the harvested crop humans can not eat(leaves, roots, cobs, stems, stalks,vines, ect.), crops that fail to reach the market quality needed for human consumption or are byproducts from the plant being processed into another form. Chickens and pigs or fed s*y which humans should not be eating anyway.

Stop parroting vegan lies.

[Anonymous No.13419940]

>>13419905
They get fed corn and other grains. Including soy as well, and alfalfa, you're just making shit up on the spot to be contrarian to the opposing point. And even if what you said were true (its not) the land grown for crops can be appropriated for crops for human consumption you dumb shitbrain

[Anonymous No.13420126]

These are hilarious. It is almost to the point where I felt like I was reading satire. Here is the of source national file is referencing, I'm linking it because the nf source is basically a poorly worded regurgitation of the same article. Note: the source is a blog from Tri State LIVESTOCK news, so already biased source. The "Dr" lists his credentials as dvm, doctor of vetenary medicine. Also note, no sources for any claims anywhere. There is no analysis or study which actually looked at the difference between a Whopper and impossible.

https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

[Anonymous No.13420272]

>>13419940
>It can be grown for humans!
But what about the poor animals you bastard?

[Anonymous No.13422116]

>>13419905
>the parts of the harvested crop humans can not eat
Of course. Why would you sell human quality grain to animals when you don't have to, and can instead make other products (soy oil, flour, lecithine, etc. and even use it in biofuel) and then sell the rest to animal ag as feed? Sure, you could argue that cows get our leftovers, but you could also argue we get the cow's leftovers - it's semantics. But there's a reason that soy is such a popular crop and soy-derived crap is in so much of our food, and the reason isn't that soy is just so awesome and delicious and healthy.

>>13420272
You mean the ones we breed in billions so we can torture them, kill them and eat them? Well, I was thinking, and I know it's crazy - but how about we NOT do that?

[Anonymous No.13422160]

>>13414414

[Anonymous No.13423747]

>>13414414
>I'm gonna hunt and kill vegans!
ZOMG!! that's just too edgy 4 me anon, wow!

[Anonymous No.13423763]

>White Liberals: OMG, killing a cow for food is morally evil! You people that eat meat are Hitler!!!
>Alslo White Liberals: I'm only 8 months pregnant, I can abort my baby if I want to!!! You can't tell me what to do, I do what I want!!

wtf is wrong with white people?

[Anonymous No.13423766]

>>13423763
Not all white people are irrational like that. Just liberals.

[Anonymous No.13423893]

>>13423763
To be fair, white people environmentNazis are now advocating "getting rid of" people "for the sake of the planet" so it's consistent, at least.

[Anonymous No.13423968]

>>13416862

[Anonymous No.13423977]

>>13423763
liberalism is a mental illness.

[Anonymous No.13424008]

>>13417679
This. It’s entirely within the realm of possibility to make savoury, plant-based dishes that will satisfy you the same way that meat does (or at least similarly). My issue with vegan foods are those that are clearly just fake bullshit pseudofoods designed as meat knockoffs. Why flaunt being plant-based and vegan if you’re going to try to taste like beef? Makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.13424034]

>>13424008
it's mostly for people flirting with the idea of veggie/low meat diets

i've been vegan for over a decade and if i'm out with a mate i don't mind trying that sort of thing but at home red kidney beans are king

[Anonymous No.13424040]

>>13417080
LMAO ZIMBABWE LITERALLY DID THAT, RETARD

[Anonymous No.13424042]

>>13424008
Have you ever tried to get 50g protein out of fuckin' beans? Vegans need processed food to get adequate nutrition, so it might as well be appetising.

[Anonymous No.13424043]

>>13423763
>not killing babies
pussy