Preheating the oven is a SCAM

[Anonymous No.13305355]

When did you first realize this simple truth?

Especially for frozen food. Sure, some things matter like tortilla pizza you need that oven and pan as hot as they will get for it not to be soggy city but for many cases and certainly heating up all frozen foods it absolutely doesn't matter and you can just add a few minutes to the cooking timer.

Also, are there people here so autistic you refuse to use a timer when heating up your tendies or such and simply have zen mastered knowing exactly when they will be ready?

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[Anonymous No.13305366]

>>13305355
What's it like to never have eaten a crispy baked crust?

[Anonymous No.13305378]

Anon have you baked anything in your miserable sexless life?
>MUH frozen food
Damn what a retarded sad life you live. After years of idiotically preheating your oven to heat up your garbage frozen shit you only now realize it's not necessary, what a retard. You should have asked yourself 'why is there a need for preheating the oven and when should I do it' instead of just mindlessly following internet recipes

[Anonymous No.13305386]

>>13305366
I just bought dough conditioner. It's supposed to help with that. I believe it's like gluten and enzymes.

>>13305378
Yeah I bake regularly for my family from scratch. I just also eat frozen food too.

[Anonymous No.13305422]

>>13305355
Hey OP, did you come up with similar conclusions regarding boiling water?

[Anonymous No.13305443]

>>13305422
I guess I've always put pasta into boiling water out of habit even though there's no need. I mean I cook potatoes in cold water. I don't think it matters for most applications.

[Anonymous No.13305448]

>>13305422
OP BTFO!

[Anonymous No.13305463]

preheating means room temperature, so you don't put cold into cold

[Anonymous No.13305467]

OP, I suspect your cooking lacks consistency, to say the least.

[Anonymous No.13305477]

>>13305467
Go fuck yourself buddy. My baking is great.

[Anonymous No.13305506]

>values duration reliability
>disregard heat reliability

[Anonymous No.13305879]

>>13305506
wat

[Anonymous No.13305927]

>>13305355
It matters when actually baking things lije breads and cakes that the elements aren't pumping out heat when you put it in trying to get up to temperature. Otherwise things may not rise and cook correctly.

You're right if all you do is heat up chicken tenders, tater tots and other kid's food it really doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.13305934]

>>13305927
Tendies are for adults too, anon. Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.13305945]

I worked in a kitchen for about a year and learned this little tidbit; when you're preheating the oven is running hotter to reach that temperature. So your cook time gets messed up when you try to cook without preheating. Accidents are just not accidental at that point. Get yo shit together boi.

[Anonymous No.13305954]

>>13305945
>a year

I've been cooking my whole life.

Just add a few minutes to the cooking time if you don't preheat.

[Anonymous No.13305983]

>>13305355
You're wrong and your taste buds are shot to shit / your ability to discern texture is terrible / you have very low standards. Pick one; probably pick all three.

[Anonymous No.13306074]

>>13305954
That anon is right. If you're cooking things that matter or are temperature sensitive it really does matter. All you're illustrating is that you're a shitty cook who only makes basic things.

[Anonymous No.13306090]

>>13305355
where did you get this pic of me with my wife's boyfriend and their son?

[Anonymous No.13306109]

I don't see the point in preheating the oven for basic bitch food like ready meals or frozen pizza. Just add like 5-10 minutes to the cooking time.

[Anonymous No.13306124]

>>13306109
Yeah when it's just frozen crap that's going to taste like shit anyways it doesn't really make a difference.

[Anonymous No.13306135]

>>13306109
>5-10

not even its like 3-4 minutes extra

[Anonymous No.13306145]

>>13306135
Oligarch tier oven. Mine was literally the cheapest oven at the store.

[Anonymous No.13306205]

>>13305477
>>13305386
I'll bite, what do you bake other than shitty frozen pizzas you mong? How often, too?
>inb4 literal lies

>>13306109
Almost no one is even arguing about this. Only retards consume that shit so it's meant to be relatively fool proof. Everyone's talking about real cooking and baking.

[Anonymous No.13306217]

>>13306205
Pies, cakes cookies. A couple times a month. I made nearly the entire Thanksgiving dinner as well.

I made chocolate cupcakes last month. And a pie and a cake for Thanksgiving. I also made rolls.

[Anonymous No.13306255]

>>13306217
And you don't preheat the oven? I'd wager at least half of your attempts turn out 4/10 and a fourth fail.
>couple times a month
Nevermind, maybe you were just born with 8 LUK and 3 int. I bake bread alone 3 times a month and I can't imagine being such a tard. Preheating my shitty oven takes less time and effort than playing the guessing game for 5-10+ minutes depending on the dish

[Anonymous No.13306268]

>>13306217
>pies from scratch without preheating
this is how I know your food is shit. the fat pockets in any decent crust will melt before any sort of flakiness is able to develop in a non-preheated oven.

[Anonymous No.13306274]

reminder: if a child is the same sex as a same sex couple there is a 40% chance they will be molested

[Anonymous No.13306283]

>>13306255
Not unless I remember to ahead of time. Baked goods ur aiming for an internal temp of 200-210F anyways.

>>13306268
im just saying there's no need

>the fat pockets in any decent crust will melt before any sort of flakiness is able to develop in a non-preheated oven.

this is mom science

[Anonymous No.13306332]

>>13305422
Idk if this is a joke but I always just put potatoes and pasta into cold water. Alton brown even confirmed this was best for pasta.

[Anonymous No.13306363]

>>13306283
>this is your brain on the gay
so how do you make your crust then idiot? why not just melt the butter/shortening/whatever for every crust if this is somehow mom science? oh yeah, because your crust comes out like crumbly, shitty, hardtack. creaming sugar and butter uses similar logic so essentially you're saying that's useless too.

[Anonymous No.13306369]

What's the difference between waiting a few minutes before putting food in the oven and putting it in a few minutes longer?

[Anonymous No.13306381]

>>13306369
some extremely mad anons

>>13306363
blend cubed cold butter, flour, sugar, salt in a bowl, make into a disk, fold the disk a few times, chill, then blind bake

[Anonymous No.13306391]

>>13306381
so do you not know why you're blending cold butter then dumbass?

[Anonymous No.13306406]

>>13306391
if the crust is baked from being chilled the oven warming for a few minutes won't make a difference.

[Anonymous No.13306427]

>>13306369
consider the egg
if you put an egg in water that's already boiling the shell will crack due to the rapid expansion of the liquid inside the egg. It has to be brought up to temperature slowly

now consider the egg once again
if you crack the egg into a cold pan and bring it up slowly it will stick to the pan, but if you drop it into a hot pan it will not stick to the bottom because of the leidenfrost effect preventing the proteins from making contact with the metal of the pan

basically, as cringy as it is when people say "cooking is science", because it very much is not. having a somewhat better than average knowledge of material physics definitely makes your life in the kitchen easier

[Anonymous No.13306456]

>>13306406
How will it not make a difference? If a minute of overhandling can melt the butter it how can an oven at 100-200 degrees for multiple minutes not negatively affect the structure, regardless of being chilled, especially if it takes as long to fully heat up your oven as you say? You've just been eating shitty pies your entire life my dude. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.13306462]

>>13306427
I get all that, I'm saying that for frozen food where that shit actually doesn't matter, why does OP think he's beating the system by putting his food in before preheating and setting the timer longer, when in all likelihood the total time is exactly the same either way

[Anonymous No.13306463]

>>13306456
Because the butter is already chilled and incorporated with the flour. Stop relying on mom science and wasting valuable time.

[Anonymous No.13306467]

Pre heating the oven is for people that actually cook and bake, not for re heating your frozen tendies you fucking cretin

[Anonymous No.13306469]

>>13306332
>Alton Brown

[Anonymous No.13306482]

>>13306463
>butter is impervious to heat as long as it's cold
the aids must've got to your brain

[Anonymous No.13306496]

>>13306283
you're a moron if you think basic shit that people learn in any culinary school/textbook and upheld by most (if not all) professionals is somehow a lie. anything with a more fragile structure than some shitty soccer mom dump cookie recipe will 100% suffer in some way and even then simple shit like that will still benefit from preheating. there is no drawback to preheating other than
your pea brain having to "remember". time saved is bordering on placebo unless your oven takes 30 minutes to heat up and even then your dough/batter will probably be sitting at room temp for at least 5 min deteriorating before actually getting to baking temp. im sorry alzheimers, downs, and homosexuality made you this way

[Anonymous No.13306505]

>>13306496
Oh no butter surely cannot survive 4 minutes at a slightly lower temperature.

[Anonymous No.13306510]

>>13306505
yes that is the point

[Anonymous No.13306517]

>>13306510
prove it

[Anonymous No.13306546]

>>13306517
anon, they can't

they just want you to waste precious time in your kitchen that you could spend being outside hiking and enjoying nature

[Anonymous No.13306562]

>>13306517
>>13306546
cringe and 0/10

[Anonymous No.13306566]

>>13306562
>not proofs/10

[Anonymous No.13306641]

>>13306469
taking advice from anti-gay Christian bigots is rarely a good idea

[Anonymous No.13306653]

>>13305355
This whole thread sounds like the "saffron is all fake" troll guy trying out more bait.

[Anonymous No.13306657]

>>13305355
Preheating is ONLY a scam for frozen foods
Try and bake a fucking loaf of bread without the oven being hot enough, the crust will be twice as thick and the inside will be awful

[Anonymous No.13306673]

>>13306657
He already claims he makes real baked goods as well, it's obvious trolling.

[Anonymous No.13306683]

>>13305355
What makes u think any would care about a faggots opinion u fucking degenrate.

[Anonymous No.13306713]

>>13306641
He quit the retarded southern baptists because he didn't agree with their homophobic hate.

[Anonymous No.13306737]

>>13306713
oh so he only used to believe gays were second class citizens and could be willfully mistreated

that's comforting

[Anonymous No.13306860]

bump

[Anonymous No.13306952]

>>13306737
More likely he was never personally homophobic, but leaving a religion that you've been raised in since a child is quite hard because all your life the lies have been repeated over and over. It's a better testament of his sense of morality that he would turn his back on the god and religion he was taught to believe because he came to terms with how they treat gay people.

[Anonymous No.13307040]

>>13306952
>sure I voted for the nazi party

>and gave them money, too

>but I don't have anything against Jewish people

He doesn't give a fuck about gay people being treated well he just realized he was looking bad in the public eye for being associated with them still.