Vegetarianism (not veganism)

[Anonymous No.13295136]

Anyone just gradually find meat less and less appealing? I made myself a nice, USDA prime steak yesterday. First meat in 2 weeks. Looked forward to it, got some nice wine, made haricots verts and sweet potato mash on the side. And halfway through it I just realized... this is fucking gross, I can't do this anymore. It's in a ziploc bag in the fridge. When I was a kid I loved meat. Now, as an adult approaching middle age who lives for sport and the outdoors, I only eat it because obsessing over protein is a pain in the ass otherwise.

Why doesn't /ck/ talk about the rational middle ground: vegetarianism? Why does it have to be about ideology or whatever? Can we just admit meat isn't good?

[Anonymous No.13295167]

[Anonymous No.13295171]

>>13295167
I consider it morally wrong to subject myself to eating something that tastes bad. Is that good enough for your "morals"?

[Anonymous No.13295176]

>>13295171
Well you're a LARPing retard so your opinion is automagically discarded

[Anonymous No.13295179]

>Can we just admit meat isn't good?
No. Meat and fish are the best foods there is.

If you don't feel like eating it, don't eat it.
You'll crave it soon enough.

[Anonymous No.13295180]

>>13295179
Forgot to mention that I'm fat retarted

[Anonymous No.13295186]

>>13295176
Tastes change as you get older. Kind of like how little kids will gladly eat disgusting junk food like those vending machine pies but at a certain point in your life they become revolting.

Same goes for meat. Some people never grow up though. Enjoy LARPing as a crow scavenging roadkill on the side of the highway. So edgy and metal dooood.

I'm going to go choke down some whey protein now.

[Anonymous No.13295222]

>>13295136
Hey OP,
i was in the same position 15 years ago. Vegeterian because i just dont want be a part of the brutaly massslaughtering. The animals are not raised and hold the way they deserved.
Saw some documentations about this made my decission even easier.
I hate Eggs (disgusting) and i didnt need honey becaus...sweet.
Every type of seafood was ok for me; i fucking love this shit.
But i´ve craved every single day something i could not named.
After 2,5 Years i started to go full frontal...Vegan! And 8 weeks later i collapsed and was brought to the ER.
My Doc said, that nearly anything blood needed to be called blood was missing in mine.

Long story short, nowaday i am a very picke eater when it comes to Meat. Luckily i life in an small town with a lot of local Producers.
These Animals have a good,happy life with only one bad Day. And you know what?
This is totaly ok for me.
Paying nearly the 4th. of the price you have to pay for some cheap shit meat. But then only once every two weeks or so a realy good piece of meat.

PS:
Sorry for my bad english. As you can guess, english is not my native language.

[Anonymous No.13295239]

I find steak tartare tasteless. Veal is uninteresting. I only appreciate chicken if the skin is properly rosted. Pork has to be roasted/seared too. Roast beef I like, but only cold and with gribiche sauce. Hamburgers' meat would be pointless alone.

In fact, I no longer enjoy most of meat products. Most of them don't have the taste appeal of well cooked, well seasoned, clever vegetable food.

Lamb/mutton and charcuterie have no equivalent. Offal are generally great because of how they are prepared. Most of other meats are just lazy attempts at taste, with unnecessary cruelty.

[Anonymous No.13295254]

>animals have a right to life but plants don't

Hypocrite

[Anonymous No.13295258]

>>13295254
Some animals need to eat or they die.
Some don't.

[Anonymous No.13295260]

>>13295222
I already pay a lot of money for sustainable heritage breed humanitarian blah blah blah, as I said this has nothing to do with morals or whatever (not that there's anything wrong with morals, it's just that personally I don't have time for that)

The issue with meat is just that it isn't good.

[Anonymous No.13295264]

>OP spent Thanksgiving alone
nobody loves you and you have no friends lol

[Anonymous No.13295265]

>>13295258

weakness is just partial death. if you don't eat meat, you'll be weak.

[Anonymous No.13295273]

>>13295265
Based on what, your retarded /pol/ science?

[Anonymous No.13295274]

>>13295260
>>13295186
>>13295171
>>13295136
Since it seems many people are misunderstanding me I'd like to just say one more time for clarity: Meat does not taste good and people only eat it because of illogical adherence to "the old ways" in no small part pushed by massive multi billion dollar agribusiness interests that want you to think you're less of a man, or you're some sort of political radical, if you're not horking down a pound or more of something that simply DOES. NOT. TASTE. GOOD.

I have no bone to pick with people who abstain from meat for religious or moral reasons but I don't think anyone really needs any of that when you just consider that objectively eating meat is not done for pleasure, but simply out of a dumb habit held over from pre-agricultural days.

[Anonymous No.13295284]

>>13295260
I think, its more a matter of taste for you.
Ok, i have some moral inspired reasons, i wont deny that.
But when we broke it down to just the fact of taste...organic raised meat is realy way better than the cheap shit.
I can also like the taste of meat and doesnt need it every week. For me it is something special.

[Anonymous No.13295297]

>>13295274
Well, that is (your) Opinion.
If you dont like the taste,thats ok.
But how dare you to critizice others for their own kind of taste?
Thats the same view as "Like,what i like!" or "Believe in what i believe".
Not a very smart point of view.
Just my 2 cents.

[Anonymous No.13295299]

>>13295284
Yeah I was at that stage for the last 10 years, 95% of the meat I eat would come from various small independent farms, biodynamic or whatever. "Special occasions". Well at some point you realize "special occasions" are supposed to be for enjoying and you know what I don't enjoy? Good guess! The answer is meat.

It really annoys me because I went through a lot of effort to find a tenderloin (not to be confused with loin) of biodynamic, berkshire pig, I finally "scored" and I've got it in the freezer right now. And I realize now that I'm not going to enjoy it, because the whole thing was just a lie. I guess I'll force myself to eat it before it gets gross in there, but the effort was pointless.

[Anonymous No.13295304]

>>13295297
If you want to keep believing that you enjoy something that objectively isn't good, then you're free to do so. I don't look down on mormons or moonies or falun gong or wahhabis. I do think they're confused but I don't expect everyone to be right about everything all the time. And so it is with meat.

[Anonymous No.13295317]

>>13295297
>But how dare you to critizice others for their own kind of taste?
Not that anybody here is doing that, right?

[Anonymous No.13295329]

>>13295304
I dont "believe" it is good.
I just like it. Realy.
A good roasted Beef-Steak, medium-rare. Sauted in a Pan with Thyme,Rosemary,Garlic and Butter.
Sprinkled with Salt AFTER the roasting and a few flakes of freshly grinded Pepper.
I call that perfect. If you dont like it,thats totaly ok. I´m not in the position to judge you for your likes and dislikes.
Dont do that to me,either.

[Anonymous No.13295331]

>>13295274
I am less of a man because I'm a woman (female). Also, I eat meat and my political beliefs are centre left. How did big agribusiness trick me into eating meat if I'm neither obsessed with manliness nor am I a political radical?

[Anonymous No.13295335]

>>13295331
>I'm a woman (female)
A likely story

[Anonymous No.13295339]

>>13295136
Toxic masculinity means that a bunch of basement dwelling neckbeards with tiny penises have been taught through capitalist and conservative brainwashing that eating meat makes you more many and Alex Jones and his incel followers think eating healthy makes you a soy boy.

It's just brain washing op. You do you. Fuck the haters. When women are getting with you and churning out babies because of your working cardiovascular system and ripped abs you'll be slowly out producing the neck beards and 5 or 6 generations from now toxic masculinity will be bread out of the species.

[Anonymous No.13295340]

>>13295331
No one cares that you have tits, dumb roastie. You aren’t special.

[Anonymous No.13295344]

>>13295340
Way to ignore her argument. How does it feel to be even less intelligent than a dumb roastie? She might have a vagina, but you're a right cunt, m8

[Anonymous No.13295348]

>>13295344
t. white knight

[Anonymous No.13295351]

>>13295348
He quite ridiculed you, though

[Anonymous No.13295355]

>>13295339
But vegetarians and vegans don't have kids.

[Anonymous No.13295358]

>>13295339
>Eating meat has been seen as a positive thing by all cultures throughout history except when to abstain from physical pleasure and things that sustain the body for religious purposes.
>IT'S MARKETING AND CAPITALISM AND ALEX JONES THAT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO EAT MEAT.

[Anonymous No.13295364]

>>13295335
I'd suck her dick

[Anonymous No.13295367]

>>13295355
Isn't it interesting that meatcucks need to constantly bring up veganism? It's almost like there is actually no rational argument for eating meat so they need to resort to a straw man.

[Anonymous No.13295372]

>>13295358
But that simply isn't true unless you consider "all cultures" to be north central europe from exactly 1300 to 1700 C.E.

[Anonymous No.13295375]

>>13295340
Part of her argument is she's a female you dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.13295378]

>>13295367
Maybe that would stop happening if vegans arent such angry assholes anymore who want to change everyones behavior into their own and are not capable of respecting every human with another way to life?

[Anonymous No.13295384]

>>13295367
There's definitely no rational argument for avoiding meat while still consuming dairy and eggs. Non-meat animal foods are just as unhealthy as meat, and create equivalent environmental damage and animal suffering.

Meat eaters and vegans are both consistent in their beliefs and practices, lacto-ovo vegetarians are full retard.

[Anonymous No.13295386]

>>13295378
Considering you keep angrily bringing up vegans out of nowhere, it seems to me maybe you're the one who's a pushy asshole trying to change other people's behavior into your own?

[Anonymous No.13295388]

>>13295136
Vegetarianism> non-veg>>>>>>>veganism.
Atleast vegetarians aren't scared of butter, cheese (vegetation rennet) and leather.

[Anonymous No.13295389]

>>13295136
>Anyone just gradually find meat less and less appealing?
Nah. I'm in my mid-thirties and meat is more important than ever for me. Probably doesn't help that I'm hungry skelly mode though. If you're fat you can obviously get by for a very long time without it. For me, if I even just go a day or two without eating any meat it feels like I'm dying. When I was younger I could get by eating instant noodles or easy mac or something like that and not have a problem, but now my body is a lot quicker to start fucking up if I'm not getting actual nutritional substance in my stomach.

[Anonymous No.13295393]

>>13295384
Meat doesn't taste good. Eggs and cheese taste amazing. Horseshoe theory is dumb.

[Anonymous No.13295398]

>>13295393
Meat, eggs, and cheese taste amazing. You are dumb.

[Anonymous No.13295400]

>>13295339
>When women are getting with you and churning out babies because of your working cardiovascular system
Why would you be trying to have kids at an age where cardiovascular disease is even a serious possibility? Are you planning on having kids in your 60s?

[Anonymous No.13295401]

>>13295389
There is a difference between eating something because you have no choice, and eating something because you like it.

I think you'll find if you watch your macros that "I'm dying" feeling isn't really a thing. Trouble is if you watch your macros it turns out to actually be a pain in the ass to hit your protein requirements if you just "wing it", you really need to supplement a lot of the time.

[Anonymous No.13295404]

>>13295378
They aren't. Your dissonance towards the subject speaks volumes tho.

The answer to the vegan push was more sustainable more humane methods of farming, you see just as much as there is activism on the vegan side there is also for people who still want to enjoy meat. The biggest issue is that people were eating far too much meat to the point it got us into a cluster fuck of industrialized farming of animals.

I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but I only eat meat maybe twice a week, and I make it count, I ignored the vegan crowed and focused on the other side, sure I spend a little more on my meat products by going to a butcher, but I also take trips out to farms and get it really cheap, and I know where it's coming from.

[Anonymous No.13295406]

>>13295400
I know a guy in his 30s who gets winded just from talking on the phone. Needless to say he's a committed carnist with "whisky and bacon" themed desk decorations

[Anonymous No.13295412]

>>13295404
Dude, im this>>13295222 Guy.

[Anonymous No.13295464]

>>13295372
No, it is true, I explicitly said so because I include East Asian, African, North American etc throughout history. All of them prized meat.

[Anonymous No.13295484]

>>13295136
Lack of interest in things you used to enjoy is a symptom of depression.
Have you had less energy lately? Do you have difficulty sleeping or waking up? You might benefit from talking to your doctor about this.

[Anonymous No.13295510]

>>13295484
Yeah, actually now that I think about it, I've been unable to go to the gym for 2 months because I severely sprained my ankle running on a dirt trail in September, I've got no exercise lately, I cancelled my thanksgiving visit to family to work on a work project that's been backlogged for some time, and I'm just getting over the flu so I've barely even been outside for the last couple of weeks. The symptoms all make sense, it just doesn't feel like I'm "sad" or anything. It all feels totally normal except that things I'm supposed to "enjoy" actually seem pointless and almost ridiculous. Even looking at porn I'm supposed to enjoy, I try to jerk off and it's like, what is this shit, who does this, who is this woman and why is she doing that. I'm not even sure when the last time I jerked off was, probably a week. I actually tried to make a special effort to jerk off yesterday and got distracted. Hours later I was like "wasn't I supposed to jerk off" and then shrugged and continued with shitposting.

Weird.

[Anonymous No.13295524]

>>13295274
Meat tastes great, but I not longer find it appealing to have a large steak or other large portions of meat in one meal.

[Anonymous No.13295528]

>>13295510
Well, that doesnt sound good.
As >>13295484 mentioned, maybe you should realy see a Doc.
It must not be depression, it can also be a lack of something your 'Imunesystem just needs.

[Anonymous No.13295582]

>>13295510
Lack of exercise can exacerbate depression symptoms. It's entirely possible that you've always had clinical depression and you were just managing it well until recently.
The thing about lack of sexual pleasure is especially worrying. That's the one symptom everyone with depression mentions.
I should say, I'm using "depression" as a blanket term for any of dozens of illnesses, some mental and some physical. You'd need a proper check up and blood work to accurately diagnose yourself.

[Anonymous No.13295598]

>>13295136
>Anyone just gradually find meat less and less appealing?

This happened to me a few years ago, turns out i was suffering from low testosterone. Luckily i did not have to take any drugs , just change some lifestyle stuff and now while my t is still not normal, its high enough that i love meat again and enjoy sex again.
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.13295766]

I guarantee this tard was raised among brainlets that eat steak below medium done

[Anonymous No.13296437]

>>13295406
>I know a guy
just the one? damn, billions of meat eaters BTFO

[Anonymous No.13296782]

>>13295136
Yeah this is why i cut the meat out 1.5 years ago, just generally not appealing, along with the ethical concerns of meat production. Also, too much meat and shit can increase risk for heart disease and blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.13296806]

>>13295136
>tumblr tier reaction image

[Anonymous No.13296857]

>>13295136
>Anyone just gradually find meat less and less appealing?
Nope

[Anonymous No.13297122]

>>13295598
>change some lifestyle stuff
help
I can't eat meat anymore and I have also become very very skinny. my voice is also higher pitched.
what did you do

[Anonymous No.13298317]

>>13296437
almost every single human thru history BTFO

[Anonymous No.13299667]

>>13295274
>simply DOES. NOT. TASTE. GOOD.

unseasoned meat isnt good but neither are vegetables. Most meats and veggies are good with alittle salt. Raw tuna and Salmon are tasty as is. If meat is gross to you, stop eating it. You dont have to try to convince others they dont like meat because you dislike it now

[Anonymous No.13299677]

>>13295136
Nope. Meat is still tasty. Maybe next week though.

[Anonymous No.13300184]

>>13295136
>H-hey, so we know you call us vegans out as fucking loonies
>But how about if you compromise with our ridiculously retarded demands and just do HALF of the retarded shit we tell you to do that you have no obligation to?
>It's the rational middle ground!

[Anonymous No.13300212]

>>13295136
You can get enough protein eating vegetarian just try to get some kefir and an infrequent serving of wild hunted meat every now and then to facilitate healthy digestion.

[Anonymous No.13300851]

>>13295344
Straight out of reddit, yikes