/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13412987]

Appoligize to me right now. I told you guys there was a push for this beyond shit everywhere for a reason, but no I was just told to take my meds.

[Anonymous No.13412988]

>>13412987
that's too good to be true.

[Anonymous No.13412990]

>>13412987
Nice try at scaremongering, carnist.

[Anonymous No.13412992]

>>13412987
Notice how it's only Burger King being targeted and not Impossible Meats themselves.
This "Tabloid" piece of shit is clearly just an attack.

[Anonymous No.13412993]

>>13412990
Im not just informing people that I was right about the gubmint testing shit on the masses.

[Anonymous No.13412996]

I don't give a fuck to be honest

[Anonymous No.13412997]

>>13412992
Naw more likely that the words Burger King would draw more clicks.

[Anonymous No.13413000]

Oh no.
All that estrogen is going to really mess with the limp wristed little faggots that eat that shit.

[Anonymous No.13413003]

Every fucking vegan thread makes me want to eat more meat, I'm going to start contaminating the recycle bin and keep my fuel hungry tank of a car.

[Anonymous No.13413005]

>>13413003
But this is clearly and anti-vegan thread, so eat that carrot.

[Anonymous No.13413010]

>>13413005
Shove the carrot up your ass,just the mention of that vegan shit brings those subhuman cultists out.

[Anonymous No.13413017]

>>13412987
>IMPOSSIBRU BURG MAKE BOY GROW MOOB
>the illustrious Baxter Dmitry, reporting for duty

[Anonymous No.13413022]

>Doctor is from "Tri-State Livestock News"
>this story is only being peddled by shitty right wing tabloids

[Anonymous No.13413029]

>>13412987
>I told you guys there was a push for this beyond shit everywhere for a reason
Meds are till due.

[Anonymous No.13413033]

Imagine being one of those "red pill" twats from /pol/ who doesn't know that phyto estrogens from plants are totally different than animal estrogen.
Imagine calling everyone else NPCs while you parrot the same dumb wrong conspiracy theory all your other little nazi online friends fell for.

[Anonymous No.13413053]

>>13413033
They're not that different you goddamned retard. Phytoestrogen and estrogen have the same effect on the body except phytos are more temporary thus reversible if avoided further consumption, whereas estrogen is more permanent. So if you're only eating faggy-pattys, your body is going to react just the same as if it were regular estrogen

[Anonymous No.13413089]

1 pound of impossible meat daily is equivalent to HRT

the end game is people transgendering themselves by buying this stuff and not even needing to get hormones from a doctor anymore

[Anonymous No.13413092]

>>13413089
If I wanted to kill myself I would just start drinking again.

[Anonymous No.13413093]

>>13412987
Cancelled out by the testosterone in the meat juices they're cooked in

[Anonymous No.13413104]

>>13412987
Guess I'l just have to man up and continue eating pic related.

[Anonymous No.13413106]

>>13412987
Sounds like you absolutely should have taken your meds.

[Anonymous No.13413115]

>>13412987
I definitely would’ve agreed to you but I think I saw your threads and assumed it was a shitpost because anyone who isn’t a complete retard would be able to take notice of the “advertisements” (read: propaganda) being pushed for these dumb piles of shit

Just gonna say it OP, but based if true, and not every theory you have will be correct but at least you aren’t blind

[Anonymous No.13413116]

>>13413104
Based and mcpilled

[Anonymous No.13413122]

>>13413115
Thanks anon. I try to be as logical as I can and it was the massive shilling that had me thinking something was up. This shit just appeared out of nowhere and then every company ever adopted it within a week or two. Pluss the massive shilling online.

[Anonymous No.13413152]

>>13412987
>implying this isn't a selling point for anyone who would consider buying the faggotburger in the first place

[Anonymous No.13413154]

>>13412987
>traps get a cheap form of estrogen
um your a bigot if you protest this

[Anonymous No.13413169]

>>13413154
Not the point. Today its estrogen tomorrow its agent orange

[Anonymous No.13413181]

>>13413169
>people who go to burger king will die
and nothing of value was lost
taco bell and chipotle are the only acceptable fast food establishments

[Anonymous No.13413189]

>>13413181
>implying they can only do it to burger king

[Anonymous No.13413205]

>>13413189
>implying any other fast food establishment is soy enough to make an estrogenburger

[Anonymous No.13413206]

>it's a bold typeface header, it must be true

[Anonymous No.13413210]

>>13412987
44mg of estrogen is an absurd amount, my doc prescribes me 6mg daily (trans femanon here, btw) and that's on the high end. There's no way there's actually that much estrogen, or if there is then it's definitely not all bio-available.

[Anonymous No.13413217]

>>13413210
>cut whopper into 4 pieces
>11mg each
>food for 2 days and 50% cheaper then going to the doctor

[Anonymous No.13413219]

>>13413122
Anon, listen to me bro, I know it’s gonna be hard but please try. This entire world is incredibly fucked, we are all so deep in the box that the conception of said box is beyond our abilities. We have all, and I mean “we” as humans and “all” as literally everyone except uncontacted tribes (and maybe even them), been exposed to so much propaganda since birth that we don’t even know what reality “is”.
Advertisements are propaganda. Television is propaganda. YouTube is propaganda. News is propaganda. Half of the opinions and ideas of the people you know are propaganda, and probably even more than that.
This specific type of propaganda may be what opened your eyes, but I swear on my life, my God, and my family that EVERYTHING about your conceptions of reality is propagandized.

If you will, what is the country you were educated in? I assume the US? I will explain further if you answer

[Anonymous No.13413224]

>>13413205
https://www.cnet.com/news/where-to-buy-the-impossible-burger-2-0-fast-food-and-chain-restaurants/

[Anonymous No.13413230]

>>13413122
My guess is that they were and still are trying to make money from sales.

[Anonymous No.13413233]

>>13413219
not him but the propaganda has gotten so bad that even on shitty sites like 4chan it is well known that companies shill here non stop
even though shit like porn or gore is posted constantly

how bad is it on sites that are "clean"?
these very opinions themselves are indeed propaganda

it's all so confusing and tiring

[Anonymous No.13413235]

>>13413219
Oh I know that all too well anon. I make up my mind logically and of my own accord. I appriciate you looking out though.

[Anonymous No.13413236]

>>13412987
>the carnism industry so frightened of competition from plant based burgers they have to wage a propaganda campaign of lies
Vegans must be doing something right.

[Anonymous No.13413243]

>>13413233
If the propaganda you see on 4channel.org is that obvious, imagine what must be going on that isn’t so obvious
>>13413235
I know lots of people on this site like to think they’re “aware” but what about this
>be you
>be 6 years old in first grade
>February, black history month
>they teach you about white on black oppression
>fast forward
>be 12
>sixth grade
>you’ve literally only learned two operations (multiplication and division) since first grade
>black history month
>once again taught about white on black oppression
>fast forward
>9th grade
>literally same shit different day
Why were 9 years of your life wasted on this?

[Anonymous No.13413254]

>>13413236
By that you mean killing their own children?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/22/baby-kept-vegan-diet-died-his-parents-have-been-charged-with-manslaughter/

[Anonymous No.13413262]

>>13413243
I know and saw through the bullshit early. Had a teacher that pushed jesus on us all in 3rd fucking grade. My parents let me make up my own mind on those things and thought it was weird another adult was talking about it like it was the truth. Ive questioned everything since.

[Anonymous No.13413291]

>>13413262
I’m glad, m8. If you can truly understand the corruption and propaganda in our educational system, then and only then (similar to if and only if) will you be able to see everything else that follows. Please spread your knowledge of said corruption to as many as possible, it’s astounding how few Americans understand the corruption of our “educational” system

[Anonymous No.13413306]

>>13412987
>your news wire
Stop reading garbage.

[Anonymous No.13413314]

>>13413306
OK where do we find the truth on veganism the starvation cult?

[Anonymous No.13413325]

>>13413291
I try as much as I can, but its amazing how many people would rather live in ignorance.

[Anonymous No.13413333]

>>13413325
It’s not amazing, it’s disgusting, anon. The corruption of English discourse is one of their ways.
Also, CAPTCHA is definitely part of an AI learning system you should deceive as often as possible, but my beliefs in this idea makes it suspicious as well.

[Anonymous No.13413419]

>>13413053
It's fun how the complete lack of studies proving your claim and the lack of any consensus among scientists doesn't stop you running your dumb mouth. Cunt.

[Anonymous No.13413436]

>>13413053
FAGGY PATTIES
>Im stealing this

[Anonymous No.13413443]

>>13412987
How much is normally considered safe? Like, how much estrogen is there in 100g of soy?

[Anonymous No.13413444]

>>13412987
>Even more proof that vegans are pooftas.
color me shocked.

[Anonymous No.13413449]

>>13412987
every tranny would eat that burger every single day after this

[Anonymous No.13413451]

>>13413419
Welcome to 2016+! What year are you from?

[Anonymous No.13413460]

>>13412987
A good cheap alternative to transitioning!

[Anonymous No.13413532]

>>13412987
This has to be a meme article. Why does that burger look like some cummed in it? Why is this the only article about these whoppers and nowhere else?

[Anonymous No.13413536]

>>13413443
People taking hormone treatment only take like 3-5 mg a day and thats a big dose. This is a fucking months supply of it in one burg.

[Anonymous No.13413537]

>>13413053
Then how come trans people aren't eating Impossible burgers instead of taking hrt if it works about the same?

[Anonymous No.13413542]

>>13413532
thats melted cheese I think probably with mayo.

[Anonymous No.13413600]

>>13412987
I just had one.. Am I safe bros? Do I eat onions to counter this?

[Anonymous No.13413616]

>>13413600
Sorry anon, you got the gay. Shouldnt have ate that faggy patty

[Anonymous No.13413617]

>>13412987
enjoy the tits cunt

[Anonymous No.13413620]

>>13413537
go on /lgbt/, trannies do in fact put emphasis on eating lots of soy products

[Anonymous No.13413654]

>study finds killing humans is good for the climate
>liberals: OMG! so true! we need to start killing humans, it's the only way!
>study finds Burger if full of estrogen
>liberals:OMG! fake news, obviously some carnist made this study, estrogen are good for you anyway!

[Anonymous No.13413664]

>>13413210
You will never be a real woman

[Anonymous No.13413671]

>>13413654
rent free

[Anonymous No.13413683]

>>13412987
GOSH YES!
As a tgirl I lose SISSYBURGERS

[Anonymous No.13413690]

>>13413683
Thats Faggy Patty to you twink.

[Anonymous No.13413710]

>>13413219
This site is for actual adults, not middle-schoolers who have just about figured out that advertisements lie, get back to your homework, otherwise mom will get mad at you.

[Anonymous No.13413715]

>>13413243
>Why were 9 years of your life wasted on this?
I don't know, maybe because that's part f reality too? Surely you aren't a solipsist, or a paucipsist?

[Anonymous No.13413721]

>>13413664
And you'll never be a real man.

[Anonymous No.13413726]

>>13412987
>Trannies spend tons of good money on estrogen for their transition.
>Yet according to /fit/fags with shit genes and paranoid /pol/tards, they could get enough estrogen to last them months on end of they ate Impossible Burgers and the like often.
Boy, that gap in logic sure Is dangerous,
someone might trip on it!

[Anonymous No.13413728]

>>13413000
This.
What's the takeaway here? That vegans are fags? Stop the fucking presses...

[Anonymous No.13413736]

>>13413033
is this like when they insisted the xenoestrogens in plastic totally weren't the same as real estrogen

[Anonymous No.13413751]

>>13413419
>cunt

[Anonymous No.13413810]

>>13412987
As if the kind of person who orders this over a proper beef burger
>doesn't already get as much if not more via his normal diet of soylent and other shit
>has any male features to be damaged by this
>wouldn't call you a sexist bigot stuck in the 1950s for warning him this is a tranny pill in burger form
Seems to me like BK is just supplying a part of their customerbase what it clamours for.

[Anonymous No.13413817]

>>13413033
It's not about being right or accurate. They are just pushing a narrative and will lie through their teeth to get their propaganda out.
The only reason soy products are being hawked so much is because there's a niche to fill, soy farmers can't sell their products to China anymore due to Trumps trade war so there's a glut, and meat alternatives want to expand their market share. It's pure capitalism.

[Anonymous No.13413852]

>>13413751
Ahhh yes, the nefarious unsourced /pol/ infographic! So true!

[Anonymous No.13413864]

>>13413817
masallah tarumpu-san

[Anonymous No.13413917]

>>13412987
>phytoestrogen = estrogen
>44 mg in plant whopper! 2ng in regular whopper!
>2 million times more than regular whopper!
No shit, phytoestrogen is a PLANT PRODUCT and real meat is an ANIMAL PRODUCT, Phytoestrogen is not estrogen besides naming convention and does not have the same effects of estrogen on the human body. Doctor is also a USDA shill.

/pol/ddit being retarded as always. The impossible burger is disgusting like most plant-based meat substitutes, but I'm not going to whine about nonsense because I'm scared of a bean. Not even a fucking vegan.

[Anonymous No.13413922]

>>13413917
Anon these people are either shitposting, harvesting (You) s, and/or intentionally arguing in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.13413927]

>humanity has been consuming fruit for millennia
>now suddenly phytoestrogen is an issue because of the soy meme association

[Anonymous No.13413936]

>>13413620
But they don't replace their hrt with them, do they? That's because soy products don't feminize in any significant manner.

[Anonymous No.13413938]

>>13413721
Well he hasn't started taking girl pills with the intention of ultimately cutting his cock off so I don't know what you'd know about that

[Anonymous No.13413988]

>>13413210
Post boipucci

[Anonymous No.13413992]

>>13413938
Oooh scathing comeback. Because everyone who calls you a little bitch is a tranny right?

[Anonymous No.13414001]

>>13412992
burger king has been the only burger joint promoting gay shit so i wouldn't be surprised they did this

[Anonymous No.13414006]

I'm not vegan but it's so confusing to see people get so angry about a bunch of people not wanting to eat meat. I mean, how insecure are people like this
>>13413010
>>13413003

I was at a Sunday roast and this guy who was a total pussy (skinny, long hair, nasally voice) started going on about how he was a "meat man" and that vegetables weren't "man food". Lmao nigga what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.13414011]

>>13412987
Is this like that one Stargate episode where Aschens play a special kind of long fertilizing game ?

[Anonymous No.13414046]

The kind of person who buys plant based burgers is already too far gone.

[Anonymous No.13414092]

>Phytoestrogens are plant derived compounds found in a wide variety of foods, most notably soy. A litany of health benefits including a lowered risk of osteoporosis, heart disease, breast cancer, and menopausal symptoms, are frequently attributed to phytoestrogens but many are also considered endocrine disruptors, indicating that they have the potential to cause adverse health effects as well.
>Although relative few adverse effects have been detected, that may simply be because a surprising paucity of large-scale, comprehensive studies have been undertaken to address this issue, especially in boys. That may change in the near future because the health effects of endocrine disrupting compounds in general are receiving more attention from public health agencies, and the public at large.
>Women who are pregnant, nursing, or attempting to become pregnant should use soy foods with caution and be aware that soy formula may not be the best option for their babies.
>While the potentially beneficial effects of phytoestrogen consumption have been eagerly pursued, and frequently overstated, the potentially adverse effects of these compounds are likely underappreciated.

[Anonymous No.13414175]

>>13414006
Because red meat is fine and the old studies that propagated that bullshit are completely outdated and wrong. It's just a sales tactic, not eating meat does not make you healthy or is a healthier option.

[Anonymous No.13414201]

>I was at a Sunday roast and this guy who was a total pussy (skinny, long hair, nasally voice) started going on about how he was a "meat man" and that vegetables weren't "man food". Lmao nigga what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.13414203]

>>13414175
I thought people were vegan for ethical reasons. I don't think anyone claims shit like eggs or chicken breast is unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.13414205]

Impossible burger review of the week.

[Anonymous No.13414218]

>>13412987
Merry Christmas to you too Nazi fuck.

[Anonymous No.13414251]

>>13413620
>>13413936
If soy really did it trans would chug it
instead it's seen as a fringe benefit, a "maybe" hopeful thing in addition to HRT

the reason it's there at all is because of people trying to reach "trap aesthetics" and those first infographics having fallen for the same phytoestrogen bullshit.
but also the infographics stayed, because they advocated a lifestyle and diet that would usually lead to healthy, smooth skin. that'd loop back around into a bunch of anecdotal evidence among everyone. plus then a percentage (not all) of the people going for "trap aesthetics" realized they were just repressing being trans, and made the switch with full HRT. and now you know a bunch of useless info

[Anonymous No.13414281]

>>13413000
>>13413728
You Anons are funny.

[Anonymous No.13414375]

>>13414281
Thank you for noticing me.

[Anonymous No.13414532]

>>13412987
>44 mg of estrogen
Birth control burger

[Anonymous No.13414553]

>>13414205
Jesus you got me there I was convinced it was Reviewbrah before opening pic.

[Anonymous No.13414589]

If I feed my girlfriend with that shit for a month will their breasts increase in size?
I don’t want to impregnate her for now

[Anonymous No.13414596]

>>13414553
>he doesn’t know

Anon...

[Anonymous No.13414609]

>>13412987
Sorry. You were right.

[Anonymous No.13414632]

>>13413116
>>13413104
get out marketers.

[Anonymous No.13414647]

>>13413181
Begun these franchise wars have.

[Anonymous No.13414648]

>>13413104
This but without an atom of sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.13414650]

>>13414596
Get a haircut Austin, Woodstock ended.

[Anonymous No.13414658]

>>13412987
vegans/vegetarians dont eat this shit because usually theyve unfucked their palates enough to something other than hyperprocessed fast food

[Anonymous No.13414659]

>>13413210
Pic related is me btw.

[Anonymous No.13414665]

>>13413419
Dawww. little babby got triggered. How cute.

[Anonymous No.13414668]

>>13414659
What a Stacy, imagine sucking her sweet pre cum...

[Anonymous No.13414676]

>>13413992
dilate

[Anonymous No.13414728]

If thats true that's equivalent to 1000+ contraceptive pills (0.03mg of estrogen) or 20 menopause treatment pills (1.5mg~) or 10-20 tranny pills (2.5mg - 7mg)

[Anonymous No.13414792]

>>13414659
So depressing that women have become so horrible that gay guys seem to be better women than real ones

[Anonymous No.13415139]

>>13414218
Thanks anon. Merry Christmas. Im not a nazi though. In fact Im tollerant of everyone. I just dont like companys trying to hide things like this. Have a good day :)

[Anonymous No.13415161]

>>13414676
Kek

[Anonymous No.13415172]

>>13414609
Thank you anon. Merry Christmas.
>>13414553
Reviewbra

[Anonymous No.13415200]

>>13414792
Well they are, that's the entire point of drag shows. Women are too dumb to even be as good at being a dumb woman than a man.

[Anonymous No.13415206]

>>13413033

[Anonymous No.13415216]

>>13414792
If you knew how to read you wouldn't be sharing that clickbait as though it meant anything.

[Anonymous No.13415237]

>>13413005
It is the incessant repetition of a message no one wants to hear that fucking angers me, go back and indulge in your mutual intellectual masterbation.

[Anonymous No.13415260]

>>13413927
>gays have been called fruits for ages

Our ancestors knew.

[Anonymous No.13415316]

The following is a secret incantation to summon the s၀y shills:

Exposure to s၀y phytoestrogens causes:

Decreased testicular weight or size:
>Atanassova N, McKinnell C, Turner KJ, Walker M, Fisher JS, Morley M, Millar MR, Groome NP, Sharpe RM. Endocrinology. 2000 Oct; 141(10):3898-907.
>Nagao T, Yoshimura S, Saito Y, Nakagomi M, Usumi K, Ono H. Reprod Toxicol. 2001 Jul-Aug; 15(4):399-411.
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.

Decreased spermatogenesis (sperm production):
>Atanassova N, McKinnell C, Turner KJ, Walker M, Fisher JS, Morley M, Millar MR, Groome NP, Sharpe RM. Endocrinology. 2000 Oct; 141(10):3898-907.
>West MC, Anderson L, McClure N, Lewis SE. Hum Fertil (Camb). 2005 Sep; 8(3):197-207.

Lower testosterone:
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.

Decreased testicular expression of steroid hormone receptors:
>Shibayama T, Fukata H, Sakurai K, Adachi T, Komiyama M, Iguchi T, Mori C. Endocr J. 2001 Dec; 48(6):655-63.

Dcreased ano-genital distance (shorter distance between anus and genitals, like a woman):
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.
>Wisniewski AB, Cernetich A, Gearhart JP, Klein SL. Physiol Behav. 2005 Feb 15; 84(2):327-34.

Alterations of reproductive and aggressive behavior:
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.
>Wisniewski AB, Cernetich A, Gearhart JP, Klein SL. Physiol Behav. 2005 Feb 15; 84(2):327-34.

OR:

SMALL BALLS
>LOW SPERM
LOW T
>FUCKED UP HORMONE LEVELS IN YOUR BALLS
COCK TURNING INTO A PUSSY
>TIMID, SUBMISSIVE, BETA BEHAVIOUR

[Anonymous No.13415450]

>>13415316
All those studies were made on rats or mice. Are you mentally ill or simply a retarded /pol/cel? Either way seek psychiatric help

[Anonymous No.13415524]

>>13415450
What's with all the hostility?
All I'm saying is that soy isoflavones have been implicated in directly lowering sperm counts.
>In these multivariate analyses, men in the highest intake category of soy foods had, on average, 41 million sperm/ml less than men who did not eat soy foods.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2721724/

And even without those harmful isoflavones:
>Soy protein, regardless of isoflavone content, decreased DHT and DHT/testosterone.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098

It's a well known fact that increased levels of estrogen reduces testicle size and decreases spermatogenesis.

[Anonymous No.13415530]

>>13412987
>Eating fast food in general
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.13415587]

>>13414203
Vegans say one egg is as bad as smoking a pack of cigarettes

[Anonymous No.13415593]

>>13412987
If I eat this will my boobs get bigger?

[Anonymous No.13415601]

>>13415530
>He says as he downs his second big mac

[Anonymous No.13415606]

goddamn, are people desperately to turn everyone into trannies?

[Anonymous No.13415607]

>>13415524
>n=35
..

[Anonymous No.13415611]

>>13415593
It contains several agonists of estrogen receptors α and β, so most likely yes.
It will cause your chances of developing breast cancer to get bigger, too.

[Anonymous No.13415615]

>>13415316
>>13415524
Don't Chinese people eat tons of soy? They seem to have no trouble reproducing

[Anonymous No.13415623]

>>13415611
>It will cause your chances of developing breast cancer to get bigger, too.
By how much?

[Anonymous No.13415624]

>>13415607
what an excellent rebuttal

[Anonymous No.13415626]

>>13412987
you have thirty seconds to explain to me how plant estrogens affect your T production. cite your sources or you'll lose all your gains in your sleep tonight

[Anonymous No.13415635]

>>13415316
So does testosterone, nigger. Roided-up bodybuilders have tiny dicks as a result of steroids, not vice versa.

You're better off trying not to be fat in the first place.

[Anonymous No.13415649]

>>13415624
It's actually a perfect rebuttal. That's a laughably low sample size.

[Anonymous No.13415656]

>>13415615
Yes, but the thing is no burger regardless of what kind should have that much estrogen in it. The only conclusion being that they injected that shit in there. Theyre literally using people as test subjects and no one seems to care. Everyone is fighting about trannies and man boobs while they sit back and decide what to put in our food next. Cyanide perhaps? Maybe a bunch of hydrolic fluid (which there is a "food grade" version of).

[Anonymous No.13415663]

>>13415626
No need for proof.
Just look at your average fan of soy plant based food. The moobs, feminine demeanor, and soy-grin is enough evidence.

[Anonymous No.13415666]

>>13415587
Maybe insane ones. Get your info from medical journal not your fucking Facebook feed, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.13415667]

>>13415656
How much of the same phytoestrogen is in an orange or a serving of spinach?

[Anonymous No.13415672]

>>13415663

[Anonymous No.13415678]

>>13415623
I can't say exactly how much per burger, given we don't know its exact contents (and it's christmas and I'm drunk), but I've done my best to find you this graph (pic related) from a study you may also find helpful:

>Pastor-Barriuso, R., et al. Total Effective Xenoestrogen Burden in Serum Samples and Risk for Breast Cancer in a Population-Based Multicase–Control Study in Spain. Environmental Health Perspectives, 124(10), pp.1575-1582.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27203080

[Anonymous No.13415694]

>>13415667
36 an 7 micrograms respectivly. This burg has 44 milograms. Hundreds of thousands of time more.

[Anonymous No.13415700]

>>13415666
This is from Dr Neal Barnard, a vegan doctor and was in What The Health

[Anonymous No.13415705]

>>13415450
Don't be reddit.

[Anonymous No.13415709]

Scans thread for a link to a reputable source. Not a single one. Claim dismissed. Shit tier propaganda.

[Anonymous No.13415711]

>>13415700
Oh right that very biased propaganda documentary? Again, there's morons on both sides who twist statistics for their narrative. Ignore them. Eat both meat and vegetables like the millions of other people that have eaten both and lived healthily well into their 80s. Even cutting out the meat isn't going to do shit. Health is more than food.

[Anonymous No.13415713]

>>13415649
No it isn't, N=35 is fine.
Two other studies cited in the article, on the same subject, have n=14 and n=48 respectively.
Where were you educated that you think a small sample size automatically makes a study 'bad'?
Your rebuttal is what's laughable.

[Anonymous No.13415753]

>>13415713
>No it isn't, N=35 is fine.
wrong

[Anonymous No.13415804]

>>13415753
Another excellent rebuttal.
You planning on backing that up with anything?
N=35 is fine.

It's a small cross-sectional study suggesting a link between isoflavones and sperm quality in humans, yes, but it exists as part of the wider literature, with myriad supporting animal studies, which help to confirm the link between reproductive performance and soy isoflavone intake (including but not limited to decreased testicular weight or size, decreased spermatogenesis, lower testosterone, and decreased testicular expression of steroid hormone receptors).

Sure, a bigger sample size is always better, but N=35 is fine for suggesting people cut soy out of their diets as much as possible.
We don't really need it in our diets, and the current literature suggests it's harmful to our reproductive health.

Why would anyone take the risk by eating soy?

[Anonymous No.13415826]

>>13413093
Not really, the cows are stuffed with gmo grain and soy

[Anonymous No.13415901]

>>13413751
>our bodies MIGHT respond to phytoestrogen like estrogen

[Anonymous No.13415907]

>>13415804
>the current literature suggests it's harmful to our reproductive health.
No, it doesn't. The study you linked to is from a fertility center that was studying subfertile couples. The men involved in the study were *already* having trouble conceiving, before soy. Shoo shoo, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.13415910]

Reminder that there is no evidence that consuming phytoestrogens has any negative impact

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224

[Anonymous No.13415919]

>>13415316
>latest study in 2005

[Anonymous No.13415932]

>>13415910
but its plant estrogen! Clearly it slowly turns you into a plant girl

[Anonymous No.13415977]

>>13415907
Explain how the fact that the men in that particular study were considered to be subfertile serves to negates the fact that there was an inverse association between soy food intake and sperm concentration.
Are you suggesting that soy only has deleterious effects on men who are already experiencing fertility problems?

[Anonymous No.13415981]

>>13414792
watch out, you've been fed propaganda

[Anonymous No.13415986]

>>13412987
Piss off and eat your bugs and toenails, nobody cares about your hippy bullshit.

[Anonymous No.13415990]

>>13415981
As opposed to what? Your socialist agenda, but that's not propaganda?

[Anonymous No.13415991]

>>13412987
What the hell kind of name is "Baxter Dmitry?" Is that actually a possible combination of names?

[Anonymous No.13415995]

>>13412987

when is the class action lawsuit happening.

[Anonymous No.13416012]

>>13415990
>but I *like* this progaganda!
The eternal meatcuck....

>>13415977
Only study that showed lower sperm count actually showed lower concentration since soy makes your loads bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ogcNcSYZi8

[Anonymous No.13416016]

>>13415991
Could be worse, it could be "Beaver Cleaver"

[Anonymous No.13416029]

>>13412987
You made this exact post on /sp/ yesterday
amazing how fake news conservatard websites are the only ones running this story from a livestock website written in a blog by a veterinarian who didnt even cite his source. The Impossible whopper has as much estrogen as a onions protein bar which is fucking comparatively nothing
https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

[Anonymous No.13416030]

>>13415977
You can't explain studies correctly to people who aren't willing to ask themselves logical questions about the data.
It should be rhetorical that the negative association found between phytoestrogen intake and fertility affects more than the just the most effeminate of the population, but people shilling for an agenda will do anything to deny reality.

[Anonymous No.13416036]

men need estrogen tho, that has no significant issues
The problem is chemicals that block testosterone.

[Anonymous No.13416039]

>>13412987
18 million? vegan bois will end up with their cocks inverting and turning into vaginas!

[Anonymous No.13416041]

>>13415524
Sperm concentration is not sperm count

[Anonymous No.13416047]

>>13415709
https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

A veterinarian from a livestock website who didnt cite any of his sources, literally only low grade fake news boomer websites are circulating this.

[Anonymous No.13416058]

>>13415977
There wasn't a strict inverse association, in fact, which you would know if you read your own study. Sperm concentration went from 69m/ml in group with 0.01-0.07 serv/day soy foods to 86m/ml in group with 0.08-0.29 serv/day.
Besides, as another anon pointed out, "concentration" doesn't tell you about sperm health or sperm count, which is a more important factor.

Also from your own source:
>The clinical significance of these findings remains to be determined. Owing to the scarcity of human data in this area, it is very important that this issue is examined further, ideally in randomized trials.
so basically shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you're talking about, you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

[Anonymous No.13416069]

>>13415986
Retard. Im obviously against the shit. Learn to read before commenting.

[Anonymous No.13416073]

>>13416058
Its interesting. Theres a similar sort of bell curve with bpa, tiny tiny amounts can possibly cause drops in testosterone, moderate amounts can possibly cause nothing, then very large amounts can cause a drop.

[Anonymous No.13416102]

>>13416029
Never even been to /sp/ even so everyone is missing the point. Its not about the estrogen. Its about the government overloading shhit in food the pusshing it out on the masses, but of course every time Ive brought that up it gets ignored (wonder whos behind that). Everyone wants to argue about soyboys and fucking mantits onstead of realizing this is the first step in loading down a new food with some shit just to see what happens. Heres a good one. Ever had chicken from Tyson, Con Agra, or Pilgrims? If so youve 100% eaten hydrolic fluid. Ive seen the mixing machines leak that shit all over and OSHA just look the other way while they pack it up. You would fucking gag if you knew the shit they do. This is about them experimenting on is not fucking MANTITS.

[Anonymous No.13416131]

>>13414792
>women only going on a date if you give them something they want

This is news?

[Anonymous No.13416134]

>>13416102
The government has nothing to do with the Impossible Burger or Impossible whopper. The estrogen might even be less than a soy protein powder. Its not experimenting either, experiments have been well documented, cheap shit in food is CHEAP cost cutting shit

[Anonymous No.13416185]

>meatcucks getting thus triggered over a fast food menu item
literally just don't order it what's the big deal?

[Anonymous No.13416196]

>>13416069
I don't need to learn to read Alexis tells me everything I need to know.

[Anonymous No.13416409]

>>13416134
Even so that Im still pissed about the treatment of our food. Its discusting and there is still this kind of shit going on. OSHA is a government entity and Ive seen those motherfuckers do some wild shit. Ya know that "delicious" batter on Tyson nuggies? Bet you didnt know its part actual sand. Thats why its crunchy they use very fine grit sand as a cost cutting filler. Im just a regular dude and Ive seen this shit. Imagine what we dont know.

[Anonymous No.13416419]

>>13413104
double quarter pounder no cheese large fry large coke pilled

[Anonymous No.13416440]

>>13416409
source

[Anonymous No.13416475]

>>13416440
20 years in the food industry. I know your probably not gonna take my word for it, and honestly I dont blame you at all, but If Ive seen the shit surely someone elsenout there has spoken up about things. Its illegal to film inside factorys too so almost 0% chance there is any photographic evidence. If you ever meet someone who has worked in food factorys ask em what they know. You just might be stunned about what they tell you.

[Anonymous No.13416482]

>>13416475
any recomendations on what to eat if everything is shit

[Anonymous No.13416494]

Does anyone know WHY it contains so much estrogen? Is it a preservative, does it flavor the meat? Why is a medical-grade dose of estrogen in a fast food burger??

[Anonymous No.13416500]

>>13412987
Googled headline got this

https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction2/comments/efbj94/burger_king_in_crisis_as_vegan_impossible_burger/

Typical /pol/redditor shit cross pollinating sites like faggots. Actual article:

https://newspunch.com/burger-king-crisis-vegan-impossible-burger-found-contain-44mg-estrogen/

Drudge-report wannbe site. The article uses this as their main source:

https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

For one it's on a trade news site for beef ranchers. Of course they'll push "news" that their competitor is bad. Second, this """"doctor"""" doesn't source anything. He just gives rando back-of-the-napkin calculations and doesn't cite shit. Nowhere does he show how he arrives at the 44mg conclusion. He just makes the claim and that's it.

Typical Info Wars tier bullshit that no doubt /pol/la/ck/s are eating up.

[Anonymous No.13416524]

>>13416500
>/pol/redditor
do you have an agenda or something?

[Anonymous No.13416526]

>>13416524
yeah it's called murder the fucking election tourists who turned this site into a boomer twitter feed of paranoia and retarded insecurity.

[Anonymous No.13416529]

>>13416482
Not factory made chicken thats for sure. My expertiese is in the chicken industry mostly, but frozen meals are a no go too. Honestly from the things I saw I went full mountain man and grow and hunt all my food or buy it from known hunters on my area. Im lucky to have a few buddys that hint for sport so I get a lot of free meat too. Its hard to change from prossesed shit to wild game, but you get a taste for it and I know theres no sand, hydrolic fluid, or preservation chemicals in my shit. Ill tell ya what too man Ive been doing it this way for 5 or 6 years now and I feel soooo good compaired to how I used too. I actually feel healthy Im hardly tired anymore and Im happier. Its hard work living this way Im not gonna lie but its worth it. If you dont wanna go full hermit then Im not really sure what to tell you because from what Ive seen Im convinced its all garbage. Try making you a garden at least. Grow you some letuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, and all that good stuff. Its easy as fuck honestly. I planted me some orange, cherry, and apple trees last year too. Cant wait till they start bearing fruit.

[Anonymous No.13416531]

>>13416529
sadly im poor so cant do that shit
looks like its sand for me

[Anonymous No.13416536]

>>13416494
You're asking why plants contain plant estrogen?

[Anonymous No.13416537]

>>13416494
Because it's not actual estrogen, rather phytoestrogen which is a plant compound that has estrogen in the name because it's shaped like estrogen but literally shares no chemical similarities to actual estrogen besides it's molecular shape. /pol/dditors like yourself don't understand how chemistry works so you think this makes it literal estrogen. Then you have scientific experts like Alex Jones back you up so you begin to think there is no way in hell that you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.13416539]

>>13416529
Daddy Tr*mp has been gutting food regulatory agencies left and right so enjoy things getting worse drumpflets :^))))

[Anonymous No.13416541]

Saying the phytoestrogen in plants can effect you like estrogen is like saying melatonin will make you trip balls if you smoke it because it looks a lot like DMT. Biochemistry is insanely precise, one atom difference can make a molocule behave completely differently. Phytoestrogens are incapable of performing the role of estrogen. They actually block the receptors reducing the impact of the native estrogen in the body. On the other hand, the hormones found in animal products are actual bioactive hormones and very much do manipulate the body In negative ways. Also, fun fact, the biggest source of phytoestrogen in the american diet isnt soy, its beer.

[Anonymous No.13416543]

>>13416526
>/pol/redditor

[Anonymous No.13416546]

>>13416541
>They actually block the receptors reducing the impact of the native estrogen in the body.
Are you implying all phytoestrogens are ER antagonists? Because that's just plain fucking wrong.
You're a liar.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15084758

[Anonymous No.13416549]

>>13416543
yeah genius, everyone who disagrees with you has a big secret meeting on discord where we talk about how stupid you are. now you never have to change your mind about anything, you have a folder full of random discord images ready to go!

[Anonymous No.13416550]

>>13416526
If only real moot were still here to just delete /pol/ddit.
>but then they'll take over the other boards!
Nah, they only come here for /pol/ and would be reluctant to stay if it disappeared. The blue boards that they shit up won't satiate their hunger for retarded conspiracies and pseudo-political arguments. With no board to constantly pat them on the back for being part of the herd and rub their boo boos, convincing them that they were right when they lose an argument they'll probably return to their r/The_Donald home or be compelled to create a 4chan clone specifically for /pol/ddit-tier conversation (assuming any of them have any technical knowledge).

It just really sucks that gookmoot cares more about poster quantity for advertisers rather than board quality

[Anonymous No.13416551]

>>13416546
Phytoestrogens and Disease: http://tinyurl com/hfxu23q
Phytoestrogens and Heart Disease: http://tinyurl com/zg2nh7a
Phytoestrogen and Kidney Disease: http://tinyurl com/jtwyanb
High soy can result in 59% less breast cancer study: http://tinyurl com/j8ywsra
Soy yields 13% lower LDL/Bad Cholesterol Study: http://tinyurl com/hhf4weq
Soy and Men Hormones Study: http://tinyurl com/hsu4wqk
Meta-analysis on men, soy and phytoestrogen extracts: http://tinyurl com/ja5s9k2 30-50% of men get manboobs: http://tinyurl com/zb58cbs
Phytoestrogen content of various foods: http://tinyurl com/z3kpvsw 220 women over 2 years soy study: http://tinyurl com/z4tbb7d
Meta-analysis on 47 studies no estrogen change: http://tinyurl com/hsm6ctb Soy Men
Review/Final Quote on
Soy isoflavones activate your body's estrogen receptors, proteins that detect the presence of estrogen and carry out effects such as changes in gene expression. However, isoflavones do so more weakly than your body's natural estrogen. If estrogen is absent, isoflavones weakly activate the estrogen receptor, mitigating the effect of low estrogen. If estrogen is abundant, isoflavones interfere with the activity of natural estrogen, limiting the effect of high estrogen levels. Since the structure of isoflavones is similar to estrogen, isoflavones may decrease your body's production of estrogen and increase the rate of estrogen degradation due to feedback mechanisms that control estrogen levels.

[Anonymous No.13416553]

>>13416549
You're literally using the language you've been told to use.

[Anonymous No.13416556]

>>13416551
Can you cite your sources properly? I'm not going to click that shit.

[Anonymous No.13416558]

>>13416556
>i can't read a study
Toothless

[Anonymous No.13416559]

>>13416553
Hillary Clinton is paying people to shill for Big Soy on /ck/! I fucking knew it! Buy my brain drops!

[Anonymous No.13416561]

>>13416553
Yep. I get paid $9.50 to make fun of you on 4chan all day. You cracked it. Now do you have any arguments about listening to a vet rant about made up figures for estrogen or what?

[Anonymous No.13416563]

>>13416551
Also, you tried to imply ALL phytoestrogens were ER antagonists, when it's more complicated than that.
Why are you shilling for soy?

[Anonymous No.13416565]

>>13416556
Lol. Cope, seethe, with a side of cringe.

[Anonymous No.13416567]

>>13416563
>I can't read a study

[Anonymous No.13416568]

>>13416558
Now you're just acting childish.
>>13416559
Two of you? But not coordinated. Right.
>>13416561
Three of you, for just me? Jesus I must piss you discord trannies off.

[Anonymous No.13416570]

>>13416568
Based schizo

[Anonymous No.13416573]

>>13416568
>Three of you, for just me? Jesus I must piss you discord trannies off.
Still waiting on an argument kiddo. Are we discord trannies or shareblue antifa soros shills? Pick a lane.

[Anonymous No.13416574]

>>13416565
>>13416567
Interesting strategy. Not at all transparent.
Generally speaking, using ridicule against your opponent is supposed to be funny, rather than you coming across like bitchy thots.

[Anonymous No.13416576]

>>13416573
false dichotomy, why can't there be overlap?

[Anonymous No.13416577]

>>13416553
lmao, /pol/ddit conspiracies are fucking hilarious. I remember thinking up "/pol/ddit" 2 years ago and was surprised when I saw other people using it. Of course it's become another foil-hat conspiracy. /pol/dditors find it impossible to believe that someone might disagree with anything they say. What gets me is that I'm extremely conservative in my viewpoints, but I couldn't ever associate myself with such an incredibly dumb mass of faggots. I can't stand circle-jerking hiveminds no matter what side of the fence they fall on. /po/dditors are no better than antifa brainlets who bikelock people in the head for disagreeing with them.

[Anonymous No.13416578]

>>13416568
Toothless schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.13416582]

>>13416576
Why can't you address my original post without resorting to non-sequiturs? My post must have really struck a nerve for this much avoidance.

[Anonymous No.13416583]

>>13416574
lol jesus dude

[Anonymous No.13416586]

>>13416568
>more than one person thinks I'm retarded! It must be a discord raid
Funny how /pol/dditors cry "foul play" when there is more than one person telling them off, but don't hesitate to gang up on someone who posts something they don't agree with.

[Anonymous No.13416587]

These are hilarious. It is almost to the point where I felt like I was reading satire. Here is the of source national file is referencing, I'm linking it because the nf source is basically a poorly worded regurgitation of the same article. Note: the source is a blog from Tri State LIVESTOCK news, so already biased source. The "Dr" lists his credentials as dvm, doctor of vetenary medicine. Also note, no sources for any claims anywhere. There is no analysis or study which actually looked at the difference between a Whopper and impossible.

https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

[Anonymous No.13416588]

There are readily apparent concerns regarding soy and reproductive health.
Why are there groups of people across several boards advocating the consumption of soy, mocking anyone who dares disagree?

[Anonymous No.13416592]

>>13413053
Lol wtf so you're retarded ass thinks regular estrogen is permanent? The biggest difference is the affinity to bind, you need way more phytoestrogens to demonstrate an effect because you need to saturate the receptors before it will bind. Why? Because it isn't estrogen. That receptor is made for estrogen. It just so happens phytoestrogens have a similar structure so they CAN bind, but you're ignoring that normally, they won't, at least not in any concentration that causes an effect.

If this isn't bullshit, and they've somehow accidentally turned beans into hormones, it won't fly. You'll have complications with early pregnancies, children would show dramatic effects, too. These aren't birth control pills. They're just shitty fake meat that's generally unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.13416593]

>>13416588
The same reason why there's people on multiple boards proposing the sky is blue and the earth is round and mocking those who disagree. Being wrong isn't persecution you moron.

[Anonymous No.13416594]

>>13416586
You think any given board is a homogeneous group of people?
How long have you spent on this website?

[Anonymous No.13416597]

Saw the article too. The guy who wrote it is involved with breitbart somehow, so feel free to disregard.

[Anonymous No.13416599]

>>13416593
It's clearly not something that has a definitive answer, though.
There is legitimate reason for concern, why attack me?

[Anonymous No.13416608]

Phytoestrogens can actually have anti-oxidative effects and are considered phytochemicals-they help defend against and prevent various diseases. The antivegans on this website are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13416613]

>>13416599
Because nobody who posts these kinds of threads cares about real science or the actual health effects. They just want to rant about a conspiracy to make people eat bugs and cry about the decline in Western masculinity. I'm attacking you because you're wrong and just because I can, faggot.

[Anonymous No.13416618]

They hit the receptor, fail to activate it, and block actual estrogen. Reducing risk of estrogen driven cancers.

[Anonymous No.13416620]

>>13416608
They're also implicated in potentially elevating cancer risk.
"Phytochemicals" just means chemicals found in plants, so to say that they help defend against and prevent various diseases simply as a result of them being phytochemicals is just bizarre nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13416622]

>>13416594
I've been here since 2006, came from Newgrounds if you even remember that place. I spent 2 years on /pol/ (2015-2017) after watching the rest of the site turn to shit and thought it was some secret cove for people who upheld the spirit of old 4chan. After that time I came to realize that it was just a big circle-jerk hivemind. If you were actually on this site before the 2016 election you would realized that 4chan always had a somewhat homogeneous where people were either "in" or "out" based on how they acted. The anonymity part would give people a lot of tries to get with it and become part of the group. To say /pol/ddit isn't a hivemind in anyway is ignorant and makes it incredibly obvious that you're either retarded or in denial. /pol/ takes it to a new reddit-tier level and has become a cancerous circle-jerk.

[Anonymous No.13416627]

>>13416622
Oldfag here, this is correct

[Anonymous No.13416631]

>>13416622
I realize I made a few grammatical mistakes in this post, but I've had some wine tonight so my thought process is a bit delayed. I'm sure the point is still clear and just want to post this before the /pol/dditors jump on it for the errors.

[Anonymous No.13416632]

>>13416613
You and I both know the evidence people have posted in this thread is essentially inconclusive.
All the sources say there's "not enough evidence".
So it stands to reason you have an ulterior motive for shilling soy, or you're just a know-it-all jackass who thinks he's right about everything.

This is a nice board; your hostility is foreign.

[Anonymous No.13416634]

>>13416622
Been here since 2008 and can back this up

[Anonymous No.13416637]

>>13416632
>does soy make you gay?
>science: nothing suggests that

>/pol/: SOY MAKES YOU GAY
>no it doesnt
>you, a retard:

[Anonymous No.13416641]

>>13416632
The evidence is clear. Soy does not affect the human endocrine system. This has been tested on humans and vigorously studied.

[Anonymous No.13416643]

>>13416622
I disagree that it's a hivemind, but I can see how it might look like that from an outsiders perspective.
In reality, you have all these different migration waves with their own idiosyncrasies, different factions and generals with their own memes and tropes, and so on.
They rarely agree on anything, actually.

[Anonymous No.13416647]

>>13416632
My original post wasn't about studies. It wasn't even about whether or not phytoestrogens are beneficial/harmful. I simply noted that the OP's article was shared on reddit and then a shitty news aggregator. I also noted the main source was from a doctor of veterinary medicine who wrote a bad article from a scientific standpoint. You then replied with a screenshot and accused me of being a paid shill. You have yet to address what I originally posted. Now you're laying the entire argument of this thread at my feet as if I've been here the whole time arguing something I haven't been.

If you can't handle this tame "hostility" you need to go back to your reddit hovel. There's no points to be scored by pretending to be a victim of cyberbullying.

[Anonymous No.13416655]

>>13416647
Kek, OP was destroyed in one post

[Anonymous No.13416659]

>>13416637
This is just a weak form of argument, no-one here is legitimately talking about homosexuality.
I'm not /pol/.
>>13416641
It's not clear though, is it?

It's well-known that soy isoflavones can bind to estrogen receptors.
That sounds like an effect on the human endocrine system, does it not?

Soy isoflavones, and other phytoestrogens are WIDELY considered to be endocrine disrupting compounds, behaving either as weak estrogen mimics or as antiestrogens.

You people are saying I'm 'wrong', and then you spout crap like that.
You're wrong.

[Anonymous No.13416661]

>>13416647
Because you're clearly a hostile actor.

[Anonymous No.13416663]

>>13413000
Trips of truth

[Anonymous No.13416664]

>>13416659
Prove it. Oh right, you tried and posted a n=1 study that has no science within. Nice try toothless.

[Anonymous No.13416667]

>>13416659
I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you to eat shit because you're stupid. Why would I waste time aruing with a retard?

[Anonymous No.13416668]

>>13416661
The world is but a stage homo. Now stop deflecting.

[Anonymous No.13416677]

>>13416664
Prove what? I've not said anything controversial.
Just basic facts.
>>13416667
You know how I know you're ugly?
>>13416668
Go climb a wall of dicks. All three of you.

[Anonymous No.13416681]

>>13416659
OP has been in this thread trying to shill anti-science since noon. He's (you)d every post that he diagrees with. Today is Christmas. Do the math.

[Anonymous No.13416685]

>>13416677
I'm glad you finally admit you have no argument. We can all agree that the guy who has his arm up a cow's ass all day probably isn't the best source for human nutritional science. And his shitty article with made-up figures isn't something we should be clutching pearls about.

[Anonymous No.13416686]

>>13416666
imagine arguing with strangers over the internet

[Anonymous No.13416693]

>>13416685
The following is a secret incantation to anger the soy shills:

Exposure to soy phytoestrogens causes:

Decreased testicular weight or size:
>Atanassova N, McKinnell C, Turner KJ, Walker M, Fisher JS, Morley M, Millar MR, Groome NP, Sharpe RM. Endocrinology. 2000 Oct; 141(10):3898-907.
>Nagao T, Yoshimura S, Saito Y, Nakagomi M, Usumi K, Ono H. Reprod Toxicol. 2001 Jul-Aug; 15(4):399-411.
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.

Decreased spermatogenesis (sperm production):
>Atanassova N, McKinnell C, Turner KJ, Walker M, Fisher JS, Morley M, Millar MR, Groome NP, Sharpe RM. Endocrinology. 2000 Oct; 141(10):3898-907.
>West MC, Anderson L, McClure N, Lewis SE. Hum Fertil (Camb). 2005 Sep; 8(3):197-207.

Lower testosterone:
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.

Decreased testicular expression of steroid hormone receptors:
>Shibayama T, Fukata H, Sakurai K, Adachi T, Komiyama M, Iguchi T, Mori C. Endocr J. 2001 Dec; 48(6):655-63.

Decreased ano-genital distance (shorter distance between anus and genitals, like a woman):
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.
>Wisniewski AB, Cernetich A, Gearhart JP, Klein SL. Physiol Behav. 2005 Feb 15; 84(2):327-34.

Alterations of reproductive and aggressive behavior:
>Wisniewski AB, Klein SL, Lakshmanan Y, Gearhart JP. J Urol. 2003 Apr; 169(4):1582-6.
>Wisniewski AB, Cernetich A, Gearhart JP, Klein SL. Physiol Behav. 2005 Feb 15; 84(2):327-34.

OR:

SMALL BALLS
>LOW SPERM
LOW T
>FUCKED UP HORMONE LEVELS IN YOUR BALLS
COCK TURNING INTO A PUSSY
>TIMID, SUBMISSIVE, BETA BEHAVIOUR

[Anonymous No.13416700]

>>13416693
This has already been posted and thoroughly dunked on retard.

[Anonymous No.13416703]

>>13416700
How come people are voting increasingly right across the western world?
Why are you ugly commies losing so badly?

[Anonymous No.13416705]

>>13413033
I hope you fill yourself up with all sorts of soy products and get what you deserve.

[Anonymous No.13416714]

pro-soy = pro-communist
prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.13416717]

>>13416693
>soy shills
>doesn't post links, only sensationalist headlines
Soy is mainly use for animal feed. About 94% produced is fed to animals. If "omg BIG SOY Dx!" was so involved in shilling why would it make sense to have humans eat it? Animals that are used to produce meat need about 12 calories for every calorie they produce, and 99% of the world's animals killed for meat are factory farmed.

Personally I think you have a hidden agenda. Be honest, did the vegans trigger your feefees toothless?

[Anonymous No.13416724]

>>13416693
What does this have to do with my post?
>TIMID, SUBMISSIVE, BETA BEHAVIOR
Rhetorical skill and debate has been a treasure and tool of Western Civilization for thousands of years. Gleefully wallowing in logical fallacies is anti-West. Running away from an argument by throwing out deflections is pretty beta.

You can lie to us and pretend you don't care. But don't lie to yourself. The West is fallen because people like yourself shun intellectualism in favor of populism.

[Anonymous No.13416725]

>>13416717
Sensationalist headlines?
What the fuck are you on about?
That's paraphrasing with Harvard referencing, m8.

[Anonymous No.13416730]

>>13416725
>maybe if I deflect, they won't hear the drones outside my window

[Anonymous No.13416732]

>>13416724
>Gleefully wallowing in logical fallacies is anti-West.
Zeno of Elea, and his mates Bertrand and Gödel would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous No.13416739]

>>13416730
What is that even supposed to mean?
I'm sure it sounded funny in your head, but could you explain it to us neurotypicals?

[Anonymous No.13416772]

>>13416703
Imagine staking out soybeans as your lynchpin hill to die on for your gay little culture war.

[Anonymous No.13416775]

>>13416725
>That's paraphrasing with Harvard referencing, m8.
Kek, it isn't paraphrasing when you haven't read anything. It is parroting.

[Anonymous No.13416790]

>>13416772
MY culture war?
>>13416775
Paraphrasing.

[Anonymous No.13416810]

>>13412987
Never tried it
Never will
Fast food is shit
End yourselves

[Anonymous No.13416821]

>>13413600
better start shopping for bras

[Anonymous No.13416824]

>>13416790
You can't possibly paraphrase an article without reading it.

[Anonymous No.13416826]

>>13416824
Paraphrasing.

[Anonymous No.13416827]

>>13413033
imagine being such a dumb kike that has such a terrible time influencing opinion that you are forced to pay a legion of pajeets to larp as retarded strawman so you can make another post "defeating" them.
fuck off kike.

[Anonymous No.13416839]

>>13416827
You really got triggerred by the truth, huh?

Big reminder to continue to sage every post ITT.

[Anonymous No.13416852]

>>13416839

[Anonymous No.13417419]

So eating these burgers will turn people into Trannies?

[Anonymous No.13417435]

>>13413033
>phyto estrogens from plants are totally different than animal estrogen.
Imagine being this retarded.

[Anonymous No.13417446]

>>13417419
That or it could just be a coincidence that transexual persons just happen to prefer these soy-based foods?

[Anonymous No.13417485]

Anecdotal, but after having been on a no processed foods, no alcohol, low carb/keto diet for several years, I have visibly lost considerable non-fatty breast tissue (moobs). I do eat vegetables, but no grains or legumes. I really do think grain-centric high carbohydrate diets cause men to have secondary feminine physical charateristics over long periods of time. The idea that men and women have different macronutrient requirements isn't really mind-blowing. The idea that all diets are ideal for all human beings is what's radical (and ridiculous). Political correctness has caused loss of dietary common sense.

[Anonymous No.13417514]

>>13417446
Haha, imagine having Greta as your pet running around the house completely naked and shitting in a litterbox and you have to clean up after her.

[Anonymous No.13417537]

For me, it's the original chicken sandwich

[Anonymous No.13417565]

>>13415991
A man with a history of writing for a number of rather colorful "news outlets", apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch

[Anonymous No.13417572]

>>13417435
Yes they are. Do you have anything else to add?

[Anonymous No.13417573]

>>13412987
YourNewsWire is a fake news site that's literally being run by a huge faggot who just reposts stories made up by his mom: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news-fcmzc05sx

[Anonymous No.13417633]

>>13417485
Yes. It's political correctness run amok that you're too much of a fat stupid virgin to realize you lost weight because you put down the fork. But thanks for your musings on diet, masculinity, and politics. I'm surprised you're extremely well versed in those topics.

[Anonymous No.13417672]

>>13415666
All vegans are insane, Satan. Some of them are just quieter about it than others.

[Anonymous No.13417688]

>>13415711
>>13415666
https://www.atherosclerosis-journal.com/article/S0021-9150%2812%2900504-7/abstract
Maybe you should stop being biased and evaluate the research instead of whining about "both sides"

[Anonymous No.13417713]

>>13417688
Have you ever read meta research on nutrition? The whole field is atrocious for bias of all sorts. It's like exercise science research, fucking studies with 9 people claiming that squat X is better than squat Y for glutes. We know what's good for humans to eat, these articles that say doing X increases risk of Y by Z use flawed longitudinal and observational studies that can't possibly take into account all factors.

[Anonymous No.13417728]

>>13417688
>>13417713
Also, the research has already been evaluated. It's called a systematic review, and they always find the same thing: research is biased and poor quality in nutrition science.

[Anonymous No.13417733]

All of you faggots ITT being so deathly afraid of a damn bean are so pathetic that I can't even laugh at you.

[Anonymous No.13417736]

I still don't get why you guys are so autistically upset about things like this.

[Anonymous No.13417747]

>>13417733
>>13417736
>caring about your health is for dummies, come get SRS with the cool kids!

[Anonymous No.13417757]

>>13417747
Estrogen in a burger isn't gonna kill you and I doubt the average person eats burgers often enough that it's a cause for concern.

[Anonymous No.13417790]

>>13417757
>being a girl won’t kill you, bigot, now eat your hormoneburger

[Anonymous No.13417797]

>>13417790
How retarded do you have to be to think something like this is gonna actually make you more feminine?

[Anonymous No.13417823]

>>13417747
Phytoestrogen doesn't have the same effects as actual estrogen. What's wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.13417832]

>>13417790
Pol is leaking hard, my god

[Anonymous No.13417833]

>>13417713
>>13417728
>get clear and concisely research that refutes your claims

>W-WELL IT DOESNT COUNT NUTRITION IS BUNK ANYWAYS
Yeah cool biases, faggot. Eat shit

[Anonymous No.13417897]

>>13417833
>persons at risk of cardiovascular disease
You didn't even read the fucking abstract.

[Anonymous No.13417913]

>>13417823
>What's wrong with you?
I became a /pol/cel.

[Anonymous No.13417972]

sure is grain merchant in here

[Anonymous No.13417990]

>>13412987
Plant estrogen is not the same as human estrogen you retard.

[Anonymous No.13417995]

>>13413210
Exactly, 44mg of actual estrogen would kill you from liver failure/blood clots.

This is plant estrogen, phytoestrogens, it doesn't effect humans in the same ways.

[Anonymous No.13418002]

[Anonymous No.13418007]

>>13418002
>phone filename
>dead reddit meme
like fucking pottery

[Anonymous No.13418012]

What, people can’t phonepost anymore? Plus, I stole that from iFunny, not reddit, which is probably even more of a crime.

[Anonymous No.13418033]

>>13415667
>>13415694
>>13415656
as a trap I whistleblow this all the time but no one fucking listens to me. The jewish shills are non stop and do a good job of making retarded conservatives think they can take on the whole world and them at the same time. we need to cut this problem off at the source.

[Anonymous No.13418047]

>>13418012
you're concentrating too much newnigger cancer in one post, tone it down a bit

[Anonymous No.13418053]

>>13416539
>source: dude trust me

[Anonymous No.13418055]

>>13416559
Stay Stalwart

[Anonymous No.13418073]

>>13418053
>public record information is fake
Don't you have some boots to lick, cultist?

[Anonymous No.13418105]

>>13417990
once again not the fucking point
see
>>13416102
>>13416409
>>13416475
but Im sure you already know all this dont you goyim

[Anonymous No.13418130]

>>13417823
yes it does

[Anonymous No.13418139]

>All the people getting overly emotional trying to defend the burger.
Ladies please.
(Your being hormonal)

[Anonymous No.13418154]

> That amount of estrogen is enough to trigger cases of breast cancer even in males.

Imagine being a vegan male with breast cancer...

[Anonymous No.13418157]

>>13418139
>Your

[Anonymous No.13418319]

>>13418154
Imagine being a vegan male kek

[Anonymous No.13418323]

>>13418319
I don't have to imagine what I already am.

[Anonymous No.13418328]

>>13418154
Allah's punishment for vegans is fitting. Animals were created to be eaten.

[Anonymous No.13418839]

>>13415450
Some years ago I was drinking soy milk regularly, 1l at a time, I had a painful lump in my right breast
I had heard of it in the 2000s, experienced it on myself
Tofu is safe I think as it's been a food for a while (since it's fermented soy it has a different effect I guess), buy massive soy usage is definitely problematic

[Anonymous No.13418861]

>>13416622
Oldfag here since Grinman. Can vouch for this analysis. /pol/ has become /4thReich/ around 2010-2011
For all the conspiracytards, think about Operation Paperclip, Werner von Braun, Space Nazis, Breakaway Civilization and social engineering.

[Anonymous No.13419197]

>>13413671
Rent free what? That doesnt even make fucking sense in context. Do you know what the phrase "rent free" actually means?

[Anonymous No.13419265]

>>13419197
Obviously not, and while we're here, it pisses me off how they use 'snowflake' as a synonym for 'delicate' when referring to the anyone they don't like, when it actually refers to THEIR tendency to think of themselves as entirely different and unique, like a snowflake.