Coffee Time /general/

[Anonymous No.13324647]

Espresso Edition. This thread is for all coffee related discussion and inquiries.

>what are you drinking
>where is it from
>getting anymore

Previous thread >>13247180

[Anonymous No.13324689]

>>13324647
I went to my local coffee shop. Asked for an Americano with 7 shots.
> "are you sure?"

Yeah I'm sure.

I drank half a cup, it was dark roast. Dam pretty good I tasted the roastiness.

That was 12 hours ago and I still cant sleep

[Anonymous No.13324705]

>>13324647
About to run out of coffee so I picked up some more bricks to try. Be interesting to see what the difference is between these two. On my notable thing is the regular one just says 100% coffee while the "gourmet" says 100% arabica.
>>13324689
Enjoy your trip
https://youtu.be/DDcQoUHVukw

[Anonymous No.13324717]

>>13324647
Breville is trash

[Anonymous No.13324736]

>>13324647
>>13324717
By the way. I didn't choose the pictured espresso maker cause I thought it was good. I picked it purely for aesthetic reasons.

[Anonymous No.13324745]

>>13324689
Yeah. You're stupid as fuck. You might not be sleeping until tomorrow night.

[Anonymous No.13324751]

>>13324745
And your point is?

[Anonymous No.13324772]

>>13324751
that much coffee is unhealthy for your body. I don't care if you die from dumb shit like that, but someone might. Think of them.

[Anonymous No.13324776]

>>13324772
I'm feeling sleepy, kiss me goodnight since you're worked up about it

[Anonymous No.13325183]

So i want to make 300ml of coffee, but my aeropress only holds 250ml of water. So what do i do? Should i just brew stronger and dilute with the last 50ml? So instead of brewing 19g coffee to 250g water brew 23g coffee to 250g water and then dilute with the last 50g water?

[Anonymous No.13325272]

What is the best coffee bread/snack?
Asking for myself and a friend.

[Anonymous No.13325431]

>>13324689
>drinks the caffeine equivalent of 3 cups of filter coffee
>still awake 12 hours later
Either you have no tolerance or it's placebo.

[Anonymous No.13325434]

>>13324772
>that much coffee is unhealthy

why

[Anonymous No.13325437]

>>13325183
50ml of s o y milk

[Anonymous No.13325442]

>>13325272
Are you talking about pairing? I need more information. Are you doing hot or cold? Black or cream? Filter or pressed? Do you want your treat to contain coffee? Sweet or savory?

[Anonymous No.13325488]

>>13325437
I don't like milk in my coffee

[Anonymous No.13326207]

>>13324647
I have this exact model of machine in the OP and I think it makes just ok espresso. Any suggestions on something else? Entirely possible its my skill but if this thing is only capable of mud-water then I'll try something else

[Anonymous No.13326313]

>>13324736
that machine looks like trash. all machine with built in grinders are trash. get an ounce of taste

[Anonymous No.13326329]

>>13324647
Im hungry bring me sausage

[Anonymous No.13326344]

>>13326329
Sosig on its wayyy ;)

[Anonymous No.13326353]

>>13326344
Chekd

[Anonymous No.13326380]

>>13326313
Your a towel.

[Anonymous No.13326410]

>>13325272
Columbian breads are dank. Really any coffee shop bread works.

[Anonymous No.13326425]

>>13324647
Pulled a shot of Passenger's Kenya Karagoto this morning. Great stuff, heavy on the berry. Next bag's gonna be from Heart, though, need to check out how their roasts are on the new roaster.

>>13326207
What's your budget? Imo that machine is good enough you should keep using it until you can save up for a DE1 and a solid grinder, more in-between steps will just waste money. You could replace just the grinder first and make the built in one vestigial for a more immediate upgrade.

That machine should be at least fairly competent though unless it's a particularly difficult to work with coffee, so I would work on your puck prep before upgrading anything. An easy thing to try is stirring with a needle to distribute before tamping.

>>13324717
Meh, Breville can be alright, the BDB has a better grouphead than 99% of home machines. At least it's actively PID heated to the correct temperature instead of designed as a heatsink to work around the limitations of over half a century ago. The lower model ones not so much though, and especially not built in grinders.

>>13325183
The trouble with dilution is that the lower brewing ratio is less effective at extracting the coffee. You can grind finer and stir more to help counteract this, but because the aeropress has a percolation (water is pushed or pulled through coffee) stage, you risk getting more astringency from channeling. There's not really an easy answer to do it without compromising quality, but you can always try and see if the hit is worth the trade to you. If you try it (and do try it before just buying other shit) and it's not up to your standards, check out the Clever.

[Anonymous No.13326954]

>>13326425
Thanks for the advice on brewing ratio. I think I'll stick with my 19:250 ratio, and just suffer through slightly smaller cups of coffee. Or just get smaller coffee cups.

[Anonymous No.13327647]

new grinder just came in
couldn't wait to try it out

[Anonymous No.13327681]

Just found out my small town has a local roaster that gets beans from Kenya other places. Delicious stuff, smells phenomenal.
Who else /french press/ here?

[Anonymous No.13327682]

>>13325437
you can say soy in ck

[Anonymous No.13328440]

Just got these in the mail

[Anonymous No.13328447]

Recommendations for best coffee for the price? I usually grab pic related at Costco, but always good to know what others are into

[Anonymous No.13328465]

>>13328447
i get whatever at costco too usually
all the yuppy cafe places near me sell visibly not fresh beans """"roasted today""""" for at least double the price
such a fucking scam

[Anonymous No.13328473]

just picked this up

[Anonymous No.13328478]

>>13328465
You’re supposed to let coffee degas for at least a day or two after roasting.

[Anonymous No.13328485]

>>13328478
good thing said coffee is actually a few weeks old at best

[Anonymous No.13328496]

>>13328485
If your local coffee shop is doing that, they’re fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.13328508]

>>13328496
that's why i buy coffee at costco

[Anonymous No.13328526]

>>13328508
Fair enough then.

[Anonymous No.13328671]

>>13328465
Used to work at Starbucks for supplemental income, and though the work was terrible the free bags of coffee weekly were nice

[Anonymous No.13329714]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13330048]

>>13327647
>Baratza
Good taste anon

[Anonymous No.13330759]

>>13326425
Pic related is my grinder, it was a wedding gift but at least the person did indeed get me a conical grinder. When I grind and do a single origin pour over I get really good coffee so I don't think its my beans or grinder at fault (unless you think this one sucks for some reason). Still fiddling with my espresso process but I'm seriously looking at a DE1 now

[Anonymous No.13331043]

i didn't like lattes until i had a coconut milk latte

[Anonymous No.13331283]

>>13324736
it looks like a children's toy lmao

[Anonymous No.13331944]

>>13325272
Baklava.

[Anonymous No.13331961]

>>13330759
>unless you think my $30 "burr grinder" sucks for some reason
>for some reason

You're retarded. That piece of junk barely qualifies as a spice grinder.
Extraction is 100% grind consistency. You are not going to get consistency with that piece of junk.

[Anonymous No.13331973]

>>13326425
>>>13324717
>Meh, Breville can be alright, the BDB has a better grouphead than 99% of home machines.

100% of consumer machines are plastic trash. The BDB is no different. It's irrepairable and is guaranteed to break one month after the warranty period ends because Breville makes disposable trash. If you have $1200 to drop on a BDB then you are better off spending $300 for a proper HX machine.

[Anonymous No.13332049]

anyone have a decent poor-man's ""espresso"" recipe for the aeropess"? i know it's not the real thing but i just got a standalone milk steamer and i'm trying to make something drinkable with it. a bit to broke to shell out for the flair model i want right now

[Anonymous No.13332077]

Do you think it's worth it?

[Anonymous No.13332307]

>>13330759
That grinder is nowhere near good enough for espresso. You're looking at something like a Niche Zero at minimum, and IMO those are actually pretty lacking since conical burrs don't extract nearly as well as unimodal flats.

>>13331973
The Breville still makes better espresso than any e61 machine. The e61 is a trash design, and the entire HX concept is 100% obsolete ever since the PID was invented. It will break sooner, but at least it's far a better machine while it's working.

>>13332077
No. Onyx is trash at roasting. Get the same coffee in a 5oz bag from Passenger who will roast it far better, and charge you half as much since it's a smaller bag. It's a SUPER interesting coffee, but it's not one you're going to want a lot of. It's like someone liquified froot loops. Whole loop, not just the froot, the grain too.

[Anonymous No.13332337]

>>13332307
>The Breville still makes better espresso than any e61 machine. The e61 is a trash design, and the entire HX concept is 100% obsolete ever since the PID was invented. It will break sooner, but at least it's far a better machine while it's working.

you're literally retarded.

[Anonymous No.13332357]

>>13332337
You're retarded if you think a group that isn't 100% temperature stable is in any way acceptable in the computer era.

The Decent does it with computer controls, virtually all good commercial machines use saturated groups, some nice home machines like single group GS3s and similar use saturated groups, and even the fucking Breville manages it with a PID at the group. It's unacceptable to still be making machines that require user intervention for thermal stability (cooling flushes for HX e61 and warming flushes for DB e61) when the problem has already been completely solved by better groups.

[Anonymous No.13332393]

>>13328447
Mayorga is pretty good. I also like their Kirkland signature brand Columbian supremo

[Anonymous No.13332394]

>>13332357
We're not talking bout the decent you mong, we're talking about that plastic piece of shit the BDB

[Anonymous No.13332433]

>>13332307
>Onyx is trash at roasting
wait didn't their roaster win some national championship?

[Anonymous No.13332553]

>>13332394
Did you read my whole post? The Breville manages temperature stability with a pid in the group. If a "plastic piece of shit" can implement a grouphead heating system, then any machine lacking one is worse than a piece of shit. The e61 and the HX system made sense 60 years ago when computer control was not an option. We have computers that can keep temperature better now to deliver water how you actually want it perfectly every time, and groups that keep that water at temperature instead of serving as a heatsink to work with an old fashion contrivance to get around not having PIDs. Nowadays you're either a lazy manipulative company if you're still selling e61s or a fucking idiot if you buy one.

>>13332433
Ehhhhhh, yes, BUT a competition roast ≠ a production roast. It's not that they don't have technically skilled people, it's that they're rather inconsistent and roast to an overly dark style the overwhelming majority of the time. Passenger is far safer to order from and expect you'll get something well executed. Plus you can order a 5oz bag of the Eugenoids, you really don't want 12oz of it. It's extremely interesting and I loved trying it, but it's almost hard to drink. Straight up sickeningly sweet.

[Anonymous No.13332632]

Until my shop opens I'm getting spoiled on the home filter setup. Two Cirque geshas and some gget honduras in rotation right now.

[Anonymous No.13332706]

what is the least coffee tasting coffee (that still tastes good)?

[Anonymous No.13332802]

>>13332706
Most any light single origin won't taste very "coffee". I especially like a good Kenya, they can have this pretty intense cranberry note to them. Try out one from Passenger or Heart if you're in the US (try Wendelboe, Coffee Collective, or Gardelli in EU), I feel they tend to do a really good job at roasting Kenyan coffees.

[Anonymous No.13332925]

>>13332553
it only needs "a group pid because the machines internals uses SS and plastic rather than real thermally stable material like a gigangtic piece of brass.

[Anonymous No.13332976]

How do I deal with co-workers who call me a caffeine addict just because I need a cup of coffee in the morning to feel normal?

[Anonymous No.13333176]

>accidentally bought a big bag of espresso beans for my drip coffee maker

[Anonymous No.13333200]

>>13332925
Those "gigantic piece of brass" machines are not sufficiently thermally stable. The e61 requires flushes to heat or cool (depending on if it's a DB or HX machine). A PID keeps you exactly where it should be down to the degree. Anything less is fully unacceptable.

[Anonymous No.13333204]

>>13332976
>I need a cup of coffee in the morning to feel normal
oh shut up you obnoxious mongoloid

[Anonymous No.13333209]

are you stupid lmao you fucker just use them. most high level shops don't even make a distinction between espresso and filter coffee beans.

[Anonymous No.13333251]

is it smart to buy loads of beans, and freeze them?

[Anonymous No.13333266]

>>13333209
espresso beans are extra roasted you mong. a lot more bitter.

[Anonymous No.13333290]

>>13333200
Why do you insist that HX machines can't have PIDs? Modern HX (save barebone entry level models) will come with a PID. Anyone who would pick a plasticky piece of crap like the BDB over something nice and well made like the Izzo Vivi (which only costs $200 more) is retarded.

[Anonymous No.13333296]

is a Moccamaster actually better than other drop machines?

[Anonymous No.13333357]

>>13333176
Grind the beans at a grocery store.

[Anonymous No.13333373]

>>13333357
I have a ginder, the mistake was not that I bought beans, the mistake was that I usually buy mild arabica beans from colombia, and I bought extra dark roast espresso beans this time.

[Anonymous No.13333398]

why are coffee grinders so overpriced?

[Anonymous No.13333415]

>>13333266
not really. that's for the grocery store tier coffee where 'espresso' is a marketing term. espresso is a prepartion method. any decent shop will use good quality nuanced beans (with both caramal, chocolate and floral hints) for their espresso. and those same beans will work just as well for pour over or drip, it's all about the preparation method (recipe). so unless you bought shit tier beans, you have nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.13333420]

>>13333415
>not really. that's for the grocery store tier coffee where 'espresso' is a marketing term. espresso is a prepartion method.
for espresso, dark roast is always used, never mild beans

[Anonymous No.13333440]

>>13333290
PIDs do not reflect exact brew temperature on an HX machine, and water flushes are still necessary to get the grouphead to the correct temperature before starting your shot. Which is fucking absurd when it's a solved problem.

BBD solved it.
Decent solved it.
GS3 solved it.
LMLM solved it.
Synesso solved it.
Slayer solved it.
I could go on for another dozen machines or more that solved it.

The e61 is just a bad design that needs to go away forever. You don't need a dedicated group heater either, saturated groups work too.

[Anonymous No.13333483]

Are ceramic burr grinder prone to "burning" the beans? I only have a hand grinder and doing a 1:12 ratio takes fucking forever. How bad would it be for me to attach a drill to the grinder?

[Anonymous No.13333484]

>>13333440
Saturated groups is a common feature of HX machines like the Vivi Pro

[Anonymous No.13333494]

>>13333420
Stop buying 9 month old grocery store “espresso” beans faggot.

[Anonymous No.13333495]

>>13333494
what does this have to do with roast you mong?

[Anonymous No.13333499]

>>13332307
Is the Eugenoides anything like the Liberica? Like Jackfruit sweetness?

I might pull the trigger. Currently going through pic related rn. I use the 4-6 method with a 205F water

[Anonymous No.13333521]

>>13333499
To add Tetsu’s method is pretty good if you want a consistent cup versus trying to dial in your grind to so Hoffman’s or Rao’s or Perger’s method.

Tetsu goes fairly coarse, aggressive pour with letting water drain as much as possible between pours. And temps are generally cooler compared to most methods (Fun to play with when you get a variable kettle + super accurate scale, thank god for cyber monday)

[Anonymous No.13333529]

>>13333484
No it's not. A saturated group means the boiler coming out around the group to keep it at exactly boiler temperature. It's completely impossible with the e61. And furthermore impossible with any HX because it requires a brew boiler by definition.

>>13333499
I've never had the chance to try Liberica, so I can't say for certain. But it's very much unlike any arabica. It's actually got a bit of the grain background you get with some specialty robusta, but with this huge fruit foreground.

[Anonymous No.13333561]

>>13333529
Bruh... add me on instagram. I need coffee friends. My autismo can only get so high

[Anonymous No.13333565]

>>13333251
>>13333251
>>13333251
>>13333251
>>13333251
anyone???

[Anonymous No.13333568]

>>13333565
Vac seal and freeze. If you just bag and freeze, you’ll get freezer burn on the beans

[Anonymous No.13333581]

i have a nespresso mini which is pretty eh for coffee, easy to use but i'd love to experiment with more beans

what's a relatively cheap espresso maker for an upgrade

[Anonymous No.13333614]

>>13333561
Sure, what's the name? I'm awasteofcoffee on there.

>>13333568
Vac sealing is definitely better, but you can get away with freezing without it if you do it right. I used to just use mason jars with one dose each so I could take it out and grind and have nothing to put back before I got my vac sealer. What you really don't want to do is move the coffee back and forth or open coffee that's going back in since condensation will ruin it fast.

[Anonymous No.13333635]

>>13333614
Ill add ya

[Anonymous No.13333649]

>>13333614
Very true. I mostly use the atmos most of the time since I burn through bags fairly fast

[Anonymous No.13333670]

is there no option other than paper, cloth or stainless steel filters?
paper is waste and a hassle if you run out and forget to buy more.
cloth is hard to find and has its own down sides (soaks up old shit, needs very good cleaning)

why can't they make a filter from porcelain?

[Anonymous No.13333728]

>>13333670
They do have porous ceramic filters like the Kyuemon Gamma and porcelain filters like the Walkure and glass like the RS-16.

[Anonymous No.13333735]

>>13333728
>glass like the RS-16
can't find whatever this is

[Anonymous No.13333742]

>>13333735
This ridiculous thing: https://coffee-consulate.com/en/produkt/rs-16-intense-extraction-glassfilter/

[Anonymous No.13333768]

>>13333565
>>13333568
Don't listen to these retards, do not freeze your fucking coffee. Just buy it as you need it and use it while it's fresh.

[Anonymous No.13333777]

>>13333742
why is it so fucking expensive? are they really the only ones selling glass with a bunch of holes?

[Anonymous No.13333994]

>>13333398
Cause coffee is like cars, but gayer.

[Anonymous No.13334027]

>>13333398
>he wants a plastic grinder made in China they can add some extra plastic shavings in his coffee.

Just get something with stainless steel burrs that last forever and forget about getting plastic in your coffee

[Anonymous No.13334038]

>>13334027
>>he wants a plastic grinder made in China they can add some extra plastic shavings in his coffee.
last time I checked stainless steel is dirt cheap no matter where you get it

[Anonymous No.13334094]

>>13324647
I'm really starting to get into Turkish coffee.
I love me a regular espresso shot or a cortado but there's something elegant yet simple about a well done Turkish coffee

[Anonymous No.13334113]

>>13333495
>hurr espresso is always dark roast durr

Reread >>13333415
idiot

[Anonymous No.13335848]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13336551]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13336577]

How are cheap geshas compared to expensive ones? my local roaster sells some for absurd prices, usually $50-80 for an 8oz package. i'm seeing some around the $30 range online. Is there really that much difference in the varietal to justify such a wide price range? never tried a gesha btw

[Anonymous No.13337133]

>>13324689
>Coffee shop
Do they serve their "brown" with a ladle?

[Anonymous No.13337175]

>>13333565
No.
Also, why are you buying coffee in bulk anon?

[Anonymous No.13337189]

>>13337175
>No.
you got a reason / source for this?

[Anonymous No.13337226]

Why do the instructions on the bag say to mix one heaping scoop with 6 ounce of water but a cup is 8 ounces? Am I supposed to add 16 scoops for a pot of coffee?

[Anonymous No.13337244]

>>13337189
Full Time barista in charge of coffee standards at my location who visits our roaster regularly.
It'll just mess with the consistency of the coffee and will give you an inconsistent grind in the same way stale beans get softer and won't grind the same as if fresh.
This is before we even get to the fact that gasses are constantly escaping your coffee beans regardless of wheather or not you froze them.
Just get yourself an air tight container to store your beans in and for the love of all God don't grind them first, they'll just go stale faster.
I know it sucks because some coffee is only in season for a few months of the year, I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt and assuming that's why you want to freeze it and not that you're buying in bulk.

[Anonymous No.13337268]

>>13333768
>>13337244
you're a dumb faggot. george howell is a s++ tier roaster and he freezes all his beans. it's perfectly fine for home use, if not recommended. of course at a coffee shop it's pointless to do.

[Anonymous No.13337429]

>>13324705
Got a chance to brew the regular Pilon. It doesn't say anywhere online or the package, but judging by the fact it doesn't mention being pure arabica, the "gourmet" version mentioning being pure arabica, and it smelling like there is robusta in there, I'm going to assume it's a mix of the two. It tastes pretty good. I think its better than the espresso robusta mix that I got at Aldi. Its roasted a little darker I think than cafe llave, but it isn't burnt like Bustelo. Not sure what the arabica/robusta ratio is, but it tastes better than Lavazza Classico and is closer to Lavazza forte, but not as strong. Overall I like it. It's on the more bolder flavor side compared to llave, but llave doesn't have that bitter robusta after taste.
>>13333373
Use it as an excuse to mess with flavoring your coffee or have cubanos.

[Anonymous No.13337801]

i don't drink coffee often but i love the smell
i was considering getting this because i like the actor a lot
has anyone had this? is it a good coffee

[Anonymous No.13337954]

>>13337268
>george howell
Literally fucking who? Literally any professional taster will tell you that freezing them fucks them up. Eat shit you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.13338162]

I bought a variety pack of coco and I'm going to mix the Turtles flavoured hot coco into my coffee today :3

[Anonymous No.13338455]

>>13337954
i've read several blind studies that say otherwise vs your anecdotal evidence
https://www.home-barista.com/store-coffee-in-freezer.html

[Anonymous No.13338674]

>>13333266
so wrong. go talk to a barista if you don't understand.

[Anonymous No.13338678]

>>13333420
this anon that has never worked in coffee.

[Anonymous No.13338781]

>>13338455
You’re fuckin retarded

[Anonymous No.13338809]

>>13338162
unironically kill yourself. Not only a retarded cumbrain shitting up thread quality but a fetish one at that, and a garbage fetish at that

[Anonymous No.13338821]

>Make cold brew before
>It's good
>Year passes
>Start making it again, same beans, same process (albeit different grinder)
>Sour and astringent regardless of blooming it
Okay what's happening.

Also here's some autistic syrup I made while I got distracted during cooking tacos, Off the top of my head brown sugar, cloves, cinnamon, nutmeg, dried smoked chilis, ginger, a little vanilla and allspice; recipe and measurements pulled out of my ass but I probably could've made way more syrup given the quantity of spices used.

[Anonymous No.13338822]

>>13324689
honestly anon thats not that much caffeine, you must not drink a lot of coffee.

an americano is just espresso and hot water, so a 7 shot americano. The average shot of espresso has only 63mg of caffiene in it. You basically ordered a drink with just under 500mg of caffeine. I was drinking that much in 6th grade. Most shitty starbucks sugar bombs have caffeine in that range and those are meant for women and children. Go back to drinking your McCafe fucking bullshit or Drunkin Donuts or whatever you go, weak pleb

brb gotta do my 5th caffiene enema of the day

[Anonymous No.13338828]

Regarding the espresso argument, I'm 99% sure espresso beans refer to the distribution of arabica vs robusto, not the roasting itself.
>>13338678
>I made a barely passable cappucino at mcdonalds please give me attention

[Anonymous No.13338840]

>>13338828
>I made a barely passable cappucino at mcdonalds please give me attention
fwiw I'm not saying the guy you quoted was right, you just sound like a complete twat

[Anonymous No.13338985]

>>13338828
>espresso beans
This is not a real term. There is no such thing as an espresso bean. It's just marketing lingo for dumb retards, like you.

[Anonymous No.13338992]

>>13338985
>certain mixtures of beans can't be preferable for espresso
They're also seeds if we're going to be pedantic. Also I actually am marketing and I fucking wish that was what I actually did, the field was so overly stressful I ended up going back to school, the pay isn't worth zero freetime and constant stress

[Anonymous No.13339479]

>>13338828
roasters have websites just look at what they say if you don't believe it. Espresso is a brewing method it has nothing to do with a particular coffee.

[Anonymous No.13340364]

>>13339479
It's a blend/roast level of coffee considered good for espresso, I realize you're going through your "le gamer in society everything is a lie and deception and out to get me" phase but it's a little less than random given stakeholders actually sort of give a shit. Is it worth it? I don't know, but burden of proof isn't on me to prove a negative.

You can go ahead and link these sources yourself instead of asking me to do your own research

[Anonymous No.13340404]

>>13338992
>>13340364
Why do these stupid fucking retards have to shit up our perfectly good coffee thread? You have no idea what the fuck you are even talking about. Go make another eceleb or fast food thread and leave us alone.

[Anonymous No.13340429]

>>13340404
>I'm unable to comprehend a simple concept or defend my claims so let me just throw an autistic tantrum
I'm not the one chimping out, blame yourself for shitting up the thread. Somehow in your tardrage-fueled brain "these are the beans you should probably use for espresso" means "these are from an espresso plant"

Lastly you clearly think this thread is your personal circlejerk so how about considering reddit instead

[Anonymous No.13340460]

>>13340429
There is no such thing as "beans that you should use for espresso", you fucking ignorant cunt, which is why everyone here is calling you a retard. You're acting like a marketing buzzword is an actual thing and you're making a strawman about some "espresso plant" that nobody has said anything about. Remove yourself from this thread and then kill yourself as soon as possible, you quintuple-nigger.

[Anonymous No.13340465]

>>13340429
I'm guessing that you're the same faggot who was shitposting about the V60 being "the most overrated coffee appliance" in the last thread because you're just as incredibly ignorant as he was. I genuinely feel bad for you. It must be hard going through life and having everyone hate you because of your retarded ignorant rambling.

[Anonymous No.13340480]

>>13340460
>>13340465
>mom look I'm being edgy on 4chan again do I fit in
Imagine thinking all beans are equally the same for espresso and calling anyone else stupid, I get you're an uneducated moron and apparently resorting to samefagging now, but these things called adjectives exist, these are words that exist as a way to describe things. I hope this helps, feel free to keep trying to take the highroad while behaving like a literal child

[Anonymous No.13340493]

>>13340480
>>13340465
>>13340460
Also you're not an enlightened genius for knowing buzzwords are a thing

[Anonymous No.13341331]

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[Anonymous No.13341659]

>>13340480
>Imagine thinking all beans are equally the same for espresso
Not him, but no one said that. It's just that "espresso beans" are a marketing buzzword. beans from quality shops are usually suitable for both espresso and filter. espresso roasts are just specifically roasted to please the most normies and for retards who would otherwise buy months old beans that can't into espresso

[Anonymous No.13342213]

>>13340480
>Imagine thinking all beans are equally the same for espresso
This single phrase right here just perfectly highlights how stupid you are. You can't even find the right words to describe what you're trying to argue about. Also, kind of funny that you
>lol samefagging lmao BTFO
me when I posted twice in a row, not even attempting to appear as two separate posters, and then immediately do it yourself. Not surprising to see this level of retardation from someone like you though.

[Anonymous No.13342548]

>>13338821
Brew time maybe? I was doing 20 hours at room temp but it started tasting off once the weather warmed up. Switched to 12 hours instead and it's been fine. I think the size and consistency of grind could influence it too.

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[Anonymous No.13344387]

>>13324647
is it normal to feel sleepy after drinking coffee?

[Anonymous No.13344621]

>>13344387
Sometimes. If that happens you should just take a nap.

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[Anonymous No.13345751]

should I spend all my allowance on a Lido grinder?
I mainly make cold brew

[Anonymous No.13346622]

>>13345751
if you make cold brew you can probably get away with having the shop you buy it from grind it or a less expensive grinder. Since you'll be grinding coarse particle consistency will never be super exact even using an EK and cold brew is probably the most forgiving extraction you can do.

[Anonymous No.13347473]

>>13345751
Grind at the store.